Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 04:43 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:29:04PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 06:54 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > > > Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > I'm assuming the problem with double nat'ing is the confusion in packet > > > > traffic. So if the OP is using his ADSL modem to connect to the net, > > > > then it could be safe to assume the public IP would be to the modem > > > > itself, and not his box (barring the possible use of USB), so then the > > > > nat'ing would already be done. Therefore, the best and easiest way would > > > > be to simply bridge his interfaces- correct? Less overheads, etc, plus > > > > simplicity of setup. > > > > > > > > > > There is another option, a variant of which I use. My el cheapo deluxe DSL > > > modem has really crappy broken firewall and DNS implementations. Wireshark > > > showed Windows Messenger service spam leaking past and as soon as I saw > > > that I assumed it was probably the tip of the iceberg. > > > > > > You can also bridge the modem (disabling it's NAT as well). In a fully > > > bridged configuration your FreeBSD gateway will have to perform PPPoE > > > handshake and login as well. > > > > > > > Setting up the modem itself this way can be tricky at times, depending > > on the model and the service. One gotcha with this method can be if your > > ISP is using heartbeat, and so you'll have to either script yourself or > > find one that suits. > > > > > I use a second option called split-bridge, which they have named "IP > > > Passthrough". This allows the DSL modem to be responsible for the PPPoE > > > session. It works by passing the WAN public IP to the Internet facing NIC > > > in my FreeBSD box via DHCP. So, while my interior LAN NIC is static, my > > > outside NIC is ifconfig_xl0="DHCP". It gets assigned whatever IP Verizon > > > sends. > > > > > > > Is this also called IP spoofing? > > No, this is **NOT** IP spoofing. > > What Michael's describing is a feature many DSL modems offer. There is > no official term for what it is, since DSL modems are supposed to be > bridges (layer 2 devices), but in fact this feature causes the modem to > act like something that sits between layer 2 and layer 3 -- yet is not a > router. Different modems call it something different. > > If you enable this feature, what happens is this: > > The modem requires you to access its administrative web page. You > insert your PPPoE Username and Password (which it saves to > NVRAM/EEPROM), and click Connect. The DSL modem then continues to do > the PPPoE encapsulation, so that your FreeBSD box, Windows box, or > whatever (that's connected to the DSL modem on the LAN port) does not > have to. > > The modem is given an IP address as part of the PPPoE hand-off. That IP > address is, of course, a public Internet IP. The modem also enables use > of a DHCP server, so that a machine connect to its LAN port can do a > DHCP request and get an IP address -- but here's the kicker. > > The IP address the modem returns to the machine on the LAN is the > public IP address the ISP gave the modem via PPPoE. > > "So how does this work?" All network I/O between the LAN port and > the modem itself is done at layer 2 past that point -- meaning, the > modem acts "almost purely" as a bridge from that point forward: but > it still does the PPPoE encapsulation for you. So, like I said, > the modem acts like a device that sits between layer 2 and layer 3. > > Does this make more sense? > > The reason this feature is HIGHLY desired is because not all PPPoE > implementations are compatible with an ISPs implementation. It is > *always* best to use whatever equipment they give you or guarantee > works with them; using your own, or some other PPPoE daemon/method, > can result in lots of trouble. > > I've personally used this method, I might add. I can give you > reference material on how to set it up and use it, over at > dslreports.com. Lots of DSL modems these days offer said feature. Ok, that explains it. The IP spoofing term comes from the Alcatel SpeedTouch systems used by Telstra in Oz. If there is no official term for it then thats why they've decided to call it that- right or wrong. They use firmware updates to enable this feature or others, and can be botched easily so for reference copy the original firmware as a backup if possible! It certainly would save trouble with their equipment because of the heartbeat feature. Sounds very cool... