FrameMaker 5 problems

2011-08-02 Thread Rob Shell

Dear Philip:
I would advise running the Windows XP virtual machine within Windows 7, not
just the compatibility mode. This is a download (free)
Moreover, I would use .tifs for referenced files. I am not sure whether jpgs
(so many new formats) will appear flawlessly in a Framemaker (so old).
Hope this helps. The Virtual machine is VERY stable. I use it every day. 
Rob
 
 
 
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warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Simon North
All the answers I have seen so far seem to relate to HARDWARE.
In a SOFTWARE context, I think it's much more common to
use something like the following (this is my wording, so no official):

Warning: an irrecoverable action (formatting a disk), permanent data
loss or other
action that may result in an irreversible change to the system (such
as deleting a user
account) or damage to the hardware

Caution: an action that may seriously affect system performance (memory usage),
make take an extremely long time (resulting in inability to use the
system), may
seriously affect the system integrity (like removing password control
or disabling a
firewall) or loss or changes as listed for a warning that are reversible.

Note: an action that may result in inconvenience or confusion or,
positively, actions
that may make usage easier.

Regards, Simon North
Technical Writer, Quintiq.


Linking Problem......solved

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
I think it was the "way" I used the marker

I've been using "message URL" to make the jump

Instead, on a "Hail Mary Pass", I used this:

openlink //jetblue.com/Docs/Manuals/jbdocs/MANUAL SUPPLEMENTS/Onboard Delay 
Escalation 
Policy (ODEP).pdf

notice how it now reads "openlink" to make the jump

.and it works!.what a lesson I learned today

Thank you to all who offered their assistance!  Much appreciated Fellow Framers!

On Tue 02/08/11 16:28 , Fred Ridder docudoc at hotmail.com sent:
> As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in
> FrameMaker dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes
> defined to allow you to type special characters (i.e., characters
> that you can't produce directly from the keyboard with only the Shift
> key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you refer to Appendix B of the
> FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents directory of your
> FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions in your
> hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
> D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
> M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came
> through as "sm" in your example
> F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
> j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters,
> as in your example
> The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to
> double it. But that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at
> the start of your pathname came through as doubled backslashes in the
> result--it should have come through as a single. To get doubled
> backslashes, you should theoretically have needed to type four in a
> row.
> -Fred Ridder
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
> > Subject: Linking Problem
> > From: ecidade at zoominternet.net
> > 
> > Good afternoon
> > 
> > I?ve been experiencing a tDEFANGED_Onload of trouble linking to
> documents in a server where the 
> > address contains backslashes ?? and NOT forward slashes ?/?
> > 
> > Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
> link?...FrameMaker does funny 
> > things to the link itself?.
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > message URL \jetblue.comDocsManualsjbdocsFlight Operations Training
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
> > message URL \jetblue.com?ocssmanualsjbdocs?light Operations
> Training Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > 
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a
> bug???
> > 
> > So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the
> link intact.
> > 
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the
> laundry list items I?ve been 
> > trying to cure.
> > 
> > Any assistance would be most appreciated?.
> > 
> > 
> > Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> > Manager Fleet Publications
> > JetBlue Airways
> > 118-29 Queens Boulevard
> > 5th Floor
> > Forest Hills, NY 11375
> > Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
> > 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
> > Fax: 718-709-2280
> > 
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> > 
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Frame 10 crashes and corruption

2011-08-02 Thread Art Campbell
Could you give more details on your environment? Could you give some
details on how much RAM, how much free space; are the FM files and
graphics local or on a server, etc   and what exactly do you mean
by "simple tasks"?

Are the files and books you're working with FM 10 files, or legacy
files that you rolled forward from earlier releases? If they did come
from earlier releases, did you MIF-wash the files in 10?

For the record, on Win 7 32 and 64 systems with 4-8 G RAM, I don't
remember the last time I had a 10 crash.

