Re: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance

2008-10-10 Thread Michal Kulczewski


Brian wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've
>> tried using both the nv driver as well as nvidia.
>>
>> My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512
>> dedicated memory and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1
>> and 8.0(Current) with all malloc debugging features disabled as well
>> as kernel debugging options turned off. I've also tried switching back
>> to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) to no avail.
>>
>> In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd
>> share this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom
>> --Original Message--
>> From: Michal Kulczewski
>> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance
>> Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7.
>> I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati
>> drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it
>> because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to
>> any suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Michal
> 
> 
> Here is some additional info, I too am doing v3.
> 
> http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php


well, there is no much information available though. IMHO it's a pity
that once fancy gui is available, freebsd users can not make use of it.
I have to switch to gnome (somehow I don't like kde3).

Cheers,
 Michal
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Re: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance

2008-10-10 Thread Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Michael,

Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using 
both the nv driver as well as nvidia.

My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory 
and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all 
malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned 
off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) 
to no avail.

In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share 
this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well.

Regards,

Tom
--Original Message--
From: Michal Kulczewski
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance
Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM

Hi,

I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7.
I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati
drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it
because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to
any suggestions.

Cheers,
 Michal



Here is some additional info, I too am doing v3.

http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

Brian


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Re: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance

2008-10-10 Thread freebsdemail
Hi Michael,

Unfortunetly I've been having the same difficulty with KDE4. I've tried using 
both the nv driver as well as nvidia.

My hardware is intel core2 duo 1.8ghz, nvidia 8600 gs with 512 dedicated memory 
and 2gigs of system memory. I've tried using 7.0, 7.1 and 8.0(Current) with all 
malloc debugging features disabled as well as kernel debugging options turned 
off. I've also tried switching back to UFS filesystems from ZFS(root install) 
to no avail.

In the end I ended up using kde3 due to endless headaches. I felt I'd share 
this in hopes someone has managed to get it to run reasonably well.

Regards,

Tom
--Original Message--
From: Michal Kulczewski
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: freebsd7 & kde4 & performance
Sent: Oct 11, 2008 12:18 AM

Hi,

I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7.
I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati
drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it
because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to
any suggestions.

Cheers,
 Michal
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freebsd7 & kde4 & performance

2008-10-10 Thread Michal Kulczewski
Hi,

I'm a little bit disappointed with the performance of kde4 on freebsd7.
I have Pentium M 2GHz, 1GB RAM, radeon x300, tried both, radeon and ati
drivers, but kde4 is still so slow that I cannot work with it. Is it
because of poor graphic card or driver itself? I'm looking forward to
any suggestions.

Cheers,
 Michal
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Re: Need help installing on SATA

2008-10-10 Thread Brian

Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
Does anyone know the magic incantation that will permit me to install 
FreeBSD on this new machine of mine (nVidia chipset, SATA1 disk 
controller)?


I've been trying for a week or so now, with no luck.  Just out of 
curiosity, I downloaded and ran Ubuntu 8.x, and it recognized all of 
my hardware automatically.  The FreeBSD installer (both in 7.x and 
8.x), though, can't find my hard drive or CD-ROM.


I *really* don't want to have to resort to Linux, not after using 
FreeBSD for 12 years now, but if I can't find a solution to this 
problem, I'll have no choice.  :-(


Thanks for any advice.


Can u not get thru the install, or do you have issues afterwards?
I make it thru the install ok, but when I upgrade to stable, I have 
problems due to numbering changes.
I'd suggest using google or the freebsd website to search for your 
motherboard model and some other search terms.

You'll probably be told to check the supported hw list to start with.

Brian

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Need help installing on SATA

2008-10-10 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
Does anyone know the magic incantation that will permit me to install 
FreeBSD on this new machine of mine (nVidia chipset, SATA1 disk 
controller)?

I've been trying for a week or so now, with no luck.  Just out of 
curiosity, I downloaded and ran Ubuntu 8.x, and it recognized all of 
my hardware automatically.  The FreeBSD installer (both in 7.x and 
8.x), though, can't find my hard drive or CD-ROM.

I *really* don't want to have to resort to Linux, not after using 
FreeBSD for 12 years now, but if I can't find a solution to this 
problem, I'll have no choice.  :-(

Thanks for any advice.



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dmesg: Invalid time in clock: check and reset the date

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Smith
Hi, I've just installed FreeBSD 7.0 Release along with Windows XP on my PC. I 
found that when I set the clock to the correct time&date, next time I boot into 
FreeBSD it changes and reports the wrong time&date. Both BIOS and Windows 
reports the time correctly.

dmesg shows the following message:
Invalid time in clock: check and reset the date!

Can't figure out what's wrong... any help will be appreciated.

regards


  

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proflibs

2008-10-10 Thread Ansar Mohammed
Can anyone explain what are the proflibs on the install media, and what they
are for?

 


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Re: kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries...

2008-10-10 Thread Mark Tinguely
>  > vm.pmap.pv_entry_count: 583006
>  > vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 200
>  > vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 2243305
>  >
>  > The system:
>  > FreeBSD  7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct  1
>  > 07:51:58 UTC 2008
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>  >
>  > Can someone briefly explain what this is telling me and how to decide
>  > which sysctl to increase? I have found some old postings that predate
>  > the sysctls that suggested increasing shpgperproc in the kernel
>  > configuration, about 50 at a time until the problem goes away, but I
>  > still have no clue what that is accomplishing.

what (simplified):
the pv_entry helps the virtual memory system track physical pages, so a
physical page can be shared with another process or another virtual address.

In the i386/amd64 the pv_entry entries are allocated in page size "chunks"
on a per process memory map basis. This helps reduce redundant pointers
and overall saves memory.

"shpgperproc" can be read as "the number of shared pages per proceess".
pv_entry_max is calculated from shpgperproc (and on the amd64, shpgperproc
can be derived from setting the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max).

On the amd64, the values can be adjusted by sysctl, but on the i386
the values must be compiled into the kernel. 

There are some automatic adjustments in the calculation of the number
of pv_entry, but the warnings are given early enough to help aid in the
tweaking of the value. The advice of slowly increasing vm.pmap.shpgperproc
is probably the best solution. I would adjust up slower than 50 (25%
increase seems to be pretty high).

--Mark Tinguely.
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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread John Almberg


sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true


First off, this did solve the problem. Thank you, Jeremy.

Now, as to the why...


That's odd, because if you are running  7.x with a default settings,
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE should be irrelevant to fetching distfiles - even if
it's set to "no".

Do you have any FETCH_* variables defined?


No


What happens if you cd to a
port directory and type: make -V FETCH_CMD ?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]> cd /usr/ports/shells/zsh
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]:zsh]> make -V FETCH_CMD
/usr/bin/fetch -ApRr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:zsh]>


I then wanted to install NTP:

cd /usr/ports/net/ntp
make config; make install clean

This failed because the mirrors were not accessible.


I just tried this port myself and it failed on all four servers
configured in the Makefile, only succeeding on the fallback Freebsd
server, (Freebsd's own cache for package building).

Unless you turn-up something odd for FETCH_CMD, I think there's
a good chance that you never had an FTP firewall problem in the first
place, and that the file has simply been added to ftp.freebsd.org  
since

you got the original failure.


I just removed the FTP_PASSIVE_MODE variable from .bash_profile,  
logged out, and logged back in. I then tried to install another port  
and it installed without problem.


-- John

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Re: Fwd: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:16:29 -0400
John Almberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>
> >>> See the fetch(1) man page.  Try this first:
> >>>
> >>> sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
> >>> csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true
> 
> First off, this did solve the problem. Thank you, Jeremy.
> 
> Now, as to the why...

That's odd, because if you are running  7.x with a default settings,
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE should be irrelevant to fetching distfiles - even if
it's set to "no".

Do you have any FETCH_* variables defined? What happens if you cd to a
port directory and type: make -V FETCH_CMD ?


> I believe I am using ports. In this case, I had just installed and  
> configured PF (the first thing I do, now, when building a new
> machine.)
> 
> I then wanted to install NTP:
> 
> cd /usr/ports/net/ntp
> make config; make install clean
> 
> This failed because the mirrors were not accessible.

I just tried this port myself and it failed on all four servers
configured in the Makefile, only succeeding on the fallback Freebsd
server, (Freebsd's own cache for package building).

Unless you turn-up something odd for FETCH_CMD, I think there's
a good chance that you never had an FTP firewall problem in the first
place, and that the file has simply been added to ftp.freebsd.org since
you got the original failure.
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Re: kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries...

2008-10-10 Thread Paul A. Procacci

Bob Johnson wrote:

A web server with several jailed copies of Apache is having problems
that seem to be caused by incorrect IPFW rules, but in the process of
working on that, I find in the log the following repeated many times:

Oct  8 23:29:50 spider kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries,
consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl.
Oct  8 23:30:52 spider kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries,
consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl.

sysctl gives me:

# sysctl vm.pmap
vm.pmap.pmap_collect_active: 0
vm.pmap.pmap_collect_inactive: 0
vm.pmap.pv_entry_spare: 45818
vm.pmap.pv_entry_allocs: 595716945
vm.pmap.pv_entry_frees: 595133939
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_tryfail: 0
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_frees: 3543052
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_allocs: 3546795
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_count: 3743
vm.pmap.pv_entry_count: 583006
vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 200
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 2243305

The system:
FreeBSD  7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct  1
07:51:58 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Can someone briefly explain what this is telling me and how to decide
which sysctl to increase? I have found some old postings that predate
the sysctls that suggested increasing shpgperproc in the kernel
configuration, about 50 at a time until the problem goes away, but I
still have no clue what that is accomplishing.

Also, the system has been rebooted since I collected those messages,
and they aren't happening any more, but I expect they will reappear
eventually. Until then I probably can't actually test anything.

