[Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Tess Takahashi]

I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.

What am I missing? Old and New?

Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Tess Takahashi]

oh, and Su Friedrich's Gently Down the Stream

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi 
wrote:

> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Scott MacDonald]

*Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.*


*Robert Huot's SCRATCH*


*Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED*


*Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS*

*I'll keep thinkin'*

*Scott*

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi 
wrote:

> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Beebe, Roger W.]

Sharits' S:TREAM:S:S:ECTION:S:ECTION:S:S:ECTIONED.  And 8 billion other films.  
(This is going to end up being a LONG list.)


On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald  wrote:

> Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.
> 
> Robert Huot's SCRATCH
> 
> Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED
> 
> Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS
> 
> I'll keep thinkin'
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi  
> wrote:
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[marilyn brakhage]

Some other Brakhage films that employ scratching:  earliest example  
(briefly) is in "Reflections On Black" (1955); later, more  
substantially, in  "He was born, he suffered, he died" (1974); and  
later yet, several films with words scratched over image, "I . . .  
Dreaming" (1988), "For Marilyn" (1992) and "Night Mulch and  
Very" (2001).  And  there was the Ellipses series of so-called  
"scratch and stain films" :  ". . . "  Reels One to Five (1998).


Marilyn Brakhage


On 25-Aug-15, at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:

I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on  
celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant  
Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's  
work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len  
Lye's Free Radicals.


What am I missing? Old and New?

Bonus points it it's set to African drums...


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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[William Wees, Dr.]

Hi, Tess—

Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films?

--Bill


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Tess Takahashi
Sent: August 25, 2015 3:09 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
What am I missing? Old and New?
Bonus points it it's set to African drums...

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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Edo]

Tess, I think Pat O'Neill's COREOPSIS also employed scratching.

On 8/25/15 4:11 PM, William Wees, Dr. wrote:
> Hi, Tess—
> 
>  
> 
> Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films?
> 
>  
> 
> --Bill
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tess Takahashi
> *Sent:* August 25, 2015 3:09 PM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
> 
>  
> 
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on
> celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant
> Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work,
> Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free
> Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New?
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[robert harris]

Much of Aldo Tambellini’s early film work:

Black Is
Blackout

and others


On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald  wrote:

> Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.
> 
> Robert Huot's SCRATCH
> 
> Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED
> 
> Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS
> 
> I'll keep thinkin'
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi  
> wrote:
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Carl E Bogner]

Tess, hi -


I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, 
who wouldn't let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had 
scratched on it.


I overstate but Naz Dincel's practice relentlessly involves scratching on her 
film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film "Her 
Silent Seaming" -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this 
year and also screened at Images, among other places.


(I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, 
contact Tess.)


Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in "A 
Lecture," its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about 
from "Lana Turner" to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.


What's with Roger Beebe's premature fatigue? Man!


Carl

Milwaukee





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Takahashi 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.

What am I missing? Old and New?

Bonus points it it's set to African drums...


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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Warren Cockerham]

Paul Bush 

Zig Zag (1994) by Ricard Reeves 

there are MANY MANY more out there. I believe there's a section in Cecile
Starr and Robert Russett's Experimental Animation book... right?

good luck,
Warren


On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Tess Takahashi 
wrote:

> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Patrick Friel]

Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)

Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999)

Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951)

But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.


Patrick F.




On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner"  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tess, hi - 
> 
> 
> 
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor,
> who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had
> scratched on it. 
> 
> 
> 
> I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her
> film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film ³Her
> Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this
> year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> 
> 
> 
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
> Naz, contact Tess.)
> 
> 
> 
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A
> Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
> about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> 
> 
> 
> What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man!
> 
> 
> 
> Carl
> 
> Milwaukee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: FrameWorks  on behalf of Tess
> Takahashi 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>  
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like
> Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's
> World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm
> DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New?
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Warren Cockerham]

Hey Patrick (and Tess)..

I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years
too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish
to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many
months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath...  I guess that's why there
are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film
and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image.

hope that helps,
Warren

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel 
wrote:

> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
>
> Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
>
> Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
>
> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
>
>
> Patrick F.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Tess, hi -
>
>
>
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann
> Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she
> had scratched on it.
>
>
>
> I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on
> her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film
> “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at
> FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
>
>
>
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
> Naz, contact Tess.)
>
>
>
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A
> Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
> about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
>
>
>
> What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
> Milwaukee
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------
> *From:* FrameWorks  on behalf of
> Tess Takahashi 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
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> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>
>
>
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[Beebe, Roger W.]