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 06:54 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > [snip] > > I'm assuming the problem with double nat'ing is the confusion in packet > > traffic. So if the OP is using his ADSL modem to connect to the net, > > then it could be safe to assume the public IP would be to the modem > > itself, and not his box (barring the possible use of USB), so then the > > nat'ing would already be done. Therefore, the best and easiest way would > > be to simply bridge his interfaces- correct? Less overheads, etc, plus > > simplicity of setup. > > > > There is another option, a variant of which I use. My el cheapo deluxe DSL > modem has really crappy broken firewall and DNS implementations. Wireshark > showed Windows Messenger service spam leaking past and as soon as I saw > that I assumed it was probably the tip of the iceberg. > > You can also bridge the modem (disabling it's NAT as well). In a fully > bridged configuration your FreeBSD gateway will have to perform PPPoE > handshake and login as well. > Setting up the modem itself this way can be tricky at times, depending on the model and the service. One gotcha with this method can be if your ISP is using heartbeat, and so you'll have to either script yourself or find one that suits. > I use a second option called split-bridge, which they have named "IP > Passthrough". This allows the DSL modem to be responsible for the PPPoE > session. It works by passing the WAN public IP to the Internet facing NIC > in my FreeBSD box via DHCP. So, while my interior LAN NIC is static, my > outside NIC is ifconfig_xl0="DHCP". It gets assigned whatever IP Verizon > sends. > Is this also called IP spoofing? > I just like this particular arrangement better. I run a caching/hybrid DNS > server on the gateway as well. I've used this configuration for about 2 > years now and it has served me well. I also use ALTQ to prioritize outgoing > acks, as this seems to be helpful when using asymmetric DSL. > Sounds very stable- I might have to look into the ALTQ (one day, when I finally get through my other projects... :) ). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 22:22 -0700, mdh wrote: > --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my > > FreeBSD 6.2 system > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 1:04 AM > > > > Actually I'm not sure... I'm just an > > innocent bystander :) > > > > Throughout the thread there was mention of enabling nat in > > the rc.conf, > > so whichever that was... > > > > My consideration was just in general. Someone mentioned > > enabling nat, > > another said don't double nat, so I thought routed > > would be better. But > > it seems routed is not the way to go, but to keep > > gateway_enable: > > question remains as to whether to use nat or not (I suppose > > in any form; > > but if you can enlighten me with regard if one form of nat > > is better > > than another especially in the case of double nat then > > I'd appreciate > > the information). > > > > The main reason I'm bring up this issue is to clarify > > (and possibly the > > OP will then get a better picture too) of precisely how to > > accomplish > > the result required. And maybe increase my knowledge of the > > subject > > too :) thats always a good thing. > > Essentially, you need three things to accomplish nat'ing via the way I'm > going to describe. There're several ways to do it, but I'll only cover one > here, because to describe others, I'd need to go look up docs, which you're > more than welcome to do for yourself if you don't like the way I'm going to > touch on. > > First, you need gateway_enable set to yes in /etc/rc.conf. This is > universally true regardless of which method you use for nat'ing. What this > does is instruct the kernel that it has multiple interfaces, and that it must > pass packets across them, acting as a router. This has nothing to do with > various route discovery protocols, it only sets a sysctl which tells the > kernel to route packets across multiple interfaces. The default behavior is > for the kernel not to do so. > > Second, you'll need some way for your NAT to get packets. In some cases, the > NAT method is built into the way that it gets packets. With the way I'm > discussing here, it's not. In this case, we'll use `ipfw`. You'll need a > kernel that supports ipfw for this to work, obviously. The rule you'll need > should look something like this: > divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via sis0 > Where sis0 is your EXTERNAL network interface (ie, the one facing your cable > modem, modem, or whatever else.) The command to add this should look > something like: `ipfw add divert 8668 ip4 from any to any via > ` where rule number is the rule number you'll use (it should be a > low one!) and interface is your external-facing network interface device. > > Third, you'll need natd itself. natd can be enabled via - you guessed it - > the rc.conf variable natd_enable. That's not all, though. You'll also need > to (in rc.conf) set natd_interface to the interface you specified in the > firewall rule, and you'll almost certainly want to set natd_flags to "-u". > > So all in all, you'll need the ipfw rule, ipfw enabled in your kernel, and > the following lines in rc.conf: > gateway_enable="YES" > natd_program="/sbin/natd" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="sis0" > natd_flags="-u" > > You may also need to run dhclient or somesuch to get an address from your > ISP, but that's a