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On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:
> A couple of us here at work are experiencing repeated Frame 10 crashes and 
> file corruptions while doing *simple* tasks. It so bad that one writer is 
> considering saving all of her work back down to FM9 format and returning to 
> that.
>
> Are others having the same problem?
>
> We're on WinXP SP3 with FM10.0.1.402.
>
> And, on a related note, although I'm sure the developers considered it a 
> "feature" and not a "bug" that they introduced, I noticed that the sort order 
> for para styles has been messed with. ? ? ? ? Again. ? ? ? ? ? NOW FM10 is 
> sorting UPPERCASE letters prior to lowercase letters, whereas in FM9 it was 
> lowercase then uppercase.
>
> I and a few others fought this battle during the FM9 beta, and as a result 
> the SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On/Off parameter was added to the 
> maker.ini file so you could specify your preferred sort order (in FM8 and 
> older, symbols sorted before alpha/numeric - in FM9, they had them sorting 
> afterwards, unless you changed the parameter.)
>
> Might not be a big issue to some people, but when you have shortcuts for the 
> F8 and F9 keys built into your style names, it plays havoc with what styles 
> are applied as compared to what you expect to be applied.
>
> -C
>
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Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Fred Ridder

As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in FrameMaker 
dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes defined to allow you 
to type special characters (i.e., characters that you can't produce directly 
from the keyboard with only the Shift key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you 
refer to Appendix B of the FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents 
directory of your FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions 
in your hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
\D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
\M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came through as 
"sm" in your example
\F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
\j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters, as in your 
example

The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to double it. But 
that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at the start of your pathname 
came through as doubled backslashes in the result--it should have come through 
as a single. To get doubled backslashes, you should theoretically have needed 
to type four in a row.

-Fred Ridder



> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
> Subject: Linking Problem
> From: ecidade at zoominternet.net
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
> where the 
> address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward slashes ?/?
> 
> Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext 
> link?...FrameMaker does funny 
> things to the link itself?.
> 
> Example:
> 
> message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training 
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
> message URL \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training 
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> 
> I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???
> 
> So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.
> 
> This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the laundry list 
> items I?ve been 
> trying to cure.
> 
> Any assistance would be most appreciated?.
> 
> 
> Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> Manager Fleet Publications
> JetBlue Airways
> 118-29 Queens Boulevard
> 5th Floor
> Forest Hills, NY 11375
> Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
> 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
> Fax: 718-709-2280
> 
> To fly: Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com
> 
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Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
nah.that didn't work either..

On Tue 02/08/11 15:57 , Stuart Rogers srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com sent:
> My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or
> single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
> regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)
> 
> Sr
> 
> 
> On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> >
> > The backslash in the marker window (sometimes)
> escapes the character> following it. You need to use forward slashes
> instead.>
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at fra
> meexpert.com>
> > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [framers-bounces at 
> > lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
> F.> Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
> To:> 
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem>
> > Good afternoon
> >
> > I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble
> linking to documents in a> server where the address contains backslashes
> ?\? and NOT forward> slashes ?/?
> >
> > Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the
> hypertext> link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link
> itself?.>
> > Example:
> >
> > message URL
> \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations> Training Manual 
> (FOTM).pdf becomes 
the following
> when I click ?Edit> Hypertext Marker??.. message URL
> > \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light
> Operations Training Manual> (FOTM).pdf
> >
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing
> this?.or??is it a bug???>
> > So I?m trying to use any tool native to
> FrameMaker to keep the link> intact.
> >
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and
> it?s one of the> laundry list items I?ve been trying to
> cure.>
> > Any assistance would be most
> appreciated?.>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
> 
> 




Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Stuart Rogers
My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or 
single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)

Sr


On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi Eduardo,
>
> The backslash in the marker window (sometimes) escapes the character
> following it. You need to use forward slashes instead.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo F.
> Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM To:
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem
>
> Good afternoon
>
> I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a
> server where the address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward
> slashes ?/?
>
> Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
> link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link itself?.
>
> Example:
>
> message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations
> Training Manual (FOTM).pdf becomes the following when I click ?Edit
> Hypertext Marker??.. message URL
> \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training Manual
> (FOTM).pdf
>
> I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???
>
> So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link
> intact.
>
> This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the
> laundry list items I?ve been trying to cure.
>
> Any assistance would be most appreciated?.
>


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com


Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Eduardo,

The backslash in the marker window (sometimes) escapes the character following 
it. You need to use forward slashes instead.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Linking Problem

Good afternoon

I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward slashes ?/?