But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t…

On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham 
mailto:warrencocker...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Patrick (and Tess)..

I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. 
But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the 
parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. 
Then, she gave the film a bleach bath...  I guess that's why there are faint 
images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and 
crevices on the other parts of the image.

hope that helps,
Warren

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel 
mailto:patrick.fr...@att.net>> wrote:
Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)

Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)

Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)

But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.


Patrick F.




On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" 
http://crlel...@uwm.edu/>> wrote:





Tess, hi -



I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, 
who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had 
scratched on it.



I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her 
film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her 
Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this 
year and also screened at Images, among other places.



(I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, 
contact Tess.)



Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A 
Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about 
from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.



What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!



Carl

Milwaukee







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Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.

What am I missing? Old and New?

Bonus points it it's set to African drums...




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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Patrick Friel]

³Chemical Scratching²  -  I¹m sticking to that. Yeah.



On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W."  wrote:

> But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn¹tŠ
> 
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Patrick (and Tess)..
>> 
>> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too.
>> But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the
>> parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months.
>> Then, she gave the film a bleach bath...  I guess that's why there are faint
>> images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and
>> crevices on the other parts of the image.
>> 
>> hope that helps,
>> Warren 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel  wrote:
>>> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
>>> 
>>> Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999)
>>> 
>>> Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951)
>>> 
>>> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Patrick F.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner" >> <http://crlel...@uwm.edu/> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tess, hi - 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann
>>>> Arbor, who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she
>>>> had scratched on it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on
>>>> her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film
>>>> ³Her Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at
>>>> FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list?
>>>> Naz, contact Tess.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A
>>>> Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is
>>>> about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carl
>>>> 
>>>> Milwaukee
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: FrameWorks >>> <http://frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com/> > on behalf of Tess
>>>> Takahashi http://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/> >
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM
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>>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>>>>  
>>>> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
>>>> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
>>>> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
>>>> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>>>> 
>>>> What am I missing? Old and New?
>>>> 
>>>> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Vicky Smith5]

Schneeman's Fuses has some scratching of photographed film.  Also in this vein 
there is Peyote Queen by Storm de Hirsch. There are expanded animation works by 
for e.g. Greg Pope, Bruce McClure, Dirk de Bruyn - all of whom employ 
scratching of and removal of emulsion.  For my own part I am currently 
scratching into fogged 16mm neg, although I am rubbing more than scratching to 
create the effect of soft shapes rather than jagged lines,

Vicky

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“Chemical Scratching”  -  I’m sticking to that. Yeah.



On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W." > 
wrote:

But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t…

On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham 
> wrote:

Hey Patrick (and Tess)..

I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. 
But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the 
parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. 
Then, she gave the film a bleach bath...  I guess that's why there are faint 
images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and 
crevices on the other parts of the image.

hope that helps,
Warren

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel 
> wrote:
Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)

Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)

Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)

But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.


Patrick F.




On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner"  
<http://crlel...@uwm.edu/> > wrote:





Tess, hi -



I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, 
who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had 
scratched on it.



I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her 
film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her 
Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this 
year and also screened at Images, among other places.



(I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, 
contact Tess.)



Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A 
Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about 
from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.



What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!



Carl

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I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.

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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Michael Betancourt]

There's Rey Parla's films from the 90s:
Sporadic Germinatipn
Rumba Abstracta

M

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> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi  wrote:
> 
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Ruth Hayes]

Hi Tess,

I and other members of Olympia, WA. Crackpot Crafters (Devon Damonte, Jason 
Gutz, Eric Sarai, Meg Myhre, and several others) have been doing a lot of 
scratching on 16mm and 35, among other techniques, but not necessarily 
completing them as finished "films." More likely projecting loops of them in 
live performance venues as expanded cinema. We have a Facebook page with some 
clips and images, and I've posted some of my loops to my vimeo page.  
(www.vimeo.com/ruthhayes)

You might also check out the chapter on Direct Animation in Maureen Furniss' 
Animation Bible for which Devon wrote a significant chunk, as I understand it!

