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FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

2011-04-07 Thread Art Campbell

Jill, It's really hard to trouble shoot from a distance without full
system info.

But if you're on XP, the first step would be to download the MS Hotfix
for all PostScript printers, which fixes a number of problems
including some text dropouts

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909 (Gives details on the Hotfix)

http://support.microsoft.com/Hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=952909&kbln=en-us
(Direct Download Link)?




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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grunewald, Jill
 wrote:
> Clarification to previous posting.? Has anyone experienced a problem with
> bullets disappearing from a PDF?? They are all visible in FrameMaker, but
> disappear when the PDF is generated.? It does not occur with all users and
> only occurs with large documents.
> 
> From: Grunewald, Jill
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
> Subject: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF
>
> Has anyone experienced a problem with bullets appearing from a PDF?? We are
> not seeing the problem with all documents and it does not occur on every
> machine with FrameMaker installed.? We already verified that the Zapf
> Dingbats font is installed on the user's machine.? This problem is only
> occurring with bullets.? We are printing using the Adobe printer, generating
> the ps file and then creating the PDF using distiller.
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand

Shorter: http://bit.ly/frame25rocks

Am 07.04.2011 um 18:07 schrieb Art Campbell:

> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Art

FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks for the link(s)! Great article.

Bodvar

2011/4/7 Art Campbell 

> Interesting post at
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
>
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
>
> Cheers,
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
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Re: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

2011-04-07 Thread Art Campbell

Jill, It's really hard to trouble shoot from a distance without full
system info.

But if you're on XP, the first step would be to download the MS Hotfix
for all PostScript printers, which fixes a number of problems
including some text dropouts

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=952909 (Gives details on the Hotfix)

http://support.microsoft.com/Hotfix/KBHotfix.aspx?kbnum=952909&kbln=en-us
(Direct Download Link)”




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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grunewald, Jill
 wrote:
> Clarification to previous posting.  Has anyone experienced a problem with
> bullets disappearing from a PDF?  They are all visible in FrameMaker, but
> disappear when the PDF is generated.  It does not occur with all users and
> only occurs with large documents.
> 
> From: Grunewald, Jill
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
> Subject: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF
>
> Has anyone experienced a problem with bullets appearing from a PDF?  We are
> not seeing the problem with all documents and it does not occur on every
> machine with FrameMaker installed.  We already verified that the Zapf
> Dingbats font is installed on the user's machine.  This problem is only
> occurring with bullets.  We are printing using the Adobe printer, generating
> the ps file and then creating the PDF using distiller.
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RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Neeraj Jain wrote:

> I really enjoy working in Framemaker although things are much faster in 
> Microsoft Word. What i particularly like is its consistent behavior and Books 
> feature.

That "consistent" behavior, combined with far fewer problems when writing large 
documents (anything over 50 to 60 pages, frankly) is why I use FrameMaker for 
95% of my writing work.

Microsoft Word is only used for occasional  1 to 2 to 10 page internal 
documents that gets circulated to a few people inside the company. Particular 
if they plan to do some edits (and all they have is Word)! :)

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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Neeraj Jain wrote:

> I really enjoy working in Framemaker although things are much faster in 
> Microsoft Word. What i particularly like is its consistent behavior and Books 
> feature.

That "consistent" behavior, combined with far fewer problems when writing large 
documents (anything over 50 to 60 pages, frankly) is why I use FrameMaker for 
95% of my writing work.

Microsoft Word is only used for occasional  1 to 2 to 10 page internal 
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if they plan to do some edits (and all they have is Word)! :)

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Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Neeraj Jain

Yes, this is undoubtedly an excellent article. I began my Framemaker journey 
with 7.0 release, about five years back. Everyone around me used to say that 
Framemaker has got steep learning curve. I was kind of scared when I opened it 
for first time. I could only type and was not able to do any of the things that 
I regularly do in Microsoft Word. I remember cursing myself and Framemaker for 
its complex interface.
Later, I stumbled upon an excellent tutorial. This tutorial taught me 
everything. Now, I have FM 8.0 on my system. I really enjoy working in 
Framemaker although things are much faster in Microsoft Word. What i 
particularly like is its consistent behavior and Books feature.

