framers Digest, Vol 60, Issue 16
Alan, You're right that 'The page shown onscreen in Framemaker (and different to page layout programs like InDesign that include the pasteboard) is the physical page that is enclosed by crop/trim marks' - but you're assumption that nothing outside these page borders can be printed is not correct. When printing from FM with the option 'registration marks' activated (either Western or Japanese) the printing paper size should be larger than the document's page size. Otherwise the registration marks won't fit. Therefore it is also possible to put FM elements in that area, indeed for creating die-cut prints. Becky's approach is correct and will give the expected results. Printing to PDF directly will cut off the frame and show a bleeding tab. There have been more posts on this list about best practices for bleeding tabs, even tabs that 'walk' with your chapter numbering or display based on conditional settings. What these have in common is that the graphic container (table or frame) runs off the page. Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker tel. +31652036811 Skype wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
For what it's worth, I worked with the Solidworks free viewer, and it seemed pretty powerful, although not very intuitive. After playing around with it for a couple of hours, I was able to create narrow sections to isolate the views I wanted. From a single 3D Solidworks file, I was able to create front- and rear-view PDFs of different sizes (250 KB and 150 KB, respectively), so presumably some of the original elements were removed from the final vector files. On 2010-10-18 13:19, Alison Craig wrote: > Jo: > > According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about > what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* > work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your > SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. > > Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? > > If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few > seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some > doughnuts or muffins ;-)). > > In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has > been happy with the results. > > Alison > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf > > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) > that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks > eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we > need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the > illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would > have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In > our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector > only when absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5542 (20101018) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >
Re: Tip for testing S/W
On 16/10/2010 6:54 PM, Jay Maechtlen wrote: I usually use Alt-PrtScn and paste it in Word or the equivalent. That catches "active window", which is usually the dialog box. Reason being: I get the dialog box caption/title also, which is often ambiguous or otherwise needing of improvement. Yes, I also use that method when more info is needed. But there are times when all you need are the words in the error message, and the simplicity and speed of copy/paste is invaluable at those times. Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
See if there is an option in Corel to flatten the layers. I think Visio gives you this option. That might increase the rendering speed in the PDF. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Oct-10 11:27 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: > Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. > > We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) > that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks > eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we > need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' > - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. > > > I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the > illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would > have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In > our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. > > I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector > only when absolutely necessary. > > Cheers, > Jo > > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
RE: framers Digest, Vol 60, Issue 16
Alan, You're right that 'The page shown onscreen in Framemaker (and different to page layout programs like InDesign that include the pasteboard) is the physical page that is enclosed by crop/trim marks' - but you're assumption that nothing outside these page borders can be printed is not correct. When printing from FM with the option 'registration marks' activated (either Western or Japanese) the printing paper size should be larger than the document's page size. Otherwise the registration marks won't fit. Therefore it is also possible to put FM elements in that area, indeed for creating die-cut prints. Becky's approach is correct and will give the expected results. Printing to PDF directly will cut off the frame and show a bleeding tab. There have been more posts on this list about best practices for bleeding tabs, even tabs that 'walk' with your chapter numbering or display based on conditional settings. What these have in common is that the graphic container (table or frame) runs off the page. Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker tel. +31652036811 Skype wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @NLDITA i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu www.nldita.nl FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
For what it's worth, I worked with the Solidworks free viewer, and it seemed pretty powerful, although not very intuitive. After playing around with it for a couple of hours, I was able to create narrow sections to isolate the views I wanted. From a single 3D Solidworks file, I was able to create front- and rear-view PDFs of different sizes (250 KB and 150 KB, respectively), so presumably some of the original elements were removed from the final vector files. On 2010-10-18 13:19, Alison Craig wrote: Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jow...@magma.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5542 (20101018) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Tip for testing S/W
On 16/10/2010 6:54 PM, Jay Maechtlen wrote: > I usually use Alt-PrtScn > and paste it in Word or the equivalent. > > That catches "active window", which is usually the dialog box. > Reason being: I get the dialog box caption/title also, which is often > ambiguous or otherwise needing of improvement. > Yes, I also use that method when more info is needed. But there are times when all you need are the words in the error message, and the simplicity and speed of copy/paste is invaluable at those times. Best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
RE: Preparing to Subversion FrameMaker Files
I have been using SVN and Tortoise with FrameMaker for the last few years. It's "okay" but I am now making the switch to TFS and Visual Studio, because our development team is switching from SVN to TFS (and using Visual Studio for versioning). My biggest problem with SVN was actually creating new branches or folders and copying files in. For some reason, it never seemed to work, and SVN is not very intuitive or user-friendly (at least not to me). I'm actually finding Visual Studio a lot easier to learn and use. Then sometimes when you replace a file in SVN with a newer one, you get this strange red bar across the file after you commit it; not sure what that means. I'm also tired of dealing with strange phantom files that no longer exist on either my local machine or on the network server and yet, SVN keeps telling me that the file is missing. So even when you do things correctly, you'll get strange results. As far as seeing differences, according to the Frame online Help, it has a Compare Documents option (File>Utilities>Compare) Documents). Feel free to send specific questions as well. Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer F T I Technology lea.galan...@fticonsulting.com www.ftitechnology.com 206-689-4438 (o) 206-617-9717 (m) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Jo: According to my mechanical designer (Alex has been great - teaching me about what I can do via AI with his SolidWorks stuff) there is pretty much *zero* work involved for the engineers to Save As an AI file (or a DWG file if your SoildWorks is older than the 2009 version) when they Save As to an EASM file. Is there a company protocol that forbids saving as an AI or DWG? If not, I highly suggest you try to get the engineer to spend an extra few seconds getting you what the user/customer needs - maybe bribe him with some doughnuts or muffins ;-)). In the past, I've had to use non-vector SolidWorks images and *no one* has been happy with the results. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jo Watkiss Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 2:28 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
(FM 9) layout for die-cut side tabs with text?