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself?.

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
message URL \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???

So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the laundry list 
items I?ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated?.


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com




Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
Good afternoon

I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward slashes ?/?

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself?.

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
message URL \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???

So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the laundry list 
items I?ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated?.


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com




Frame 10 crashes and corruption

2011-08-02 Thread Martinek, Carla
A couple of us here at work are experiencing repeated Frame 10 crashes and file 
corruptions while doing *simple* tasks. It so bad that one writer is 
considering saving all of her work back down to FM9 format and returning to 
that.

Are others having the same problem?

We're on WinXP SP3 with FM10.0.1.402.

And, on a related note, although I'm sure the developers considered it a 
"feature" and not a "bug" that they introduced, I noticed that the sort order 
for para styles has been messed with. Again.   NOW FM10 is 
sorting UPPERCASE letters prior to lowercase letters, whereas in FM9 it was 
lowercase then uppercase.

I and a few others fought this battle during the FM9 beta, and as a result the 
SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On/Off parameter was added to the maker.ini 
file so you could specify your preferred sort order (in FM8 and older, symbols 
sorted before alpha/numeric - in FM9, they had them sorting afterwards, unless 
you changed the parameter.)

Might not be a big issue to some people, but when you have shortcuts for the F8 
and F9 keys built into your style names, it plays havoc with what styles are 
applied as compared to what you expect to be applied.

-C


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Linking Problem......solved

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .
I think it was the "way" I used the marker

I've been using "message URL" to make the jump

Instead, on a "Hail Mary Pass", I used this:

openlink //jetblue.com/Docs/Manuals/jbdocs/MANUAL SUPPLEMENTS/Onboard Delay 
Escalation 
Policy (ODEP).pdf

notice how it now reads "openlink" to make the jump

.and it works!.what a lesson I learned today

Thank you to all who offered their assistance!  Much appreciated Fellow Framers!

On Tue 02/08/11 16:28 , Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com sent:
> As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in
> FrameMaker dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes
> defined to allow you to type special characters (i.e., characters
> that you can't produce directly from the keyboard with only the Shift
> key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you refer to Appendix B of the
> FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents directory of your
> FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions in your
> hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
> D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
> M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came
> through as "sm" in your example
> F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
> j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters,
> as in your example
> The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to
> double it. But that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at
> the start of your pathname came through as doubled backslashes in the
> result--it should have come through as a single. To get doubled
> backslashes, you should theoretically have needed to type four in a
> row.
> -Fred Ridder
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
> > Subject: Linking Problem
> > From: ecid...@zoominternet.net
> > 
> > Good afternoon
> > 
> > I’ve been experiencing a tDEFANGED_Onload of trouble linking to
> documents in a server where the 
> > address contains backslashes “” and NOT forward slashes “/”
> > 
> > Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
> link?...FrameMaker does funny 
> > things to the link itself….
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > message URL \jetblue.comDocsManualsjbdocsFlight Operations Training
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
> > message URL \jetblue.com‡ocssmanualsjbdocsƒlight Operations
> Training Manual (FOTM).pdf
> > 
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a
> bug???
> > 
> > So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the
> link intact.
> > 
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the
> laundry list items I’ve been 
> > trying to cure.
> > 
> > Any assistance would be most appreciated….
> > 
> > 
> > Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> > Manager Fleet Publications
> > JetBlue Airways
> > 118-29 Queens Boulevard
> > 5th Floor
> > Forest Hills, NY 11375
> > Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
> > 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
> > Fax: 718-709-2280
> > 
> > To fly: Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com
> > 
> > 
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Re: Frame 10 crashes and corruption

2011-08-02 Thread Art Campbell
Could you give more details on your environment? Could you give some
details on how much RAM, how much free space; are the FM files and
graphics local or on a server, etc   and what exactly do you mean
by "simple tasks"?