whole other story. > Enjoy. > > - mdh Been there, done that before (at the time I was merely fumbling, but I have greater experience now)... interesting point in that is the fact that natd_enable tells the kernel to pass packets between interfaces. I'm assuming the problem with double nat'ing is the confusion in packet traffic. So if the OP is using his ADSL modem to connect to the net, then it could be safe to assume the public IP would be to the modem itself, and not his box (barring the possible use of USB), so then the nat'ing would already be done. Therefore, the best and easiest way would be to simply bridge his interfaces- correct? Less overheads, etc, plus simplicity of setup. Oh I love a good hypothetical- it lets me experiment with systems without touching anything or breaking it :) The fact that someone else might build on their knowledge is just a cherry on top. I've not come across another list that so freely shares knowledge... its great! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 21:19 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:15:49AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:10 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > > > > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:55:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > > >> Next, you will want to configure your FreeBSD machine as a NAT > > > > > >> gateway. > > > > > >> In your /etc/rc.conf you will want something like > > > > > >> gateway_enable="YES" > > > > > >> and some form of firewall initialization[1]. The gateway_enable is > > > > > >> what > > > > > >> allows the forwarding of packets between your rl0 and your rl1, > > > > > >> but the > > > > > >> activation of NAT functionality is usually a function contained > > > > > >> within a > > > > > >> firewall. So conceptually, the firewall will be "in between" rl0 > > > > > >> and rl1. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> There are three different firewalls you can choose from. > > > > > >> Configuring the > > > > > >> firewall is usually where the inexperienced get stuck. This subject > > > > > >> material is beyond the scope of this missive, and you would do > > > > > >> well to > > > > > >> start reading in the Handbook. But essentially, when you configure > > > > > >> NAT in > > > > > >> the firewall your rl0 (connected to the ISP) will be assigned a > > > > > >> "Public" > > > > > >> IP address and the NAT function will translate between "Public" and > > > > > >> "Private". > > > > > > > > > > With respect to "NAT", the caveat here is the assumption that your > > > > > DSL/Cable > > > > > modem is *not* already performing NAT. The situation you do not want > > > > > to get > > > > > into is having *two* NATs. The content herein is assuming that the > > > > > external > > > > > (rl0) interface is getting assigned a "Public" IP from the ISP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this is the case wouldn't the OP set router_enable=YES instead of > > > > gateway? > > > > > > No. router_enable causes routed(8) to run, which allows for > > > announcements and withdraws of network routes via RIPv1/v2. This is > > > something completely different than forwarding packets. > > > > > > What the OP wants is to route packets from his private LAN (e.g. > > > 192.168.0.0/16) on to the Internet using NAT. That means he has to have > > > a NAT gateway of some kind that forwards and translates packets. That > > > means he needs gateway_enable="yes", which allows IPv4 forwarding > > > to happen "through" the FreeBSD box. In layman's terms, it allows > > > the FreeBSD box to be used a "Gateway" for other computers which > > > are connected to it directly. > > > > > > > Ok, then. So it would be gateway_enable, but no nat_enable? (To avoid > > double nat'ing) > > Do you mean firewall_nat_enable, natd_enable, or ipnat_enable? :-) > See /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > Actually I'm not sure... I'm just an innocent bystander :) Throughout the thread there was mention of enabling nat in the rc.conf, so whichever that was... My consideration was just in general. Someone mentioned enabling nat, another said don't double nat, so I thought routed would be better. But it seems routed is not the way to go, but to keep gateway_enable: question remains as to whether to use nat or not (I suppose in any form; but if you can enlighten me with regard if one form of nat is better than another especially in the case of double nat then I'd appreciate the information). The main reason I'm bring up this issue is to clarify (and possibly the OP will then get a better picture too) of precisely how to accomplish the result required. And maybe increase my knowledge of the subject too :) thats always a good thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Virtual mail and mailman
