Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Steve Kargl]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:25:16AM +, Paul Richards wrote:
> Garrett Wollman wrote:
>> 
>> < said:
>> 
>>> There's one real oddity in FreeBSD:
>> 
>>> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   wheel  13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt -> /usr/sbin/rmt*
>> 
>> The pathname of the `rmt' program is a fundamental part of the `rmt'
>> ``protocol'' such as it is.  We've been over this one many times.
> 
> Maybe the time's come to just deprecate rmt, I'd be surprised if there
> are many people still using it.

You don't have Digital Unix system do you?  I use rmt all the
time because I couldn't get amanda to work on a 64-bit OS
a few years ago.  rmt works and so I've haven't tried any newer
versions of amanda.

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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Paul Richards]

Garrett Wollman wrote:
> 
> < said:
> 
> > There's one real oddity in FreeBSD:
> 
> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root wheel  13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt -> /usr/sbin/rmt*
> 
> The pathname of the `rmt' program is a fundamental part of the `rmt'
> ``protocol'' such as it is.  We've been over this one many times.

Maybe the time's come to just deprecate rmt, I'd be surprised if there
are many people still using it.

Paul.

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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Garrett Wollman]

< said:

> There's one real oddity in FreeBSD:

> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root wheel  13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt -> /usr/sbin/rmt*

The pathname of the `rmt' program is a fundamental part of the `rmt'
``protocol'' such as it is.  We've been over this one many times.

-GAWollman


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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Brian Somers]

> Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I thought only sysv kept non-startup executables in /etc.
> 
> There's one real oddity in FreeBSD:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc
> :; ll rmt
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root wheel  13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt -> /usr/sbin/rmt*

I think that's there for compatibility... programs that want to talk 
to remote tapes execute ``rsh /etc/rmt ...'' (or is ssh the default 
these days?).

> Plus the rc scripts, dhclient-exit-hooks, pccard_ether, and netstart.

I guess you could argue that these are more like executable 
system configuration files, along with others like 
/etc/start_if.iface.

> Tony.
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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Tony Finch]

Brian Somers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I thought only sysv kept non-startup executables in /etc.

There's one real oddity in FreeBSD:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc
:; ll rmt
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root wheel  13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt -> /usr/sbin/rmt*

Plus the rc scripts, dhclient-exit-hooks, pccard_ether, and netstart.

Tony.
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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Brian Somers]

> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean Louis Ntakpe writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >In /usr/src/etc/Makefile:
> >
> >"make distribution" is still trying to copy MAKEDEV to /dev
> >on a system with devfs mounted to /dev. 
> >Since devfs is default, is this behaviour correct or my 
> >/etc/make.conf is missing something ?
> 
> I think that MAKEDEV should be moved away from /dev.
> 
> Ideally it belongs somewhere rather obscure, but /etc/MAKEDEV
> is ok with me.

/sbin would be better.  I thought only sysv kept non-startup 
executables in /etc.

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Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Poul-Henning Kamp]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean Louis Ntakpe writes:
>Hi,
>
>In /usr/src/etc/Makefile:
>
>"make distribution" is still trying to copy MAKEDEV to /dev
>on a system with devfs mounted to /dev. 
>Since devfs is default, is this behaviour correct or my 
>/etc/make.conf is missing something ?

I think that MAKEDEV should be moved away from /dev.

Ideally it belongs somewhere rather obscure, but /etc/MAKEDEV
is ok with me.

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cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

[Jean Louis Ntakpe]

Hi,

In /usr/src/etc/Makefile:

"make distribution" is still trying to copy MAKEDEV to /dev
on a system with devfs mounted to /dev. 
Since devfs is default, is this behaviour correct or my 
/etc/make.conf is missing something ?

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