Thanks for your time,

-- Bob Johnson
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For what it's worth, I just came across a machine with the same exact 
problem, except when I do finally run out of entries, I get a kernel panic.


FBSD 7-RELEASE-p4

~Paul
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Re: an even dumber q: how do i get sage's ports-ypgrade working?

2008-10-10 Thread freebsdemail
Are you referring to sysinstall?

/usr/sbin/sysinstall

In the older days it was under /stand if I'm correct

If you are missing the ports you could also simply use ftp to transfer the 
tar.gz archive from ftp.freebsd.org or an alternative mirror...

Regards,

Tom
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-Original Message-
From: Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:21:34 
To: FreeBSD Mailing List
Subject: an even dumber q: how do i get sage's ports-ypgrade working?



Late last December my small network began falling apart.  Still
not sure how, but a fellow from Dallas came to my rescue and from
his home, slowly rebuilt and re-configured everything.  E.g.: for
one thing, where I hack sendmail working via various kludges, he
set up imap.  I had thought that was mostly for students

He also filled me in on jails.  Previously, I had my 1998 Kayak
doing DNS and mail and web solo.  Jon created a jail and set
things up there.  He used NFS to bring over things from a faster
computer.  That's well and good; it makes sense to compile a
suite that takes days on sage [Kayak @ 400MHz] on my Dell8200
[2.4GHZ].  A few days ago I realized that I was missing some
simple programs on sage.  I went into ports: empty.  Years ago
there was a standalone script that let you fix or tune things. 
I thought it was on the hard drive as well as the CD set.

Anybody?

thanks for any clues!

gary



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an even dumber q: how do i get sage's ports-ypgrade working?

2008-10-10 Thread Gary Kline

Late last December my small network began falling apart.  Still
not sure how, but a fellow from Dallas came to my rescue and from
his home, slowly rebuilt and re-configured everything.  E.g.: for
one thing, where I hack sendmail working via various kludges, he
set up imap.  I had thought that was mostly for students

He also filled me in on jails.  Previously, I had my 1998 Kayak
doing DNS and mail and web solo.  Jon created a jail and set
things up there.  He used NFS to bring over things from a faster
computer.  That's well and good; it makes sense to compile a
suite that takes days on sage [Kayak @ 400MHz] on my Dell8200
[2.4GHZ].  A few days ago I realized that I was missing some
simple programs on sage.  I went into ports: empty.  Years ago
there was a standalone script that let you fix or tune things. 
I thought it was on the hard drive as well as the CD set.

Anybody?

thanks for any clues!

gary



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Re: kwik question re virt websites...

2008-10-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:08:48PM -0700, Fred Condo wrote:
> 
> On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > When I restarted apache22, there was a warning that
> > something was missing.  It had nothing [ hopefully ] to
> > do with the new virtual site I want to set up.
> >
> > Can anybody tell me what the following error is?  I do
> > have an index.html file in /usr/local/www/cryonics.
> > Also have the entries in the apache22/Includes/httpd*
> > and in my namedb/* files.  I have more that five virtual
> > websites; what am I forgetting here??
> >
> > gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >lynx: Can't access startfile http://cryonics.thought.org/
> >
> >
> >--  
> >Gary Kline  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.thought.org  Public  
> >Service Unix
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> 
> It's your DNS:
> 
> $ host cryonics.thought.org
> Host cryonics.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
> 


Yes, you're absoultely right [ as i had an idea about around 45
minutes after my post.  It was January since I last touched those
files, and sad to admin, my LAN volunteer did that favor when he
re-organized stuff for me.  Thus, i thank you muchly and hang my
head in shame.

And, uhhh, i've got an even dumber question coming up very
shortly.  just to prepare the list for more yuks.

gary


> 

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Re: gzipping multiple files w/o tarring

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:42:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>
>> "gzip *" will do what you want.
>>
>> When it encounters something that's already gzip'd, it will skip it,
>> but will emit a warning that it's doing so.
>>
>> Otherwise, you could use something like:
>>
>> find -X . \! -name "*.tar.gz" -type f -maxdepth 1 | xargs gzip
>>
> i don't understand the difference.

The 2nd will avoid the warnings emit by "gzip *" when encountering
already-gzipped files.

It all depends on what the user wants.

> .tar.gz files are already gzip'd :), so no need for second case. it will  
> be skipped anyway

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Re: kwik question re virt websites...

2008-10-10 Thread Fred Condo


On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote:



Guys,

When I restarted apache22, there was a warning that
something was missing.  It had nothing [ hopefully ] to
do with the new virtual site I want to set up.

Can anybody tell me what the following error is?  I do
have an index.html file in /usr/local/www/cryonics.
Also have the entries in the apache22/Includes/httpd*
and in my namedb/* files.  I have more that five virtual
websites; what am I forgetting here??

gary




lynx: Can't access startfile http://cryonics.thought.org/


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It's your DNS:

$ host cryonics.thought.org
Host cryonics.thought.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)


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kwik question re virt websites...

2008-10-10 Thread Gary Kline

Guys,

When I restarted apache22, there was a warning that
something was missing.  It had nothing [ hopefully ] to
do with the new virtual site I want to set up.

Can anybody tell me what the following error is?  I do
have an index.html file in /usr/local/www/cryonics.
Also have the entries in the apache22/Includes/httpd*
and in my namedb/* files.  I have more that five virtual
websites; what am I forgetting here??

gary




lynx: Can't access startfile http://cryonics.thought.org/


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Re: cvsup.uk.freebsd.org down

2008-10-10 Thread Edwin Groothuis
> Someone with good BGP views should probably put all of the CVS/FTP/Rsync
> mirrors in Nagios (with something reasonable like a 6 hour check interval)
> and send reports to freebsd-www@ or so.

The closest thing we have on it is:

http://www.mavetju.org/unix/freebsd-mirrors/

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kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries...

2008-10-10 Thread Bob Johnson
A web server with several jailed copies of Apache is having problems
that seem to be caused by incorrect IPFW rules, but in the process of
working on that, I find in the log the following repeated many times:

Oct  8 23:29:50 spider kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries,
consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl.
Oct  8 23:30:52 spider kernel: Approaching the limit on PV entries,
consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl.

sysctl gives me:

# sysctl vm.pmap
vm.pmap.pmap_collect_active: 0
vm.pmap.pmap_collect_inactive: 0
vm.pmap.pv_entry_spare: 45818
vm.pmap.pv_entry_allocs: 595716945
vm.pmap.pv_entry_frees: 595133939
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_tryfail: 0
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_frees: 3543052
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_allocs: 3546795
vm.pmap.pc_chunk_count: 3743
vm.pmap.pv_entry_count: 583006
vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 200
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 2243305

The system:
FreeBSD  7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct  1
07:51:58 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

Can someone briefly explain what this is telling me and how to decide
which sysctl to increase? I have found some old postings that predate
the sysctls that suggested increasing shpgperproc in the kernel
configuration, about 50 at a time until the problem goes away, but I
still have no clue what that is accomplishing.

Also, the system has been rebooted since I collected those messages,
and they aren't happening any more, but I expect they will reappear
eventually. Until then I probably can't actually test anything.

Thanks for your time,

-- Bob Johnson
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Re: setkey panic freebsd7

2008-10-10 Thread alan yang
sorry, /usr/local/sbin/setkey failed on parsing that specific add, not
panic.  no specific info, just say parse failed. maybe something is
not supported ...?

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, alan yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i wonder people ran into similar issue on setkey with freebsd7 that
> panic at ~/crypto/sha1.c:263 within sha1_result()
>  digest[0] = ctxt->h.b8[3]; digest[1] = ctxt->h.b8[2];
>
> on the following sadb add with setkey:
>  add 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.110 esp-old 0x10001 -m any -E des-cbc
> "12345678" -A keyed-sha1 "12345678123456781234"
>
> thanks in advance on any hints.
>
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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:41:40 -0700
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:54:32PM +0100, RW wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:51:16 -0700
> > Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > passive ftp has been the default for long time, fetch is called
> > with the -p option.
> 
> Let's give the users some actual detail, not terse one-liners which
> will induce more questions/confusion.


< Snip some facts used as a blunt instrument > 

> The OP did not disclose how he was installing ports.  A lot of users
> think that packages == ports, 

I don't normally do this as Watson is usually less impressed when
Holmes reveals his working, but the clues were there. He wrote: 

   "install software with ports (i.e, the 
   /usr/ports collection.)"

and 

   "FTP to grab source files from mirrors"

If you combine that with crediting the poster with enough common sense
to mention he was using a version before 6.2, then it seemed unlikely
to be a problem with active FTP. 

BTW neither of us actually answered the question. I know I forgot as I
was in a hurry. I'm pretty sure you didn't either, but I don't have the
time to read all of your reply in detail.

The answer is: enable outgoing tcp connections to port 21 and to all
ports above 1023.
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Fwd: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread John Almberg




sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true


Ah... because in passive mode, the client (my server) sets the data  
port, and my PF rules allow return data on the port used for the  
request.


Okay... that makes sense, I think... (little by little, it sinks in...)

-- John


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Fwd: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread John Almberg

On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:54:32PM +0100, RW wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:51:16 -0700
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:45:04PM -0400, John Almberg wrote:

I just set up a new server with a very restricted PF configuration.
One problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e,
the / usr/ports collection.) I have to disable PF to do so.
Obviously not a great solution.

Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files
from mirrors? I'm trying to figure out the smallest number of ports
(the TCP/IP kind) that I need to open in my firewall. I don't want
to enable incoming FTP requests, but do want to allow outgoing ftp
requests, I believe.

Am I on the right track, here?


See the fetch(1) man page.  Try this first:

sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true


First off, this did solve the problem. Thank you, Jeremy.

Now, as to the why...



passive ftp has been the default for long time, fetch is called
with the -p option.


Let's give the users some actual detail, not terse one-liners which  
will

induce more questions/confusion.

