Re: CA State Fair #2 : )

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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OK, enough of the bad stuff! Our Anvil's Tommes & Fair Acres Knute were great 
ambassadors for their breed. The CA State Fair has a a section called the 
"Cavalcade of Horses" which highlights various breeds. Among the breeds 
represented were Appaloosas, Missouri Fox Trotters, Andalusians, and the 
always-show-stopping Friesians. 

This was Knute's first time at an event of any kind, and he did great. He 
allowed people to pet him all day. Sometimes he got a bit tired, and moved to 
the other side of the stall. But this lasted only a few minutes, and he was 
back front and center when a child wanted to touch his soft nose. On Saturday 
morning before the start of the performances, I noticed some people free 
lunging their horses in the arena. I hurried to do this. I wanted to give 
Knute a chance to stretch his legs and show people how a Fjord can move. Boy, 
can he MOVE! He obliged the crowd by cantering around in fine style. I 
noticed several people filming him with video cameras and snapping pictures. 
A few minutes later a staff member told me I shouldn't be in the arena, so I 
put Knute back in his stall. Lots of people came to visit after that, 
commenting that they didn't know this type of horse could move so nicely, and 
swiftly!

Tommes' head was never in the stall. All day, he had at least 3 people 
hanging off of it. Men, women, kids, handicapped, down syndrome, wheels 
chairs ... he loves them all. It's hard to describe the noble, wise look on 
his face when he does this. After a while, I looked around and noticed we 
were the only ones with a CROWD around the stalls. We were also the only ones 
who left the top part of the French door open, welcoming admirers. 

Dad got pretty good at answering the usual questions: is that mane natural, 
are they just for driving, how old are they? He said he felt much closer to 
the horses after spending a day with them : ) I think we turned lots of 
people on to the breed. It's too bad we didn't have anything to hand out, but 
we did give my web address to several people who requested it. 

Time for the Horse & Carriage demo! Tommes & I were proudly showing in my 
newly restored antique oak sulky. Our restoration guy had really burned the 
midnight lamp to have it ready for this event, and it shone beautifully. 
Tommes was quite nervous as we waited for our turn after the Minis, 
Clydesdales & Morgans. As the announcer began to read my script, I took a 
deep breath and centered myself as we entered the ring. "And now folks, for 
something completely different, the Norwegian Fjord Horse..." Something 
happened to Tommes as it does to me when I'm performing. He becomes a 
showman, and performs better than he ever does in practice. Part of my script 
demonstrates the three trots, and I have to admit the pleasure trot was as 
close to perfect as I've ever felt! The announcer was great. He read my whole 
script and added a few more comments. He obviously is well experienced, and 
knows horses very well. 

After the demo Tommes returned to his stall and his admirers. I got lots of 
complements from the audience, which made my day. The announcer even told me 
I'd written a great script! We left the fair grounds soon after, due to major 
problems with management. However we were not discouraged. Dad gained some 
more confidence with horses, and I really enjoyed performing for the public. 
We won't return to this particular venue, but we can hardly wait to 
participate in other events.

Happy Fjording!

Brigid M Wasson 
San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
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http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Fjords
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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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Hi All-

I decided to post two emails to the list about my experience this weekend. #1 
: ( will detail all the snafus we endured in an attempt to be "Fjord 
Ambassadors." #2 will tell of our accomplishments and successes. Read on...

My "learning-to-be-horsey" Dad & I put forth a great effort to participate in 
the CA State Fair. He turned down two days of overtime, and I canceled many 
pet sitting visits. I stayed up late Thursday packing my stuff and writing a 
script that I thought would be suitable for my demo. After work on Friday, we 
loaded up 2 horses, newly refinished cart, harness, grooming equipment, etc., 
and hit the road. Arriving in Sacramento at midnight, we began negotiating 
the huge maze of the Cal Expo Fairgrounds. We were supposed to receive passes 
in the mail, but they never arrived (still haven't) so we had to talk our way 
past the security guard at the gate. Finally locating the barn in the 
"Cavalcade of Horses" area, we unload Tommes & Knute and put them up in their 
stalls. The stalls were well located in a shady, high-foot-traffic area right 
in front of the arena, and they were clearly marked with Fjord signs & 
pictures. However, there was no promotional material as I had hoped. I would 
have liked to hand out NFHR flyers, invites to Skandifest, or some such so 
fair goers could look further into the breed after returning home. 