On 18/10/2010, at 9:39 AM, Edmondson, Becky wrote: > HI Alan, > > I don't understand this--> "The page shown onscreen in Framemaker > (and different to page layout > programs like InDesign that include the pasteboard) is the physical > page that is enclosed by crop/trim marks. That means what you see on > the page is that area that is bounded by the excess that will be > chopped off when the page has been printed. Typically anything outside > the page boundary will not exist when the job is done." > > My document size is 7.25 x 9 and the tabs will only be on chapter > headers, so they will all be right-sided pages. When I PDF the file, > I set the page boundaries to 8.5 x 11 and turn on crop marks. What > I see in the PDF is the bleed exactly where it needs to be--0.2 > inches outside the trim mark on the right side of the involved pages. I have made some assumptions. That your book will have right and left pages, but I did mention that in my previous post, and that the tabbed pages will be within the FrameMaker files and that all the pages are tabbed (on that count I was wrong). So, you are saying that the printed page size will be 7.25" x 9" but that the tabs will only appear on selected pages (the first page of each chapter). Then you have two approaches (at least): 1. Have a separate file for the chapter first page and its reverse that has a different page size to the rest of the document. 2. Have all the pages the same size (8.5" x 11") but provide trim marks on the standard page masters that use the same spot colour as the trim parks that are provided by FrameMaker. In either case the first page of each chapter, unless is breaks the laws of nature, must have another side to it. Therefore you need to provide a page master for it because it will be different to all the other pages. It is left facing and it has a die-cut. > > Is there any reason this won't work? Hard to say. I can't see what you can. From what you have described all the pages will be cut to trim 8.5" x 11" but you said that the page size should be 7.25" x 9". HIH Alan -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
Preparing to Subversion FrameMaker Files
I have been using SVN and Tortoise with FrameMaker for the last few years. It's "okay" but I am now making the switch to TFS and Visual Studio, because our development team is switching from SVN to TFS (and using Visual Studio for versioning). My biggest problem with SVN was actually creating new branches or folders and copying files in. For some reason, it never seemed to work, and SVN is not very intuitive or user-friendly (at least not to me). I'm actually finding Visual Studio a lot easier to learn and use. Then sometimes when you replace a file in SVN with a newer one, you get this strange red bar across the file after you commit it; not sure what that means. I'm also tired of dealing with strange phantom files that no longer exist on either my local machine or on the network server and yet, SVN keeps telling me that the file is missing. So even when you do things correctly, you'll get strange results. As far as seeing differences, according to the Frame online Help, it has a Compare Documents option (File>Utilities>Compare) Documents). Feel free to send specific questions as well. Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer F T I Technology lea.galanter at fticonsulting.com www.ftitechnology.com 206-689-4438 (o) 206-617-9717 (m)
RE: On a deadline - dotted lines for table inside borders?
Sweet - thanks, Richard! _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.astoria-pacific.com ph: 800-536-3111 fax: 503-655-7367 l...@astoria-pacific.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸ ><º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><º> NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific International and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:22 PM > To: 'Linda G. Gallagher'; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: On a deadline - dotted lines for table inside borders? > > Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > > > I don't have that option in the Table Designer or in the custom dialog. > > In Custom Ruling and Shading, the Apply Ruling Style list doesn't contain an entry > called "Dotted"? > > OK, you can create one. > > 1) In the Custom Ruling and Shading dialog's Apply Ruling Style list, select None > and click Edit Ruling Style. > > 2) In the Edit Ruling Style dialog, enter "Dotted" (or any name you want) in the > Name box. > > 3) Set Pen Pattern to something less than 100% and click Set. > > 4) Select some table cells and, in the Edit Ruling Style dialog, apply "Dotted" (or > whatever you named it) to some borders. > > 5) Evaluate the results. > > If necessary, repeat using a different Pen Pattern setting (and maybe Width) > until you like the result. Or at least can live with it. :-) > > HTH, and Happy Weekend! > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as l...@astoria-pacific.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria- > pacific.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
On a deadline - dotted lines for table inside borders?