First off, libfetch (which is what fetch(1)) uses) itself DOES NOT
default to using FTP passive mode.  You have to either pass the -p
option to the fetch(1) binary, or you have to set the FTP_PASSIVE_MODE
environment variable (which affects anything using libfetch).

Secondly, the ports framework (not pkg_* tools!), specifically
ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, defines FETCH_ARGS with the -p argument to force
passive mode.  This will be used for things like "make fetch".  It  
*will

not* be used for things like "pkg_add -r" or "pkg_add ftp://...";

The addition of the -p argument to FETCH_ARGS in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
was applied to HEAD on 2006/09/20.  HEAD at that time is what became
FreeBSD 6.2.  Of course, anyone updating their ports tree after that
date would also get the change; I'm just pointing it out so people  
know
what the actual date was when -p was added to the default argument  
list.


Now let's expand a bit on FTP_PASSIVE_MODE, because I'm absolutely  
sure

someone will try to argue "that's also been turned on by default for a
long time"; I know how people are...  :-)

FTP_PASSIVE_MODE being set by default on login shells was induced  
by an

addition to login.conf(5) back in late 2001 (around the time of
RELENG_6).  See revision 1.45 (not 1.44!) of src/etc/login.conf in
cvsweb.

But I'll remind people that login.conf only applies to login shells;
logging in on the console, or logging in to an account via "ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  Most people I know of *do not* SSH into their servers as
root; they SSH in as themselves and use sudo.  Some use su2, and some
use su


Root ssh access is disabled on this machine. I login as a normal  
user, and then use sudo. The only time I use su is when sudo does not  
work (another question for another day!)



Let's examine the behaviours:

$ env | grep FTP
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES

As you can see here, the machine I've SSH'd into as myself does apply
login.conf's defaults.  But...

$ sudo -s
# env | grep FTP
# exit
$ sudo -i
# env | grep FTP
#


H'mmm... yes. This is true on my machine, too.



The above scenario (as root) fails, since the FTP_PASSIVE_MODE
environment variable isn't being handed down from the login shell (my
user account) to the root shell spawned by sudo[1].

su, on the other hand, does it a little differently:

$ su
Password:
# env | grep FTP
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES

And likewise, "su -l" behaves the same way.


Yes... although I must say I'm confused by this behavior... In fact,  
it's the exact opposite of what I'd expect... from the su man pages


 -l  Simulate a full login.  The environment is discarded  
except for
 HOME, SHELL, PATH, TERM, and USER.  HOME and SHELL are  
modified
 as above.  USER is set to the target login.  PATH is  
set to

 ``/bin:/usr/bin''.

So why isn't the FTP environment variable discarded?



The OP did not disclose how he was installing ports.  A lot of users
think that packages == ports, so for all we know, he could be
pkg_add'ing things while using sudo and running into this.


I believe I am using ports. In this case, I had just installed and  
configured PF (the first thing I do, now, when building a new machine.)


I then wanted to install NTP:

cd /usr/ports/net/ntp
make config; make install clean

This failed because the mirrors were not accessible.



If "make fetch" in an actual port is timing out, then he's either  
doing

it on a machine with a ports tree prior to 2006/09/20 (see above), or
his outbound pf rules are so strict that the machine is absurdly
limited.


The machine has Production Release 7.0

My outbound PF rules are fairly loose. Inbound are very tight. This  
is going to be a database server with 1 user. It's going to be  
running one Ruby application that will accept new dat

Re: cannot install from existing UFS thumb drive with sysinstall

2008-10-10 Thread Carl

FBSD1 wrote:

There is a outstanding PR on sysinstall from usb flash drive which is now
over a year old. The sysinstall install program needs to be updated to use
usb drives as the source of the install media. You could always edit the
sysinstall program source code and make a patch to allow usb sysinstall
media.  Other than that you are S.O.L.

I use this script to build my bootable 1GB USB flash drive  [ ... ]


Should I assume you've tried the fdisk/disk label method of mounting 
your flash drive in sysinstall and that it does not actually work either?


I've been using FreeBSD for well over a decade and it seems that 
sysinstall development was all but abandoned a very long time ago.


FWIW, the reason I didn't use your script was that in my case I'm 
actually creating multiple partitions on an 8GB thumb drive and using 
syslinux such that I can boot any one of several live disk images. 
FreeBSD seems to be the one distribution that hasn't clued in that USB 
flash devices are ubiquitous. For my hardware, it also looks like 
FreeBSD may be having problems with SATA DVD drives too. Since the 
motherboard has no IDE controller, USB flash drives may be my only hope 
unless I want to move to another OS.


Carl / K0802647
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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e, the /usr/ports 
collection.) I have to disable PF to do so. Obviously not a great solution.


Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files from


FTP or HTTP.

if you have http proxy like squid in your network do

export http_proxy=http://yourproxy:port
export ftp_proxy=http://yourproxy:port

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Re: gzipping multiple files w/o tarring

2008-10-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar


"gzip *" will do what you want.

When it encounters something that's already gzip'd, it will skip it,
but will emit a warning that it's doing so.

Otherwise, you could use something like:

find -X . \! -name "*.tar.gz" -type f -maxdepth 1 | xargs gzip


i don't understand the difference.

.tar.gz files are already gzip'd :), so no need for second case. it will 
be skipped anyway

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libncurses.so.6 Not Found - How to Get 32 bit Version?

2008-10-10 Thread Drew Tomlinson
First, I must say I love the ports system!!!  It keeps me from suffering 
as I am now.  :)


Anyway, I'm attempting to install a web log analysis software from 
Google named "Urchin".  The installation docs say it's supported on FBSD 
6.2+.  As I am dedicating a machine to this software, I've performed a 
brand new install of 7.1-PRERELEASE.  I'm using the amd64 version on a 
Intel Core 2 Duo processor.


With help from the list, I overcame the first library issue by 
installing the compat6x libraries from ports.  Now the install script is 
complaining that "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libncurses.so.6" 
not found".  I used ldd on the executable the script is attempting to 
run and get this output:


   libncurses.so.6 => not found (0x0)
   libcrypt.so.3 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libcrypt.so.3 (0x280be000)
   libz.so.3 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libz.so.3 (0x280d7000)
   libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libstdc++.so.5 
(0x280e8000)

   libm.so.4 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libm.so.4 (0x281be000)
   libc.so.6 => /usr/local/lib32/compat/libc.so.6 (0x281d4000)

I did search my system and found /usr/local/lib/compat/libncurses.so.6.  
I tried adding a symlink to /usr/local/lib32/compat but then received an 
"...unsupported layout..." error when attempting to run the executable:  
I assume that is because the libncurses.so.6 library is a 64 bit 
version?  I've removed the symlink.


Assuming my assumptions are correct, how can I get a 32 bit 
libncurses.so.6 version on my system?  Or if I'm wrong, what do I need?


Thanks,

Drew


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Re: gzipping multiple files w/o tarring

2008-10-10 Thread Mike Jeays
On October 10, 2008 02:49:44 pm Joe Tseng wrote:
> I'm sure this is easy but googling hasn't gotten me anywhere yet...  I want
> to compress all the files in my directory that don't already have a .gz
> extension.  I want them to be individual compressed files, not part of a
> single .tar.gz file.  Can anyone point me to where I can find how to do
> this?
>
> tia,
>
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"gzip *" will do it.  It leaves out files that already have the .gz extension.
"gunzip *" will put them back the way they were.

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Re: gzipping multiple files w/o tarring

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 02:49:44PM -0400, Joe Tseng wrote:
> 
> I'm sure this is easy but googling hasn't gotten me anywhere yet...  I want 
> to compress all the files in my directory that don't already have a .gz 
> extension.  I want them to be individual compressed files, not part of a 
> single .tar.gz file.  Can anyone point me to where I can find how to do this?

"gzip *" will do what you want.

When it encounters something that's already gzip'd, it will skip it,
but will emit a warning that it's doing so.

Otherwise, you could use something like:

find -X . \! -name "*.tar.gz" -type f -maxdepth 1 | xargs gzip

Which would do the same as "gzip *", but would ignore any files
with a .tar.gz extension.

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gzipping multiple files w/o tarring

2008-10-10 Thread Joe Tseng

I'm sure this is easy but googling hasn't gotten me anywhere yet...  I want to 
compress all the files in my directory that don't already have a .gz extension. 
 I want them to be individual compressed files, not part of a single .tar.gz 
file.  Can anyone point me to where I can find how to do this?

tia,

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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:54:32PM +0100, RW wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:51:16 -0700
> Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:45:04PM -0400, John Almberg wrote:
> > > I just set up a new server with a very restricted PF configuration.
> > > One problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e,
> > > the / usr/ports collection.) I have to disable PF to do so.
> > > Obviously not a great solution.
> > >
> > > Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files
> > > from mirrors? I'm trying to figure out the smallest number of ports
> > > (the TCP/IP kind) that I need to open in my firewall. I don't want
> > > to enable incoming FTP requests, but do want to allow outgoing ftp
> > > requests, I believe.
> > >
> > > Am I on the right track, here?
> > 
> > See the fetch(1) man page.  Try this first:
> > 
> > sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
> > csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true
> 
> passive ftp has been the default for long time, fetch is called
> with the -p option.

Let's give the users some actual detail, not terse one-liners which will
induce more questions/confusion.

First off, libfetch (which is what fetch(1)) uses) itself DOES NOT
default to using FTP passive mode.  You have to either pass the -p
option to the fetch(1) binary, or you have to set the FTP_PASSIVE_MODE
environment variable (which affects anything using libfetch).

Secondly, the ports framework (not pkg_* tools!), specifically
ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, defines FETCH_ARGS with the -p argument to force
passive mode.  This will be used for things like "make fetch".  It *will
not* be used for things like "pkg_add -r" or "pkg_add ftp://...";

The addition of the -p argument to FETCH_ARGS in ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk
was applied to HEAD on 2006/09/20.  HEAD at that time is what became
FreeBSD 6.2.  Of course, anyone updating their ports tree after that
date would also get the change; I'm just pointing it out so people know
what the actual date was when -p was added to the default argument list.

