Re: Geldings and evaluations

2005-08-13 Thread Warren Stockwell
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YEAH!!! From the Markus fan club in Minnesota

Go Linda!!

Roberta
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 Hi;

 Just to let you know they did an evaluation in West Salem Wisconsin
 08/06-08/07 and Linda Syverson-Kerr had her gelding evaluated Spruce Hill
Markus and he
 received seven blues along with a silver medallion and a gold medallion
and
 this was done in this lone evaluation. I can't explain how proud I was
that day
 being she is my wife and Markus is like one of the family.



 Proud Husband





Re: Geldings and evaluations - Congrats!!!

2005-08-13 Thread JadeBear
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WOW!!!  Linda and Markus did amazing work at the evaluation!  I'll bet 
your whole clan is proud and Markus has probably earned carrots for life!  
Although, since you guys already loved him, I'm sure he had the carrot 
guarantee 
sewn up anyway!
YEA Geldings!!

Kay Van Natta
and Braveheart, another carrot recipient
and Clementine, who thinks he's overpaid 





Re: Geldings and evaluations

2005-08-12 Thread J20038
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Hi;

Just to let you know they did an evaluation in West Salem Wisconsin 
08/06-08/07 and Linda Syverson-Kerr had her gelding evaluated Spruce Hill 
Markus and he 
received seven blues along with a silver medallion and a gold medallion and 
this was done in this lone evaluation. I can't explain how proud I was that day 
being she is my wife and Markus is like one of the family.



Proud Husband





Geldings and evaluations

2005-08-12 Thread M Korose
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Yes
You can take geldings and be in an evaluation.  I would think that an owner 
would want to do this because:   1) they have fun showing the horse in various 
disciplines and he is good at it  2) they wish to stay involved and active in 
Fjord events  3) a good score for a gelding assists the record for a good 
sire/dam
I would suggest that the owner attend an evaluation or two and see just what is 
involved (costs, equipment, level of experience involved, atmosphere of the 
event, etc.
I am not sure, but I believe a horse must have a conformation evaluation in 
order to be eligble for a medallion with the performance tests, I think that 
one could enter the performance tests only and get scores, but a medallion also 
includes a conformation test.
Anyway, go find an evaluation (in your half of the country!) and test drive the 
situation before.
 
Marsha
Owner of Caribu the wonder Fjord, blue ribbon gelding with a silver medallion 
in Intro performance.  NE Versatility champ also.  Now earning his oats at 
Morven Park Equestrian center with a 68 year old driver/rider  career number 3? 
or4?
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Re: Score sheets, geldings and evaluations

2001-05-16 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
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 Catherine Lassesen writes:
 Yes, there are numbers involved and rewards. But it is the comments on the
 score sheets that are important.  I encourage everyone to go and have their
 stock evaluated.  Educate yourself.
 

Well said, Catherine.

   Now I also
 understand that equine photography is tricky, but some of the decisions
 really puzzle me.  I said all that to ask this question,... is there
 anywhere on the web, (or anyplace), that one can view the score sheets on
 specific horses?  I'm sure that the score sheet would answer any question as
 to specific scores on the various parts of the anatomy as shown in the
 Record Book.  Thanks, Judy

Yes, unfortunately, the photographs alone don't give you a good enough picture
of the real quality of the horse.  For some of the horses, the photographs were
not taken the same year as the horse was evaluated.  Some of the photographs
were snapshots, but at least there was something to put into the inaugural
book.  Hopefully, this will be remedied from now on by requiring a conformation
photograph be taken at the evaluation (which has become part of the evaluation
fee) at the time the horse was evaluated.  Also, even the slightest angle in the
photograph can distort the horse's real proportions in a sideways (conformation
shot) view.

Also in the photographs you are not able to see how the horse travels.  That is
where you might see an apparently well built horse's score go down because the
horse might not be using himself well enough, or have difficulty during
presentation, or have leg conformation problems such as winging, toeing out,
rope walking or wobbly hocks.  Some of the horses might even display lameness
due to an injury, which would also bring the movement score down.

Like Mike said, each owner receives a copy of the each judge's score sheet,
including the comments.  I find the comments very useful in helping to explain
the numbers.  If I were looking for a stallion to breed to my mare, or looking
at a horse to purchase, if the horse was evaluated, I would ask to see a
complete copy of those documents.

As far as geldings are concerned, I think that having the horse evaluated might
be useful to someone who might need to sell their gelding in the future.  If
you're not interested in selling your horse, or you're not curious about how
your horse would score, then an evaluation might not be for you.  The benefit to
the breeder is obvious.  I, like Catherine, also feel that it benefits the
breed, as a whole, to have those geldings evaluated, as one is able to see what
conformation plusses and minuses go along with which bloodlines.  This also goes
for temperament, if the horses were evaluated in the performance tests.  I,
also, think that there are a lot of nice geldings out there that might have been
good stallions.  Not all have been gelded because they're poor quality.

As far as there being too many stallions, this is a big continent and not
everyone has access to, or cares to use, transported semen (whether cooled or
frozen.)  What I would like to see is that people take advantage of the
evaluation system to analyze the quality of the stallions available, as well as
the quality of their mares, and be more descriminate about breeding.

Hope everyone is enjoying spring (which lasted about two days here, it's been in
the upper 80's consistently for the past couple of weeks.)  Much too hot here
for spring.  No bugs, yet, though.

Beth

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Beth Beymer  Sandy North
Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
http://www.starfirefarm.com





Geldings and Evaluations

2001-05-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For those of you that own geldings and wonder if it is good to evaluate your
gelding.

Yes!

It is a reflection of the mare and stallion that produced your gelding.  The
mare and stallion of the gelding are able to be rewarded for having good off
spring.  The only way to find out and be rewarded is by having all Fjords go
through the program.

It will add value to your horse and you can find out important information
for future training.

Form to Function is what the Evaluator Trainees have been taught.  Your
gelding may not be able to do some function of riding if he is not built for
it.  The evaluation should help you assess you gelding's structure and help
you with his future potential.

Catherine Lassesen
Back from Norway!