FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hi
I used to apply paragraphs by pressing F9+first letters in paragraph
name+Enter. Suddenly this doesn't work in Framemaker 8.
Do you know why - I have seen it working.
 
Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards

Verner Andersen

Technical Writer


Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Klaus Daube]

   On 24 Sep 2007 at 21:29, Dov Isaacs wrote:

Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for

Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to

ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.

Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have
   prior

versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp.

   This pricing is very interesting.

   I have payed for my FM8 update here in Europe CHF 565.00 (approx USD
   470; in the US the update is USD 299).

   Comparing to the full FM8 price (US: USD 899, Europe: approx USD 1350)
   the offer is very compelling: 4 for 1.5!

   That may be reason for me to dive into a new purchase!

   Klaus Daube

   

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

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   Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78

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Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Verner,

Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I 
pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner 
of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.


Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).

Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect

Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor





Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:

Hi
I used to apply paragraphs by pressing F9+first letters in paragraph
name+Enter. Suddenly this doesn't work in Framemaker 8.
Do you know why - I have seen it working.
 
Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards


Verner Andersen

Technical Writer


Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
DK-2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
CVR: 13496188




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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Great news!

This seems to me to be the official stamp of Adobe finally
acknowledging FrameMaker for what it is first and foremost: the best
all-over technical publication workhorse.

IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the
best tools for regular book layout, except for one factor: Foreign
language support is very little. Only a few languages are really
supported. So therefore the vast majority are using Quark and
InDesign.

But congratulations, Adobe; congratulatios Framedome.

Bodvar


On 9/25/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
 Suite

 Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to
 RoboHelp

 Business Editors/Technology Writers

 SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
 Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
 Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
 for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
 training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
 Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
 instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
 courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
 and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
 compatible video and 3D.

 The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's
 help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
 FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
 media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
 MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
 Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
 Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
 information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.

 Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
 to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
 communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior
 vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical
 Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
 technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
 workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
 support.

 Inside the Technical Communication Suite

 Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
 technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
 content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
 the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online
 help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
 need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
 Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.

 Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
 standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
 indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
 navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
 conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific
 purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
 RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
 easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
 include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
 the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more
 details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.

 Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
 publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
 the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
 Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
 can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
 demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
 development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
 secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe
 PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and
 incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD
 software.

 Pricing and Availability

 Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
 Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to
 ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
 Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior
 versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more
 about the suite please visit
 www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.

 RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft
 Windows 

Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

[Sarah O'Keefe]

The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
flashing F9 to stop.

Sarah

Yves Barbion wrote:
 Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
 pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
 of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.
 
 Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).



-- 

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Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest
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Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

[Yves Barbion]

Indeed Sarah,

same behavior in Windows XP, and with the Character Designer open too.



Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect

Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor




Sarah O'Keefe wrote:

The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
flashing F9 to stop.

Sarah

Yves Barbion wrote:
  

Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.

Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).





  

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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only
been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so
to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together.

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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Michael O'Neill]

I wondered the same thing.  From what it looks like to me, RoboHelp
supports Framemaker in that it imports .fm and .mif files.  Since they
don't list Frame as a supported authoring environment, it doesn't look
like it is heavily integrated (/assumption). 

Here's what I gleaned off the website:

Support for Adobe FrameMaker 8 (Enhanced)

Import multiple Adobe FrameMaker(r) files (MIF and FM) at one time with
tables of contents, indexes, and glossaries. Apply conditional build
tags or user-defined variables to content before importing or when it's
time to publish. Map FrameMaker styles to RoboHelp styles when importing
MIF files. Repurpose FrameMaker content for HTML publishing on import
and use Topic Alias Markers to identify context-sensitive help.
   http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/features/

Which authoring environment does RoboHelp 7 support other than the
built-in HTML editor?
RoboHelp 7 supports Adobe Dreamweaver(r) CS3; Macromedia(r)
Dreamweaver 8 from Adobe; Microsoft FrontPage 2003; HomeSite 5.5; and
Microsoft Word 2007, Word 2003, Word 2002, and Word 2000.
http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/

Does RoboHelp 7 integrate with FrameMaker?
You can import FrameMaker 8 MIF and FM files with style mapping,
conditional tags, user-defined variables, and Captivate content intact.
Additional RoboHelp 7 and FrameMaker integration can be experienced
through new Adobe Technical Communication Suite software, which includes
RoboHelp 7, FrameMaker 8, Captivate 3, and Adobe Acrobat(r) 3D Version 8
software.
http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/



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So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only
been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so
to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work
together.

-- 
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, 
and the link below is no longer available.


To learn more
about the suite please visit
www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Dov Isaacs wrote:

( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
Suite

Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to
RoboHelp

Business Editors/Technology Writers

SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
compatible video and 3D.

The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's
help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.

Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior
vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical
Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
support.

Inside the Technical Communication Suite

Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online
help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.

Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific
purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more
details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.

Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe
PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and
incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD
software.

Pricing and Availability

Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to
ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior
versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more
about the suite please visit
www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.

RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft
Windows Vista, Windows XP or Windows 2000 and are expected to ship by
the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$999 for RoboHelp 7
and US$1,999 for RoboHelp Server 7. Customers of RoboHelp 6 and
RoboHelp Server 6 can upgrade for an estimated price of US$79 and
US$160 respectively. Customers of any previous version of RoboHelp can
upgrade to RoboHelp 7 for an estimated price of US$499. For 

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Mark Southee]

 
This one should work.

http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

Cheers

Mark

Mark Southee 
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m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56
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Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site,
and the link below is no longer available.

To learn more
about the suite please visit
www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Dov Isaacs wrote:
 ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication 
 Suite

 Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to

 RoboHelp

 Business Editors/Technology Writers

 SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems 
 Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical 
 Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution 
 for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and 
 training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the 
 Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and 
 instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning 
 courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text 
 and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player 
 compatible video and 3D.

 The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's

 help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
 FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich 
 media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
 MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe 
 Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing 
 Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling 
 information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.

 Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position 
 to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical 
 communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior 
 vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical 
 Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take 
 technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved 
 workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode 
 support.

 Inside the Technical Communication Suite

 Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling 
 technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging 
 content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For 
 the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online

 help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the 
 need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds 
 Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.

 Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate 
 standard and advanced help features, including table of contents, 
 indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and 
 navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply 
 conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific

 purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
 RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing 
 easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features 
 include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to 
 the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more

 details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.

 Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and 
 publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with 
 the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and 
 Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors 
 can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product 
 demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia 
 development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more 
 secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe 
 PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and 
 incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD 
 software.

 Pricing and Availability

 Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
 Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to 
 ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
 Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior 
 versions 

Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Does not work either for me, but this one does:
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/?promoid=BJXOA

Bodvar

On 9/25/07, Mark Southee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This one should work.

 http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

 Cheers

 Mark

 Mark Southee
 Documentation Manager
 SurfControl
 Direct: +44 01260 296139
 Fax: +44 01260 296201
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.surfcontrol.com

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
 Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56
 To: Framers
 Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

 Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site,
 and the link below is no longer available.

 To learn more
 about the suite please visit
 www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.


 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson




 Dov Isaacs wrote:
  ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
  Suite
 
  Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to

  RoboHelp
 
  Business Editors/Technology Writers
 
  SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
  Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
  Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
  for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
  training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
  Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
  instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
  courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
  and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
  compatible video and 3D.
 
  The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's

  help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
  FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
  8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
  media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
  MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
  Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
  Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
  information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.
 
  Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
  to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
  communicators and instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior
  vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical
  Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
  technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
  workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
  support.
 
  Inside the Technical Communication Suite
 
  Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
  technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
  content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
  the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online

  help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
  need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
  Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.
 
  Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
  standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
  indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
  navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
  conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific

  purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
  RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
  easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
  include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
  the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more

  details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.
 
  Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
  publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
  the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
  Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
  can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
  demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
  development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
  secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe
  PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and
  incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD
  software.
 
  Pricing and Availability
 
  Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be 

Re: Adobe Acrobat 8

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   Don't expect the bugs to be fixed until 8.x, where x is greater than
   0.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

   Danny G Green wrote:

 In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text,
 and words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2.  Is anyone still
 having problems?
 Thanks
 Danny Green
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Re: Adobe Acrobat 8

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Don't expect the bugs to be fixed until 8.x, where x is greater than 0.

Regards,
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Danny G Green wrote:
In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and 
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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[richard.melanson]

 WOW !!! Outstanding. Way to go Adobe !

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( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to RoboHelp

Business Editors/Technology Writers

SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems 
Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical Communication 
Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution for authoring, managing, 
and publishing technical information and training content across multiple 
formats and languages. Using the Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical 
communicators and instructional designers can create powerful documentation, 
eLearning courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text 
and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player compatible 
video and 3D.

The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's help 
system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich media formats 
-- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe Portable 
Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) -- 
empower authors to deliver compelling information, save time and reduce 
discrepancies in content.

Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position to deliver 
a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical communicators and 
instructional designers, said Naresh Gupta, senior vice president, Print and 
Classic Publishing at Adobe. The Technical Communication Suite provides all 
the tools publishers need to take technical communication to the next level 
with dramatically improved workflows and rich features like video, animations, 
3D and Unicode support.

Inside the Technical Communication Suite

Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling technical 
communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging content for embedded help 
systems and standalone knowledge bases. For the first time, technical 
communicators can easily update their online help systems with information 
authored in FrameMaker 8, without the need to re-import files for each update. 
The new release also adds Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.

Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate standard 
and advanced help features, including table of contents, indexes, glossaries, 
graphics, sound, video, simulations and navigation. Authors can generate 
multiple tables of content and apply conditional tags, index items, folders, 
and tailor output for specific purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF 
and FlashHelp(R).
RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing easy copy 
and paste editing across topics. Additional new features include an updated and 
customizable user interface, enhancements to the HTML editor, and improved 
navigation and search features. For more details please visit 
www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.

Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and publishing 
tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with the power of XML. The 
new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and Unicode. With the integration of 
Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors can deliver high-impact information with 
quizzes, visual product demonstrations and simulations - all without the need 
for multimedia development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and 
more secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe PDF 
documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and incorporate 
interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD software.

Pricing and Availability

Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to ship by the 
end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior versions 
of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more about the suite 
please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.

RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft Windows 
Vista, Windows XP or Windows 2000 and are expected to ship by the end of 
October 2007 at an estimated price of US$999 for RoboHelp 7 and US$1,999 for 
RoboHelp Server 7. Customers of RoboHelp 6 and RoboHelp Server 6 can upgrade 
for an estimated price of 

RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Richard Levine]

According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way .fm or .mif
file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.

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So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful
marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short
time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together.

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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Kelly McDaniel]

Right, IMHO! Migration, not integration...Kelly. 

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According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way .fm or
.mif
file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.

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So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful
marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short
time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work
together.

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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Lin Surasky]

 
 According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way 
 .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not 
 integration in my book.
 

Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which
imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then
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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't
single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM.
It's a repurposing solution.

On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way
  .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not
  integration in my book.
 

 Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which
 imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then

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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine:

According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way .fm  
or .mif

file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.


No, it's more than that.

It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very  
much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your  
FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output,  
if you want so. But you can do local changes, if you like breaking  
your single-source workflow.


Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see  
FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of  
integration with RoboHelp.


- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Yves Barbion]

Great! I think the Tech Com suite is definitely a move in the right 
direction. I would add Photoshop and Illustrator to that suite as well.


I'm wondering whether this can be done:

   * Author and maintain DITA content in FrameMaker.
   * Import the ditamap instead of the FM book file into the RoboHelp
 Project.
   * Generate WebHelp or FlashHelp.

Of course, with all the DITA bells and whistles (conrefs, reltables, 
...) fully supported.


Kind regards

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Documentation Architect

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Michael Müller-Hillebrand wrote:

Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine:

According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is one-way .fm or 
.mif

file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.