Now let's expand a bit on FTP_PASSIVE_MODE, because I'm absolutely sure
someone will try to argue "that's also been turned on by default for a
long time"; I know how people are...  :-)

FTP_PASSIVE_MODE being set by default on login shells was induced by an
addition to login.conf(5) back in late 2001 (around the time of
RELENG_6).  See revision 1.45 (not 1.44!) of src/etc/login.conf in
cvsweb.

But I'll remind people that login.conf only applies to login shells;
logging in on the console, or logging in to an account via "ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  Most people I know of *do not* SSH into their servers as
root; they SSH in as themselves and use sudo.  Some use su2, and some
use su.

Let's examine the behaviours:

$ env | grep FTP
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES

As you can see here, the machine I've SSH'd into as myself does apply
login.conf's defaults.  But...

$ sudo -s
# env | grep FTP
# exit
$ sudo -i
# env | grep FTP
#

The above scenario (as root) fails, since the FTP_PASSIVE_MODE
environment variable isn't being handed down from the login shell (my
user account) to the root shell spawned by sudo[1].

su, on the other hand, does it a little differently:

$ su
Password:
# env | grep FTP
FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES

And likewise, "su -l" behaves the same way.

The OP did not disclose how he was installing ports.  A lot of users
think that packages == ports, so for all we know, he could be
pkg_add'ing things while using sudo and running into this.

If "make fetch" in an actual port is timing out, then he's either doing
it on a machine with a ports tree prior to 2006/09/20 (see above), or
his outbound pf rules are so strict that the machine is absurdly
limited.

I've advocated in another thread my displeasure for filtering outbound
traffic *solely* because of this exact scenario.  Network admins seem
to think that "oh, HTTP is always going to use port 80", and likewise,
"oh, FTP is always going to use ports 20-21".  Bzzzt.  Nothing stops
a MASTER_SITE from being http://lelele.com:9382/.

[1]: The problem with sudo can be addressed; FTP_PASSIVE_MODE needs to
be added to the env_keep list in the default sudoers file.  I know the
port maintainer, so I'll take this up with him so that users (including
myself) don't keep getting bit by forgetting to set FTP_PASSIVE_MODE
after doing a sudo.

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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:51:16 -0700
Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:45:04PM -0400, John Almberg wrote:
> > I just set up a new server with a very restricted PF configuration.
> > One problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e,
> > the / usr/ports collection.) I have to disable PF to do so.
> > Obviously not a great solution.
> >
> > Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files
> > from mirrors? I'm trying to figure out the smallest number of ports
> > (the TCP/IP kind) that I need to open in my firewall. I don't want
> > to enable incoming FTP requests, but do want to allow outgoing ftp
> > requests, I believe.
> >
> > Am I on the right track, here?
> 
> See the fetch(1) man page.  Try this first:
> 
> sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
> csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true
> 


passive ftp has been the default for long time, fetch is called
with the -p option.

If you have access to an http-proxy that supports ftp requests over
http, fetch can use that. Alternately you can probably avoid ftp
altogether by setting:
 

MASTER_SORT_REGEX?=   ^http:

in make.conf
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Re: irq256 ????

2008-10-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar

irq22: pcm052848  3
irq23: uhci2 ehci1 1  0
cpu0: timer 33503897   1929


irq256: em042054  2


it's MSI interrupt
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Check_CVSUp / PServer - Nagios Plugins?

2008-10-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki


Hey all:

One of the big pitfalls of running a public CVS/CVSup/FTP mirror seems to 
be poor reporting on failed updates.


I'd like add some Nagios monitoring to our project.

For FTP and CVSUP rsyncs, I can have my cron(8)'d update scripts touch(1) 
a file if [ $? = 0 ]; then check them with libexec/nagios/check_file_age 
for mtime/utime.


However, I'd also like to monitor the CVSup and PServer services as well 
at the protocol level.


There do not seem to be any plugins in the public domain.

Ideas:

CVSUp:
  - php/perl/python bindings/libraries to talk cvsup protocol and maybe
query a list of collections, plus the protocol version negotiated?

  - Is there maybe a way to exec() the cvsup(1)/csup(1) client in "list"
mode?  Does the protocol have a list operation?

CVS Pserver:
  - Maybe just do a "cvs log src/Makefile" -- verifies that the protocol
is active.

SSH:
  - Duh

FTP/RSYNC:
  - Yea


Thougths?  Discussion?

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Re: core Dumb during CVSUP

2008-10-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

use csup, but at this stage, i'll wait untill portupgrade has finished to see
if anything changes in that reguards.


Well, you could ktrace(8) the binary and/or rebuild it with debugging 
symbols and bt the coredump ~BAS


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Re: cvsup mirrors

2008-10-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki


Or...contact the maintainer:

http://www.dslreports.com/profile/191119

$ host cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org
cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org is an alias for less.cogeco.net.
less.cogeco.net has address 24.226.6.67

http://less.cogeco.net/

Many broken URLS.

~BAS


On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Michael P. Soulier wrote:


I found this 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS

and it lists one for me in Canada.

cvsup1.ca.freebsd.org

Unfortunately, it doesn't have RELENG_6 on it. cvsup says it's not there.

Does the mirrors list need an update?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: cvsup.uk.freebsd.org down

2008-10-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki



Did it ever come back?

Someone with good BGP views should probably put all of the CVS/FTP/Rsync 
mirrors in Nagios (with something reasonable like a 6 hour check interval) 
and send reports to freebsd-www@ or so.


~BAS

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Paul Macdonald wrote:



I just noticed this cvs server is down

I've switched to cvsup2 which seems fine  for now, I presume any updates to 2 
are not dependent on cvsup.uk.freebsd being up?


thanks
Paul.


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Re: Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:45:04PM -0400, John Almberg wrote:
> I just set up a new server with a very restricted PF configuration. One 
> problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e, the / 
> usr/ports collection.) I have to disable PF to do so. Obviously not a  
> great solution.
>
> Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files from 
> mirrors? I'm trying to figure out the smallest number of ports (the 
> TCP/IP kind) that I need to open in my firewall. I don't want to enable 
> incoming FTP requests, but do want to allow outgoing ftp requests, I 
> believe.
>
> Am I on the right track, here?

See the fetch(1) man page.  Try this first:

sh/bash: export FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=true
csh: setenv FTP_PASSIVE_MODE true

Chances are this will address the problem for you.

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Firewall and FreeBSD ports

2008-10-10 Thread John Almberg
I just set up a new server with a very restricted PF configuration.  
One problem: I can no longer install software with ports (i.e, the / 
usr/ports collection.) I have to disable PF to do so. Obviously not a  
great solution.


Am I correct in guessing that ports uses FTP to grab source files  
from mirrors? I'm trying to figure out the smallest number of ports  
(the TCP/IP kind) that I need to open in my firewall. I don't want to  
enable incoming FTP requests, but do want to allow outgoing ftp  
requests, I believe.


Am I on the right track, here?

Thanks: John

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Re: rc: not working as expected? (round 2)

2008-10-10 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

You can do a dry run as a non root user:

$ rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d* 2>&1 | more

~BAS

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 12:19 -0300, Paul Halliday wrote:
> (I mistakenly sent the last msg before finishing..)
> 
> Or maybe an interpretation issue.
> 
> I have a few startup scripts in rc.d and I am experiencing timing
> issues. i.e. I need xyz to start before abc.
> 
> Within xyz I tried:
> 
> # REQUIRE: abc
> 
> This didn't work so I tried:
> 
> 100.xyz
> 900.abc
> 
> which doesn't appear to work either.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Update System from 6.1 to last 6 Release with NOT generic Kernel...

2008-10-10 Thread Agus
2008/10/10 Agus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/10/9 Agus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2008/10/9 RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:08:42 -0300
>>> Agus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys...

 Just wanted to check a few things before crapping my system..hehehe

 I am planning on updating the system from 6.1 to the last 6.3-RELEASE
 p5 i think it isaccording to the freebsd-update.sh...

 I am plannin on doing it with this tool...but my main concern is the
 modified kernel and the ports...
>>>
>>> You can't use freebsd-update on a modified kernel.
>>>
>>> Ports can be left unchanged unless you change the  major version and go
>>> to 7.
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>>
>> Ohhthanks...
>>
>> But in the middle of freebsd-update it says to update the kernel and
>> rebuild it.how should i update the kernelor when it reboots
>> and the /usr/src files have changed; i can see the new GENERIC
>> filei have to rebuild it from that new modified GENERIC, so that i
>> custom it, and build the kernel from there?
>>
>> Thanks mate!
>> Cheers,
>> Agustin
>>

 OK... I think i managed to do itat least the uname is showing the
 6.3-RELEASE p5, running my custom kernel

 I think i am missing to update the installed ports, but they are
 working ok, so i will do it later

 The thing was that after the freebsd-update install it wasnt taking
 the new rel
 it was cause i rebuild the kernel earlier than when the /usr/src files
 have been updated by the update
 when i rebooted they were updated so i rebuild my kernel according to
 the new GENERIC and reboot and all was OK :)

 Cheers and any doubrs just ask
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rc: not working as expected?

2008-10-10 Thread Paul Halliday
Or maybe an interpretation issue.

I have a few startup scripts in rc.d and I am experiencing timing
issues. i.e. I need xyz to start before abc.

Within xyz I tried:
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Re: rc: not working as expected? (round 2)

2008-10-10 Thread Greg Larkin
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Paul Halliday wrote:
> (I mistakenly sent the last msg before finishing..)
> 
> Or maybe an interpretation issue.
> 
> I have a few startup scripts in rc.d and I am experiencing timing
> issues. i.e. I need xyz to start before abc.
> 
> Within xyz I tried:
> 
> # REQUIRE: abc
> 
> This didn't work so I tried:
> 
> 100.xyz
> 900.abc
> 
> which doesn't appear to work either.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks.