I had my first hint of a problem when I looked at the Cavalcade schedule, and 
noticed Fjords were not on the agenda for the weekend. Saturday was 
Appaloosas and Sunday was Spanish Breeds. The All-Breed demo wasn't listed 
until Tuesday! I had been specifically told to write a script and prepare for 
a Fjord breed demo. Yikes. Too tired to worry, Dad & I retired to our motel 
room. In the morning I called the Cavalcade manager, Nancy. Imagine my shock 
when I discovered she had no idea who I was, wasn't expecting me, and had no 
use for my demo. When I told her I would be driving, and I'd come a long way 
with a lot of equipment, she agreed to "squeeze me in" to the Horse & 
Carriage program which runs each evening at 5:30. OK, at least we're in.  I 
told Nancy I had no passes, and she said she would send some to the front 
gate. So far so good. We drove to the fair grounds and picked up our passes, 
then proceeded to the Cavalcade area. We parked in numbered spaces outside 
the barn, and I put a note on the windshield with my cell phone number in 
case I was in someone's spot. 

I proceeded to the office and turned in my script, neatly typed with a 
pronunciation guide (FEE-ORDS). The staff member looked at it and said, "Oh, 
well we may not need this, it may be too long, we'll see" and she tossed it 
on the desk. I then asked her where I should groom & tack up my horses. She 
gave me a blank look. I repeated the question, to which she replied, "Well, 
there really is no specific place, just wherever you can find room." Great. 
Wherever I can find room, in a very crowded area teeming with over 100 
horses, their people, tractors... At this moment my cell phone rang. I needed 
to move my truck. I asked the staff member where I should put my cart, and 
she said she didn't know (we had no tack stall or any other space to put 
anything). She took my number and said Nancy would call me. I ran outside to 
move my truck.

Wondering where I should move to, I checked my pass and saw that I had 2 
tickets for "Lot P." OK, I'll park there and drive back later to unload my 
equipment. No sooner do I get out of the Cavalcade area, Nancy calls and says 
she has a place for my cart. I turn around, and the guards won't allow me to 
reenter. "No reentry after 10AM." I explain that I have a large heavy cart 
that needs to be unloaded, and I need to park near the barn. The guard said 
that's too bad, I can park in Lot P and carry my things in. Just one 
problem... Lot P is about a mile (no kidding) from the barn. When I 
protested, I heard something that would become the pat answer to my every 
complaint, "That's what everyone else does." Sure. Called Nancy back, she 
said no problem, she'll send another pass to the gate. Wait for the pass, 
reenter, park again. This is getting tedious. The parking pass says "Display 
in window, park in Cavalcade area." I asked the guard if I should park in any 
numbered spot, and he replied anywhere near the barn was fine. Well, it 
wasn't. After unloading my cart (the storage area, by the way, was a grassy 
spot with members of the public milling all around, and children playing 
around the carts) I returned to my truck to find a parking ticket. I 
presented the ticket, and the pass, to a staff member. "Oh, she said, "you 
weren't supposed to park there." When I replied that that was the only legal 
parking area, and all other areas were clearly marked with "Tow Away" signs, 
she said, "Nancy will tell you were to park, maybe by that fence there." and 
then the mantra, "That's what everyon

Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 8/21/01 7:26:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< How very odd.  I never received the Ca State Fair posts.  Except for 
Carol's 
 response to them.  Anybody else? >>

Hm, strange. OK, I'm reposting them now.

Brigid





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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Hi All-

I decided to post two emails to the list about my experience this weekend. #1 
: ( will detail all the snafus we endured in an attempt to be "Fjord 
Ambassadors." #2 will tell of our accomplishments and successes. Read on...

My "learning-to-be-horsey" Dad & I put forth a great effort to participate in 
the CA State Fair. He turned down two days of overtime, and I canceled many 
pet sitting visits. I stayed up late Thursday packing my stuff and writing a 
script that I thought would be suitable for my demo. After work on Friday, we 
loaded up 2 horses, newly refinished cart, harness, grooming equipment, etc., 
and hit the road. Arriving in Sacramento at midnight, we began negotiating 
the huge maze of the Cal Expo Fairgrounds. We were supposed to receive passes 
in the mail, but they never arrived (still haven't) so we had to talk our way 
past the security guard at the gate. Finally locating the barn in the 
"Cavalcade of Horses" area, we unload Tommes & Knute and put them up in their 
stalls. The stalls were well located in a shady, high-foot-traffic area right 
in front of the arena, and they were clearly marked with Fjord signs & 
pictures. However, there was no promotional material as I had hoped. I would 
have liked to hand out NFHR flyers, invites to Skandifest, or some such so 
fair goers could look further into the breed after returning home. 

