Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Self confessed help vampire here. To be honest, I have browsed for questions to answer but have seen none I feel capable of answering yet. I shall, however, endeavour to answer one soon :-). While off topic for a minute, I would also add that personally I would prefer this all to be in web forum rather than mailing lists as it seems much easier to keep track of threads and spot unanswered queries. I do expect flames for that last comment :P. Nevermind. Kev Quoting ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been a member of a group , more strict than any other groups. It's a place for C/C++ programmers where Help Vampires more than often get these replies : Heh, that's old school. Back in the day, when all this kind of discussion took place on newsgroups, that was standard fare. Except that there wasn't any google, and vampires were told to restate their questions in the form of a haiku. Ah, the good old days when flame cascades were relegated to afk-mn (alt.fan.karl-malden.nose for the uninitiated)... good stuff. There is no cabal. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com - End forwarded message - ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
What
If you have a problem come out and say something, don't start a new account
simply to be annoying anonymously.
I replied to the original email that seemed to be talking about scoping
issues among other things and asked for more knowledge / assistance so I
pointed them at an article on scoping issues. I think that makes sense,
don't you?
Jim
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Jim Tann ?:
http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers
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Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help
solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make
those who try but fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate
all your knowledge on this subject, but please have patience with
those who are trying to learn and distinguish them from the vampires
who ask questions that are so general that they lack any knowledge of
Flash.
Entirely and completely I support this comrade.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I believe this point is important to emphasize:
This is autonomous behavior. Again, we shouldn't hate the Help Vampire. Or
stake them. They know not what they do, only that they are driven to do it,
and I believe they can be saved.
Well said!
I've been a member of a group , more strict than any other groups.
It's a place for C/C++ programmers where Help Vampires more than often
get these replies :
- http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=ask+your+questions+here+first
- what OS? what Compiler? what have you done so far?
- we are not here to do your homework
- buy a book or find another hobby
- without seeing your code, we can tell that there's an error on line 42
- jerk
- Do your homework yourself and quit being an ass
- have you heard of Google?
- http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
--
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Web|Graphic|Flash
Jl. Raya Langsep 21
Malang - East Java
I N D O N E S I A
http://design.ibshastautama.com
elibol wrote:
Wholy crap Jonathan I give you an E for (E)xcellent thesis. I didn't have
the time nor the patience to read it, so I apologize, however, I think I
should point out that nowhere in the article does it categorize anyone as
smart or stupid.
I believe this point is important to emphasize:
This is autonomous behavior. Again, we shouldn't hate the Help Vampire. Or
stake them. They know not what they do, only that they are driven to do it,
and I believe they can be saved.
M.
On 4/26/06, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this and
I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope. I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however if
I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I've been a member of a group , more strict than any other groups. It's a place for C/C++ programmers where Help Vampires more than often get these replies : Heh, that's old school. Back in the day, when all this kind of discussion took place on newsgroups, that was standard fare. Except that there wasn't any google, and vampires were told to restate their questions in the form of a haiku. Ah, the good old days when flame cascades were relegated to afk-mn (alt.fan.karl-malden.nose for the uninitiated)... good stuff. There is no cabal. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Jim Tann ?:
http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Berry
Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help
solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make
those who try but fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate
all your knowledge on this subject, but please have patience with
those who are trying to learn and distinguish them from the vampires
who ask questions that are so general that they lack any knowledge of
Flash.
Entirely and completely I support this comrade.
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Shh back off man he's got it under control.
On 4/27/06, ? ??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim Tann ?:
http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Berry
Sent: 26 April 2006 23:53
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help
solidify my knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make
those who try but fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate
all your knowledge on this subject, but please have patience with
those who are trying to learn and distinguish them from the vampires
who ask questions that are so general that they lack any knowledge of
Flash.
Entirely and completely I support this comrade.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Thanks, Jim, but you didn't read my e-mail. On 4/27/06, Jim Tann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/as2#handling_scope_in_event_handlers ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Chris Hill schrieb: hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
To make a decent multi-player game you will need a proxy server(FCS/FMS2). You could probably get away with using Jabber. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire? Chris Hill schrieb: hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Thank you for demonstrating what exactly NOT to do for a help vampire. Robert A. Colvin wrote: To make a decent multi-player game you will need a proxy server(FCS/FMS2). You could probably get away with using Jabber. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire? Chris Hill schrieb: hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
It's true that females are not as inclined to become Help Vampires. We will ask for directions sooner than most men, but we will consider our options considerably before asking technical questions. And our brains just work better anyway, really. :P Cheers! On 4/26/06, Robert A. Colvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make a decent multi-player game you will need a proxy server(FCS/FMS2). You could probably get away with using Jabber. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire? Chris Hill schrieb: hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder Applications Developer Image Action LLC Business: http://www.imageaction.com Personal: http://www.myspace.com/okallie ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you LOL! Well played. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Guess I should not post my IM on Flash message boards any more :( Oops! Although, I have to say, I once got an off-list email from somebody who asked me for help and it lead to having a regular client (I replaced them, something I wasn't entirely comfortable with at first, but if somebody isn't able to do the job, and the client needs somebody who can and they're offering good money, well, you take what you can get). ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Wait, huh? . On 4/26/06, Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's true that females are not as inclined to become Help Vampires. We will ask for directions sooner than most men, but we will consider our options considerably before asking technical questions. And our brains just work better anyway, really. :P Cheers! On 4/26/06, Robert A. Colvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To make a decent multi-player game you will need a proxy server(FCS/FMS2). You could probably get away with using Jabber. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Stuhr Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:43 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire? Chris Hill schrieb: hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you eric dolecki wrote: I know of a few... and I am sure at a few points in the past I have almost been one :) On 4/26/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder Applications Developer Image Action LLC Business: http://www.imageaction.com Personal: http://www.myspace.com/okallie ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you Haha! That deserves another laugh. I can't stop laughing. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Sharon, I think this could apply to some of our constituents: http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires :) http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires I'm not sure, what's a help vampire...? ;-) jd ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com made my day ;-) micha ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder Applications Developer Image Action LLC Business: http://www.imageaction.com Personal: http://www.myspace.com/okallie ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
hi hello how do I make a multi-player game in flash its got to have lasers thank you LOL from me too. You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? How many times have you seen posts here that are something to the effect: I need help! I have been asked to create a flash web site that connects to a SQL server database and it doesn't work the buttons only work the first time clicked but the animation plays on each scene so what should I do? Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | ICF International ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
It's true that females are not as inclined to become Help Vampires. We will ask for directions sooner than most men, but we will consider our options considerably before asking technical questions. And our brains just work better anyway, really. :P Just not at forming proper sentences in English, I guess... ;-) Normally I wouldn't stoop to a spelling lame, but when you close your email with our brains just work better, you're asking for it. :-P ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this and I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope. I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however if I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Wholy crap Jonathan I give you an E for (E)xcellent thesis. I didn't have
the time nor the patience to read it, so I apologize, however, I think I
should point out that nowhere in the article does it categorize anyone as
smart or stupid.
