Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i, too, use a best friends muzzle on oz, and he knows that when i get it out, he gets to eat some grass. he will actually lower his head and stick his nose in the bucket. then he trots to the back of his turnout to the gate the i open to let him into the grassy area. so far we haven't had a rubbing problem, though the last time he used it regularly, he did get some black spots where it rubbed, but they were not raw. he's quite funny to watch trying to get as much as he can through the hole. he kind of tosses the basket forward a little and then drags it back to his lips. there's a lot of flat grass out there, so at least it doesn't all go into his mouth. he will run all the way to the back of the pasture, which abuts the one with charlie and gizmo. i was watching him and the mini playing under the lower fence rope. gizmo can laugh now, but i have a mini muzzle for him if he starts to chub up. laurie, and the three musketeers ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: "jen frame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Fjord mare also got a rub spot from the grazing muzzle. So I brought some real sheep skin with the fleece on it to my local saddle maker and had him sew it around the edge. It solved the problem. But you have to check the fleece every day and pull out any grass spurs or anything else that can easily get stuck in the fleece and irritate the horse. Jen On 6/17/08, Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I use the "Best Friends" muzzle. > > > > On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, "debora seely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Linda, > >What kind of muzzle do you have? > > > > Deb Seely > > > > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: grazing muzzle > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM > > > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most > part > > my > > guys do well. > > > > The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. > > > > I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse > > muzzle. > > > > The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? > > > > Linda > > > > > > "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects > > andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to > > receive." > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: grazing muzzle > > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > > > > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > > > > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face > > badly.I > > > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well > > made > > > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed > > fleece > > > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this > > problem? > > > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the > > fjords > > > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use the "Best Friends" muzzle. On 6/16/08 8:49 PM, "debora seely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > What kind of muzzle do you have? > > Deb Seely > > --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part > my > guys do well. > > The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. > > I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse > muzzle. > > The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? > > Linda > > > "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects > andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to > receive." > > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: grazing muzzle > > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face > badly.I > > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well > made > > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed > fleece > > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this > problem? > > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the > fjords > > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: grazing muzzle
This message is from: debora seely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, What kind of muzzle do you have? Deb Seely --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: grazing muzzle To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:18 PM This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part my guys do well. The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse muzzle. The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? Linda "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to receive." > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face badly.I > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well made > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed fleece > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this problem? > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the fjords > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: grazing muzzle
This message is from: Karen McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yup, me too! Rubbed horses face, but also said horse became so agitated w/ this on her head that I thought she was going to kill herself from running fences in our 20 acre pasture. (Geez, maybe that is how they lose weight?) I feared for my horses spirit and body. I tried it on her 3 days in a row. She and i were a psychic mess 'cause of it. Anyway, somewhere, I have a nice "real deal" $45 horse sized grazing muzzle if anyone wants it. > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face badly.I > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well made > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed fleece > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this problem? > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the fjords > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: grazing muzzle
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ellen.once in awhile the muzzles cause a wear area but for the most part my guys do well. The muzzle should not be so loose that is moves up and down alot. I have about an 1" 1/2 between the bottom of the muzzle and the horse muzzle. The one who has the most wear had a "boney" face. Might be why?? Linda "To experience the joy of a kind and caring relationship that respects andaccepts all of the parts of who we are is a gift.to give and to receive." > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:18 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: grazing muzzle > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: "Ellen Davidson" > > I am having trouble with the grazing muzzle rubbing the fjords face badly.I > bought large horse (which I think is the largest size).It looks very well made > and I tried to put it loosely on their faces.I even went back and sewed fleece > around the back edge when I first saw the problem.Anyone else ha this problem? > Any ideas on how to fix it? It's really the vets fault for telling the fjords > that they were too fat. Thanks,Ellen > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: grazing muzzle for hay
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It really scares me to hear of feeding round bale hay to horses. Too often they get botulism from it. Be sure the horses on round bales have botulism shots. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So Laurie, How long has it been now since your knee surgery? my friend Walt Brunner was riding some (in a Parelli clinic even) five months after his knee replacement. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska sunny and melting, 40 degrees, a lot of snow to go.