No, it's more than that.

It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very 
much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your 
FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output, 
if you want so. But you can do local changes, if you like breaking 
your single-source workflow.


Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see 
FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of 
integration with RoboHelp.


- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

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SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Jacob Schäffer]

As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to 
break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need 
be for last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the 
single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more 
overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price.

Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really 
nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to 
implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting (you 
call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution for all 
parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is still 
quite ideal in my view.

I can't do anything else than welcome the new Techical Suite concept although 
several improvements still can be made (fortunately)!

All the best
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 Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't 
 single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content 
 back to FM. It's a repurposing solution.
 
 On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  integration is 
 one-way .fm or 
   .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration 
 in my book.
  
 
  Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which 
  imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then
 
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Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all,

 

I've sent the following Frame 8 bug to Adobe, but now I need to figure out
how to fix it in my documents. When I bring in Word text with the RTF import
(Copy  Paste Special  RTF), randomly, the close quote marks are reversed.
I can't duplicate this in email, but imagine the open quote looks just fine,
and what should be a close quote at the other end of the passage is actually
another open quote. This happens with both single and double quotes. So,
that includes apostrophes, because they are the equivalent of a single close
quote mark.

 

This is also random and inconsistent. Sometimes it works fine.

 

What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I
can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this,
Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this
search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote
marks I want to search for (opening or closing)?

 

Tina

 

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Re: Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes

[Stuart Rogers]

Tina Ricks wrote:


What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I
can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this,
Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this
search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote
marks I want to search for (opening or closing)?



According to the Help topic Typing in Dialog Boxes, a backslash 
followed by a grave accent will find double left quotes, ie, opening 
smart quotes.  Is that how you're searching?



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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Combs, Richard]

Bill Swallow wrote:
 
 Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't 
 single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM.
 It's a repurposing solution.


If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using
Acrobat Distiller and Webworks Publisher to create deliverables from
your FM files wouldn't qualify. 

As Michael noted, the integration or whatever you call it seems to make
it unnecessary (although still possible) to make changes in RH after
importing the FM source. If that's true, then you can single-source. 

Take a look at the FAQ
(http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/faq/),
especially these questions:

- What does Technical Communication Suite offer technical communicators
and help authors that they don't already get with FrameMaker or
RoboHelp?

- Will RoboHelp 7 work with RoboHelp projects that have FrameMaker
source files added as links?

- Is there a difference between the standalone versions of RoboHelp 7,
FrameMaker 8, Acrobat 3D Version 8, and Captivate 3 and the software
versions included in Technical Communication Suite?

- What are the key benefits of Technical Communication Suite?

Note that the suite versions of FM8 and RH7 have unique features to
improve the workflow that are not included in the standalone versions.
If you just sprang for the standalone version of either or both, you may
want to whine to your Adobe representative about some kind of
(inexpensive) migration path. :-)

Richard


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RE: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Sean Pollock]

As long as the RH output can be perfected from within Frame (probably best done 
in xml), it's fine. If you have to output to RH, then make any large changes in 
RH, and then output to a preferred format (HTML help, JavaHelp, etc.), there's 
really no advantage.Sean Pollock
Learning  Media DevelopmentSiemens PLM Software



 Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:47:16 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite  As I see it: With 
 the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to break the 
 single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need be for 
 last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the 
 single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more 
 overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price.  
 Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really 
 nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to 
 implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting 
 (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution 
 for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is 
 still quite ideal in my view.  I can't do anything else than welcome the 
 new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made 
 (fortunately)!  All the best Jacob Schäffer Grafikhuset ApS Paradis Allé 
 22 Ramløse 3200 Helsinge-Oprindelig meddelelse-  Fra: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ] På vegne af Bill 
 Swallow  Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22  Til: Lin Surasky  Cc: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Emne: Re: Adobe 
 Unveils Technical Communication Suite  Doesn't seem like much of an 
 integration, and certainly isn't   single-sourcing given you can't 
 round-trip the RH content   back to FM. It's a repurposing solution.
 On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  According to 
 Adobe's web site, RH 7 integration is   one-way .fm or .mif file 
 import. If this is true, it is not integration   in my book.   
  Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which
 imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then--   
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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

 If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using
 Acrobat Distiller and Webworks Publisher to create deliverables from
 your FM files wouldn't qualify.

On the surface this would appear to be true, however Distiller and WWP
are not authoring environments. The FM files remain unaltered in those
models. That is, the single source is used. FM+RH is still repurposing
content from FM into RH then out to whatever output you choose, and
unless I'm missing something, if you make changes in RH to your
content, you can't repurpose the content back to FM.

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RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Combs, Richard]

Bill Swallow wrote: 

 FM+RH is still repurposing content from FM 
 into RH then out to whatever output you choose, and unless 
 I'm missing something, if you make changes in RH to your 
 content, you can't repurpose the content back to FM.

That's true *if* you make changes in RH to your content -- but Adobe
seems to be saying (and Michael has confirmed) that you don't *need* to
make changes in RH (unlike in earlier versions). 

IOW, you can use RH as an output engine, not an authoring tool, if you
choose to do so. At least, that seems to be the promise. 

If the authoring in RH is _no_longer_necessary_ and you
_refrain_from_doing_it_ -- then, by golly, you're single sourcing.

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Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

[Neeraj Jain]

I guess that this problem is solved now. BTW, i checked this issue in FM 7.1. 
When I did not open the paragraph designer, I was able to use the shortcut 
functionality.
 

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To: Sarah O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+first letter in pragraph name

Indeed Sarah,

same behavior in Windows XP, and with the Character Designer open too.



Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor




Sarah O'Keefe wrote:
 The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
 On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
 flashing F9 to stop.

 Sarah

 Yves Barbion wrote:
   
 Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
 pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
 of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.

 Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).
 