Before I go off rashly and join another mailing list or two, might I enquire here regarding the difference between virtual alias' and virtual mailboxes from mailman's point of view? I've been googling, but I'm as confused as ever... What I have is vmailboxes on postfix (with a courier frontend) and I want to setup a mailing list server for at least some of the domains postfix is hosting. According to mailman docs it will only use virtual alias' to run. Based on my current configuration (which I'd like to keep for simplicity), how do I reconcile this? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 04:10 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:40:48PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:55:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > > > [snip] > > > >> Next, you will want to configure your FreeBSD machine as a NAT gateway. > > > >> In your /etc/rc.conf you will want something like gateway_enable="YES" > > > >> and some form of firewall initialization[1]. The gateway_enable is what > > > >> allows the forwarding of packets between your rl0 and your rl1, but the > > > >> activation of NAT functionality is usually a function contained within > > > >> a > > > >> firewall. So conceptually, the firewall will be "in between" rl0 and > > > >> rl1. > > > >> > > > >> There are three different firewalls you can choose from. Configuring > > > >> the > > > >> firewall is usually where the inexperienced get stuck. This subject > > > >> material is beyond the scope of this missive, and you would do well to > > > >> start reading in the Handbook. But essentially, when you configure NAT > > > >> in > > > >> the firewall your rl0 (connected to the ISP) will be assigned a > > > >> "Public" > > > >> IP address and the NAT function will translate between "Public" and > > > >> "Private". > > > > > > With respect to "NAT", the caveat here is the assumption that your > > > DSL/Cable > > > modem is *not* already performing NAT. The situation you do not want to > > > get > > > into is having *two* NATs. The content herein is assuming that the > > > external > > > (rl0) interface is getting assigned a "Public" IP from the ISP. > > > > > > > If this is the case wouldn't the OP set router_enable=YES instead of > > gateway? > > No. router_enable causes routed(8) to run, which allows for > announcements and withdraws of network routes via RIPv1/v2. This is > something completely different than forwarding packets. > > What the OP wants is to route packets from his private LAN (e.g. > 192.168.0.0/16) on to the Internet using NAT. That means he has to have > a NAT gateway of some kind that forwards and translates packets. That > means he needs gateway_enable="yes", which allows IPv4 forwarding > to happen "through" the FreeBSD box. In layman's terms, it allows > the FreeBSD box to be used a "Gateway" for other computers which > are connected to it directly. > Ok, then. So it would be gateway_enable, but no nat_enable? (To avoid double nat'ing) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
> Unless the question is as broad as 'how do I learn about FreeBSD' it > is worthwhile to help the person aim that shotgun or exchange it > for a rifle. Interesting analogy- I like it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Testing - my emails don't seem to be getting through
I've been getting a lot of rejections: Helo command rejected: Host not found (in reply to RCPT TO command). So now I'm running a test to see if this one will get through. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How to get my Dad's Win2k system to access internet through my FreeBSD 6.2 system
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 06:46 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 04:55:11AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > [snip] > >> Next, you will want to configure your FreeBSD machine as a NAT gateway. > >> In your /etc/rc.conf you will want something like gateway_enable="YES" > >> and some form of firewall initialization[1]. The gateway_enable is what > >> allows the forwarding of packets between your rl0 and your rl1, but the > >> activation of NAT functionality is usually a function contained within a > >> firewall. So conceptually, the firewall will be "in between" rl0 and rl1. > >> > >> There are three different firewalls you can choose from. Configuring the > >> firewall is usually where the inexperienced get stuck. This subject > >> material is beyond the scope of this missive, and you would do well to > >> start reading in the Handbook. But essentially, when you configure NAT in > >> the firewall your rl0 (connected to the ISP) will be assigned a "Public" > >> IP address and the NAT function will translate between "Public" and > >> "Private". > > With respect to "NAT", the caveat here is the assumption that your DSL/Cable > modem is *not* already performing NAT. The situation you do not want to get > into is having *two* NATs. The content herein is assuming that the external > (rl0) interface is getting assigned a "Public" IP from the ISP. > If this is the case wouldn't the OP set router_enable=YES instead of gateway? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: uptime 2 years!