Sweet - thanks, Richard! _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.astoria-pacific.com ph: 800-536-3111 fax:? 503-655-7367 lea at astoria-pacific.com Please consider the environment before printing this email. `?.??.???`?.?.???`?...? >`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?> ? NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY ? This communication is from Astoria-Pacific International and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above.? If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited.? If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies.? Thank you for your cooperation. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:22 PM > To: 'Linda G. Gallagher'; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: On a deadline - dotted lines for table inside borders? > > Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > > > I don't have that option in the Table Designer or in the custom dialog. > > In Custom Ruling and Shading, the Apply Ruling Style list doesn't contain an entry > called "Dotted"? > > OK, you can create one. > > 1) In the Custom Ruling and Shading dialog's Apply Ruling Style list, select None > and click Edit Ruling Style. > > 2) In the Edit Ruling Style dialog, enter "Dotted" (or any name you want) in the > Name box. > > 3) Set Pen Pattern to something less than 100% and click Set. > > 4) Select some table cells and, in the Edit Ruling Style dialog, apply "Dotted" (or > whatever you named it) to some borders. > > 5) Evaluate the results. > > If necessary, repeat using a different Pen Pattern setting (and maybe Width) > until you like the result. Or at least can live with it. :-) > > HTH, and Happy Weekend! > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as lea at astoria-pacific.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria- > pacific.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
(FM 9) layout for die-cut side tabs with text?
Hi Becky, I am not certain how you are going to have this processed in pre-press but in my experience with pre-press operators is that they really hate it when they have to delete and rebuild crop marks on multi-page pdfs. Especially if they are reflecting left/right page layouts. The page shown onscreen in Framemaker (and different to page layout programs like InDesign that include the pasteboard) is the physical page that is enclosed by crop/trim marks. That means what you see on the page is that area that is bounded by the excess that will be chopped off when the page has been printed. Typically anything outside the page boundary will not exist when the job is done. If you are wanting to die-cut anything on a page you need to have that within the trim marks (on the physical page shown in FrameMaker) otherwise you are forcing the pre-press operator to create arbitrary trim marks for you. They may or may not be accurate because they were not created at the time that the document was and they will not have been created by the program that created the file was. That is why you received the earlier responses that you did. You need to consider creating a die-cut on your page master pages and put inside that the page elements you want on the finished printed page. The page dimensions would be the standard page size you are working with, say A4 (210mm x 297mm), plus the tab dimensions which would add an additional 15mm (at a guess). This would make your actual page size 225mm x 297mm. You would have two die-cut images that reflect each other for right and left pages, and of course however many die-cuts you have running down the page would necessitate additional image file pairs. If you are splitting this up into sections/chapters denoted by the die- cut tabs then each file would have a slightly different master page with a different die-cut image pair. The die-cut image files will have the same spot colour that is not used in the document. Do not use something like black, magenta, or cyan for it. The die-cut knife makers will need to be able to produce separations so they can program their machine that makes the knife (if it is automated) or produce accurate film output (if they are doing it by hand, which many do). HIH Alan On 17/10/2010, at 7:34 AM, Edmondson, Becky wrote: > OK, I figured this out. > > For those curious about what I'm doing: I am setting up pages for > die-cut tabs. The tabs extend beyond the trim lines of the page, > just like manila folder tabs. I need to get some text on those tabs, > which means I need to move a text box out there. > > Turns out you can position anything of any size off of the page, *as > long as one edge of its bounding box is on the page*. And Frame > makes it easy for you. Create an object (text box, filled object), > and press CTL-ALT to move it off the page. Frame will move it until > one edge is right at the page edge and no farther. > > Create a PDF with trim marks. You will see the object outside of the > page. > > The hard part is calculating how to position the text boxes. You > have to figure out the horizontal and vertical center of each tab, > then how big to make the text box to center it's middle on that point. > > Cheers, > Becky > > * All information contained in this email should be considered > confidential and proprietary. * > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
Re: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
See if there is an option in Corel to flatten the layers. I think Visio gives you this option. That might increase the rendering speed in the PDF. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Oct-10 11:27 AM, Jo Watkiss wrote: Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: off topic: e-drawings, eps files, frame and pdf
Thanks everybody for lots of advice and suggestions. We don't have access to Solidworks itself, only the 3D e-drawing (.easm) that is supplied by the project engineer. We use the Solidworks eDrawings Viewer to manipulate the model to get the illustration that we need. Unfortunately, if we want to export a vector, its 'all or nothing' - which is probably why the resulting image renders so slowly on screen. I agree that in a perfect world the engineer would create all the illustrations we need as 2D PDFs directly from Solidworks; or we would have another Solidworks licence so that we could do it ourselves. In our imperfect world, we have to make do with the eDrawing. I've concluded its best to use a bitmap wherever possible, and a vector only when absolutely necessary. Cheers, Jo ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