I believe this point is important to emphasize:
This is autonomous behavior. Again, we shouldn't hate the Help Vampire. Or
stake them. They know not what they do, only that they are driven to do it,
and I believe they can be saved.
M.
On 4/26/06, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this and
I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope. I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however if
I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Yes, I forgot to change the subject line to ask my question as well. I was
not referring to the article, but to the reaction to people who ask for help
in general.
On 4/26/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wholy crap Jonathan I give you an E for (E)xcellent thesis. I didn't have
the time nor the patience to read it, so I apologize, however, I think I
should point out that nowhere in the article does it categorize anyone as
smart or stupid.
I believe this point is important to emphasize:
This is autonomous behavior. Again, we shouldn't hate the Help Vampire.
Or
stake them. They know not what they do, only that they are driven to do
it,
and I believe they can be saved.
M.
On 4/26/06, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and
I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if
I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Are you a help vampire?
Haha! Dammit Ryan, what I meant to say was that our brains work
better when the right conditions are met. i.e. - sufficient caffeine
intake, balanced hormone levels, and the lack of men asking us to do
everything for them. :)
I considered this post considerably before posting it.
On 4/26/06, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I forgot to change the subject line to ask my question as well. I was
not referring to the article, but to the reaction to people who ask for help
in general.
On 4/26/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wholy crap Jonathan I give you an E for (E)xcellent thesis. I didn't have
the time nor the patience to read it, so I apologize, however, I think I
should point out that nowhere in the article does it categorize anyone as
smart or stupid.
I believe this point is important to emphasize:
This is autonomous behavior. Again, we shouldn't hate the Help Vampire.
Or
stake them. They know not what they do, only that they are driven to do
it,
and I believe they can be saved.
M.
On 4/26/06, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to offer a basic counterpoint to this: what if the question is
just
from a beginner, who has in fact researched a problem found the
documentation/resources incomplete in some way? Is it just because a
person
is a beginner that you will not offer help?
Case in point, and be patient with me. I am not by any means venting
here,
but I offered a question some time ago about the basic placement of
anonymous functions like btn1.onRelease =
function(){getURL(_root.variable_name,_blank);} and also asked about
whether or not such a function required the _root if it was in fact on
the
_root timeline. I actually received some very nice assistance on this
and
I
appreciate the poster, since though I did discover that this was true
through experimentation myself, he did give me a short lesson on scope.
I
had already learned about the Delegate class, but this basic issue was
not
clear in my reading, so I would not know I had to use _root or Delegate
or
what have you. I do know some Javascript and PHP and so programming is
not
beyond me, but learning a new technology from the ground up is the way I
learn generally. I like to know *all* the aspects. So please permit
those
who are learning and obviously trying the benefit of the doubt.
Another thing is further questions on the same subject. In this same
issue,
I had the question are such function assignments applicable to a button
if
the code is placed before the button on the timeline? I got a no, of
course, which was a basic thing I had sketchy knowledge on. What I had
was
an ad sent to us by a client wherein the previous coder had used on()
handlers on the clips and I was trying to rewrite it to include the
anonymous functions and our variables, as stated before. When I wrote in
the
code in a keyframe in the actions layer above where the button was
instantiated, it worked, but when a new keyframe in the button layer
came
up, I had to re-enter the code there as well. This seemed like
repetitive
work and my further question about this was not answered.
My point is, does this make me dumb? No. It would make me lazy however
if
I
did not research this. But this basic practice of where code should be
written and how often was not clear to me since the project was not
working
in subsequent frames and the documentation I had read seemed to say
write
and be done with it.
I suppose I am both asking this general question again, to help solidify
my
knowledge, and also pointing out that this does not make those who try
but
fail stupid. All I am saying is that I appreciate all your knowledge on
this
subject, but please have patience with those who are trying to learn and
distinguish them from the vampires who ask questions that are so general
that they lack any knowledge of Flash.
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