Hi Paul,

You may be using "REQUIRE: abc" in one script, but have you placed a
corresponding "PROVIDE: abc" in another script?

I also use rcorder to print the order in which my rc.d scripts will be
loaded:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rcorder&sourceid=opensearch.
Check /etc/rc to see how rcorder is invoked at various times during bootup.

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Re: rc: not working as expected? (round 2)

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:19:21PM -0300, Paul Halliday wrote:
> (I mistakenly sent the last msg before finishing..)
> 
> Or maybe an interpretation issue.
> 
> I have a few startup scripts in rc.d and I am experiencing timing
> issues. i.e. I need xyz to start before abc.
> 
> Within xyz I tried:
> 
> # REQUIRE: abc
> 
> This didn't work so I tried:
> 
> 100.xyz
> 900.abc
> which doesn't appear to work either.
> 
> What am I missing?

The answer is probably in the rcorder(8) or rc(8) man pages.

I'm betting you need to use the "BEFORE" clause, and the string you need
to match on is whatever one (or more) of the "PROVIDE" clauses are in
the script which you want to start first.

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rc: not working as expected? (round 2)

2008-10-10 Thread Paul Halliday
(I mistakenly sent the last msg before finishing..)

Or maybe an interpretation issue.

I have a few startup scripts in rc.d and I am experiencing timing
issues. i.e. I need xyz to start before abc.

Within xyz I tried:

# REQUIRE: abc

This didn't work so I tried:

100.xyz
900.abc

which doesn't appear to work either.

What am I missing?

Thanks.
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Re: has anyone actually received a bsdmag ? -- SOLVED

2008-10-10 Thread Craig Butler
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:42 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 08:43:29AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote:
> > 
> > The BSDMag website mentioned that it would be available at Barnes & Noble.
> > I couldn't find it there; but I found it at Borders bookstores.
> 
> I've seen a copy at Barnes & Noble, but I'm more concerned about the fact
> that Craig B subscribed and hasn't received an issue yet.
> 

Hi Guys,

I now have a copys of both issues of the BSD Mag...  The communications
where good and problems where rectified very quickly and professionally.
Second set of magazines where delivered within a week with the correct
address.

Am now a happy bunny :D

If anybody finds them self in the same situation I would recommend
emailing Karolina directly... she has her finger on the pulse over
there.

P.S. Brilliant mag !

Cheers

Craig B



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RE: Subject: Xorg/kde startup errors

2008-10-10 Thread Desmond Chapman

"Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:16:52 +0800
From: "FBSD1" 
Subject: Xorg/kde startup errors
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"
 
I am new user to xorg/kde.
Installed xorg and kde using port system. Followed instructions in handbook
for Freebsd 7.0
The following is the startx log from when I enter startx command. Have no
idea what is wrong since I expected the xorg and kde port to be completely
functional. Kde seems to run ok except for all the repeating warnings about
missing mimetypes and the invalid Window parameter error for every screen I
navigate through using KDE.
 
Any help is welcomed
 
 
 
Script started on Tue Oct  7 19:13:25 2008
# /root>startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.1236
 
 
X.Org X Server 1.4.0
Release Date: 5 September 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE i386
Current Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p4 #0:
Tue Sep  2 19:32:35 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
Build Date: 13 February 2008  05:50:12PM
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Oct  7 19:13:31 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/zip'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-7z'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-7z'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING:
'/usr/local/share/applications/kde/kpovmodeler.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'KPovModeler/Document'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kfile_ooo.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.global'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kfile_ooo.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.math'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kchartpart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.chart-template'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/firefox.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/mml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/kvoctrain.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-kvoctrain'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/kvoctrain.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-kvtml'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '.hidden/krita_magick.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-xcf'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/kmid.desktop'
specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'audio/midi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kformulapart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.formula-template'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ksvgplugin.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/svg'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/local/share/applications/kde/kexi.desktop

RE: cannot install from existing UFS thumb drive with sysinstall

2008-10-10 Thread FBSD1
There is a outstanding PR on sysinstall from usb flash drive which is now
over a year old. The sysinstall install program needs to be updated to use
usb drives as the source of the install media. You could always edit the
sysinstall program source code and make a patch to allow usb sysinstall
media.  Other than that you are S.O.L.

I use this script to build my bootable 1GB USB flash drive

#!/bin/sh
#Purpose = Use to transfer the FreeBSD install cd1 to
#  a bootable 1GB USB flash drive so it can be used to install from.
#  First fetch the FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso to your
#  hard drive /usr. Then execute this script from the command line
# fbsd2usb /usr/6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso /usr/6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.img
# Change system bios to boot from USB-dd and away you go.

# NOTE: This script has to be run from root and your 1GB USB flash drive
#   has to be plugged in before running this script.

# On the command line enter fbsd2usb iso-path img-path

# You can set some variables here. Edit them to fit your needs.

# Set serial variable to 0 if you don't want serial console at all,
# 1 if you want comconsole and 2 if you want comconsole and vidconsole
serial=0

set -u

if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then
echo "Usage: $0 source-iso-path output-img-path"
exit 1
fi

isoimage=$1; shift
imgoutfile=$1; shift

# Temp  directory to be used later
#export tmpdir=$(mktemp -d -t fbsdmount)
export tmpdir=$(mktemp -d /usr/fbsdmount)

export isodev=$(mdconfig -a -t vnode -f ${isoimage})

ISOSIZE=$(du -k ${isoimage} | awk '{print $1}')
SECTS=$((($ISOSIZE + ($ISOSIZE/5))*4))
#SECTS=$((($ISOSIZE + ($ISOSIZE/5))*2))

echo " "
echo "### Initializing image File started ###"
echo "### This will take about 4 minutes ###"
date
dd if=/dev/zero of=${imgoutfile} count=${SECTS}
echo "### Initializing image File completed ###"
date

echo " "
ls -l ${imgoutfile}
export imgdev=$(mdconfig -a -t vnode -f ${imgoutfile})

bsdlabel -w -B ${imgdev}
newfs -O1 /dev/${imgdev}a

mkdir -p ${tmpdir}/iso ${tmpdir}/img

mount -t cd9660 /dev/${isodev} ${tmpdir}/iso
mount /dev/${imgdev}a ${tmpdir}/img

echo " "
echo "### Started Copying files to the image now ###"
echo "### This will take about 15 minutes ###"
date

( cd ${tmpdir}/iso && find . -print -depth | cpio -dump ${tmpdir}/img )

echo "### Completed Copying files to the image ###"
date

if [ ${serial} -eq 2 ]; then
echo "-D" > ${tmpdir}/img/boot.config
echo 'console="comconsole, vidconsole"' >>
${tmpdir}/img/boot/loader.conf
elif [ ${serial} -eq 1 ]; then
echo "-h" > ${tmpdir}/img/boot.config
echo 'console="comconsole"' >> ${tmpdir}/img/boot/loader.conf
fi

echo " "
echo "### Started writing image to flash drive now ###"
echo "### This will take about 30 minutes ###"
date
dd if=${imgoutfile} of=/dev/da0 bs=1m
echo "### Completed writing image to flash drive at ###"
date

cleanup() {
umount ${tmpdir}/iso
mdconfig -d -u ${isodev}
umount ${tmpdir}/img
mdconfig -d -u ${imgdev}
rm -rf ${tmpdir}
}

cleanup

ls -lh ${imgoutfile}

echo "### Script finished ###"



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carl Voth
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 6:52 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: cannot install from existing UFS thumb drive with sysinstall

Is there no one out there that can help?

I've dug into NFS a little more and that does not appear to support
mounting a local filesystem under sysinstall.

In the following thread, Richard Tobin makes an assertion that suggests
that I might be able to mount my thumb drive's existing UFS partition in
the disk labelling step.

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/2004-10/0920
.html
[ http://tinyurl.com/3mknq7 ]

The first problem I ran into was that there is no way to add a second
drive (ie. target drive is SATA hard disk, thumb drive is install drive)
to the disk labelling step. The only way that that can be achieved is by
first adding it to the fdisk partitioning step. I'm willing to believe
that *maybe* there's no risk to my thumb drive in rewriting it's disk
label if I'm very careful not to newfs it. But nothing about the fdisk
partition editor gives me a sense that it will hold off of rewriting my
thumb drive's slice table even though I'm not trying to change anything.
It just seems perverse to have to reslice and relabel just to mount an
existing filesystem. If the only way one can mount a local filesystem in
sysinstall is using the disk label editor, can someone explain to me the
actual consequences and risks of this procedure? I did not proceed to
Write or Commit in this little experiment yet because of the unknown risks.

I have to say that I cannot believe how horribly unfriendly sysinstall
is for anyone wanting to use a USB thumb drive as an install medium. In
fact, it's looking totally unusable.

Clearly sysinstall is utilizing 'mount' functionality for it's own
purposes. Surely there'

Re: cannot install from existing UFS thumb drive with sysinstall

2008-10-10 Thread Carl Voth

Is there no one out there that can help?

I've dug into NFS a little more and that does not appear to support 
mounting a local filesystem under sysinstall.


In the following thread, Richard Tobin makes an assertion that suggests 
that I might be able to mount my thumb drive's existing UFS partition in 
the disk labelling step.


http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/2004-10/0920.html
[ http://tinyurl.com/3mknq7 ]

The first problem I ran into was that there is no way to add a second 
drive (ie. target drive is SATA hard disk, thumb drive is install drive) 
to the disk labelling step. The only way that that can be achieved is by 
first adding it to the fdisk partitioning step. I'm willing to believe 
that *maybe* there's no risk to my thumb drive in rewriting it's disk 
label if I'm very careful not to newfs it. But nothing about the fdisk 
partition editor gives me a sense that it will hold off of rewriting my 
thumb drive's slice table even though I'm not trying to change anything. 
It just seems perverse to have to reslice and relabel just to mount an 
existing filesystem. If the only way one can mount a local filesystem in 
sysinstall is using the disk label editor, can someone explain to me the 
actual consequences and risks of this procedure? I did not proceed to 
Write or Commit in this little experiment yet because of the unknown risks.