I had my first hint of a problem when I looked at the Cavalcade schedule, and 
noticed Fjords were not on the agenda for the weekend. Saturday was 
Appaloosas and Sunday was Spanish Breeds. The All-Breed demo wasn't listed 
until Tuesday! I had been specifically told to write a script and prepare for 
a Fjord breed demo. Yikes. Too tired to worry, Dad & I retired to our motel 
room. In the morning I called the Cavalcade manager, Nancy. Imagine my shock 
when I discovered she had no idea who I was, wasn't expecting me, and had no 
use for my demo. When I told her I would be driving, and I'd come a long way 
with a lot of equipment, she agreed to "squeeze me in" to the Horse & 
Carriage program which runs each evening at 5:30. OK, at least we're in.  I 
told Nancy I had no passes, and she said she would send some to the front 
gate. So far so good. We drove to the fair grounds and picked up our passes, 
then proceeded to the Cavalcade area. We parked in numbered spaces outside 
the barn, and I put a note on the windshield with my cell phone number in 
case I was in someone's spot. 

I proceeded to the office and turned in my script, neatly typed with a 
pronunciation guide (FEE-ORDS). The staff member looked at it and said, "Oh, 
well we may not need this, it may be too long, we'll see" and she tossed it 
on the desk. I then asked her where I should groom & tack up my horses. She 
gave me a blank look. I repeated the question, to which she replied, "Well, 
there really is no specific place, just wherever you can find room." Great. 
Wherever I can find room, in a very crowded area teeming with over 100 
horses, their people, tractors... At this moment my cell phone rang. I needed 
to move my truck. I asked the staff member where I should put my cart, and 
she said she didn't know (we had no tack stall or any other space to put 
anything). She took my number and said Nancy would call me. I ran outside to 
move my truck.

Wondering where I should move to, I checked my pass and saw that I had 2 
tickets for "Lot P." OK, I'll park there and drive back later to unload my 
equipment. No sooner do I get out of the Cavalcade area, Nancy calls and says 
she has a place for my cart. I turn around, and the guards won't allow me to 
reenter. "No reentry after 10AM." I explain that I have a large heavy cart 
that needs to be unloaded, and I need to park near the barn. The guard said 
that's too bad, I can park in Lot P and carry my things in. Just one 
problem... Lot P is about a mile (no kidding) from the barn. When I 
protested, I heard something that would become the pat answer to my every 
complaint, "That's what everyone else does." Sure. Called Nancy back, she 
said no problem, she'll send another pass to the gate. Wait for the pass, 
reenter, park again. This is getting tedious. The parking pass says "Display 
in window, park in Cavalcade area." I asked the guard if I should park in any 
numbered spot, and he replied anywhere near the barn was fine. Well, it 
wasn't. After unloading my cart (the storage area, by the way, was a grassy 
spot with members of the public milling all around, and children playing 
around the carts) I returned to my truck to find a parking ticket. I 
presented the ticket, and the pass, to a staff member. "Oh, she said, "you 
weren't supposed to park there." When I replied that that was the only legal 
parking area, and all other areas were clearly marked with "Tow Away" signs, 
she said, "Nancy will tell you were to park, maybe by that fence there." and 
then the mantra, "That's what everyon

Re: Which Bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Epona1971
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Thanks to all who posted with bit advice. I am really interested in the 
Mylers. They seem innovative and high quality. However, I would like to have 
one "fitted" as they are so specialized. I checked their web site, but 
couldn't find a clinic or some such in my area. Anyone else have a Myler bit 
fitted, or been to a clinic?

Brigid





s-l-o-w posts

2001-08-21 Thread Karen McCarthy

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I do not have AOL.
I experience the situation you are describing about 20% of the time, that 
is, I read the reply long before I see the original post,(if ever).



