Fjords in North America
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings from Brian Jensen; kindve long It is refreshing to read some thoughtful and forward thinking comments from list contributors. Actually Mark Ursula does her best thinking in the barn mucking out stalls !!!. To Marsha L. my apology for the typo- error. I offer my prospectives as my own point of view based on our time in the Fjord business which started in 1983 . I believe there has been tremendous growth and education throughout the Fjord community and the NFHR If one goes back about 15 years in N.A. to look at the Fjord Breed --its membership --NFHR---Stability & Continuity --it has never been better than today. Presently I see five cornerstones in N. A. for Fjord Advocacy, and Stewardship of the Breed. 1-The NFHR--Directors, Committees, and Record Functions maintained by Mike May--Exec Director. 2-The Evaluation Program, and its Committee members The Record Book and on line Evaluation results. 3-The Fjord Herald---Publisher--Sally Webber. 4-The Committed Fjord Owners & Breeders of N. A. 5- NFHR membership in FHI When Ursula and I started in Fjords there were no Evaluations---no Clinicians---no Leaders in the disciplines of Riding/Driving/Draft. Today we have Evaluations--Trained capable Clinicians-Mentoring leaders in all the Disciplines. As I travel around N.A. to Fjord Clinics and Evaluations I see a huge change in the quality of the Fjord presented for inspection. I also see a standard of understanding and communication across the country in all groups and their memberships. It is very gratifying to do a spring PNWFPG Pre-Evaluation Clinic in Spokane, and take the same material to present to a Pre-Evaluation Clinic in Virginiaand have everyone on the same page!! Last fall at the Ohio Evaluation I asked Wayne Hipsley-Senior Evaluator-- if he knew of any other breed in N.A. who had wrote and are conducting their own Evaluation Program. He was not aware of any other breed doing this in N. A. We have all came a long way in 15 years and are to be commended for it!!! It has not been easy or smooth. There has actually over the years been tremendous differences of opinions and downright standoffs!!! I have kept a 15 year old letter from a notable Fjord owner and breeder---which today would be considered hate mail. This letter comments on our wanting to drive carriage style, carry a whip, and wanting to standardize Fjords with something called Evaluations. The wording was much more colourful and prolific than my statement---but that is censored!!! Thankfully the hate mail has stopped. From these circumstances mentioned I believe we have moved forward. That being said, and not wanting to rest on platitudes we have now been challenging every Fjord owner at every clinic we give to think outside of the box, and take another look at their Fjords and their abilities. It is my belief that right now the biggest single point holding back the Fjords true place in Equine North America is some of the owners and breeders who simply do not recognize really what these animals are capable of doing. All owners and breeders in N.A. have freedom of choice in what to do or what not to do with their Fjords. I cannot berate others for not doing what we do. I can only suggest---show---educate---mentor--and train others to Drive successfully and safely. Considering the cross-section of new Fjord owners, and their abilities---I believe we have came a fair distance. For me the 20/20 hindsight gives a positive prospective of where we are at--where we came from---and where we are going. There will always be work to do for growth to occur. We are really just beginning Sincerely Brian Jensen & Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
Re: T-shirts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/11/2004 10:41:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ditto. It must be over a year by now. I would love to have the > T-shirt, so have not asked for funds back, but would love to have the > $50 back if I am not going to get the T-shirts. > I too ordered a T-shirt and would like to have it if it is going to come about. Hopefully somebody knows what is going on??? Rondi Tyler.