   
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Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Hedley Finger]

Bodvar and others:

At Tuesday, 25/09/2007, 07:07 PM;, you wrote:

IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the
best tools for regular book layout,


Well, it will be if we ALL start screaming for

@   working in double-spreads, i.e.
-- photographs and graphics that spread across the gutter of
   facing pages,
-- automatic equalising the depth of facing pages
-- sideheads that are (optionally) automatically ragged L flush
   R on left pages, ragged R flush L on right pages
-- table and figure titles that are (optionally) 
automatically ragged L

   flush R on left pages, ragged R flush L on right pages
PageMaker could a lot of the above and, it is reputed, so can
InDesign!

@   floating tables that don't drag the lines from their anchor paragraph
onto the next page

@   a unified figure element like a one-celled table with integrated title,
caption, and graphic components; can also float

@   tables and figures that can have their titles above, below, 
to the left

or to the right of the table body

@   footnotes (*, +, etc.) and endnotes/citations (1, 2, etc.) mingled
on the same page

@   proper support for notes other than footnotes: chapter endnotes, book
endnotes

@   automatic flowing of lengthy footnotes over successive pages if they
exceed the allowable footnote depth on a page

@   support for bibliographies/citations (inc. Harvard and Chicago style)

@   a multifaceted cross-reference format that automatically adjusts for
the location of the target:
'see Table 9.2 opposite' // doublespread
'see Table 9.2 previous' // ref on L page pointing to prev R
'see Table 9.2 overleaf'' // ref on R page pointing to next L
'see Table 9.2 above' // same page
'see Table 9.2 below' // same page
'see Table 9.2, 'Desirable features for FM', on page 167' // 
far target


@   a proper indexing app built-in that shows real-time display of all
entries and allows a main entry to be changed, thus changing all
markers with that main entry; just mash-up emDex, IXgen, Index Pro,
Macrex, Cindex, Sky Index, etc.; also includes progressive match
with similar existing entries, a thesaurus/taxonomy for 
different subject

domains that similarly proposes candidate entries

@   in Indexes, automatic continuation entries when subentries break from
an R page to a following L, e.g.

canines (cont.)
breeds
recommended diet
exercise requirements

@   internal xrefs as hotlinks in PDFs, e.g.

dogs. See canines

@   automatic updating of index xrefs if target changes

@   as well as automatically associating graphic elements above and below
paragraphs, how about to the left or right and BEHIND the para?

Altogether now ...

What do we want?
ALL OF THE ABOVE

When do we want it?
FOUR RELEASES AGO

Given Frame Technologies' and Adobe's history of issuing releases with
minimal features for large upgrade fees, we can expect all of the above
to be implemented in ... let's count up ... release 22!

Regards,
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FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hi
I used to apply paragraphs by pressing F9++Enter. Suddenly this doesn't work in Framemaker 8.
Do you know why - I have seen it working.

Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards

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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Klaus Daube]

   On 24 Sep 2007 at 21:29, Dov Isaacs wrote:

   > Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for

   > Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to

   > ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.

   > Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have
   prior

   > versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp.

   This pricing is very interesting.

   I have payed for my FM8 update here in Europe CHF 565.00 (approx USD
   470; in the US the update is USD 299).

   Comparing to the full FM8 price (US: USD 899, Europe: approx USD 1350)
   the offer is very compelling: 4 for 1.5!

   That may be reason for me to dive into a new purchase!

   Klaus Daube

   

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   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78

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FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Verner,

Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I 
pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner 
of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.

Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).

Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor





Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:
> Hi
> I used to apply paragraphs by pressing F9+ name>+Enter. Suddenly this doesn't work in Framemaker 8.
> Do you know why - I have seen it working.
>  
> Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards
>
> Verner Andersen
>
> Technical Writer
> 
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS 
> Akandevej 21 
> DK-2700 Bronshoj 
> Denmark 
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> CVR: 13496188
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Great news!

This seems to me to be the official stamp of Adobe finally
acknowledging FrameMaker for what it is first and foremost: the best
all-over technical publication workhorse.

IMHO it only remains for Adobe to realise that FM is also one of the
best tools for regular book layout, except for one factor: Foreign
language support is very little. Only a few languages are really
supported. So therefore the vast majority are using Quark and
InDesign.

But congratulations, Adobe; congratulatios Framedome.

Bodvar


On 9/25/07, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
> Suite
>
> Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to
> RoboHelp
>
> Business Editors/Technology Writers
>
> SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
> Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
> Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
> for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
> training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
> instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
> courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
> and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
> compatible video and 3D.
>
> The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's
> help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
> FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
> 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
> media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
> MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
> Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
> Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
> information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.
>
> "Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
> to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
> communicators and instructional designers," said Naresh Gupta, senior
> vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. "The Technical
> Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
> technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
> workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
> support."
>
> Inside the Technical Communication Suite
>
> Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
> technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
> content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
> the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online
> help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
> need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
> Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.
>
> Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
> standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
> indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
> navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
> conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific
> purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
> RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
> easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
> include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
> the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more
> details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.
>
> Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
> publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
> the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
> Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
> can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
> demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
> development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
> secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe
> PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and
> incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD
> software.
>
> Pricing and Availability
>
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
> Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to
> ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
> Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior
> versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more
> about the suite please visit
> www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.
>
> RoboHelp 

FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

[Sarah O'Keefe]

The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
"flashing F9" to stop.

Sarah

Yves Barbion wrote:
> Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
> pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
> of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.
> 
> Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).



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FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

[Yves Barbion]

Indeed Sarah,

same behavior in Windows XP, and with the Character Designer open too.



Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor




Sarah O'Keefe wrote:
> The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
> On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
> "flashing F9" to stop.
>
> Sarah
>
> Yves Barbion wrote:
>   
>> Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
>> pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
>> of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.
>>
>> Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).
>> 
>
>
>
>   

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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only
been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so
to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together.

-- 
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Michael O'Neill]

I wondered the same thing.  From what it looks like to me, RoboHelp
supports Framemaker in that it imports .fm and .mif files.  Since they
don't list Frame as a supported "authoring environment", it doesn't look
like it is heavily integrated (/assumption). 