Are the files and books you're working with FM 10 files, or legacy
files that you rolled forward from earlier releases? If they did come
from earlier releases, did you MIF-wash the files in 10?

For the record, on Win 7 32 and 64 systems with 4-8 G RAM, I don't
remember the last time I had a 10 crash.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:
> A couple of us here at work are experiencing repeated Frame 10 crashes and 
> file corruptions while doing *simple* tasks. It so bad that one writer is 
> considering saving all of her work back down to FM9 format and returning to 
> that.
>
> Are others having the same problem?
>
> We're on WinXP SP3 with FM10.0.1.402.
>
> And, on a related note, although I'm sure the developers considered it a 
> "feature" and not a "bug" that they introduced, I noticed that the sort order 
> for para styles has been messed with.         Again.           NOW FM10 is 
> sorting UPPERCASE letters prior to lowercase letters, whereas in FM9 it was 
> lowercase then uppercase.
>
> I and a few others fought this battle during the FM9 beta, and as a result 
> the SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On/Off parameter was added to the 
> maker.ini file so you could specify your preferred sort order (in FM8 and 
> older, symbols sorted before alpha/numeric - in FM9, they had them sorting 
> afterwards, unless you changed the parameter.)
>
> Might not be a big issue to some people, but when you have shortcuts for the 
> F8 and F9 keys built into your style names, it plays havoc with what styles 
> are applied as compared to what you expect to be applied.
>
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RE: Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Fred Ridder

As others have noted, the backslash is a reserved character in FrameMaker 
dialog boxes. There is a whole series of backslash codes defined to allow you 
to type special characters (i.e., characters that you can't produce directly 
from the keyboard with only the Shift key as a modifier) in dialogs. If you 
refer to Appendix B of the FrameMaker User Guide (in PDF form in the Documents 
directory of your FrameMaker installation) you will see that the substitutions 
in your hypertext command mostly match the backslash codes:
\D (Shift+d) produces a double dagger, as in your example
\M (Shift+m) is supposed to produce an em-space--no idea why it came through as 
"sm" in your example
\F (Shift+f) produces a florin, as in your example
\j is not defined and therefore comes through as literal characters, as in your 
example
 
The trick to get FrameMaker to render a literal backslash is to double it. But 
that doesn't explain why the doubled backslashes at the start of your pathname 
came through as doubled backslashes in the result--it should have come through 
as a single. To get doubled backslashes, you should theoretically have needed 
to type four in a row.
 
-Fred Ridder

 

> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:41:49 -0400
> Subject: Linking Problem
> From: ecid...@zoominternet.net
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
> where the 
> address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”
> 
> Problem: whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext 
> link?...FrameMaker does funny 
> things to the link itself….
> 
> Example:
> 
> message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training 
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
> message URL \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training 
> Manual (FOTM).pdf
> 
> I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???
> 
> So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.
> 
> This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the laundry list 
> items I’ve been 
> trying to cure.
> 
> Any assistance would be most appreciated….
> 
> 
> Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
> Manager Fleet Publications
> JetBlue Airways
> 118-29 Queens Boulevard
> 5th Floor
> Forest Hills, NY 11375
> Phone: 718-709-2884 (Office)
> 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
> Fax: 718-709-2280
> 
> To fly: Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com
> 
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Re: Re: Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .
nah.that didn't work either..