Re: T-shirts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: " Linda Syverson-Kerr" @[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello. I agree with the rest as well. I paid for 2 t-shirts, an XL and XXL please return my money. Linda Syverson Kerr W 7419 Council Bay RD Holmen, WI 54636 Thank you
horses getting to know each other
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a very scary thing for me. I take weeks to put horses together and sometimes that doesn't even work. Sometimes it does. Seems like at other barns it isn't that big of a problem, but it can be a real problem. Once a mare (Morgan) I owned had been in with my Morgan gelding for 7 months. She became more and more dominate until one day my daughter came home to find her gelding 3 legged lame. He had been kicked in the hock and the hock capsule was broken open. With much care and $$ he recovered and is still rideable now 7 years later BUT I really don't want to go through anything like this again. Those 2 were separated for the next 3 years I had them, by themselves in separate pastures. Not optimal, but all they were going to get. So take as long as you can for them to visit over the fence and maybe that's the way they have to stay. Valerie Columbia, CT
Re: T-shirts
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike May, Registrar NFHR wrote: This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree Steve. Please refund my money also. Mike This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, It has now been long enought to wait for t-shirts, there have not even been any updates for months, please return my money, I paid for 2. Sue I have to agree with the rest on the list who have brought up the subject. I was thinking about it last week. How about an update, Steve, or money back for 1 shirt. I would really like the shirt, but if you just can't get a place to do them the right way for the price, then it was a great try and it just won't happen. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Stillmeadows Farm & Narnia
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was trying to surf to the Stillmeadows Farm and the Fjord Horses of Narnia websites today. Stillmeadows: http://www.fjordhorses.com/ Narnia: http://www.saltspring.com/ Neither of these websites seems to be working. Does anyone know if they've changed their websites or Thanks DeeAnna
Re: poster
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RuthieI think I've had mine a couple weeks. Linda
Re: pasture mates and lead horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers; Reading Roberta's post reminded me of my three horses that were temporarily boarded at a friends a while back. Sven, Hasse and appaloosa, Miss Dottie were kept in a pasture with a run-in shed. One day the owner of the property came out and said he had never seen three horses get along so well. They all eat at the same hay pile, noone ever kicks, bites or even "snarles". There is no leader of the group..they all just get along. Well, I knew better...the "leader" is Sven..but, what a gentle leader he is. Once in a blue moon I will see him put his ears back for a few seconds but that is it. If Hasse wants to play and Sven wants nothing to do with him Sven will turn his LARGE butt toward Hasse and back up.too funny. Needless to saythese three are no worry. Lately I find all three napping in the sun - Sven and Hasse will let me sit on their backs and snuzzle with them :) Dreary day here today..wa! Linda in MN
Re: pasture mates and lead horse
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Lately I find all three napping in the sun - Sven and Hasse will let > me sit on their backs and snuzzle with them :) And that reminds me When we were in California, the Fjords were kept shod. We usually did Sleepy first (he wiggled less that way, than if left waiting to be last), and once he was done, he usually went outside into his corral and laid down for his mid-morning nap. The first time that I went out there and sat on him, my farrier's mouth gaped open and his eyes got big---he'd apparently never seen a horse that would stay down when a human approached, let alone allow someone to use him for a sofa! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
RE: T-shirts
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ditto. It must be over a year by now. I would love to have the T-shirt, so have not asked for funds back, but would love to have the $50 back if I am not going to get the T-shirts. Gail
Re: T-shirts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before I ask for my money to be returned,I will ask Steve to answer my question. Do you have any near date when the tee-shirts will be ready to send out.??? I do want them if its soon. Steve put the good word out there.PLEASE Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: pasture mate question
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Horses are herd animals, weather it be a goat, duck, dog or whatever. Their are a select few that don't want the company and do very well, and prefer to be solo. I guess my best guess would be to know your horses needs. I have just aquired a horse last fall who was solo and very unhappy, he would always escape, and was distructive. The folks that had him got tired of his antics ( read that didn't understand ), and shipped him off. He got here and happily took the bottom rung of the ladder, had no intrest in being leader or anything elce. He just wated to belong to a herd where his job was to be a horse and nothing elce. No lead roles for this guy, just one of the gang. Their is security in numbers. I must admit he is not what I would call brave ( he is Arabian ). The Fjords have built in him calmness and confidance. My well managed ( by a wise QH ) quiet pasture has helped him be a better horse. The need for pasture mates is an indivdual thing so you need to know your horse and pasture watch. You learn lots just pasture watching. Best of luck, Roberta MN