Here's what I gleaned off the website:

"Support for Adobe FrameMaker 8 (Enhanced)

Import multiple Adobe FrameMaker(r) files (MIF and FM) at one time with
tables of contents, indexes, and glossaries. Apply conditional build
tags or user-defined variables to content before importing or when it's
time to publish. Map FrameMaker styles to RoboHelp styles when importing
MIF files. Repurpose FrameMaker content for HTML publishing on import
and use Topic Alias Markers to identify context-sensitive help."
   http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/features/

"Which authoring environment does RoboHelp 7 support other than the
built-in HTML editor?
RoboHelp 7 supports Adobe Dreamweaver(r) CS3; Macromedia(r)
Dreamweaver 8 from Adobe; Microsoft FrontPage 2003; HomeSite 5.5; and
Microsoft Word 2007, Word 2003, Word 2002, and Word 2000."
http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/

"Does RoboHelp 7 integrate with FrameMaker?
You can import FrameMaker 8 MIF and FM files with style mapping,
conditional tags, user-defined variables, and Captivate content intact.
Additional RoboHelp 7 and FrameMaker integration can be experienced
through new Adobe Technical Communication Suite software, which includes
RoboHelp 7, FrameMaker 8, Captivate 3, and Adobe Acrobat(r) 3D Version 8
software."
http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/productinfo/faq/



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Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:23 AM
To: richard.melanson at us.tel.com
Cc: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com; framers at 
frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only
been a short time since the two were developed under the same roof, so
to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work
together.

-- 
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HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site, 
and the link below is no longer available.

"To learn more
about the suite please visit
www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite."


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Dov Isaacs wrote:
> ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
> Suite
>
> Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to
> RoboHelp
>
> Business Editors/Technology Writers
>
> SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
> Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
> Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
> for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
> training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
> instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
> courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
> and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
> compatible video and 3D.
>
> The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's
> help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
> FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
> 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
> media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
> MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
> Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
> Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
> information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.
>
> "Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
> to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
> communicators and instructional designers," said Naresh Gupta, senior
> vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. "The Technical
> Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
> technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
> workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
> support."
>
> Inside the Technical Communication Suite
>
> Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
> technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
> content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
> the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online
> help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
> need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
> Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.
>
> Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
> standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
> indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
> navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
> conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific
> purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
> RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
> easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
> include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
> the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more
> details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.
>
> Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
> publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
> the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
> Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
> can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
> demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
> development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
> secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe
> PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and
> incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD
> software.
>
> Pricing and Availability
>
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
> Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to
> ship by the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
> Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior
> versions of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more
> about the suite please visit
> www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.
>
> RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft
> Windows Vista, Windows XP or Windows 2000 and are expected to ship by
> the end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$999 for RoboHelp 7
> and US$1,999 for RoboHelp Server 7. Customers of RoboHelp 6 and
> RoboHelp Server 6 can upgrade 

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Mark Southee]

This one should work.

http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/

Cheers

Mark

Mark Southee 
Documentation Manager 
SurfControl 
Direct: +44 01260 296139
Fax: +44 01260 296201
mark.southee at surfcontrol.com
www.surfcontrol.com 

 SurfControl - Enterprise Threat Protection

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+mark.southee=surfcontrol@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+mark.southee=surfcontrol.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56
To: Framers
Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site,
and the link below is no longer available.

"To learn more
about the suite please visit
www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite."


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson




Dov Isaacs wrote:
> ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication 
> Suite
>
> Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to

> RoboHelp
>
> Business Editors/Technology Writers
>
> SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems 
> Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical 
> Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution 
> for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and 
> training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the 
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and 
> instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning 
> courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text 
> and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player 
> compatible video and 3D.
>
> The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's

> help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
> FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
> 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich 
> media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
> MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe 
> Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing 
> Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling 
> information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.
>
> "Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position 
> to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical 
> communicators and instructional designers," said Naresh Gupta, senior 
> vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. "The Technical 
> Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take 
> technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved 
> workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode 
> support."
>
> Inside the Technical Communication Suite
>
> Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling 
> technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging 
> content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For 
> the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online

> help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the 
> need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds 
> Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.
>
> Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate 
> standard and advanced help features, including table of contents, 
> indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and 
> navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply 
> conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific

> purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
> RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing 
> easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features 
> include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to 
> the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more

> details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.
>
> Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and 
> publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with 
> the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and 
> Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors 
> can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product 
> demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia 
> development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more 
> secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe 
> PDF documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and 
> incorporate interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD 
> software.
>
> Pricing and Availability
>
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
> Microsoft(R) Windows 

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Does not work either for me, but this one does:
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/?promoid=BJXOA