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/19/06 10:52:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Would love to hear from others that got > theirs used to this muzzle. > after asking on the board last year, and getting good advice about the best friends muzzle, i used one on him all last summer. he took to it fine. i may have poked a few blades of grass through the hole at first, but he didn't take long to figure out how it works. because they have to push the end of the muzzle straight down over standing up blades of grass, i could see him out there bringing his head up and then pushing in down, in his attempt to eat. because we put them in a dry lot at night, he was always glad to get it on in the morning, because then he knew he got to go out into the pasture. unfortunately, DH overfed him again this winter. he is at my trainer's not only on a diet, but also being ridden again. after a snotty start on his part (he actually tossed my trainer's daughter, who's been riding him, and playing bronco in the pasture), he has settled down to her doing trotting road work with him, and taking him on the trails. he has lost weight already, and his manners are getting back to where they should be. with my knee surgery, i keep wondering in the back of my head if it's going to make me fearful of riding, since coming off would not be a good plan. i know i will feel confident ground driving him after i am healed, but still wonder about the riding. guess i won't worry about it too much for a while. laurie the gimp, oz the brat
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i too was looking for a muzzle this spring when i saw how big my boy was getting. on everyone's recommendation, i purchased the best friends model and have not been disappointed with it. once or twice he figured out how to get it off by rubbing his head on the barn, but all in all, it worked well. they do develop a little diving motion to get the grass into the hole, it's rather amusing, at night when i take it off, he tends to fling his head up fast when he's getting his hay, but that goes away when he realizes there's nothing on his head. silly boy. we are very much into winter now, so i won't use it again, but it shows very little wear and should be ok for next year. he does tend to get a rub mark on one side of his cheek, but it hasn't rubbed any hair off or anything. laurie and oz, who has spent the night in the barn the last two days, since we had 40 mph wind and a temp near zero. it's not so much that he'd be cold, but i am keeping an eye on our rescue, who still has a rather thin winter coat, and really wants oz inside with him. right now oz has so much hair i can't tell if he's gained weight again, but i am thinking it's mostly coat. he's been very neat in the stall, dumping all the poop in one corner. charlie, on the other hand, does it all over and then works it into the bedding, requiring a complete stall clean out.
Re: Grazing Muzzle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a sturdy metal muzzle that I have used on all of my horses. This allows them to be with the other horses and to move about. Saves stall mucking also. Be sure to get a well made one and have it padded where it rubs the face. I put it on the horse for a few seconds, then next day for longer etc until the horse accepts it. I find it necessary to bend the frame of the muzzle to make it fit around different heads. The halter on mine is pretty unforgiving so I want to also be sure there is nothing for it to catch on. The horses show some frustration at first but then seem to quickly adapt as they do to other things. Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, Wa 98563
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's an ad in the most recent Equus for "the Grazing Muzzle", billed as Equine Weight Management. Toll free number is 1-800-681-2495. No price is mentioned. From the small photo, it looks like it just clips onto the rings of the halter, and is made of wide strapping with spaces in between so that the horse could get a little grass, but will have to work for it. Jan
Re: grazing muzzle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I bought mine from Farnams catalogue but have not had the cat. for several years. Most tack stores should carry them. Get a stout one as a horse will rub and push pretty hard. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: Laurie Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:12 PM Subject: grazing muzzle >This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >So where would one find one of these grazing muzzles? > >Laurie, who knows that Tor will NOT be happy about this! : ) > >
Re: Grazing muzzle
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gail Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > we just completed our multi-zillion dollar, absolutely safe, strong, > sturdy lockable two acre field, only now I can't put Gunthar in it! > [...] The part I forgot is that Gunthar will not bother walking two > steps if he can be eating instead. So far our idyllic pasture is > getting 15 minutes a day of use. Ah, yes---Fjord lawn mowers! I have 3 of them that'll mow a path from here to there---moving only when there's nothing edible in reach any more. My solution is electric fencing for strip-grazing. The first few days, I give them an area big enough that they won't chase each other around, but I limit their time. As they get that area stripped down, I gradually lengthen the time. When the area is down to stubble, I move the fence over 4'; iterate. Once the grass goes to seed (i.e. browns off, and drops its seed), I can give them larger areas, since they're mostly eating standing straw at that point. This effectively reseeds the main parts of the pasture for me; all I have to reseed are the areas that they strip---which are the areas that I'd otherwise have to mow, for a firebreak. Very useful, those Fjords > am considering shopping for a grazing muzzle so he can be safe in > the field (with some supervision). > > I presume I will run into the usual problems of owning a horse with a > draft-horse-forehead and a draft-pony-muzzle. Not to mention the strength of the critter, and its determination to get grass into the muzzle somehow, and enough intelligence to be really creative about it. Keep the camcorder handy I have a similar problem when trail riding. Sleepy spent some summers in pack- and dude-strings, being expected to forage while under way. I finally gave up fighting with him about it, and built him a trail muzzle. Essentially, it's a bag made out of fiberglas window screen material, which ties to the noseband of his bridle. He can breathe thru it, and even drink, just not get grass into it. (However, last ride, he bit so firmly on some grass that he ripped the screen mesh; guess I need to build a stronger one, out of the fly masks he and Rom have destroyed over the years.) Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
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This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, we just completed our multi-zillion dollar, absolutely safe, strong, sturdy lockable two acre field, only now I can't put Gunthar in it! I built this field primarily so Gunthar would get some free movement time, and incidentally, some grazing and feed cost reduction. Ha! The part I forgot is that Gunthar will not bother walking two steps if he can be eating instead. So far our idyllic pasture is getting 15 minutes a day of use. I already have Gunthar's hay cut to the bone, with only Strongid C for grain (and the occasional bucket of purloined beet pulp he manages to get from his QH stablemate when we forget to separate them properly) and there is still a lot of padding over those ribs. I'm trying to get him on a work program - but that will take a while (variety of reasons). So am considering shopping for a grazing muzzle so he can be safe in the field (with some supervision). I presume I will run into the usual problems of owning a horse with a draft-horse-forehead and a draft-pony-muzzle. Anyone have any experience shopping for and/or using a grazing muzzle? Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