On Tue 02/08/11 15:57 , Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com sent:
> My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or
> single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
> regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)
> 
> Sr
> 
> 
> On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> >
> > The backslash in the marker window (sometimes)
> escapes the character> following it. You need to use forward slashes
> instead.>
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick@fra
> meexpert.com>
> > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com> 
> > [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eduardo
> F.> Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
> To:> 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem>
> > Good afternoon
> >
> > I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble
> linking to documents in a> server where the address contains backslashes
> “\” and NOT forward> slashes “/”
> >
> > Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the
> hypertext> link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link
> itself….>
> > Example:
> >
> > message URL
> \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations> Training Manual 
> (FOTM).pdf becomes 
the following
> when I click “Edit> Hypertext Marker”….. message URL
> > \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight
> Operations Training Manual> (FOTM).pdf
> >
> > I think the use of the backslash is causing
> this….or……is it a bug???>
> > So I’m trying to use any tool native to
> FrameMaker to keep the link> intact.
> >
> > This has been bothering me for a long time and
> it’s one of the> laundry list items I’ve been trying to
> cure.>
> > Any assistance would be most
> appreciated….>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Frame 10 crashes and corruption

2011-08-02 Thread Martinek, Carla
A couple of us here at work are experiencing repeated Frame 10 crashes and file 
corruptions while doing *simple* tasks. It so bad that one writer is 
considering saving all of her work back down to FM9 format and returning to 
that.

Are others having the same problem?

We're on WinXP SP3 with FM10.0.1.402.

And, on a related note, although I'm sure the developers considered it a 
"feature" and not a "bug" that they introduced, I noticed that the sort order 
for para styles has been messed with. Again.   NOW FM10 is 
sorting UPPERCASE letters prior to lowercase letters, whereas in FM9 it was 
lowercase then uppercase.

I and a few others fought this battle during the FM9 beta, and as a result the 
SymbolSortingBeforeAlphaNumeric=On/Off parameter was added to the maker.ini 
file so you could specify your preferred sort order (in FM8 and older, symbols 
sorted before alpha/numeric - in FM9, they had them sorting afterwards, unless 
you changed the parameter.)

Might not be a big issue to some people, but when you have shortcuts for the F8 
and F9 keys built into your style names, it plays havoc with what styles are 
applied as compared to what you expect to be applied.

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Re: Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread David Spreadbury
If your are linking to locations on Windows-based systems, enclose the entire 
link in double-quotes if you have spaces anywhere in filenames or path. Windows 
truncates the string at the first space but accepts the complete string if 
enclosed in double quotes ("), for example:

"\\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual (FOTM).pdf"

should work.

If linking to a server from a Windows platform, backslashes are all that will 
work. A forward slash results in and error - "Invalid switch - "/".

--- On Tue, 8/2/11, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  wrote:

From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
Subject: Linking Problem
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 2:41 PM

Good afternoon

I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself….

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
message URL \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???

So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the laundry list 
items I’ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated….


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
            347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax:     718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com

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Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread David Spreadbury
If your are linking to locations on Windows-based systems, enclose the entire 
link in double-quotes if you have spaces anywhere in filenames or path. Windows 
truncates the string at the first space but accepts the complete string if 
enclosed in double quotes ("), for example:

"\\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual (FOTM).pdf"

should work.

If linking to a server from a Windows platform, backslashes are all that will 
work. A forward slash results in and error - "Invalid switch - "/".

--- On Tue, 8/2/11, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.  wrote:

From: Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. 
Subject: Linking Problem
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 2:41 PM

Good afternoon

I?ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes ?\? and NOT forward slashes ?/?

Problem:? whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself?.

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click ?Edit Hypertext Marker??..
message URL \\jetblue.com?ocs\smanuals\jbdocs?light Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this?.or??is it a bug???

So I?m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it?s one of the laundry list 
items I?ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated?.


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY? 11375
Phone:? 718-709-2884 (Office)
? ? ? ? ? ? 347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax:? ???718-709-2280

To fly:? Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com

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Any way to hide unconditional text?