Bodvar

On 9/25/07, Mark Southee  wrote:
>
> This one should work.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> Mark Southee
> Documentation Manager
> SurfControl
> Direct: +44 01260 296139
> Fax: +44 01260 296201
> mark.southee at surfcontrol.com
> www.surfcontrol.com
>
>  SurfControl - Enterprise Threat Protection
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+mark.southee=surfcontrol.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+mark.southee=surfcontrol.com at lists.frameusers.co
> m] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: 25 September 2007 15:56
> To: Framers
> Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
>
> Are you sure it's still available. I can't find this on Adobe's site,
> and the link below is no longer available.
>
> "To learn more
> about the suite please visit
> www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite."
>
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
>
>
> Dov Isaacs wrote:
> > ( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication
> > Suite
> >
> > Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to
>
> > RoboHelp
> >
> > Business Editors/Technology Writers
> >
> > SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems
> > Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical
> > Communication Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution
> > for authoring, managing, and publishing technical information and
> > training content across multiple formats and languages. Using the
> > Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical communicators and
> > instructional designers can create powerful documentation, eLearning
> > courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text
> > and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player
> > compatible video and 3D.
> >
> > The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's
>
> > help system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
> > FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
> > 8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich
> > media formats -- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
> > MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe
> > Portable Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing
> > Architecture (DITA) -- empower authors to deliver compelling
> > information, save time and reduce discrepancies in content.
> >
> > "Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position
> > to deliver a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical
> > communicators and instructional designers," said Naresh Gupta, senior
> > vice president, Print and Classic Publishing at Adobe. "The Technical
> > Communication Suite provides all the tools publishers need to take
> > technical communication to the next level with dramatically improved
> > workflows and rich features like video, animations, 3D and Unicode
> > support."
> >
> > Inside the Technical Communication Suite
> >
> > Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling
> > technical communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging
> > content for embedded help systems and standalone knowledge bases. For
> > the first time, technical communicators can easily update their online
>
> > help systems with information authored in FrameMaker 8, without the
> > need to re-import files for each update. The new release also adds
> > Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.
> >
> > Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate
> > standard and advanced help features, including table of contents,
> > indexes, glossaries, graphics, sound, video, simulations and
> > navigation. Authors can generate multiple tables of content and apply
> > conditional tags, index items, folders, and tailor output for specific
>
> > purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF and FlashHelp(R).
> > RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing
> > easy copy and paste editing across topics. Additional new features
> > include an updated and customizable user interface, enhancements to
> > the HTML editor, and improved navigation and search features. For more
>
> > details please visit www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.
> >
> > Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and
> > publishing tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with
> > the power of XML. The new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and
> > Unicode. With the integration of Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors
> > can deliver high-impact information with quizzes, visual product
> > demonstrations and simulations - all without the need for multimedia
> > development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and more
> > secure way to 

Adobe Acrobat 8

[Shmuel Wolfson]

   Don't expect the bugs to be fixed until 8.x, where x is greater than
   0.
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

   Danny G Green wrote:

 In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text,
 and words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2.  Is anyone still
 having problems?
 Thanks
 Danny Green
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Adobe Acrobat 8

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Don't expect the bugs to be fixed until 8.x, where x is greater than 0.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



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> In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and 
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> problems?
>
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>
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[richard.melan...@us.tel.com]

 WOW !!! Outstanding. Way to go Adobe !

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+richard.melanson=us.tel.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+richard.melanson=us.tel@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
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Subject: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
Importance: High

( BW)(CA-ADOBE-SYSTEMS)(ADBE) Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

Integrated Toolkit for Technical Writers Includes Major Upgrade to RoboHelp

Business Editors/Technology Writers

SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 25, 2007--Adobe Systems 
Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe(R) Technical Communication 
Suite software, a first-of-a-kind, integrated solution for authoring, managing, 
and publishing technical information and training content across multiple 
formats and languages. Using the Adobe Technical Communication Suite, technical 
communicators and instructional designers can create powerful documentation, 
eLearning courses and user assistance programs containing both traditional text 
and graphics along with rich media, including Adobe Flash(R) Player compatible 
video and 3D.

The suite includes Adobe RoboHelp(R) 7, a major upgrade to Adobe's help 
system and knowledge base authoring tool, as well as Adobe
FrameMaker(R) 8, Adobe Captivate(R) 3 and Adobe Acrobat(R) 3D Version
8 software. Product and workflow integration and support for rich media formats 
-- including Adobe Flash Player compatible video, SWF,
MP3 and AVI files as well as industry standards, such as Adobe Portable 
Document Format (PDF), XML and Darwin Information Typing Architecture (DITA) -- 
empower authors to deliver compelling information, save time and reduce 
discrepancies in content.

"Adobe's leadership in the industry puts us in a unique position to deliver 
a completely new product, targeted squarely at technical communicators and 
instructional designers," said Naresh Gupta, senior vice president, Print and 
Classic Publishing at Adobe. "The Technical Communication Suite provides all 
the tools publishers need to take technical communication to the next level 
with dramatically improved workflows and rich features like video, animations, 
3D and Unicode support."

Inside the Technical Communication Suite

Introduced today, RoboHelp 7 delivers major new features enabling technical 
communicators to author, manage, and publish engaging content for embedded help 
systems and standalone knowledge bases. For the first time, technical 
communicators can easily update their online help systems with information 
authored in FrameMaker 8, without the need to re-import files for each update. 
The new release also adds Unicode support for publishing in multiple languages.

Automated wizards and topic templates allow users to incorporate standard 
and advanced help features, including table of contents, indexes, glossaries, 
graphics, sound, video, simulations and navigation. Authors can generate 
multiple tables of content and apply conditional tags, index items, folders, 
and tailor output for specific purposes and formats, such as HTML, Adobe PDF 
and FlashHelp(R).
RoboHelp 7 also supports a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) allowing easy copy 
and paste editing across topics. Additional new features include an updated and 
customizable user interface, enhancements to the HTML editor, and improved 
navigation and search features. For more details please visit 
www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.

Launched in July 2007, FrameMaker 8 is a complete authoring and publishing 
tool that combines the simplicity of word processing with the power of XML. The 
new version adds support for 3D, DITA, XML and Unicode. With the integration of 
Adobe Captivate 3 technical authors can deliver high-impact information with 
quizzes, visual product demonstrations and simulations - all without the need 
for multimedia development skills. Acrobat 3D version 8 delivers a complete and 
more secure way to collaborate with extended teams on 3D designs via Adobe PDF 
documents. Technical communicators can easily manipulate and incorporate 
interactive 3D models without having to purchase CAD software.

Pricing and Availability

Adobe Technical Communication Suite will be available for
Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) and Windows(R) XP and is expected to ship by the 
end of October 2007 at an estimated price of US$1,599.
Users can upgrade for an estimated price of US$999 if they have prior versions 
of Adobe Captivate, FrameMaker or RoboHelp. To learn more about the suite 
please visit www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite.

RoboHelp 7 and RoboHelp Server 7 will be available for Microsoft Windows 
Vista, Windows XP or Windows 2000 and are expected to ship by the end of 
October 2007 at an estimated price of US$999 for RoboHelp 7 and US$1,999 for 

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Richard Levine]

According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way .fm or .mif
file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.

