Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? Can you give it a rest? You made a bad call, people are giving you grief for it. That is not a bikeshed. Warner ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? Can you give it a rest? You made a bad call, people are giving you grief for it. That is not a bikeshed. It's just a joke at my own expense. Sorry to imply otherwise. -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It's just a joke at my own expense. Sorry to imply otherwise. Yea. My snapping at you was out of line. I'm just a little frustrated and let it get the better of me. Please forgive me. Warner ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of thing. Per request, I have updated my version of the FreeBSD No Bikeshed t-shirt at http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=cmvp.6951805. I removed the BSDCon'03 text at the bottom and replaced it with No Bikeshed. The slightly modified graphics I created for this shirt are available at http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-R.png and http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-L.png, under the same No Bikeshed license under which PHK released the original versions. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of thing. Per request, I have updated my version of the FreeBSD No Bikeshed t-shirt at http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=cmvp.6951805. I removed the BSDCon'03 text at the bottom and replaced it with No Bikeshed. The slightly modified graphics I created for this shirt are available at http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-R.png and http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-L.png, under the same No Bikeshed license under which PHK released the original versions. Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 1:29 AM -0400 2003/09/21, Daniel Eischen wrote: Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? I could do up an ash grey t-shirt with slightly modified graphics. What would a no -pthread symbol look like? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:29 AM -0400 2003/09/21, Daniel Eischen wrote: Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? I could do up an ash grey t-shirt with slightly modified graphics. What would a no -pthread symbol look like? I'd imagine a thread would look like: / / \ \ \ / / / or something like that. I'm sure Terry could draw much better ASCI art. Then you'd want a circle around it with a bar thru it ;-) My question was retorical, BTW. Don't really spend any time drawing one :-) -- Dan Eischen ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 5:02 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. You misunderstood: Yes, it is absolutely OK for you do print T-shirts, mugs, or anything else you might want to use it on. Sorry about that. Originally I wasn't sure, but on thinking about it some more, I felt more confident that you had meant something else. I guess I over-analyzed your response. I'll put the shirt back up in a few minutes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 5:02 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: You misunderstood: Yes, it is absolutely OK for you do print T-shirts, mugs, or anything else you might want to use it on. Sorry for the confusion. My version is now back at http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=cmvp.6951805. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The bikeshed T-shirt which has been referred about was only produced in 5 copies and I hadn't really expected that so many people would ask me about it. I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of thing. The xfig source is here: http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.fig http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.pdf Enjoy... Note: before making a t-shirt, be sure to modify the image and select your favorite bikeshed color. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Associates Laboratories ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The bikeshed T-shirt
Cool! BTW, the real links are: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.fig http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.pdf ...but I would have used a blue bicycle and a white roof. ;-) John -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The bikeshed T-shirt The bikeshed T-shirt which has been referred about was only produced in 5 copies and I hadn't really expected that so many people would ask me about it. I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of thing. The xfig source is here: http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.fig http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.pdf Enjoy... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of thing. Problem solved. See http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915. Note that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress member can confirm). The xfig source is here: http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.fig http://phk.frebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.pdf The PNG version I created is at http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/freebsd-bikeshed.png. Enjoy... I have interpreted your post to mean that it's okay for other people to print up t-shirts, based on this image. However, if you prefer that I take this down, just let me know. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Knowles writes: I have interpreted your post to mean that it's okay for other people to print up t-shirts, based on this image. However, if you prefer that I take this down, just let me know. Yes, absolutely. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of the easiest ways to quickly take any image you want and put it on a wide variety of different products from t-shirts, hats, aprons, mugs, and a whole host of others. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 2:00 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Brad Knowles wrote: Problem solved. See http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915. Note that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress member can confirm). Per PHK's request, I am taking this down. The PNG version I created is at http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/freebsd-bikeshed.png. I will leave my PNG version of the bikeshed graphic in place, unless I get another request from PHK to remove it. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of the easiest ways to quickly take any image you want and put it on a wide variety of different products from t-shirts, hats, aprons, mugs, and a whole host of others. I interpreted his Yes, absolutely to be a grant of permission. I think he was replying to the first sentance, not the second. DS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
Brad Knowles wrote: At 2:00 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Brad Knowles wrote: Problem solved. See http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915. Note that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress member can confirm). Per PHK's request, I am taking this down. My interpretation of phk's reply was that you could, you may want to check again. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
Brad Knowles wrote: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of the easiest ways to quickly take any image you want and put it on a wide variety of different products from t-shirts, hats, aprons, mugs, and a whole host of others. Err, Brad... I'm pretty sure PH was answering the first sentence, not the second. :-) Well, maybe you get to buy him a beer if you really like the t-shirt. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steele: Aha! We've finally got you talking jargon too! Stallman: What did he say? Steele: Bob just used canonical in the canonical way. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
David Schwartz wrote: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of the easiest ways to quickly take any image you want and put it on a wide variety of different products from t-shirts, hats, aprons, mugs, and a whole host of others. I interpreted his Yes, absolutely to be a grant of permission. I think he was replying to the first sentance, not the second. Yes. Maybe we should remove Brad's commit bit until he puts the t-shirt up again??? :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steele: Aha! We've finally got you talking jargon too! Stallman: What did he say? Steele: Bob just used canonical in the canonical way. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
At 10:17 PM -0300 2003/09/11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Yes. Maybe we should remove Brad's commit bit until he puts the t-shirt up again??? :-) I concede that I may have mis-interpreted PHK's response, but before I consider putting the shirt design back up, I need to get explicit confirmation from him that this is okay. I thought about whether or not this was a mis-interpretation or not, but he's usually pretty careful about trimming the quote to which he is responding. I would have expected him to omit the last sentence of that paragraph if his response was positive, but since he kept it, I concluded that he was against the idea. The images should probably have a copyright statement attached to them, and specify under what kind of license they may be distributed under. I can add that to the PNGs I generated (at PHK's direction), or he can re-generate the source files from which I will work. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++): a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+() DI+() D+(++) G+() e++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bikeshed T-shirt
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Knowles writes: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. You misunderstood: Yes, it is absolutely OK for you do print T-shirts, mugs, or anything else you might want to use it on. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
