Re: [Frameworks] movie scenes

[Christian Bruno]

Jose Luis Guerin's "In The City of Silvia"


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Karen Holmes Saving the Proof



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"Vagabond"

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On 2020-05-21 10:28, Gene Youngblood wrote:


I got a lot of great responses the last time I did this, so here we go again:

I'm looking for scenes or sequences in which the protagonist is shown walking 
through the world. It could be a big city or a spectacular countryside. Could 
be a wayfarer on some kind of journey. Sometimes done with lap dissolves, 
sometimes just a series of shots. Anything approximatikng that will be 
appreciated and acknowledged.



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Re: [Frameworks] Original soundtrack recordings of Avant-Garde films

[Christian Bruno]

Johnny Greenwood's soundtrack to Bodysong:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/3630-bodysong/



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https://www.discogs.com/Albert-Ayler-Don-Cherry-John-Tchicai-Roswell-Rudd-Gary-Peacock-Sonny-Murray-New-York-Eye-And-Ear-Con/master/27970

New York Eye And Ear Control


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:26 PM Albert Alcoz 
mailto:albertal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

I'm researching soundtracks of Avant-Garde films that have been published on 
Vinyl, cassette or CD. It is not easy to find many cases because generally the 
soundtracks are not original.

Does anyone know other cases besides those mentioned here?

Asparagus (1979) Suzan Pitt. Music: Richard Teitelbaum
http://sanitymuffin.bigcartel.com/product/asparagus-original-soundtrack-recording

L'Ange (1980) Patrick Bokanoski. Music: Michèle Bokanowski
https://tracelabel.bandcamp.com/album/lange

Decasia (2002) Bill Morrison. Music: Michael Gordon
https://michaelgordonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/decasia

All the best,
Albert Alcoz

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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions on travelogue and/or road films by women filmmakers?

[Christian Bruno]

Hello Kornelia,

While it is not about travelogues per se, I think an excellent resource for 
your work is Scott MacDonald's book The Garden in the Machine, about how 
filmmakers (as wildly varied as Babette Mangolte and Spike Lee) express place 
and landscape in their work. It is a lively, bright and broad-reaching book, 
and may help in your research. Plus it is an absolute joy to read.

best
Christian bruno


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Elizabeth McMahon 
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filmmakers?

Ross McElwee's "travelogue" SHERMAN'S MARCH, certainly must be included.

Elizabeth McMahon

On Saturday, October 19, 2019, Scott MacDonald 
mailto:smacd...@hamilton.edu>> wrote:
Hey Kornelia,

Nina Davenport's Parallel Lines (2004)
Véréna Paravel 7 Queens (2008)
Ellen Spiro Greetings from Out Here (1993) and Roam Sweet Home (1997)

Scott

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:58 PM Kornelia Boczkowska 
mailto:kornelia.boczkow...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for travelogue and/or road films made by women filmmakers in 
connection with my postdoctoral project on avant-garde and experimental film 
(no UMO-2018/31/D/HS2/01553).

So far I've been able to track down several works, incl. those mentioned in 
response to Bryan Konefsky's question on experimental road movies, but I'm sure 
there are many more that I'm not aware of. Any thoughts? I'd be grateful for 
any suggestions, also on films that embrace non-mechanical means of 
transportation and revision the concept of mobility - as implied by the broad 
definition of the aforementioned genres. I'm pasting some exemplary titles 
below to give you an idea what I'm looking for.

Thanks and all best,

Kornelia



Portland (1996) by Greta Snider

You and I Remain (2015) by Kate McCabe

On The Line (2010) by Cathy Lee Crane

Cayuga Run (1967) and September Express (1973) by Storm De Hirsch

Light Years (1987) by Gunvor Nelson

Roundtrip (2013) by Caroline Blai

The Spaces Between Cities (2015) by Salise Hughes

Flower Fields (1974) and Secrets from the Street: No Disclosure (1980) by 
Martha Rosler

Rules of the Road (1993) by Su Friedrich

There? Where? (1979) by Babette Mangolte

--
Kornelia Boczkowska, Ph.D.
Department of Studies in Culture
Faculty of English
Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznań
http://wa.amu.edu.pl/wa/boczkowska_kornelia
https://orcid.org/-0003-0875-9209

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Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies

[Christian Bruno]

I feel like Bruce Conner's White Rose has so many of the right elements of an 
elegy.


best

Christian



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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Seeking examples of film elegies

Perhaps Necrology by Standish Lawder.  Does it work as elegy, for you to decide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dadi7mw5gCs
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.LFJAvlFUqDkfYu6ZsrSL1gEsDh&pid=Api]

Necrology (Standish Lawder, 1970)
www.youtube.com
Necrology (Standish Lawder, 1970)


When we had a memorial screening for Brakhage, we included
Passage Through: A Ritual  (1990, 16mm, color/ sound, 50min)

And also Brakhage’s Panels for the Walls of Heaven is really lovely (2002, 
color, silent, 31 min.) Print courtesy of the Academy Film Archive.