2011-08-02 Thread Gay Alson
Hello again, Framers,



(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)



Does the following make sense?



Let's say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of
various books. Each TI file starts with this:



  system variable
  system variable
  Not a variable; a text description of the text inset
file.
  Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is
app-specific or global. 



This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (which is used
only here and nowhere else in any of the TI files). 

For reporting and versioning purposes, I want to copy and paste each
text inset file into a file called "TextInsets.fm". In this file, I want
to show ONLY text bearing the Metadata tag. However, although I can hide
all of the other condition tags, I can't hide unconditional text. (And I
don't want to have to tag unconditional text with a condition called
Unconditional, just to be able to hide it...!)

Am I overlooking something obvious, or a better way to accomplish this?



Thanks for any suggestions,

~~Gay





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Epicor Retail
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Fax: (514) 426-0824
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Re: Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Stuart Rogers
My reference from Shlomo Perets says to use either *two* backslashes or 
single forward slashes to indicate folders.  (And this applies 
regardless of which kind of slash your server uses.)


Sr


On 02/08/2011 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Eduardo,

The backslash in the marker window (sometimes) escapes the character
following it. You need to use forward slashes instead.

Rick

Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo F.
Cidade Sr. Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM To:
framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Linking Problem

Good afternoon

I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a
server where the address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward
slashes “/”

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext
link?...FrameMaker does funny things to the link itself….

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations
Training Manual (FOTM).pdf becomes the following when I click “Edit
Hypertext Marker”….. message URL
\\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training Manual
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???

So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link
intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the
laundry list items I’ve been trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated….




--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Eduardo,

The backslash in the marker window (sometimes) escapes the character following 
it. You need to use forward slashes instead.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eduardo F. Cidade Sr.
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Linking Problem

Good afternoon

I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself….

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
message URL \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???

So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the laundry list 
items I’ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated….


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com


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Linking Problem

2011-08-02 Thread Eduardo F . Cidade Sr .
Good afternoon

I’ve been experiencing a tonload of trouble linking to documents in a server 
where the 
address contains backslashes “\” and NOT forward slashes “/”

Problem:  whenever I write the syntax to go to the hypertext link?...FrameMaker 
does funny 
things to the link itself….

Example:

message URL \\jetblue.com\Docs\Manuals\jbdocs\Flight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf
becomes the following when I click “Edit Hypertext Marker”…..
message URL \\jetblue.com‡ocs\smanuals\jbdocsƒlight Operations Training Manual 
(FOTM).pdf

I think the use of the backslash is causing this….or……is it a bug???

So I’m trying to use any tool native to FrameMaker to keep the link intact.

This has been bothering me for a long time and it’s one of the laundry list 
items I’ve been 
trying to cure.

Any assistance would be most appreciated….


Eduardo F. Cidade, Sr.
Manager Fleet Publications
JetBlue Airways
118-29 Queens Boulevard
5th Floor
Forest Hills, NY  11375
Phone:  718-709-2884 (Office)
347-684-2782 (Work Cell)
Fax: 718-709-2280

To fly:  Call 1-800-JETBLUE or log on to jetblue.com


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warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:42 PM, hessiansx4  wrote:
> Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on use 
> notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product.

Can you share what sort of product it is?

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warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 31/07/2011 11:42 PM, hessiansx4 wrote:
> Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on
> use notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product. I asked
> why a warning was used instead of a caution and was told: that's the
> way we do it here. I've only used warnings when bodily harm could
> result from some action. How are those of y'all in the sw world doing
> it? ___


ANSI 2007 says:




  DANGER:  Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, will
result in death or serious injury. This signal word is to be limited
to the most extreme situations.

  WARNING: Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could
result in death or serious injury.

  CAUTION: Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could
result in minor or moderate injury. It may also be used without the
safety alert symbol as an alternative to "Notice".