I have to say that I cannot believe how horribly unfriendly sysinstall 
is for anyone wanting to use a USB thumb drive as an install medium. In 
fact, it's looking totally unusable.


Clearly sysinstall is utilizing 'mount' functionality for it's own 
purposes. Surely there's some way for me to access it too?!?


Carl / K0802647
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Re: What is a recommended soundcard for FreeBSD?

2008-10-10 Thread Ricardo Jesus

Aniruddha wrote:

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:46 +0200, Patrick Lamaizière wrote:
  

Le Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:42:43 +0200,
Aniruddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :



Because of the problems with my onboard Intel HDA audio chip I plan to
buy a soundcard that is supported by FreeBSD.
  

There is a new hda driver in current, may be you can try it on
RELENG_7?

See 
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-New-snd_hda-driver-came-in.-p19499206.html


Good luck!

Regards.




Thanks I'll check it out.v In the meantime I'm real curious about
FreeBSD user experience with X-fi :)


  

Hi,

I don't think the X-fi cards are supported in FreeBSD but I do know that 
in Linux they aren't.


Personally, I have a Creative Audigy 4 and it works great. The 
snd_emu10kx driver provides support for Creative SoundBlaster Live! and 
Audigy sound cards.


Best regards.
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:07:43PM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
>
>> Firstly, I see a periodic(8) job that DOES use find -sx, which means
>> your attempt to track it down was faulty, and your syntax should have
>> been "find -sx /" not "find / -sx".  See here:
>>
>> /etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid:   find -sx $MP /dev/null -type f \
>>   
> Thanks for clearing that out. :-) I did not remember what it was and  
> failed to find it.

I believe the reason you saw this process still running at 8-9 in the
morning was because of the slowdown induced by lack of dirhash memory.
The periodic job runs every day, usually between 0130 and 0200, so
the process had been sitting there processing its heart out for 6-7
hours.

Since you've tuned the dirhash stuff, I'm betting this periodic job will
run much more quickly.

>> $MP == mountpoint, e.g. /, /var, or any other mounted filesystem.
>>
>> So, what you saw was the periodic check looking for setuid-root
>> binaries.
>>
>> Secondly, the kernel does not spawn userland processes like find(1).
>>
>> Thirdly, dirmem and dirmem_max are *pure* kernel things.  What they do
>> is control the amount of memory used for directory structure caching;
>> rather than continually hit the disk every time and spend all that time
>> handling directory contents, the kernel can cache previously-fetched
>> contents in memory
> Now it stays this value constantly:
>
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 44306131
>
> I think it is now caching everything.
>
> Thank you again, and sorry for the dumb questions.

You asked absolutely *no* dumb questions, especially given the
circumstances!  Do not be ashamed, you did the right thing.  :-)

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy



Firstly, I see a periodic(8) job that DOES use find -sx, which means
your attempt to track it down was faulty, and your syntax should have
been "find -sx /" not "find / -sx".  See here:

/etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid:   find -sx $MP /dev/null -type f \
  
Thanks for clearing that out. :-) I did not remember what it was and 
failed to find it.

$MP == mountpoint, e.g. /, /var, or any other mounted filesystem.

So, what you saw was the periodic check looking for setuid-root
binaries.

Secondly, the kernel does not spawn userland processes like find(1).

Thirdly, dirmem and dirmem_max are *pure* kernel things.  What they do
is control the amount of memory used for directory structure caching;
rather than continually hit the disk every time and spend all that time
handling directory contents, the kernel can cache previously-fetched
contents in memory

Now it stays this value constantly:

vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 44306131

I think it is now caching everything.

Thank you again, and sorry for the dumb questions.

  Laszlo




 
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:43:39AM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
>
 If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the 
 value of vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 

 # sysctl -a | grep dirhash
 
>>> shopzeus# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
>>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
>>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 2095818
>>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 2097152
>>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560
>>>
>>> 
 Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:
 
>>> All right. It is close to it. Which one should I increase? I put this 
>>>  into /etc/sysctl.conf:
>>>
>>>
>>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=8228608
>>>
>>> Would it be scufficient?
>>> 
>>
>> We don't know, and can't tell you.  You'll have to monitor
>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem occasionally to see if you start to reach
>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem.
>>
>> I have a tendency to use vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=16777216, which is
>> 16384*1024 (16MBytes).
>>
>> I'm not fully confident this is what's causing your problem, but it's
>> definitely a recommendation by Johan.
>>   
> Thank you very much! Probably you are right. Our users use shared IMAP  
> folders and sometimes they keep ten thousands of messages in one folder.  
> I have increased dirhash_maxmem to 64MB and see what happens.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot play with the hardware because it is in a server  
> park, and it must be up 99.99% on workdays.
>
> I hope dirhash will solve the problem. I'm setting this to [SOLVED] and  
> come back if it happens again. (Maybe on monday?)
>
> By the way, there is nothing in /etc/periodic that would execute "find /  
> -sx". Can somebody explain what is this for, and why it was started by  
> root? Is it being used instead for enumerating files in a directory,  
> when dir hash is full?

Firstly, I see a periodic(8) job that DOES use find -sx, which means
your attempt to track it down was faulty, and your syntax should have
been "find -sx /" not "find / -sx".  See here:

/etc/periodic/security/100.chksetuid:   find -sx $MP /dev/null -type f \

$MP == mountpoint, e.g. /, /var, or any other mounted filesystem.

So, what you saw was the periodic check looking for setuid-root
binaries.

Secondly, the kernel does not spawn userland processes like find(1).

Thirdly, dirmem and dirmem_max are *pure* kernel things.  What they do
is control the amount of memory used for directory structure caching;
rather than continually hit the disk every time and spend all that time
handling directory contents, the kernel can cache previously-fetched
contents in memory.

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy


  
Thank you very much! Probably you are right. Our users use shared IMAP 
folders and sometimes they keep ten thousands of messages in one 
folder. I have increased dirhash_maxmem to 64MB and see what happens.


Unfortunately, I cannot play with the hardware because it is in a 
server park, and it must be up 99.99% on workdays.


I hope dirhash will solve the problem. I'm setting this to [SOLVED] 
and come back if it happens again. (Maybe on monday?)


By the way, there is nothing in /etc/periodic that would execute "find 
/ -sx". Can somebody explain what is this for, and why it was started 
by root? Is it being used instead for enumerating files in a 
directory, when dir hash is full?


I'm starting to believe that this was the problem. Within an hour, I see 
this:


shopzeus# sysctl vfs.ufs
vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 33708867
vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 134217728
vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560

Went up to 32MB!

  L

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Converting RSA to PKSC#15

2008-10-10 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I would like to install my own certificates for several APC UPS.

I already generated the key file and the csr, got the csr signed and
get a crt.

But APC wants a file in format PKSC#15 that is bundled containing the
key and the crt (and the ca ?).

Anyway, they (APC) provide the tool to build the bundled file,
provided that the key comes in pksc#15 format.

I could start the generation of key and csr again, but then I would
have to get these new csr signed by the ca, which I would prefer to
avoid.

So is there a way, having the rsa key file to convert it into a
pksc#15 file?

Best regards

Olivier
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[SOLVED] Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy


If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the value of 
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 


# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
  
  

shopzeus# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 2095818
vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 2097152
vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560



Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:
  
  
All right. It is close to it. Which one should I increase? I put this  
into /etc/sysctl.conf:



vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=8228608

Would it be scufficient?



We don't know, and can't tell you.  You'll have to monitor
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem occasionally to see if you start to reach
vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem.

I have a tendency to use vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=16777216, which is
16384*1024 (16MBytes).

I'm not fully confident this is what's causing your problem, but it's
definitely a recommendation by Johan.
  
Thank you very much! Probably you are right. Our users use shared IMAP 
folders and sometimes they keep ten thousands of messages in one folder. 
I have increased dirhash_maxmem to 64MB and see what happens.


Unfortunately, I cannot play with the hardware because it is in a server 
park, and it must be up 99.99% on workdays.


I hope dirhash will solve the problem. I'm setting this to [SOLVED] and 
come back if it happens again. (Maybe on monday?)


By the way, there is nothing in /etc/periodic that would execute "find / 
-sx". Can somebody explain what is this for, and why it was started by 
root? Is it being used instead for enumerating files in a directory, 
when dir hash is full?


Thanks,

  Laszo
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RE: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Johan Hendriks


>Johan Hendriks írta:
>> If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the value of 
>> >vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 
>>
>> # sysctl -a | grep dirhash
>>   
>shopzeus# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
>vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
>vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 2095818
>vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 2097152
>vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560

>> Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:
>>   
>All right. It is close to it. Which one should I increase? I put this 
>into /etc/sysctl.conf:


>vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=8228608


>Would it be scufficient?

>Thanks,

>   Laszlo

vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem= is the value to adjust.

Mine is at 12582912. this happens on Mailservers 'which has a lot of directorys 
for the mail.


The value depends on how many directory's there are on your system.
Keep track on the value and when it hits the limit again increase the limit 
until it stays under the limit.

It can take a while to reach the limit again.

Regards,
Johan Hendriks
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Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:13:00AM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
> Johan Hendriks írta:
>> If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the value of 
>> vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 
>>
>> # sysctl -a | grep dirhash
>>   
> shopzeus# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 2095818
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 2097152
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560
>
>> Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:
>>   
> All right. It is close to it. Which one should I increase? I put this  
> into /etc/sysctl.conf:
>
>
> vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=8228608
>
> Would it be scufficient?