_Man does not grow with age; he 
grows with experiences
Regards, 
NJ
http://www.neerajjain8.com
 

 

--- On Thu, 7/4/11, Böðvar Björgvinsson  wrote:

From: Böðvar Björgvinsson 
Subject: Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary
To: "Art Campbell" 
Cc: "FrameUsers List" , "STC Lone Writer SIG" 
, "tcs-users" , "Free 
Framers" 
Received: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 11:08 PM

Thanks for the link(s)! Great article.
Bodvar

2011/4/7 Art Campbell 

Interesting post at

http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044




(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)



Cheers,

Art



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RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Everette, Dimi

I learned Frame on a Unix system about that same time, Don, in North Carolina's 
Triangle area--and I learned it from the best editor I've ever come across. You 
might know her as Sarah O'Keefe. :)

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Heck! I feel like just a kid. We started with Frame 3 (I think) on the 
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Don.

On 4/7/2011 11:51 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> Very cool article!
>
> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved 
> it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs 
> folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it 
> was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.
>
> I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too 
> - a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into 
> that test phase.
>
> Memories 
>
> Thanks for sending this url along!
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> Z
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> -Original Message-
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> To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users; STC Lone Writer SIG
> Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary
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> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
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> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
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> Cheers,
> Art
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RE: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

2011-04-07 Thread Grunewald, Jill

Clarification to previous posting.  Has anyone experienced a problem with 
bullets disappearing from a PDF?  They are all visible in FrameMaker, but 
disappear when the PDF is generated.  It does not occur with all users and only 
occurs with large documents.

From: Grunewald, Jill
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:52 PM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

Has anyone experienced a problem with bullets appearing from a PDF?  We are not 
seeing the problem with all documents and it does not occur on every machine 
with FrameMaker installed.  We already verified that the Zapf Dingbats font is 
installed on the user's machine.  This problem is only occurring with bullets.  
We are printing using the Adobe printer, generating the ps file and then 
creating the PDF using distiller.

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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Neeraj Jain

Yes, this is?undoubtedly an excellent article. I began my Framemaker journey 
with 7.0 release, about five years back. Everyone around me?used to say that 
Framemaker has got steep learning curve. I was kind of scared when I opened it 
for first time. I could only type and was not able to do any of the things that 
I regularly do in Microsoft Word. I remember cursing myself and Framemaker for 
its complex interface.
Later, I stumbled?upon an excellent tutorial. This tutorial taught me 
everything. Now, I have FM 8.0 on my system. I really enjoy working in 
Framemaker although things are much faster in Microsoft Word. What i 
particularly like is its consistent behavior and Books feature.

_Man does not grow with age; he 
grows with experiences
Regards, 
NJ
http://www.neerajjain8.com
?

?

--- On Thu, 7/4/11, B??var Bj?rgvinsson  wrote:

From: B??var Bj?rgvinsson 
Subject: Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary
To: "Art Campbell" 
Cc: "FrameUsers List" , "STC Lone Writer SIG" 
, "tcs-users" , 
"Free Framers" 
Received: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 11:08 PM

Thanks for the link(s)! Great article.
Bodvar

2011/4/7 Art Campbell 

Interesting post at

http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044




(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)



Cheers,

Art



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Re: A simple numbering question

2011-04-07 Thread Roger Shuttleworth

Hi Andy

With respect, I don't think the "two problems" that you listed are problems at 
all if you use consistent chapter/section/topic structure. Predictable 
structure is a Good Thing anyway, and even without using structured Frame it it 
a good idea to have well-defined structures for different types of content - 
and stick to them.

You also describe a complex numbering series as "hard enough to debug." 
Debugging is a snap if you draw a matrix of your numbered formats (as rows) and 
placeholders (as columns). Keep this available (I used to pin mine to the wall, 
but haven't needed it in years) and the cause of any numbering problem becomes 
immediately obvious.

And as Richard said, there is nothing to stop you using different series for, 
say, tables and graphics, and managing those at the document numbering level.

I would much prefer something like this than having to choose between Numbered 
and NumberedFirst when writing a list. No big deal, obviously, but one less 
thing to think about.