  NOTICE: "NOTICE" is the preferred signal word to address practices
not related to personal injury. The safety alert symbol shall not be
used with this signal word. As an alternative to "NOTICE" the word
"CAUTION" without the safety alert symbol may be used to indicate a
message not related to personal injury.

HTH,

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RE: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Alison Craig
In the medical device industry (which is where I currently work), we use 
Warnings, Cautions and Notes in precisely the manner - and order - described 
below.

Only Warnings gets an icon (exclamation point inside a triangle).

Alison


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
Sent: August 1, 2011 5:18 AM
To: hessian...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com; mathieu jacquet
Subject: RE: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

The use of Warnings, Cautions, and Notes, specifically Warnings and Cautions, 
are used differently in different technologies.

Here are some links that may hep you to decide which use best fits your needs:

http://www.techcommunicators.com/dkmanual/chap5015.html
http://www.techcommunicators.com/emanuals/wrm/chap06/06-13_notes.htm
http://www.stc-soc.org/quill/2004-05/warnings.html
http://www.tpub.com/content/tentsshelters/TB-9-2320-360-13-P-2/TB-9-2320-360-13-P-20234.htm
http://www.techwr-l.com/archives/0403/techwhirl-0403-00541.html
http://goodtools.net/pages/SUNstyle/constr8.htm
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/op990/en/SM/SFF/GUID-EA258A9C-D5EA-43BE-9A44-E8B52A0E594F.html

And MIL-STD-38784C states:
WARNINGS : Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, 
practice, condition, statement, etc, which, if not strictly observed, could 
result in injury to, or death of, personnel or long term health hazards.

CAUTIONS: Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, practice, 
condition, statement, etc, which, if not strictly observed, could result in 
damage to, or destruction of, equipment or loss of mission effectiveness.

NOTE: Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, condition, or 
statement.

Another thing that most people don't adhere to is that WARNINGS should come 
before CAUTIONS, which should come before NOTES, when any two, or all three, 
may apply to the following paragraph or section.

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> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:42:37 -0700
> From: hessian...@yahoo.com
> Subject: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>
> Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on use 
> notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product. I asked why a 
> warning was used instead of a caution and was told: that's the way we do it 
> here. I've only used warnings when bodily harm could result from some action. 
> How are those of y'all in the sw world doing it?


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warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Alison Craig
In the medical device industry (which is where I currently work), we use 
Warnings, Cautions and Notes in precisely the manner - and order - described 
below.

Only Warnings gets an icon (exclamation point inside a triangle).

Alison


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
Sent: August 1, 2011 5:18 AM
To: hessiansx4 at yahoo.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com; mathieu jacquet
Subject: RE: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

The use of Warnings, Cautions, and Notes, specifically Warnings and Cautions, 
are used differently in different technologies.

Here are some links that may hep you to decide which use best fits your needs:

http://www.techcommunicators.com/dkmanual/chap5015.html
http://www.techcommunicators.com/emanuals/wrm/chap06/06-13_notes.htm
http://www.stc-soc.org/quill/2004-05/warnings.html
http://www.tpub.com/content/tentsshelters/TB-9-2320-360-13-P-2/TB-9-2320-360-13-P-20234.htm
http://www.techwr-l.com/archives/0403/techwhirl-0403-00541.html
http://goodtools.net/pages/SUNstyle/constr8.htm
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/op990/en/SM/SFF/GUID-EA258A9C-D5EA-43BE-9A44-E8B52A0E594F.html

And MIL-STD-38784C states:
WARNINGS : Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, 
practice, condition, statement, etc, which, if not strictly observed, could 
result in injury to, or death of, personnel or long term health hazards.

CAUTIONS: Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, practice, 
condition, statement, etc, which, if not strictly observed, could result in 
damage to, or destruction of, equipment or loss of mission effectiveness.

NOTE: Highlights an essential operating or maintenance procedure, condition, or 
statement.