---
Richard D. Levine

Technical Writer
Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
5 HaSollalim St., Tel Aviv, Israel 61093
Tel: 03-611-5358

Cell: 0545-994057
richardl at checkpoint.com
---



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+techsoft=netvision.net...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+techsoft=netvision.net.il at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:23 PM
To: richard.melanson at us.tel.com
Cc: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com; framers at 
frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a successful
marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short
time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work together.

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Kelly McDaniel]

Right, IMHO! Migration, not integration...Kelly. 

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[mailto:framers-bounces+kmcdaniel=pavtech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Richard Levine
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:42 AM
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egroups.com
Subject: RE: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way .fm or
.mif
file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.

---
Richard D. Levine

Technical Writer
Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
5 HaSollalim St., Tel Aviv, Israel 61093
Tel: 03-611-5358

Cell: 0545-994057
richardl at checkpoint.com
---



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On
Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:23 PM
To: richard.melanson at us.tel.com
Cc: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com; framers at 
frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

So just how tightly are FM and RH integrated? I can't recall a
successful
marriage of the two tools, historically. However, it's only been a short
time since the two were developed under the same roof, so to speak.

I'd be interested in learning more about how these two tools work
together.

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HATT List Owner
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Lin Surasky]

> According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way 
> .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not 
> integration in my book.
> 

Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which
imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't
single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM.
It's a repurposing solution.

On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky  wrote:
>
> > According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way
> > .fm or .mif file import. If this is true, it is not
> > integration in my book.
> >
>
> Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which
> imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then

-- 
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HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine:

> According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way .fm  
> or .mif
> file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.

No, it's more than that.

It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very  
much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your  
FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output,  
if you want so. But you can do local changes, if you like breaking  
your single-source workflow.

Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see  
FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of  
integration with RoboHelp.

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

--
___
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Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker
L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode
http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Yves Barbion]

Great! I think the Tech Com suite is definitely a move in the right 
direction. I would add Photoshop and Illustrator to that suite as well.

I'm wondering whether this can be done:

* Author and maintain DITA content in FrameMaker.
* Import the ditamap instead of the FM book file into the RoboHelp
  Project.
* Generate WebHelp or FlashHelp.

Of course, with all the DITA bells and whistles (conrefs, reltables, 
...) fully supported.

Kind regards

Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor





Michael M?ller-Hillebrand wrote:
> Am 25.09.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Richard Levine:
>
>> According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is one-way .fm or 
>> .mif
>> file import. If this is true, it is not integration in my book.
>
> No, it's more than that.
>
> It is a connection to the original FrameMaker book or document very 
> much like good ol' WebWorks Publisher provided it. If you change your 
> FrameMaker documents, this will be reflected in your RoboHelp output, 
> if you want so. But you can do local changes, if you like breaking 
> your single-source workflow.
>
> Check it out! Very much like I couldn't believe we would see 
> FrameMaker with Unicode I was surprised to see that level of 
> integration with RoboHelp.
>
> - Michael M?ller-Hillebrand
>
> -- 
> ___
> Michael M?ller-Hillebrand: Dokumentations-Technologien
> Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker
> L?sungen und Training, FrameScript, XML/XSL, Unicode
> http://cap-studio.de/ -- Tel. +49 (9131) 28747
>
>
>
> ___
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SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Jacob Schäffer]

As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will effectively be able to 
break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. apply local changes as need 
be for last minute corrections. However, when working disciplined as of the 
single-sourcing concept itself, I think the suite-concept provides more 
overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for a lower price.

Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be a really 
nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing to 
implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting (you 
call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution for all 
parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is still 
quite ideal in my view.

I can't do anything else than welcome the new Techical Suite concept although 
several improvements still can be made (fortunately)!

All the best
Jacob Sch?ffer
Grafikhuset ApS
Paradis All? 22
Raml?se
3200 Helsinge


> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com
> ] P? vegne af Bill Swallow
> Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22
> Til: Lin Surasky
> Cc: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com; 
> Frame2Acrobat at egroups.com
> Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite
> 
> 
> Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't 
> single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content 
> back to FM. It's a repurposing solution.
> 
> On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky  wrote:
> >
> > > According to Adobe's web site, RH 7  "integration" is 
> one-way .fm or 
> > > .mif file import. If this is true, it is not integration 
> in my book.
> > >
> >
> > Nor is it any sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which 
> > imported MIF files at least since X5, if not before then
> 
> -- 
> Bill Swallow
> HATT List Owner
> WWP-Users List Owner
> Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
> STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager 
> http://techcommdood.blogspot.com 
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Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes

[Tina Ricks]

Hi all,



I've sent the following Frame 8 bug to Adobe, but now I need to figure out
how to fix it in my documents. When I bring in Word text with the RTF import
(Copy > Paste Special > RTF), randomly, the close quote marks are reversed.
I can't duplicate this in email, but imagine the open quote looks just fine,
and what should be a close quote at the other end of the passage is actually
another open quote. This happens with both single and double quotes. So,
that includes apostrophes, because they are the equivalent of a single close
quote mark.



This is also random and inconsistent. Sometimes it works fine.



What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I
can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this,
Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this
search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote
marks I want to search for (opening or closing)?



Tina



tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net

Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes

[Stuart Rogers]

Tina Ricks wrote:
> 
> What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I
> can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this,
> Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this
> search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote
> marks I want to search for (opening or closing)?
> 

According to the Help topic "Typing in Dialog Boxes", a backslash 
followed by a grave accent will find double left quotes, ie, opening 
smart quotes.  Is that how you're searching?


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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  Others must fail."

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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Combs, Richard]

Bill Swallow wrote:

> Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't 
> single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content back to FM.
> It's a repurposing solution.


If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using
Acrobat Distiller and Webworks Publisher to create deliverables from
your FM files wouldn't qualify. 

As Michael noted, the integration or whatever you call it seems to make
it unnecessary (although still possible) to make changes in RH after
importing the FM source. If that's true, then you can single-source. 

Take a look at the FAQ
(http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/faq/),
especially these questions:

- "What does Technical Communication Suite offer technical communicators
and help authors that they don't already get with FrameMaker or
RoboHelp?"