We don't know, and can't tell you.  You'll have to monitor
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem occasionally to see if you start to reach
vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem.

I have a tendency to use vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=16777216, which is
16384*1024 (16MBytes).

I'm not fully confident this is what's causing your problem, but it's
definitely a recommendation by Johan.

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Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy

Johan Hendriks írta:
If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the value of vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 


# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
  

shopzeus# sysctl -a | grep dirhash
vfs.ufs.dirhash_docheck: 0
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 2095818
vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem: 2097152
vfs.ufs.dirhash_minsize: 2560


Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:
  
All right. It is close to it. Which one should I increase? I put this 
into /etc/sysctl.conf:



vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem=8228608


Would it be scufficient?

Thanks,

  Laszlo



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Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy



This could be a periodic job (since you said this happens daily) which
runs early in the morning (2-3am?) and for some reason isn't finishing
in a timely manner.  You haven't provided any actual ps -auxwww
data, so we can't easily discern if it's a periodic job or something
amiss on your system (for all we know the system could be compromised).
  

I wanted to, but since I could not log in...

I'm also curious what controller your SCSI disks are attached to.  Can
you provide that information?  

ARECA 1680 ix 12
dmesg would be useful.  

Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Mon Oct  6 07:50:31 EDT 2008
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHOPZEUS
module_register: module g_journal already exists!
Module g_journal failed to register: 17
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5420  @ 2.50GHz (2508.72-MHz 
K8-class CPU)

 Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x10676  Stepping = 6
 
Features=0xbfebfbff
 
Features2=0xce3bd>

 AMD Features=0x20100800
 AMD Features2=0x1
 Cores per package: 4
usable memory = 8571047936 (8173 MB)
avail memory  = 8260050944 (7877 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
cpu4 (AP): APIC ID:  4
cpu5 (AP): APIC ID:  5
cpu6 (AP): APIC ID:  6
cpu7 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on 
acpi0

Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
acpi_button0:  on acpi0
acpi_button1:  on acpi0
pcib0:  port 0xca2,0xca3,0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pcib2:  irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
pci2:  on pcib2
pcib3:  irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
pci3:  on pcib3
pcib4:  irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci2
pci4:  on pcib4
em0:  port 0x2020-0x203f mem 
0xb882-0xb883,0xb840-0xb87f irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4

em0: Using MSI interrupt
em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:81:99:d0
em1:  port 0x2000-0x201f mem 
0xb880-0xb881,0xb800-0xb83f irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci4

em1: Using MSI interrupt
em1: [FILTER]
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:81:99:d1
pcib5:  at device 0.3 on pci1
pci5:  on pcib5
pcib6:  at device 3.0 on pci0
pci6:  on pcib6
pcib7:  at device 4.0 on pci0
pci7:  on pcib7
pcib8:  at device 5.0 on pci0
pci8:  on pcib8
pcib9:  at device 6.0 on pci0
pci9:  on pcib9
pcib10:  at device 7.0 on pci0
pci10:  on pcib10
pci0:  at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
pcib11:  irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci11:  on pcib11
arcmsr0:  mem 0xb8b0-0xb8b01fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci11
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2007-10-07
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.45 2008-04-29
arcmsr0: [ITHREAD]
uhci0:  port 
0x3080-0x309f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0

uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0:  on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 
0x3060-0x307f irq 22 at device 29.1 on pci0

uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1:  on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2:  port 
0x3040-0x305f irq 23 at device 29.2 on pci0

uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
usb2:  on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2:  on usb2
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3:  port 
0x3020-0x303f irq 22 at device 29.3 on pci0

uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci3: [ITHREAD]
usb3:  on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3:  on usb3
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0:  mem 0xb8c00400-0xb8c007ff irq 
23 at device 29.7 on pci0

ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4:  on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4:  on usb4
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
pcib12:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci12:  on pcib12
vgapci0:  port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 
0xb000-0xb7ff,0xb8a0-0xb8a0 irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci12

isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x30b0-0x30bf irq 20 at device 31.1 
on pci0

ata0:  on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1:  on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1:  port 
0x30c8-0x30cf,0x30e4-0x30e7,0x30c0-0x30c7,0x30e0-0x30e3,0x30a0-0x30af 
mem 0xb8c0-0xb8c003ff i

Re: Wireless Card - EDIMAX EW-7728In

2008-10-10 Thread Aniruddha
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 22:00 -0400, Justin Mazzi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know if FreeBSD has support for this card? I did some  
> searching around and looks like this card is based on the RALink  
> RT2860 chip. OpenBSD has drivers listed for it on this page:
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org.ua/i386.html
> Section: "Ralink Technology IEEE 802.11a/b/g PCI adapters (ral),  
> including: (B) (C)"
> 
> If anyone has been able to get this card working, or knows how I could  
> get it working, please let me know. Your help is greatly appreciated.  
> Thanks!
> 

I can't find it here:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#WLAN

Therefor I don't think it will work.


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Re: Sysinstall

2008-10-10 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:32:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I have the following prblem with sysinstall: when I run sysinstall inside  
> an xterm I find it very difficult to read the yellow font on the gray  
> background, which appears very light on my laptop LCD and also on an Eizo  
> LCD. Strangely, the gray is much darker if I run sysinstall from the  
> console outside X. Is there a way to make the gray darker when sysinstall  
> is run inside an xterm?
> 
> I'm running fbsd 7.
> 
> Best regards,
> Boris

Put this mapping in ~/.Xdefaults:

XTerm*VT100*translations: #override \
F6 : set-reverse-video(toggle)

Then:

$ xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults

Then press F6 to get a clearer sysinstall.


Regards,

-- 

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RE: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Johan Hendriks
If find / -sx is running and is consuming all CPU, what is the value of 
vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: 

# sysctl -a | grep dirhash

Make sure vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem: is not close to vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem:

Regards,
Johan Hendriks
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Re: 7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:40:01AM +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
>  Hi,
>
> A computer hangs every day in the morning at a specific time, between 8  
> AM and 9 AM. We can ping it. Apparently the console works, also gdm  
> works on it, but we are not able to login at all. ssh accepts  
> connections, but the authentication does not continue (e.g. ssh client  
> waits for the server forever...)
>
> I even cannot login on the console as "root" because it accepts the user  
> name, but does not ask for the password!
>
> Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del on the console waits for about one or two minutes,  
> then I see this on the screen:
>
> http://www.imghype.com/viewer.php?imgdata=9d95ee9d1fstrange_shutdown.jpg
>
> Here is /var/log/messages just before the crash:
>
> Oct 10 01:52:47 shopzeus postgres[81114]: [5-1] WARNING:  nonstandard  
> use of escape in a string literal at character 193
> Oct 10 01:52:47 shopzeus postgres[81114]: [5-2] HINT:  Use the escape  
> string syntax for escapes, e.g., E'\r\n'.
> Oct 10 01:57:11 shopzeus postgres[84132]: [5-1] WARNING:  nonstandard  
> use of escape in a string literal at character 188
> Oct 10 01:57:11 shopzeus postgres[84132]: [5-2] HINT:  Use the escape  
> string syntax for escapes, e.g., E'\r\n'.
> Oct 10 02:00:01 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[86167]: fatal: the  
> Postfix mail system is already running
> Oct 10 02:30:00 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[7240]: fatal: the  
> Postfix mail system is already running
> Oct 10 03:00:00 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[27437]: fatal: the  
> Postfix mail system is already running
> Oct 10 04:07:54 shopzeus rc.shutdown: 30 second watchdog timeout  
> expired. Shutdown terminated.
> Oct 10 04:09:16 shopzeus postgres[30455]: [5-1] FATAL:  terminating  
> connection due to administrator command
> Oct 10 04:09:17 shopzeus syslogd: exiting on signal 15
> Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
> Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD  
> Project.
> Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,  
> 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>
> After rebooting the machine, nothing happens until the next day. Here  
> are some possible problems I can think of:
>
> #1. We are using gjournal. It might be that the journal size is too  
> small. Although I do not think this is the case, because we have 40GB  
> journal space for each journaled partition below (except for /home, it  
> has 10GB only, but /home is rarely used)
>
> Filesystem  1G-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/da0s1a 91 714%/
> devfs   00 0   100%/dev
> /dev/da0s1f.journal   140   12   117 9%/home
> /dev/da0s2d.journal   106889 8%/pgdata0
> /dev/da0s1d29026 0%/tmp
> /dev/da0s2e.journal   585   74   46414%/usr
> /dev/da0s1e.journal   145   17   11613%/var
> /dev/da1s1d.journal   4160   383 0%/data
>
> Is it possible that gjournal is hanging up the machine?
>
> #2. Yesterday when I logged in in the morning, I saw a process running  
> under root, it was something like " find / -sx ..." and then something.  
> I don't remember but it was scanning the whole filesystem. It was using  
> 100% cpu and 100% disk I/O. I wonder if that might be freezing the  
> computer. I do not know how to disable this maintenance process but I  
> should. After killing this process, the system worked fine. (We have  
> zillions of files on the disks, running "find / ..." is a bad idea.)

This could be a periodic job (since you said this happens daily) which
runs early in the morning (2-3am?) and for some reason isn't finishing
in a timely manner.  You haven't provided any actual ps -auxwww
data, so we can't easily discern if it's a periodic job or something
amiss on your system (for all we know the system could be compromised).

I'm also curious what controller your SCSI disks are attached to.  Can
you provide that information?  dmesg would be useful.  I remember
hearing some reports about 3Ware controllers locking up due to firmware
problems which were later fixed via a f/w upgrade.

> #3. In the screenshot above, you can see that the IMAP server "dovecot"  
> was terminated on signal 11. Can it be the problem? I can't believe that  
> dovecot could freeze the whole system.
>
> #4. Hardware error. I don't think this is the case since the computer  
> freezes at the same time, every day, so it is more likely a software  
> problem.