Regards,

Roger

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From: Andy Kass [mailto:ak...@jaspersoft.com]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 14:08:49 -0400
Subject: Re: A simple numbering question

Thanks for everyone's input, though it mostly confirms the two problems I 
listed.

  I already have 4 levels of headings and Table, Figure, and Code Listing 
numbering in one series, so I don't really want to add 2 more levels everywhere 
(and duplicate the work in the appendix numbering series--but for that I 
should've used $chapnum). It was hard enough to debug, and with this, I'd have 
to add the autonumber series to most of my paragraph tags, not just the 
numbered ones.

  And I am reluctant to require some sort of intro paragraph, because I often 
use the heading as an intro (but not always) so that it shows up in the TOC. So 
that will give me sections like this:

 4.3.2.1 Copying a File

 To copy a file:

 1. Select the file ...

  In my situation, it seems like numbered list (and step) numbering will always 
be a 2-format deal (Numbered and NumberedFirst).

  Regards,

Andy

  - "Jay Mahler"  wrote:

  > Andy,
  > 
  > To answer your question, yes, you need to reset your list numbering in
  > every paragraph type that could come between numbered lists. This
  > generally isn't a large set of tags for the document formats I use. I
  > often have a Numbered-cont paragraph tag that I use when numbered
  > items may end up being more than one paragraph. This paragraph style
  > indents and doesn't clear any of the auto-numbers. 
  > 
  > Regarding your example of a figure anchor paragraph, I generally try
  > to avoid this technique. I know many Framers use a special anchor
  > paragraph to keep figure numbers/captions with the anchored frame, but
  > I prefer to put the anchor at the end of the paragraph that first
  > references the figure. To keep the figure number with the anchored
  > frame, I'll put a text frame inside of the graphic anchored frame at
  > the bottom and house the figure caption inside the graphic's anchored
  > frame. 
  > 
  > Frankly, all of my clients lately have had predefined templates that
  > use the Numbered-1, Numbered, etc., and Anchor paragraph techniques,
  > so I haven't practiced what I'm preaching here in several years.
  > 
  > Regarding your second point, the last time I did this, I used a fairly
  > complex auto-numbering series. For example, assume that I have a
  > document that requires a chapter numbers, Heading 1 numbers, and
  > Heading 2 numbers, Numbered list, Lettered (sub) lists, Figure
  > numbers, and Table numbers, the auto-number formats would be something
  > like this:
  > 
  > Chapter: N:< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
  > Heading 1: N:.< =0>< =0>< =0>
  > Heading  2: N:..< =0>< =0>
  > Body: N:< >< >< >< =0>< =0>
  > Numbered: N: < >< >< >< =0>
  > Lettered: N: < >< >< >< >
  > Figure: Figure -< >< >< >< > 
  > Table: Table -< >< >< >< >< >
  > 
  > This assumes that figure and table numbers have the -
  > format, and they reset to one for each new chapter. I don't remember
  > if I needed the empty < > for Figure and Table numbers on paragraph
  > tags that didn't reset or use those numbers.
  > 
  > I guess the bottom line is that this auto-numbering style is more
  > complex, but you only need to do it once. With the explicit set to one
  > numbering, you're always having to select one of two style for each
  > type of numbering. You also need to revisit the paragraph style if you
  > ever enter a new Numbered-1 above the old one.
  > 
  > Jay
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Andy Kass [mailto:ak...@jaspersoft.com] 
  > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:25 PM
  > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jay Mahler
  > Subject: RE: A simple numbering question
  > 
  > Hi,
  >

FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

2011-04-07 Thread Grunewald, Jill

Has anyone experienced a problem with bullets appearing from a PDF?  We are not 
seeing the problem with all documents and it does not occur on every machine 
with FrameMaker installed.  We already verified that the Zapf Dingbats font is 
installed on the user's machine.  This problem is only occurring with bullets.  
We are printing using the Adobe printer, generating the ps file and then 
creating the PDF using distiller.