And Kitch’s Last Meal, by Carolee Schneemann, (1976, 55 min.), perhaps.  Hard 
to know what will work as consolation.

Best regards,

Adam Hyman

From:  FrameWorks 
mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
 on behalf of Katherine T Model mailto:ktm2...@nyu.edu>>

Threnody—Nathaniel Dorsky
The Dragon is the Frame—Mary Helena Clark

Best,
Katie Model

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 1:40 PM Gene Youngblood 
mailto:ato...@comcast.net>> wrote:


Alexander Sokurov’s trilogy, Elegy of a Voyage, Elegy of the Land and Moscow 
Elegy (lovely portrait of Kozintsev’s apartment).

On August 28, 2018 at 9:05:14 AM, Sarah Bliss 
(bl...@sarahblissart.com) wrote:


Greetings Frameworkers,

I write from AgX in Boston, where we are making our way, in grief and with 
love, since the death of our beloved Rob
Todd.  At AgX, we sometimes hold a salon for members. The theme of our next 
will be elegies.  What filmic examples of
elegies do you know?

The Poetry Foundation defines an elegy as: "In traditional English poetry, it 
is often a melancholy poem that laments its subject’s death but ends in 
consolation."

Thanks,

Sarah Bliss
http://www.SarahBlissArt.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries within/with a group subject and participatory filmmaker(s)

[Christian Bruno]

I'm guessing William Greaves' Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, Take One would be an 
excellent example.


best

Christian



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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Documentaries within/with a group subject and 
participatory filmmaker(s)

Peter Watkins: Punishment Park (1970) and really most all of Watkins' work.

Scott

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Sonya Mladenova 
mailto:sonya.mladen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Looking for documentary films shot with/within a group of people engaged in an 
activity or some kind of project, independently or in an organized environment, 
in which the filmmaker is a visible and/or an active participatory presence. 
I'm especially interested in films from the last 25-30 years. I'm investigating 
the relationship between the filmed person(s) and the person(s) filming, 
whatever the configuration.

Somes examples, but not limited in scope:
Starless Dreams by Mehrdad Oskouei
À ciel ouvert by Mariana Otero
La moindre des choses by Nicolas Philibert

Many many thanks,

Sonya




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Re: [Frameworks] old LA movie theater

[Christian Bruno]

Hello Gene


I haven't been in LA that long, but maybe it was the Vagabond?

http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/1170

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-11-28/entertainment/ca-9291_1_vagabond-theatre


Up until recently, it was called the Hayworth as a live theatre, now it's a 
comedy club. But in the 1970s, Tommy Cooper ran a rep/revival program as the 
Vagabond.


It's a guess, but could it be?


best

Christian



From: FrameWorks  on behalf of Gene 
Youngblood 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 10:53 AM
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Subject: [Frameworks] old LA movie theater

Older Frameworkers in Los Angeles, does anyone remember the name of a small 
movie theater on Wilshire Boulevard near downtown that, in the 1960s, had a 
mural of the Odessa Steps sequence from Potemkin?


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Re: [Frameworks] Jack Stauffacher

[Christian Bruno]

It really feels like the end of an era, that North Beach moment of poets, 
filmmakers, writers, painters.

Thanks for sharing, Dominic.

Best
Christian Bruno


On Nov 17, 2017, at 7:09 PM, David Sherman 
mailto:davidgatessher...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So sorry to here that Dominic. Truly the end of an era. All of the print work 
Jack did over his lifetime was so influential. I was privileged that you kept 
that North Beach scene connected and that you introduced me to him.
Best, David

David Sherman
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On Nov 17, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Dominic Angerame 
mailto:dominic.anger...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Noted San Francisco printer, Jack Stauffacher passed away at the age of 97 at 
his home in Tiburon, California. Jack was well known amongst the art and 
experimental cinema scene in San Francisco since the 1940s.

His brother Frank Stauffacher started the film experimental cinematheque series 
"Art in Cinema" in 1947 at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.


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Re: [Frameworks] Christopher MacLaine

[Christian Bruno]

Hello Gene,


Along with talking to Lawrence Jordan, he should also talk to Brecht Andersch: 
he was the person who conducted the interview with Brakhage in Radical Light 
discussing Maclaine.


Brecht---along with Brian Darr---conducted a massive, multipart examination of  
Maclaine's The End for the SFMOMA's blog Open Space. 
(https://openspace.sfmoma.org/2010/09/in-search-of-christopher-maclaine-the-end-tour-1/).
 It is a totally enjoyable, exhaustive autopsy of the film as they try and 
identify the locations throughout the Bay Area, and the folks who were in it, 
triangulating fragments of data, and providing tons of fascinating historical 
context.