Another thing that most people don't adhere to is that WARNINGS should come 
before CAUTIONS, which should come before NOTES, when any two, or all three, 
may apply to the following paragraph or section.

---
> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:42:37 -0700
> From: hessiansx4 at yahoo.com
> Subject: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on use 
> notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product. I asked why a 
> warning was used instead of a caution and was told: that's the way we do it 
> here. I've only used warnings when bodily harm could result from some action. 
> How are those of y'all in the sw world doing it?


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Internal Error 10014 when generating toc/index

2011-08-02 Thread Chittister, Robyn
Hello,

I'm using FrameMaker 10.0.1.402 on Windows 7. I have a very large book file - 
30 files that total over 1000 pages. Track changes is enabled. All conditional 
text is shown. All cross-references are resolved.

Sometimes, after generating the book, I will try to save it. I will then 
receive the error:
Internal Error 10014, 6377587, 6370465, 6383969. FrameMaker has detected a 
serious problem and must quit.
Please describe your recent actions and send this, along with the generated 
file, to fmerror at adobe.com<mailto:fmerror at adobe.com>.

Even if I then deleted the generated files, any time I would generate the book, 
and then try to save it, I would receive the error.

At first, it happened when I added the TOC. Then, I was able to add and 
generate the TOC, but when I tried to use our template, the book crashed. I 
finally got that to work. Then, I added an index, and the book crashed when I 
tried to save it. Then, I could add the index, but when I imported reference 
and master pages, then generated the book and tried to save it, the book 
crashed.

Today, I just opened the book, which had been fine last night, generated it, 
tried to save it, and the book crashed.

I tried all sorts of things this evening, and sometimes the book crashed, 
sometimes it didn't. I have a very long file that details what I tried.

I have it all working now, but I don't know why it works, and I don't know how 
long it will work. I saved to MIF, but a working book and non-working book are 
the same  number of pages and the same number of characters.

I've seen the Adobe support forum topic on this issue, and it doesn't apply 
here.

Has anyone encountered this problem? Does anyone have any ideas as to what 
could be happening?

Thank you!

~Robyn

Robyn Chittister
robyn.chittister at calchamber.com<mailto:robyn.chittister at calchamber.com>
Mobile: (925) 695-5710

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Re: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:42 PM, hessiansx4  wrote:
> Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on use 
> notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product.

Can you share what sort of product it is?

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Immovable objects

2011-08-02 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello All

FrameMaker 9.0 p255 on Windows Vista.

Has anyone else had problems with pods or other objects that just won't move? I 
was working yesterday in an unstructured document, with the Paragraph Designer 
and the Paragraph Catalog open. Neither of these was docked - that is, they 
were overlying the document, and I believe my document was maximized. Neither 
of the dialogs would move. Dragging the top bar had no effect. Frustrating.

Is this a FM9 bug, or a "feature"? Is there perhaps some secret combination of 
things that causes this (or more to the point, stops it)?

Regards,
Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330
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Re: warnings, cautions, notes in sw documentation

2011-08-02 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 31/07/2011 11:42 PM, hessiansx4 wrote:

Hello all! I've noticed that the legacy docs I'm currently working on
use notes and warnings (no cautions) for a software product. I asked
why a warning was used instead of a caution and was told: that's the
way we do it here. I've only used warnings when bodily harm could
result from some action. How are those of y'all in the sw world doing
it? ___



ANSI 2007 says:




 DANGER:  Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, will
result in death or serious injury. This signal word is to be limited
to the most extreme situations.

 WARNING: Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could
result in death or serious injury.

 CAUTION: Indicates a hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could
result in minor or moderate injury. It may also be used without the
safety alert symbol as an alternative to "Notice".

 NOTICE: "NOTICE" is the preferred signal word to address practices
not related to personal injury. The safety alert symbol shall not be
used with this signal word. As an alternative to "NOTICE" the word
"CAUTION" without the safety alert symbol may be used to indicate a
message not related to personal injury.

HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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