Karen McCarthy
Great Basin Fjords
Carson City, NV



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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: CA State Fair #1  : (
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:04:26 EDT

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In a message dated 8/21/01 3:32:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I didn't get them either and I have AOL.
>

Yes.  But what is weird is I'm getting them from everybody else who has AOL,
just not the original poster on this thread.  How very odd.  Wonder if she's
getting ours?

Pamela



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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/21/01 3:32:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


> I didn't get them either and I have AOL.
>  

Yes.  But what is weird is I'm getting them from everybody else who has AOL, 
just not the original poster on this thread.  How very odd.  Wonder if she's 
getting ours?

Pamela





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread SorgerJ
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In a message dated 8/21/01 9:18:20 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  notice you are both on AOL.  I wonder if there is a connection?  Anybody
 else on AOL that didn't recieve them?  I got them OK, but use a local isp,
 mosquitonet.com.
  >>
I didn't get them either and I have AOL.
 Sue





Re: Grazing Muzzle

2001-08-21 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a sturdy metal muzzle that I have used on all of my horses.  This
allows them to be with the other horses and to move about.  Saves stall
mucking also. Be sure to get a well made one and have it padded where it
rubs the face. I put it on the horse for a few seconds, then next day for
longer etc until the horse accepts it.  I find it necessary to bend the
frame of the muzzle to make it fit around different heads.  The halter on
mine is pretty unforgiving so I want to also be sure there is nothing for it
to catch on.  The horses show some frustration at first but then seem to
quickly adapt as they do to other things.





Jean Walters Gayle
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ]
http://users.techline.com/jgayle
Send $20
PO Box 104
Montesano, Wa 98563





Sissel and me

2001-08-21 Thread coyote
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My Fjord mare Sissel and I went to a horsemanship clinic at the Natural
Gait located near Harper's Ferry, Iowa. It is a beautiful place in
rugged northeast Iowa that is a perfect setting for playing with horses. 

Features: Cabins, sleeping rooms, and camping spaces for people, and
covered open-air stalls for the horses. Miles and miles of hilly trails,
both on the property (200-300 acres) and on the adjoining Yellow River
State Forest. Round pen, indoor arena, outdoor arena. Horse "playground"
with wooden bridge, big flat rocks to stand on, other obstacles.

Saturday: We started the clinic in the indoor arena, which was good
since there were scattered rain showers all day. 

Morning: Groundwork with a rope halter and long lead rope. We learned to
yield hind- and fore-quarters. Backing. Softening the neck. Giving to
pressure. Sissel did not want to correctly yield her hindquarters toward
the right. The instructor worked with her for 15 minutes while standing
on her left to get her to stop leaning on him and to correctly swing her
hindquarters away while pivoting on her forefeet. It was very difficult
for her to understand what he wanted. Her hindquarter yield was perfect,
however, when he stood on her right and asked for the same yield away
from him.

He explained that horses (like humans) are two sided -- they cannot
transfer a body skill from one side to the other without practice.
That's like expecting a human to write or throw a ball just as well with
one hand as with the other. That usually is not the case with most
people -- we are one sided in many of the skills we do. Horses are no
different. We have to teach both sides of their bodies, and not be
impatient as they learn.

Afternoon: Riding at the walk and trot using a single rein and rope
halter. Yielding, backing, giving to pressure. Working on rider balance,
riding with a loose rein (western riding style). Transitions between
gaits. Stopping with one rein.

One rein riding: How does one turn both ways with just one rein? I
wondered too! You must flip the rein out and over the horse's head as
necessary. That was a tough skill for me to master at first, but it was
fun once I got the hang of it.

Adventures: I was riding with my new Tucker trail saddle with an
extra-wide tree. I really liked it, although as with anything new, it's
taking me a little time to get used to it. I adjusted my stirrup length
several times to find the right length for me to keep a correct seat and
to post comfortably. 

What I forgot to check was the girth! The new latigo tie straps
stretched enough so the saddle slipped under me when I momentarily lost
my balance on a turn at the trot. Sissel thankfully slowed to a stop as
I struggled to keep from falling by hanging on her neck, laughing the
whole time after I realized I wasn't going to fall. I settled the saddle
back in place, adjusted the girth, and off we went again.

Sunday: We started in the indoor arena with rope halters, asking our
horses to negotiate obstacles. Sissel had no problem stepping over the
logs and on the big crackly tarp. She did have a lot of trouble doing a
"figure 8" around two buckets -- and, to be honest, part of the problem
was her inexperienced human's fault. I kept getting confused at first
about what I should ask her to do. 