I know that Brecht has spoken extensively with many people who knew Maclaine 
personally, including about his poetry. Your friend should most definitely 
reach out to him.


I can provide his email address off list.


best

Christian Bruno



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Youngblood 
Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 1:40 PM
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Thanks Andy. I’ve passed these on.
G.











On July 5, 2017 at 8:38:48 AM, Andy Ditzler 
(a...@andyditzler.com<mailto:a...@andyditzler.com>) wrote:

Gene, has your friend tried contacting Lawrence Jordan? I believe Jordan knew 
Maclaine and worked with him on The Man Who Invented Gold (but I could be 
wrong). J.J. Murphy and Fred Camper have done the most extensive writing I know 
on Maclaine; perhaps they have some leads. There's a transcription of a 
conversation with Brakhage about his time with Maclaine, published in Radical 
Light.

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org<http://www.filmlove.org/>
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org<http://www.johnq.org/>


On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Gene Youngblood 
mailto:ato...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Frameworkers, a friend of mine is researching the literary life of Christopher 
MacLaine. He sent this yesterday:

"You may know that [MacLaine] was also a poet and editor. (Jordan Belson was 
the art editor for the first issue of Contour Quarterly, the magazine that 
MacLaine and his wife Norma edited, which ran for four issues in the late 
forties.) I've been very interested in that side of his work, which has 
completely vanished from any public view or awareness, and I've been working 
for a few years on assembling the writings, and trying to learn more about the 
context. Have had a very hard time finding anyone still alive to talk to who 
knew him, or much on record about his life. Any suggestions you might have in 
that regard would be very welcome.

Any leads on this? Steve? Scott?

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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films on Farming/ Agriculture

[Christian Bruno]

Bill Basquin has a stunning trilogy of experimental docs shot on super8, 
meditations of sorts on masculinity and the agrarian world. Notably Martin, 
which focuses on a New Zealand sheepherder.

best
Christian

From: gencar...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:04:59 -0500
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films on Farming/ Agriculture

Dominique Benichetti's Cousin Jules (1972)

Also see films by Gu Tao (The Last Moose of Aoluguya) and Yu Guangyi (The Last 
Lumberjacks)

These might not be avant-garde, depending on your definition, but these are 
what first came to mind. 

DER's catalogue is a great resource! 

Best, 
Gen
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:49 PM, lagonaboba  wrote:
Taylor Dunne,  Corn Mother  (on vimeo)
Monteith McCollum’s work might be of interest (samples on Vimeo)
one of Andrew Noren’s lesser known films (I don’t know if he ever formally 
declared it to be a finished film, or part of a larger film) involved typically 
Noren-esque light bathed texture and color, of opium poppy fields in 
Afghanistan or Pakistan, men harvesting oozing latex.  Seen in 1971? at the old 
Mercer St. Kitchen. Noren’s footage of Panda bears in heat in the same show, 
though I guess that’s not agriculture.

If Sweetgrass is to be considered “avant-garde/experimental” there are many 
works.Check with DER, under Agriculture; certainly not all, but a few titles 
are film-form smart.http://www.der.org/films/index-by-subject.html#agriLike 
Hillary Harris’ THE NUER.






On Jan 14, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Heath Iverson  wrote:
Any suggestions on avant-garde/experimental films that deal with any aspects of 
farming/gardening/plant or animal agriculture?

A few examples might be Marjorie Keller's Answering Furrow or Lucien 
Castaing-Taylor's Sweetgrass. Other ideas? 

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Re: [Frameworks] Print Search

[Christian Bruno]

Hey Stephen,

I once contacted Micheal Wiese about 2 years ago, also in search of Messages, 
Messages. He directed me to the Steven Arnold Archive 
(http://stevenarnoldarchive.com/), no doubt you already tried that.

I can't remember how I found him, but likely it was through his book 
company---Michael Wiese Books (of Save The Cat fame). His email address is 
somewhere on his site (http://www.mwp.com/), so take a look. He said he didn't 
have prints, but it is worth an ask.

Christian

> From: i...@oddballfilm.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:34:22 -0700
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Print Search
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Re: [Frameworks] James Bidgood, Pink Narcissus

[Christian Bruno]

Ara, Bruce Benderson assembled a pretty amazing book of Joe Bidgood's work, 
centered chiefly around Pink Narcissus. It is a fabulous read, both about his 
life and about his film and photo techniques. Extremely lavish, it is very much 
a Taschen coffee table book, but it can often be found on remainders tables at 
bookstores. I found it inspiring in some of my own 
filmmaking.http://www.amazon.com/Bidgood-Taschens-Anniversary-Special-Edition/dp/3836514524

Also, there was a made-for German TV doc about him, The Queer Reveries of James 
Bidgood, but I don't know anyone who's seen it.
My understanding is that Mr Bidgood is still around, presumably Manhattan. Hmm, 
maybe the phone book? Always worth a look. You could probably get in touch with 
Benderson through Taschen. Strand Releasing for some time has distributed Pink 
Narcissus, maybe contact them.
bestChristian


Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 14:37:21 -0500
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CC: matthew.macken...@mail.mcgill.ca
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] James Bidgood, Pink Narcissus

such a great film!