My vote is on a hardware problem.  The watchdog timeout you see
indicates a portion of the system is locking up hard.  The sig 11 would
indicate a sudden segfault, which if unexpected, often indicates bad
memory or motherboard.

I would recommend you start down the hardware path.  Replace the RAM and
the mainboard, and see what happens.

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7.1 hangs, shutdown terminated

2008-10-10 Thread Laszlo Nagy

 Hi,

A computer hangs every day in the morning at a specific time, between 8 
AM and 9 AM. We can ping it. Apparently the console works, also gdm 
works on it, but we are not able to login at all. ssh accepts 
connections, but the authentication does not continue (e.g. ssh client 
waits for the server forever...)


I even cannot login on the console as "root" because it accepts the user 
name, but does not ask for the password!


Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del on the console waits for about one or two minutes, 
then I see this on the screen:


http://www.imghype.com/viewer.php?imgdata=9d95ee9d1fstrange_shutdown.jpg

Here is /var/log/messages just before the crash:

Oct 10 01:52:47 shopzeus postgres[81114]: [5-1] WARNING:  nonstandard 
use of escape in a string literal at character 193
Oct 10 01:52:47 shopzeus postgres[81114]: [5-2] HINT:  Use the escape 
string syntax for escapes, e.g., E'\r\n'.
Oct 10 01:57:11 shopzeus postgres[84132]: [5-1] WARNING:  nonstandard 
use of escape in a string literal at character 188
Oct 10 01:57:11 shopzeus postgres[84132]: [5-2] HINT:  Use the escape 
string syntax for escapes, e.g., E'\r\n'.
Oct 10 02:00:01 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[86167]: fatal: the 
Postfix mail system is already running
Oct 10 02:30:00 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[7240]: fatal: the 
Postfix mail system is already running
Oct 10 03:00:00 shopzeus postfix/postfix-script[27437]: fatal: the 
Postfix mail system is already running
Oct 10 04:07:54 shopzeus rc.shutdown: 30 second watchdog timeout 
expired. Shutdown terminated.
Oct 10 04:09:16 shopzeus postgres[30455]: [5-1] FATAL:  terminating 
connection due to administrator command

Oct 10 04:09:17 shopzeus syslogd: exiting on signal 15
Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD 
Project.
Oct 10 04:11:31 shopzeus kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 
1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994


After rebooting the machine, nothing happens until the next day. Here 
are some possible problems I can think of:


#1. We are using gjournal. It might be that the journal size is too 
small. Although I do not think this is the case, because we have 40GB 
journal space for each journaled partition below (except for /home, it 
has 10GB only, but /home is rarely used)


Filesystem  1G-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a 91 714%/
devfs   00 0   100%/dev
/dev/da0s1f.journal   140   12   117 9%/home
/dev/da0s2d.journal   106889 8%/pgdata0
/dev/da0s1d29026 0%/tmp
/dev/da0s2e.journal   585   74   46414%/usr
/dev/da0s1e.journal   145   17   11613%/var
/dev/da1s1d.journal   4160   383 0%/data

Is it possible that gjournal is hanging up the machine?

#2. Yesterday when I logged in in the morning, I saw a process running 
under root, it was something like " find / -sx ..." and then something. 
I don't remember but it was scanning the whole filesystem. It was using 
100% cpu and 100% disk I/O. I wonder if that might be freezing the 
computer. I do not know how to disable this maintenance process but I 
should. After killing this process, the system worked fine. (We have 
zillions of files on the disks, running "find / ..." is a bad idea.)


#3. In the screenshot above, you can see that the IMAP server "dovecot" 
was terminated on signal 11. Can it be the problem? I can't believe that 
dovecot could freeze the whole system.


#4. Hardware error. I don't think this is the case since the computer 
freezes at the same time, every day, so it is more likely a software 
problem.


Any thoughts what is causing this?

uname -a:

FreeBSD shopzeus.com 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Mon Oct  
6 07:50:31 EDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHOPZEUS  amd64



Thank you,

  Laszlo

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RE: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Odhiambo, you hit the nail on the head.  Glad to see you
caught on.

Chad, please google up the definition of "passive-agressive"
behavior and look at yourself in a mirror.  If you don't get
it, reread the definition and look in the mirror again.  And
in the future, please don't engage in it.  You don't want
to become known for this.

As for the rest of you, this is a classic Bikeshed discussion.
I'm amazed that so many people fell for it.  I guess the
collapse of the US financial system has put a crimp on your
spending on new computers and your all bored of your old
hardware.

Chad's post was worth a read.  It wasn't worth a response,
espically escalated to the rediculousness that some have
been.  Did anyone bother to think that any admin with
2 years uptime on a system probably has some decent coin
into the environment (think, UPS power here) and more like
as not knows what they are doing?

Chances that your going to get 2 years of uptime on a system
plugged into a consumer-grade UPS in a private residence are
lower than the chances that Jamie Lynn Spears is going to be
offered the job of spokesperson for the National Abstinence
Education Association.  It has nothing to do with how the
server is configured and everything to do with the environment
the server is in.

Ted

> -Original Message-
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> Washington
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:56 AM
> To: User Questions
> Cc: Chad Marshall; Jon Radel
> Subject: Re: uptime 2 years!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/10/9 Jon Radel:
> >>
> >> Dear Mr. Marshall:
> >>
> >> I'm terribly sorry that our representatives in charge of 
> answering emails
> >> have been rude to you.  I've just fired the lot of them, 
> particularly as we
> >> can't afford to keep then on anymore seeing as how your 
> generous donations
> >> are now in jeopardy.
> >
> > How is that supposed to be helpful?
> >
> >> I will ask, however, that in the future you constrain your e-mail to
> >> freebsd-questions to either questions or answers to them, so as to not
> >> inflame our more excitable representatives once we hire a new, 
> much reduced,
> >> batch of them.
> >
> > Can you follow your own advice?
> >
> > --
> > Zbigniew Szalbot
> 
> I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it
> will turn into flames.  I bet all my US$:-)
> 
> -- 
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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-10 Thread Shakul M Hameed
Thanks, Jeremy. For letting me know the dis-advantages  softlinking in long 
run.  

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:40:46AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:40:22PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > I think its not a very bad idea, unless your app is dependent on a routine 
> > which is deprecated and
> > not avaiable in the latest version of library. For testing purpose this 
> > should be ok. 
> 
> I disagree.  It _is_ a bad idea.
> 
> There is absolutely *no* guarantee that symbols will be identical
> between two revisions of a shared library, especially across a
> major revision.  I'm not talking about missing symbols detected during
> run-time either; I'm talking about internal changes that could affect
> the operation of a program which relies on certain behaviour of
> functions in that library, which has changed in a newer version (yet
> kept the same function/calling semantics).
> 
> And let's not forget about shared libraries that are linked to other
> shared libraries, resulting in a dependency tree of madness, where
> you'll suddenly find yourself making symlinks all over the place.  (You
> should use libmap.conf for this purpose anyway).
> 
> So like I said -- it IS a bad idea.  Please do not do it.
> 
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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:40:22PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> I think its not a very bad idea, unless your app is dependent on a routine 
> which is deprecated and
> not avaiable in the latest version of library. For testing purpose this 
> should be ok. 

I disagree.  It _is_ a bad idea.

There is absolutely *no* guarantee that symbols will be identical
between two revisions of a shared library, especially across a
major revision.  I'm not talking about missing symbols detected during
run-time either; I'm talking about internal changes that could affect
the operation of a program which relies on certain behaviour of
functions in that library, which has changed in a newer version (yet
kept the same function/calling semantics).

And let's not forget about shared libraries that are linked to other
shared libraries, resulting in a dependency tree of madness, where
you'll suddenly find yourself making symlinks all over the place.  (You
should use libmap.conf for this purpose anyway).

So like I said -- it IS a bad idea.  Please do not do it.

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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-10 Thread Shakul M Hameed
I think its not a very bad idea, unless your app is dependent on a routine 
which is deprecated and
not avaiable in the latest version of library. For testing purpose this should 
be ok. 
   
 - moin

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:12:55AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:56:13PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > check for libm.so.5 in /lib.
> > do a softlink of libm.so.4 pointing to libm.so.5 
> > I guess this should fix your issue.
> 
> **DO NOT** do this.
> 
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Re: uptime 2 years!

2008-10-10 Thread Bernt Hansson

Zbigniew Szalbot:

2008/10/9 Jon Radel:

Dear Mr. Marshall:

I'm terribly sorry that our representatives in charge of answering emails
have been rude to you.  I've just fired the lot of them, particularly as we
can't afford to keep then on anymore seeing as how your generous donations
are now in jeopardy.


How is that supposed to be helpful?


Ironi is helpful. And funny.

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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 05:56:13PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> check for libm.so.5 in /lib.
> do a softlink of libm.so.4 pointing to libm.so.5 
> I guess this should fix your issue.

**DO NOT** do this.

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Re: How To Get libm.so.4?

2008-10-10 Thread Shakul M Hameed
check for libm.so.5 in /lib.
do a softlink of libm.so.4 pointing to libm.so.5 
I guess this should fix your issue.

 - moin




On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:49:26PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> I am attempting to install a web analysis tool named "Urchin" from 
> Google.  Installation instructions are here:
> 
> https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux)
> 
> Urchin claims to run on FBSD 6.2+ which I took to mean version 6.2 or 
> greater.  Since this is a brand new install, I installed FBSD 
> 7.1-PRERELEASE, assuming the actual release would not be too far off.
> 
> I'm following the install procedures which has me run a ./install.sh 
> script.  This script fails, complaining about a missing libm.so.4.  I've 
> Googled and found some reference that this has to do with installing 
> compatibility libraries for FBSD 4.  Thus I've added "COMPAT4X= yes" and 
> rebuilt and installed my world.  However I still do not have this file.
> 
> What do I need to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Drew
> 
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