After a bit I figured it out: The idea of this exercise was for the
human to stand a little off to the side of the center of the "8" and ask
the horse to do the figure in front of the human -- the horse does not
circle behind the human at any time. It builds control and yielding
skills. 

I eventually realized that she was acting stiff on the left side again,
so we went back to the basics of yielding hindquarters to the right.
After she warmed up, she did absolutely wonderfully -- doing a smooth,
controlled figure 8 right in front of me with the lightest of direction.

Afternoon: Seven of us went on a 4-hour trail ride, walking and trotting
up and down hills, along winding flat trails, and over two river
crossings. The scenery was beautiful and the day was perfect. Sissel got
to lead the group, be in the middle, and bring up the rear at various
times. She didn't like to get left behind, but did very well in the
lead. At the river crossings, I discovered that the problem was not to
get her to cross, but to keep her from playing and pawing in the water.
I was afraid she was going to lie down and roll, so I had to work to
urge her across.

The only time Sissel and I really had problems was going up one very
steep, very long hillside. She got winded and periodically needed to
stop and catch her breath. Considering that Sissel and I are both a bit
overweight and underexercised, that was to be expected. We just took our
time.

At the horse playground, the others encouraged me to ask Sissel to step
up on a large, flat rock perhaps 16 inches above the ground. I asked her
to face the rock and gently nudged her with my heels to ask her forwa

Grazing Muzzle

2001-08-21 Thread lazyao
This message is from: "lazyao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a fjord mare, 5 years old that I pasture with 7 quarter horses.  The
schedule they are on is perfect for the quarter horses, but Jayne is
beginning to resemble a parade float.  I saw an ad for a grazing muzzle
which limits the amount of grass the horse gets while grazing, she'd get
some but not as much as she could bite off and chew.

Does anyone have any experience with one of these?

AO





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I notice you are both on AOL.  I wonder if there is a connection?  Anybody
else on AOL that didn't recieve them?  I got them OK, but use a local isp,
mosquitonet.com.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly sunnyl and 70 degrees forcast today.

At 11:01 AM 8/21/2001 EDT, you wrote:
>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I never did either.
>
>Suzan
>
>
>

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread SSlotness
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I never did either.

Suzan





Re: which bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Brigid,

Since Tommes goes so well in your snaffle mouth Liverpool, you might
think of trying one of the Myler bits with a western shank.  The Myler
bits are jointed with a swivel action, not a "broken" or nutcracker
action like a snaffle, so the theory is you get the direct rein
communication that you obtain by having a jointed mouthpiece.  One
problem, however, is that you will probably have to custom order the
mouthpiece size you'll need.  Most Fjords I've worked with need a 6"
mouthpiece.  Most "off the rack" bits come no larger than 5 1/2 inches.

There are other brands that have copied the swivel action of the Myler
bits.  I don't know their names, but they're out there.  Just be careful
of the quality.

Beth

--
Beth Beymer & Sandy North
Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
http://www.starfirefarm.com





Re: CA State Fair #1 : (

2001-08-21 Thread Northhorse
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How very odd.  I never received the Ca State Fair posts.  Except for Carol's 
response to them.  Anybody else?

Pamela





Re: Which Bit?

2001-08-21 Thread Hope Carlson
This message is from: "Hope Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Brigid and all,

For a western curb bit I really like the Linda Tellington Jones bit made by
Sprenger.  Beautifully balanced, made to be ridden with two reins.  The bit
part is fixed, has a port with a copper roller.
Our Liverpool for driving is fixed also, so maybe it is an easy transition
for our ponies.  I ride them alot in a plain full cheek snaffle also, or an
eggbut for the kids riding the ponies in pasture.  They will do everything I
want them to in a snaffle, but when times get tough on the trail it can get
hard for me to turn those stout little necks around as I lack upper body
strength due to nerve damage. A small amount of curb leverage goes a long
way.  The shanks swivel too, which I like esp. for ponies that are not
strictly neck broke.

Hope
N. IL





Driving lessons?

2001-08-21 Thread Anjer Farms
This message is from: Anjer Farms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello,

Does anyone know someone in the Saratoga,New York area that teaches driving?

Thanks,
Andrea