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ara Osterweil  wrote:




Does anyone know any material about the production of Pink Narcissus or its 
director James Bidgood? Are there articles that anyone knows about? Also, does 
anyone have contact information for Bidgood?
Thanks so much.Ara Osterweil  

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Re: [Frameworks] SD film transfer

[Christian Bruno]

Hello Charles,
I'd recommend Video Transfer Center in SF (http://vtc-sf.com/). They have been 
doing some amazing work with small gauge lately, and can output files, 
including Prores. I just got some Regular 8 back from them recently, and it is 
pretty tremendous. And affordable! They have some fancy scanners and tons of 
know-how and a dedication to small gauge formats.
Christian




Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 12:00:22 -0700
From: infiltration...@gmail.com
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Subject: [Frameworks] SD film transfer

Hey, can anyone recommend a good and cost-effective SD film transfer? For 
super8? Looking for suggestions...thanks. The end product would ideally be 4:3 
aspect ratio, either to a file or tape.

-charles


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[Frameworks] Fwd: Ernest Callenbach's last words to an America in decline

[Christian Bruno]

Scott brings up one of the things that has been missing from Chick's 
obituaries---his role as an early instigator of Canyon Cinema. Both in 
exhibition (Bruce Baillie approached Chick about trying to screen films in 
Berkeley, outside the shadows of Canyon CA), and in making---Chick's basement 
became an ad hoc editing facility where films like To Parsifal were completed. 
I guess when you have such a varied career, not everything makes it into the 
final narrative.
I had the pleasure of interviewing Chick on two occasions for a film I've been 
making, and was continually struck by his warmth and generosity. Even in the 
limited time I spent with him, he was, exactly as Scott says, unpretentious. 
And, best of all, the guy had a great memory! What surprised me most about his 
passing was discovering how old he was. He spoke and acted like someone twenty 
years younger. 
I wanted to share a clip from one of my interviews with him, a great little 
story about the CIA and Canyon. He always seemed to sparkle, especially when 
talking about those anarchic Canyon days. And it makes me sad he won't get to 
see the final film.
https://vimeo.com/41729690

BestChristian


From: sc...@financialcleansing.com
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 13:43:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Ernest Callenbach's last words to an America in 
decline

Chick Callenbach was a wonderful editor, always a pleasure to work with, 
unpretentiously and engagingly intelligent. He was a crucial contributor to the 
development of Canyon Cinema, and he built FILM QUARTERLY into one of the 
premiere publications in the world of cinema studies. He was more widely known 
for his utopian writing, and ECOTOPIA in particular, but his influence on film 
history has been crucial. 
RIP, dear Chick.Scott





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Subject: [Frameworks] Fwd: Ernest Callenbach's last words to an America

in decline

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Date: Mon, May 07, 2012 11:10 am

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I received this from a friend.  Many frameworkers will mourn his passing.  Film 
Quarterly was one of the best journals under his leaderhship.

-- 

For most of those on this list, Ernest "Chick" Callenbach's classic novel, 
ECOTOPIA needs no introduction. I'd known Callenbach since the 1960s through 
his magazine, Film Quarterly, and also as an acquantance in the Bay Area, where 
we ran into each other every so often for many years. I admired him and his 
work greatly, and have long been convinced that ECOTOPIA will find a second 
life as a blueprint for thought and action as we heave into increasingly 
uncertain times.

It was only when Lou Judson sent me this article today that I learned that, 
sadly, "Chick" had passed away on April 16th. You can read his powerful, final 
essay, "Epistle to the Ecotopians," on Tom Englehardt's excellent TomDispatch 
website:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175538/tomgram%3A_ernest_callenbach%2C_last_words_to_an_america_in_decline/#more

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[Frameworks] digital Bolex

[Christian Bruno]

Someone just sent this to me, and I was curious if anyone has seen it too.The 
Digital 
Bolex.www.kickstarter.com/projects/joedp/the-digital-bolex-the-1st-affordable-digital-cinem?ref=card
 

and if anyone has some thoughts on it.
bestChristian

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[Frameworks] Congrats Penny Lane and Brian Frye

[Christian Bruno]

I was excited to see our colleagues Brian Frye and Penny Lane among the winners 
of this year's Cinereach grant. 
Congratulations are in full 
order!www.indiewire.com/article/cinereach_grants_35_to_deserving_doc_narrative_and_hybrid_projects/#
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