Re: Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
Just getting back from long week. Yes, this was great Bach. Going to look at this more. fM On 8/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hy if you want to try with a 3D systeme -> http://www.kirupa.com/ developer/actionscript/3dexplore.htm l Bach ll www.synchrome.net l Le 14 août 06 à 23:13, Flash Mel a écrit : Have a look at this: www.rpa.com Interesting concept. My question is merely on the zooming; zooming elements from far to wide. I like this a lot. I know it might be a bit of a challenge for me, but i'm willing to try it. If someone could point me in the direction of some conceptual ideas that would be fantastic. Thanks all. fM ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
I love Crash Media's stuff, but I find the fact it takes over your Browser size infinitely more annoying than the pseudo 3d effect of that site. I actually thought the site with it's easy option menus really quite nice. As for Jakob Nielsen, if he had his way the world would be a very droll place...(would you want the web to all look like http:// www.useit.com/). His work towards an appreciation for accessibility is respected but our world's full of so much more than numbers and facts, why shouldn't the web be the same?! Anyhow, as for the original question, a simplified concept of what's going on there... Say the distance from an item to the camera is reduced to a number (for example 0 -1000), then you can use that number to effect the scale of that object, creating the pseudo 3d 'vanishing towards the horizon'. Things you want to watch out for include: - Scale your objects using an Exponential scaler (check out the Easing ANimation Equations if you don't know them yet) - The object should have a registration point the same as your 'vanishing point' on the horizon. (In most cases you'll be using attachMovie to add your items, in which case another empty MovieClip in between can help you create this off axis space) - The amount your object is above or below the y axis will affect how much the scale effects it's Y position, which is what will give you the correct sense of depth. Leaving it on 0 will keep objects on one axis (as if you're lying on the ground looking straight ahead) - Remember to hide items above 1000 (that have gone behind the camera) or less than 0 (otherwise they start appearing again flipped round) For some kind of example (I'm sure there's better about), you can check out http://www.electricpavilion.org, click on 'Urban' or one of the other words above the Flash to see a number of buildings appear from the horizon. I can offer you examples of this code if it's helpful. Email off list. Hope this helps, Dan On 14 Aug 2006, at 23:56, eric dolecki wrote: I prefer what CRASH!MEDIA has done with projects/timeline. It doesn't consume the entire site, letting me feel like I am still in control, not navigating around in a mess of projects. Thats just me though. On 8/14/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sometimes it overwhelms the enjoyment of the information You find it enjoyable to read about an ad agency's employees? You're kidding, right? I mean, do you think that anyone would give a crap about that site if it had standard navigation? Think outside the box, man! :) Dan Efergan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
hy if you want to try with a 3D systeme -> http://www.kirupa.com/ developer/actionscript/3dexplore.htm l Bach ll www.synchrome.net l Le 14 août 06 à 23:13, Flash Mel a écrit : Have a look at this: www.rpa.com Interesting concept. My question is merely on the zooming; zooming elements from far to wide. I like this a lot. I know it might be a bit of a challenge for me, but i'm willing to try it. If someone could point me in the direction of some conceptual ideas that would be fantastic. Thanks all. fM ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
To follow what micha said, you could also add a little _x movement depending on the scale of the "timeline" clip... this will give a little more appearance of a 3D system. e.d. On 8/14/06, Michael Stuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steven Sacks | BLITZ schrieb: > I mean, do you think that anyone would give a > crap about that site if it had standard navigation? even with a non-standard navigation, which i have alrady seen some years ago (natzke etc), it stays crap. but to stay OT: the question was for some ideas to get such an effect. as this doesn't really need a 3d environment, i'd suggest you dynamically attach your clips as they should appear in time. by simply setting a listener for the scrollwheel (look this up in the manual) you get your event(s) (the time). you then scale your clips according to the _depth they have. well it's just to get you started, so don't mindif i don't get too much into details, and i'm sure there a better concepts for this. just wanted to get back OT. micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
Steven Sacks | BLITZ schrieb: I mean, do you think that anyone would give a crap about that site if it had standard navigation? even with a non-standard navigation, which i have alrady seen some years ago (natzke etc), it stays crap. but to stay OT: the question was for some ideas to get such an effect. as this doesn't really need a 3d environment, i'd suggest you dynamically attach your clips as they should appear in time. by simply setting a listener for the scrollwheel (look this up in the manual) you get your event(s) (the time). you then scale your clips according to the _depth they have. well it's just to get you started, so don't mindif i don't get too much into details, and i'm sure there a better concepts for this. just wanted to get back OT. micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
I prefer what CRASH!MEDIA has done with projects/timeline. It doesn't consume the entire site, letting me feel like I am still in control, not navigating around in a mess of projects. Thats just me though. On 8/14/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sometimes it overwhelms the enjoyment of the information You find it enjoyable to read about an ad agency's employees? You're kidding, right? I mean, do you think that anyone would give a crap about that site if it had standard navigation? Think outside the box, man! :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
> sometimes it overwhelms the enjoyment of the information You find it enjoyable to read about an ad agency's employees? You're kidding, right? I mean, do you think that anyone would give a crap about that site if it had standard navigation? Think outside the box, man! :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
Perhaps so, but a website that upfront tells you how to use it (and also has a help feature in case you need it later) can't possibly be very usability-oriented. I enjoy creative navigation as much as anyone, but sometimes it overwhelms the enjoyment of the information in the site itself. - e.d. On 8/14/06, Steven Sacks | BLITZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from a usability standpoint its not great Jakob Nielsen is overrated! ;) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
> from a usability standpoint its not great Jakob Nielsen is overrated! ;) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] zoomin'
Have a look at this: www.rpa.com Interesting concept. My question is merely on the zooming; zooming elements from far to wide. I like this a lot. I know it might be a bit of a challenge for me, but i'm willing to try it. If someone could point me in the direction of some conceptual ideas that would be fantastic. Thanks all. fM ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] zoomin'
Interesting - but from a usability standpoint its not great On 8/14/06, Flash Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have a look at this: www.rpa.com Interesting concept. My question is merely on the zooming; zooming elements from far to wide. I like this a lot. I know it might be a bit of a challenge for me, but i'm willing to try it. If someone could point me in the direction of some conceptual ideas that would be fantastic. Thanks all. fM ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com