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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Everette, Dimi

I learned Frame on a Unix system about that same time, Don, in North Carolina's 
Triangle area--and I learned it from the best editor I've ever come across. You 
might know her as Sarah O'Keefe. :)

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Don Rinderknecht
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Heck! I feel like just a kid. We started with Frame 3 (I think) on the 
PC in the early-mid 90s.

Don.

On 4/7/2011 11:51 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Very cool article!
>
> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved 
> it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs 
> folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it 
> was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.
>
> I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too 
> - a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into 
> that test phase.
>
> Memories 
>
> Thanks for sending this url along!
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users; STC Lone Writer SIG
> Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary
>
> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
>
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
>
> Cheers,
> Art
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RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Oh, yes, Interleaf was definitely a good product at the time.

For us, it was just:

(a) the cost was much higher ... as I recall, Interleaf did not have a 
floating license concept, only fixed per-system licenses,
(b) had more features than we really needed in our Engineering team 
(like way better color support as I recall - our team did not need color at 
all),
(c) it "took over" the SunOS system by running its *own* windowing 
platform - from the normal startup login, you started the Interleaf software, 
not Sunview!

So, if you ran Interleaf, you could not do anything else - no other window 
could be opened for a SunOS shell, etc.

Us engineers balked at those windowing limitations more than anything else. We 
were doing other work ... and our documentation (specs, requirements, tool 
documentation, etc.) work was secondary. The server-based FrameMaker floating 
licenses, running in SunView, made far more sense for us.

This is *unlike* the Tech Pubs folks in marketing ... who were writing 
data-sheets, company collateral, ads, etc! :) Those folks used and preferred 
Interleaf at the time - for darn good reasons.

Z

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:26 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); FrameUsers List
Subject: RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and 
> loved it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what 
> the tech pubs folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost 
> and the fact that it was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I compared FM 1.x to Interleaf that same year (likewise on the Sun 3/50). I 
really liked it and thought it had great promise, but I advised my client to go 
with Interleaf (and worked on that for the next several years). FM had great 
promise, but was still a relatively young program lacking many key features. 

I didn't return to FM until 95 or 96 (v5.1, I believe), by which time it was 
far more mature. With a few interruptions when working for clients wedded to 
Word, I've been a happy FM user ever since. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Oh, yes, Interleaf was definitely a good product at the time.

For us, it was just:

(a) the cost was much higher ... as I recall, Interleaf did not have a 
floating license concept, only fixed per-system licenses,
(b) had more features than we really needed in our Engineering team 
(like way better color support as I recall - our team did not need color at 
all),
(c) it "took over" the SunOS system by running its *own* windowing 
platform - from the normal startup login, you started the Interleaf software, 
not Sunview!

So, if you ran Interleaf, you could not do anything else - no other window 
could be opened for a SunOS shell, etc.

Us engineers balked at those windowing limitations more than anything else. We 
were doing other work ... and our documentation (specs, requirements, tool 
documentation, etc.) work was secondary. The server-based FrameMaker floating 
licenses, running in SunView, made far more sense for us.

This is *unlike* the Tech Pubs folks in marketing ... who were writing 
data-sheets, company collateral, ads, etc! :) Those folks used and preferred 
Interleaf at the time - for darn good reasons.

Z

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:26 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); FrameUsers List
Subject: RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and 
> loved it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what 
> the tech pubs folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost 
> and the fact that it was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I compared FM 1.x to Interleaf that same year (likewise on the Sun 3/50). I 
really liked it and thought it had great promise, but I advised my client to go 
with Interleaf (and worked on that for the next several years). FM had great 
promise, but was still a relatively young program lacking many key features. 

I didn't return to FM until 95 or 96 (v5.1, I believe), by which time it was 
far more mature. With a few interruptions when working for clients wedded to 
Word, I've been a happy FM user ever since. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

2011-04-07 Thread Grunewald, Jill

Clarification to previous posting.  Has anyone experienced a problem with 
bullets disappearing from a PDF?  They are all visible in FrameMaker, but 
disappear when the PDF is generated.  It does not occur with all users and only 
occurs with large documents.