Best,

Ruth


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blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

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> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[חן שינברג]

Harry smith - early abstractions. 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

ב-26 באוג 2015, בשעה 00:38, Patrick Friel  כתב/ה:

> “Chemical Scratching”  -  I’m sticking to that. Yeah.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, "Beebe, Roger W."  wrote:
> 
> But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t… 
> 
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Patrick (and Tess).. 
> 
> I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. 
> But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the 
> parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. 
> Then, she gave the film a bleach bath...  I guess that's why there are faint 
> images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and 
> crevices on the other parts of the image. 
> 
> hope that helps, 
> Warren 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel  wrote:
> Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985)
> 
> Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999)
> 
> Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951)
> 
> But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface.
> 
> 
> Patrick F.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, "Carl E Bogner"  <http://crlel...@uwm.edu/> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tess, hi - 
> 
> 
> 
> I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, 
> who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had 
> scratched on it. 
> 
> 
> 
> I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her 
> film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her 
> Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this 
> year and also screened at Images, among other places.
> 
> 
> 
> (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? 
> Naz, contact Tess.)
> 
> 
> 
> Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A 
> Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is 
> about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly.
> 
> 
> 
> What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man!
> 
> 
> 
> Carl
> 
> Milwaukee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Takahashi http://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/> >
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films 
>  
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] titles of Scratch films

[C Keefer]

Hi Tess,
Hy Hirsh's Scratch Pad (1961). Possibly also a few shots in his La Couleur
de la Forme.

More on Hy Hirsh: centerforvisualmusic.org/Hirsh/CVM-HirshFilmography.htm

Cindy Keefer
Center for Visual Music
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[nicky . hamlyn]

Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with 
addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.

Nicky.

 

 

 

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I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.


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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Tess Takahashi]

Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who
sent links!

I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested
reading materials by crackpot crafters + others!

I sure there are more out there...

Tess

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM,  wrote:

> Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid,
> later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.
>
> Nicky.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>
> What am I missing? Old and New?
>
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[nicky . hamlyn]

Hi Tess,

Vicky's email below. She also just completed her PhD, which is on 'Full-Body 
Film',

Best wishes,

Nicky.

vsmi...@students.ucreative.ac.uk
 

 

 

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Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent 
links!


I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested 
reading materials by crackpot crafters + others!


I sure there are more out there...


Tess



On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM,   wrote:

Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with 
addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.

Nicky.

 

 

 

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Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films





I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like 
Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's 
World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm 
DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.


What am I missing? Old and New? 


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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Ruth Hayes]

And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation 
performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s. 

Ruth

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On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:

> Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who 
> sent links!
> 
> I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested 
> reading materials by crackpot crafters + others!
> 
> I sure there are more out there...
> 
> Tess
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM,  wrote:
> Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later 
> with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.
> 
> Nicky.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid 
> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona 
> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, 
> Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
> 
> What am I missing? Old and New? 
> 
> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Dominic Angerame]

You check out my Film, called "Scratches Inc. made around 1972 with
soundtrack by the Fugs.

Dominic

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ruth Hayes  wrote:

> And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation
> performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s.
>
> Ruth
>
> http://www.randommotion.com
>
> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
>
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:
>
> Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who
> sent links!
>
> I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested
> reading materials by crackpot crafters + others!
>
> I sure there are more out there...
>
> Tess
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid,
>> later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.
>>
>> Nicky.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tess Takahashi 
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>>
>> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid
>> like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona
>> Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's
>> work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals.
>>
>> What am I missing? Old and New?
>>
>> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films

[Christopher Ball]

I did a variety of techniques on a film I did about 4 years ago, www.
*youtube*.com/watch?v=gRiGzHKpUaY
Watchmaker, Tom Fun Orchestra.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Dominic Angerame <
dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You check out my Film, called "Scratches Inc. made around 1972 with
> soundtrack by the Fugs.
>
> Dominic
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ruth Hayes 
> wrote:
>
>> And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation
>> performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s.
>>
>> Ruth
>>
>> http://www.randommotion.com
>>
>> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you
>> who sent links!
>>
>> I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested
>> reading materials by crackpot crafters + others!
>>
>> I sure there are more out there...
>>
>> Tess
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid,
>>> later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful.
>>>
>>> Nicky.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Tess Takahashi 
>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>>> Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09
>>> Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
>>>
>>> I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on
>>> celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant
>>> Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work,
>>> Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free
>>> Radicals.
>>>
>>> What am I missing? Old and New?
>>>
>>> Bonus points it it's set to African drums...
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