- "Will RoboHelp 7 work with RoboHelp projects that have FrameMaker
source files added as links?"

- "Is there a difference between the standalone versions of RoboHelp 7,
FrameMaker 8, Acrobat 3D Version 8, and Captivate 3 and the software
versions included in Technical Communication Suite?"

- "What are the key benefits of Technical Communication Suite?"

Note that the suite versions of FM8 and RH7 have unique features to
"improve the workflow" that are not included in the standalone versions.
If you just sprang for the standalone version of either or both, you may
want to whine to your Adobe representative about some kind of
(inexpensive) migration path. :-)

Richard


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SV: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Sean Pollock]

As long as the RH output can be perfected from within Frame (probably best done 
in xml), it's fine. If you have to output to RH, then make any large changes in 
RH, and then output to a preferred format (HTML help, JavaHelp, etc.), there's 
really no advantage.Sean Pollock
Learning & Media DevelopmentSiemens PLM Software



> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:47:16 +0200> From: js at grafikhuset.dk> To: 
> framers at frameusers.com> CC: framers at omsys.com; Frame2Acrobat at 
> egroups.com; Lin.Surasky at retalix.com> Subject: SV: Adobe Unveils Technical 
> Communication Suite> > As I see it: With the new Adobe Suite-concept you will 
> effectively be able to break the single-sourcing concept if you want, i.e. 
> apply local changes as need be for last minute corrections. However, when 
> working disciplined as of the single-sourcing concept itself, I think the 
> suite-concept provides more overall-functionality than you've ever had -- for 
> a lower price.> > Round-tripping the RH content back to FM would certainly be 
> a really nice-to-have thing, but I wouldn't expect it to be a loss-less thing 
> to implement, and what would it be worth then? I still think that outputting 
> (you call it repurporsing) single sourced documents offer a win-win solution 
> for all parties. One source to maintain and outputting it to many sources is 
> still quite ideal in my view.> > I can't do anything else than welcome the 
> new Techical Suite concept although several improvements still can be made 
> (fortunately)!> > All the best> Jacob Sch?ffer> Grafikhuset ApS> Paradis All? 
> 22> Raml?se> 3200 Helsinge> > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse-> > Fra: 
> framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com > > 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com> > ] P? 
> vegne af Bill Swallow> > Sendt: 25. september 2007 19:22> > Til: Lin Surasky> 
> > Cc: framers at frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com; > > Frame2Acrobat at 
> egroups.com> > Emne: Re: Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite> > > > > 
> > Doesn't seem like much of an integration, and certainly isn't > > 
> single-sourcing given you can't round-trip the RH content > > back to FM. 
> It's a repurposing solution.> > > > On 9/25/07, Lin Surasky  retalix.com> wrote:> > >> > > > According to Adobe's web site, RH 7 
> "integration" is > > one-way .fm or > > > > .mif file import. If this is 
> true, it is not integration > > in my book.> > > >> > >> > > Nor is it any 
> sort of improvement on the pre-Adobe versions, which > > > imported MIF files 
> at least since X5, if not before then> > > > -- > > Bill Swallow> > HATT 
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Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Bill Swallow]

> If round-tripping were a prerequisite for single-sourcing, then using
> Acrobat Distiller and Webworks Publisher to create deliverables from
> your FM files wouldn't qualify.

On the surface this would appear to be true, however Distiller and WWP
are not authoring environments. The FM files remain unaltered in those
models. That is, the single source is used. FM+RH is still repurposing
content from FM into RH then out to whatever output you choose, and
unless I'm missing something, if you make changes in RH to your
content, you can't repurpose the content back to FM.

-- 
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

Adobe Unveils Technical Communication Suite

[Combs, Richard]

Bill Swallow wrote: 

> FM+RH is still repurposing content from FM 
> into RH then out to whatever output you choose, and unless 
> I'm missing something, if you make changes in RH to your 
> content, you can't repurpose the content back to FM.

That's true *if* you make changes in RH to your content -- but Adobe
seems to be saying (and Michael has confirmed) that you don't *need* to
make changes in RH (unlike in earlier versions). 

IOW, you can use RH as an output engine, not an authoring tool, if you
choose to do so. At least, that seems to be the promise. 

If the authoring in RH is _no_longer_necessary_ and you
_refrain_from_doing_it_ -- then, by golly, you're single sourcing.

Richard


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Resources

[Dunn, Hope M]

Hello All-
My company is looking for some Adobe Framemaker experts in the
Washington DC/ Northern Virginia area for some temporary/contract work.
We are coming upon our busy season and we are finding it difficult to
find people who know framemaker.  My company is called Ingenix and we
are located in the Reston, VA.  All help would be appreciated.  

Thanks so much-Hope

Hope M. Dunn 
Desktop Publishing Specialist 
Ingenix~1925 Isaac Newton Square~Suite 300 
Reston, VA 20190 
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FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

[Neeraj Jain]

I guess that this problem is solved now. BTW, i checked this issue in FM 7.1. 
When I did not open the paragraph designer, I was able to use the shortcut 
functionality.


Smile makes you more close; try it
Thanks and Regards, 
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Writer 
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- Original Message 
From: Yves Barbion 
To: Sarah O'Keefe 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 6:29:49 PM
Subject: Re: FM8 and shortcut key (F9+

Indeed Sarah,

same behavior in Windows XP, and with the Character Designer open too.



Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor




Sarah O'Keefe wrote:
> The shortcut appears to *not* work when the Paragraph Designer is open.
> On my machine at least (Vista), closing the Para Designer caused the
> "flashing F9" to stop.
>
> Sarah
>
> Yves Barbion wrote:
>   
>> Indeed, this is a bug, and I noticed it too a couple of days ago. I
>> pressed F9, but I just got to see the paratags in the lower-left corner
>> of my FrameMaker window for 2 seconds.
>>
>> Quit and restart FM8 and it works again (but I hope Adobe fixes this soon).
>> 
>
>
>
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