From: Grunewald, Jill
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:52 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: FrameMaker 8: Bullets Disappearing in PDF

Has anyone experienced a problem with bullets appearing from a PDF?  We are not 
seeing the problem with all documents and it does not occur on every machine 
with FrameMaker installed.  We already verified that the Zapf Dingbats font is 
installed on the user's machine.  This problem is only occurring with bullets.  
We are printing using the Adobe printer, generating the ps file and then 
creating the PDF using distiller.

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RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Combs, Richard

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved
> it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech
> pubs folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact
> that it was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I compared FM 1.x to Interleaf that same year (likewise on the Sun 3/50). I 
really liked it and thought it had great promise, but I advised my client to go 
with Interleaf (and worked on that for the next several years). FM had great 
promise, but was still a relatively young program lacking many key features. 

I didn't return to FM until 95 or 96 (v5.1, I believe), by which time it was 
far more mature. With a few interruptions when working for clients wedded to 
Word, I've been a happy FM user ever since. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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2011-04-07 Thread Combs, Richard

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved
> it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech
> pubs folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact
> that it was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I compared FM 1.x to Interleaf that same year (likewise on the Sun 3/50). I 
really liked it and thought it had great promise, but I advised my client to go 
with Interleaf (and worked on that for the next several years). FM had great 
promise, but was still a relatively young program lacking many key features. 

I didn't return to FM until 95 or 96 (v5.1, I believe), by which time it was 
far more mature. With a few interruptions when working for clients wedded to 
Word, I've been a happy FM user ever since. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Don Rinderknecht

Heck! I feel like just a kid. We started with Frame 3 (I think) on the 
PC in the early-mid 90s.

Don.

On 4/7/2011 11:51 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Very cool article!
>
> I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved 
> it! Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs 
> folks were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it 
> was a cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.
>
> I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too 
> - a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into 
> that test phase.
>
> Memories 
>
> Thanks for sending this url along!
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:08 AM
> To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users; STC Lone Writer SIG
> Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary
>
> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
>
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
>
> Cheers,
> Art
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Art Campbell

Interesting post at
http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044

(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Dr. Rick Smith

OK, so I had to dash off my own Happy Anniversary posting: 
http://cys.me/node/286

Rick.

Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Chris Despopoulos

Cool article, Max!  Love that SunView screenshot...  I remember that Reversi 
game fondly.

cud
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Chris Despopoulos

Cool article, Max!  Love that SunView screenshot...  I remember that Reversi 
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Freeware RoboHelp Merged CHM Project Tool

2011-04-07 Thread Chris Despopoulos

Hi All...  

Not necessarily FrameMaker, but obliquely related...

I just posted a little Java app that helps create  alias files and redirect 
files when making a merged CHM RoboHelp  project. If you have tried doing this, 
then you know what I mean.  It's  got a GUI, and it creates the content of the 
master ALI file and the  redirect.htm file automatically. You paste the content 
into your files,  and viola.  One good point about copying/pasting the 
content...  it never writes  to your file system, so it's pretty safe.  


You can find it at:
http://cudspan.net/plugins/

Near  the bottom of the page is a DOWNLOADS list.  Expand the Java Tools  
section, and then the RH_RedirectChecker section.  You can download it  from 
there, and I posted some light-weight  instructions.  I hope you find it useful!

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Freeware RoboHelp Merged CHM Project Tool

2011-04-07 Thread Chris Despopoulos

Hi All...  

Not necessarily FrameMaker, but obliquely related...

I just posted a little Java app that helps create  alias files and redirect 
files when making a merged CHM RoboHelp  project. If you have tried doing this, 
then you know what I mean.  It's  got a GUI, and it creates the content of the 
master ALI file and the  redirect.htm file automatically. You paste the content 
into your files,  and viola.  One good point about copying/pasting the 
content...  it never writes  to your file system, so it's pretty safe.  