Re: Re :breeding vrs training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/10/2004 6:48:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You'd be amazed how many people claim a horse is saddle trained because someone sat on its back once, or cart trained because it was hitched up once and nothing went wrong. Yikes! This is exactly the kind of thing I think of whenever I see one of those ads advertising a 3 year old "broke to ride and drive"... Definitely scary. Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T-shirts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, It has now been long enought to wait for t-shirts, there have not even been any updates for months, please return my money, I paid for 2. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Opark NM
RE: pasture mate question
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Laurie, for what its worthWhen my Morgan died in the October, Tank was by himself for the first in his life (11 years). He could see and talk to other horses in the area but that was all. He, like most Fjords, was very stoic about it. I did think he was a little morose (not korose)! What I noticed was that he would never lie down. He seemed OK otherwise. When his friend, Nigel (the arab/fjord I had boarded at my other place), came for a two-night "sleepover," we have pictures of the both of them napping together nose to nose. Tank appeared to really sleeping for the first time in three months. He was very distressed when Nigel left. I convinced NIgel's owner to let me board him for the rest of the winter until Chiron came. It was so apparent that both horses were so much more content and relaxed to be together again. Your Oz, having not formed close or long-term friendships with your other horses, may have a different reaction. But I do believe horses are much happier and more relaxed with a companion. Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] (messages received on Saturday or Sunday can not be responded to until Monday) Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs
Re: T-shirts
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree Steve. Please refund my money also. Mike At 09:32 AM 5/11/2004, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, It has now been long enought to wait for t-shirts, there have not even been any updates for months, please return my money, I paid for 2. Sue Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Opark NM === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: poster
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Laurie...I have some of the postersI'll give you one:) > > Linda > We haven't received ours yet... has it been very long since they were sent out? Ruthie, nw mt
Re: poster
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie...I have some of the postersI'll give you one:) Linda
Re: poster
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie...I have some of the postersI'll give you one:) Linda
Re: Training fm Cart to Saddle???
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a 15 year old gelding that was used as a driving horse for his first 10 years. At age 11 he was put in training to ride.2 months..he did just fine. We don't ride him alot because we have other horses that are easier to ride. But, for a trail ride, when we need another mount, he is great. I used the same bit for riding as I do for driving. I would say..go for it!! :) Linda in MN
Re: pasturemate
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/11/04 6:56:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subject: Re: pasture mate question (kinda long) > > This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How about a goat as a buddy? > actually we have two goats, and he's been watching themand we have a bunch of other critters, barn cats, geese, chickens, ducks, so he won't be lacking for company. plus, with only one horse, i plan to spend every moment with him that i can :) thanks laurie with central minnesota
Re:poster
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/11/04 6:56:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think the poster of Vivian and her two fjords at cart is superb. For > those of you who did not get the poster, get it > are they still available? and from whom? thanks, i think it would look great in my office. laurie central minnesota
Training fm Cart to Saddle???
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, folks - I have a chance to visit and talk possible purchase of a pair of fjords this Sunday. They are in their mid teens - well broke for harness - ad says "driven single & double, in parades, wagon train, easy to shoe, trailer, etc". I'm thinking that it would not be too hard for a trainer to teach them trail saddle work, since they already know a "job" and what it is to "work" (versus a greenie, who doesn't understand yet what settling down to work is about.) What do you think? Is the transition training not that far off? I will be really straining my financial means (but do-able) to get these two. IE, sticking my neck out! ;-) The seller prefers to sell them as a pair - but it's the same cost as what I've seen just one going for just *one* with the same level of training & age. It's a four hour drive from me - I go see them on Sunday. Am anxious - have wanted a fjord of my own for YEARS but this *might* finally be "it"! Wish me luck! Happy trails, Sher Olson, Aurora CO http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html "Rocky Mountain Trails, Vol.1" 60 trails in of the urban, prairie, foothills and mountains in the central corridor of Colorado - Ft. Collins to Colorado Springs. For the one hour or all day rider. Plus Bed & Breakfasts for you & your horse. Binder format.
Re: Re :breeding vrs training
This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You make some excellent points. And for the others out there. If you have one of these "started but not finished" horses, put a few months on him or her with a trainer like Pat (or Pat!) and see just what it's like to ride a well trained horse - even if you ride casually. You'll enjoy your horse that much more. If you are trying to sell a horse - get it trained. You'll get more for him and you won't be doing the buyer (who many times is new to horses as well) a disservice. Mark Mariposa Farm Pat Holland wrote: This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because the Fjord has been touted as born broke - some people believe this - and don't take the time to really train them. There are an inordinate amount of appeared trained Fjord horses out there - because of their inherent stoic nature. ...It is true, if you have a well trained Fjord he sells fast - and often stays put. Pat Holland
