Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-04 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 22:13 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote:
 On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
 Paul Furber wrote:
 
  Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna.
 
 How in the world did you get the Cessna up there!

From the command line :]
fgfs --lat=87.001 --lon=28.001 --altitude=31000

The plane stalled and then as it recovered I paused and snapped the
screenshot. You can see the instruments haven't settled down yet and the
throttle is at idle.
Interestingly the Cessna *does* fly quite nicely at that altitude but
the F-16 just drops out of the sky in a flat spin (for me anyway).

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:26:54 +0200, Paul wrote in message 
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 On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 22:13 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote:
  On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
  Paul Furber wrote:
  
   Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna.
  
  How in the world did you get the Cessna up there!
 
 From the command line :]
 fgfs --lat=87.001 --lon=28.001 --altitude=31000

..it needs airspeed too, try ' --vc=130 ' and full power.

 The plane stalled and then as it recovered I paused and snapped the
 screenshot. You can see the instruments haven't settled down yet and
 the throttle is at idle.
 Interestingly the Cessna *does* fly quite nicely at that altitude but
 the F-16 just drops out of the sky in a flat spin (for me anyway).

..it should sink towards a coupla thousand feet above the service
ceiling, which usually is defined as the altitude where ROC drops 
below 50 (or 100?) fpm. 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Phil Cazzola
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Furber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in 
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On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:17 +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
That's an old, well known bug. If you position fgfs exactly on the tile 
boundaries
(*integer* lon/lat), the intersection code somehow falls through between 
the
tiles. Try this:

  $ ./fgfs --lat=87.001 --long=28.001 --altitude=3
     
Thanks - this worked a treat. I'm now flying at 32000 feet over the
breathtaking, er, sea. Oops - looks like I picked the wrong tile set :)
I wasn't sure if you figured this out:
Lat=87 and Long=28  would be a polar location, somewhere north of Murmansk.
Lat =28  and Long=87  is on the China/Nepal border

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:22 -0600, Phil Cazzola wrote:
 I wasn't sure if you figured this out:
 
 Lat=87 and Long=28  would be a polar location, somewhere north of Murmansk.
 
 Lat =28  and Long=87  is on the China/Nepal border

Thanks - I did have it the right way around when running it - just typed
it in wrong in the previous e-mail. I've just downloaded the e080n20
tileset and there now seems to be a large peak of ~29 000ft on the
China/Nepal border :]

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:46 -0400, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On May 3, 2005 01:52 pm, Paul Furber wrote:
  Thanks - I did have it the right way around when running it - just typed
  it in wrong in the previous e-mail. I've just downloaded the e080n20
  tileset and there now seems to be a large peak of ~29 000ft on the
  China/Nepal border :]
 
 Some screenshots will be nice.

Ask and ye shall receive:

Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. The SouthEast ridge slopes
away to the right and in the saddle on the far right is the top of the
Lhotse face.
http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-1.jpg

An external view:
http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-2.jpg

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 23:59 +0200, Paul Furber wrote:
 Ask and ye shall receive:
 
 Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. 

Er, that should be NNE...
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Adam Dershowitz
I hope you were using Oxygen (for you and the engine!)

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 From: Paul Furber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org
 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
 To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@flightgear.org
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in
 theHimalayas
 
 On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:46 -0400, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On May 3, 2005 01:52 pm, Paul Furber wrote:
 Thanks - I did have it the right way around when running it - just typed
 it in wrong in the previous e-mail. I've just downloaded the e080n20
 tileset and there now seems to be a large peak of ~29 000ft on the
 China/Nepal border :]
 
 Some screenshots will be nice.
 
 Ask and ye shall receive:
 
 Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. The SouthEast ridge slopes
 away to the right and in the saddle on the far right is the top of the
 Lhotse face.
 http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-1.jpg
 
 An external view:
 http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-2.jpg
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Chris Metzler
On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
Paul Furber wrote:

 Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna.

How in the world did you get the Cessna up there!

-c


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 3 May 2005 22:13:40 -0400, Chris wrote in message 
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 On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
 Paul Furber wrote:
 
  Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna.
 
 How in the world did you get the Cessna up there!

..^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U^U  ;o)

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