You can find it at:
http://cudspan.net/plugins/

Near  the bottom of the page is a DOWNLOADS list.  Expand the Java Tools  
section, and then the RH_RedirectChecker section.  You can download it  from 
there, and I posted some light-weight  instructions.  I hope you find it useful!

cud
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Training and Tools for DITA

2011-04-07 Thread Joseph Lorenzini

Hi all,

I have a colleague who may want to make the jump into DITA. I am old school
with unstructured FrameMaker but I know there's plenty out there but I'd
like to get recommendations from you all. I am looking for FrameMaker
plugins for 1) converting unstructured framemaker 9 files into DITA  and 2)
that help with DITA authoring in general, though I believe FrameMaker's out
of the box capabilities are pretty decent. Also, are there some good DITA
tutorials out there? Cost is an issue for my colleague so closer to free
would be preferable :).

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks for the link(s)! Great article.

Bodvar

2011/4/7 Art Campbell 

> Interesting post at
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
>
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
>
> Cheers,
> Art
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Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Don Rinderknecht

Heck! I feel like just a kid. We started with Frame 3 (I think) on the 
PC in the early-mid 90s.


Don.

On 4/7/2011 11:51 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Very cool article!

I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved it! 
Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs folks 
were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it was a 
cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too - 
a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into that 
test phase.

Memories 

Thanks for sending this url along!

Z

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:08 AM
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Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Interesting post at
http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044

(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

Cheers,
Art

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Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Dr. Rick Smith

OK, so I had to dash off my own Happy Anniversary posting: 
http://cys.me/node/286

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Re: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand

Shorter: http://bit.ly/frame25rocks

Am 07.04.2011 um 18:07 schrieb Art Campbell:

> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Art

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RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Very cool article!

I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved it! 
Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs folks 
were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it was a 
cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too - 
a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into that 
test phase.

Memories  

Thanks for sending this url along!

Z

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:08 AM
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Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Interesting post at
http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044

(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

Cheers,
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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)

Very cool article!

I started using FrameMaker on a monochrome Sun 3/50 back in 1988 and loved it! 
Our engineering team chose it over Interleaf (which is what the tech pubs folks 
were using), because of the slightly lower cost and the fact that it was a 
cleaner fit with Sun's windowing software.

I also beta-tested the first Windows implementation and liked that a lot too - 
a friend of mine was in the QA group at Frame Technology and got me into that 
test phase.

Memories  

Thanks for sending this url along!

Z

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:08 AM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users; STC Lone Writer SIG
Subject: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

Interesting post at
http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044

(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

Cheers,
Art

RE: FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Combs, Richard

Art Campbell wrote:
 
> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&typ
> e=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011
> %2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-
> %25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-
> century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

That link takes you to: 

http://thecontentwrangler.com/2011/04/07/25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%E2%80%9Crocks%E2%80%9D-after-a-quarter-of-a-century/
 

Or you can just go to thecontentwrangler.com and scroll down a bit. 


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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Combs, Richard

Art Campbell wrote:

> Interesting post at
> http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&typ
> e=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011
> %2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-
> %25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-
> century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044
> 
> (Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

That link takes you to: 

http://thecontentwrangler.com/2011/04/07/25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%E2%80%9Crocks%E2%80%9D-after-a-quarter-of-a-century/
 

Or you can just go to thecontentwrangler.com and scroll down a bit. 


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FrameMaker's 25th Anniversary

2011-04-07 Thread Art Campbell

Interesting post at
http://www.linkedin.com/news?viewArticle=&articleID=464660044&gid=45138&type=news&item=464660044&articleURL=http%3A%2F%2Fthecontentwrangler.com%2F2011%2F04%2F07%2F25-years-of-framemaker-why-this-product-still-%25e2%2580%259crocks%25e2%2580%259d-after-a-quarter-of-a-century%2F&urlhash=H94J&goback=.gde_45138_news_464660044

(Yeah, I know it's a long URL... didn't have a shortener handy.)

Cheers,
Art

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Training and Tools for DITA

2011-04-07 Thread Joseph Lorenzini

Hi all,

I have a colleague who may want to make the jump into DITA. I am old school
with unstructured FrameMaker but I know there's plenty out there but I'd
like to get recommendations from you all. I am looking for FrameMaker
plugins for 1) converting unstructured framemaker 9 files into DITA  and 2)
that help with DITA authoring in general, though I believe FrameMaker's out
of the box capabilities are pretty decent. Also, are there some good DITA
tutorials out there? Cost is an issue for my colleague so closer to free
would be preferable :).

Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
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