> I love the direction this thread has taken. First, humorous, then it > will turn into flames. I bet all my US$:-) > Unfortunately that doesn't really offer much value anymore with the recent market downturn- got anything else to offer? Sorry- couldn't resist... :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: uptime 2 years!
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:03 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, October 09, 2008 09:34:02 -0500 Jerry McAllister > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 07:07:31AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote: > > > >> > >> Sorry to bother you...You know, you could just leave well enough > >> alone if you don't care. There goes any future donations from me and > >> my organization as this is more than the first untactful email I > >> recieved from this, I'll donate and use other platforms. Please don't > >> send any other emails > >> > > > > Kind of touchy, wouldn't you think? > > People are giving you some perspective. > > Well, anyway, you have the choice of using a superior system > > or let scratchy responses lead you to something less suitable. > > > > When I was a young boy, I went on vacation with my family to a lake in upper > Minnesota. (My mother's ancestral home.) The weather was beautiful, the water > was warm and inviting, the swimming was thoroughly enjoyable and the cabin we > stayed in was luxurious (by the standards of a little boy.) > > However, my mother said something to me that mad me angry. To "punish" her, I > stomped off in a huff and spent the remainder of the vacation scowling in the > cabin. I refused to swim until she corrected the perceived injustice. > Needless to say, my "punishment" caused me a great deal more consternation than > it did her, or my siblings who were all happily enjoying the water and the > boating and the entire lovely vacation while I fumed in the cabin. > > Self-inflicted wounds are often the most painful of all. > You do present a very good point here, but in some ways the OP has a point. This list is by far the most supportive and helpful lists I've come across, it would be nice to keep this attribute and not slip off into the "geeks only" attitude. That said, the post probably should have been sent to the chat list and not here. I'm not trying to start an argument, just offer an outside perspective. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: uptime 2 years!
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 07:50 -0700, Chad Marshall wrote: > Here's what I said to the last guy who says my skin is thin, just > leave well enough alone and drop it please. Seems your skin is thin as > well if you can't handle a little back talk :) > > Well, I can always except critism. The problem is that I don't need > rude responses for something I thought would be something to share for > your organization, a success story of FreeBSD. Only for people to call > me lazy and say "Big Deal". If it's not a big deal, than say nothing. > Maybe you should put someone in charge of answering emails who aren't > cocky and smug, some responses were nice and at least supportive. > > I still believe in FreeBSD and it's a great OS. It's the nix I started > and learned with but I think your community is full of conceited, > pompous asses, the reason I don't like to associate with IT people. > I'd rather not give money to someone who has to insult me. If you go > to a restaurant and you get a rude waiter, what do you do? I don't go > back or give them a crap tip. Maybe you should try the fedora list then? You'll be wishing you hadn't left this one... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: uptime 2 years!
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 10:52 -0400, Mikel King wrote: > On Oct 8, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Chad Marshall wrote: > > > No Problem, I figured that there are other systems out there with a > > longer uptime. I have this server as a postfix/courier-imap/ > > squirrelmail (60+ accounts and 30-40 forwards) mailserver with > > apache/php/mysql. Also use it as a slave authoritative nameserver > > for over 100 zones (one zone with a 60sec TTL on a high volume > > production website) as well. Plus use it as a primary nameserver for > > our entire office (300+ workstations). I was lazy with it (Upgrading > > or Replacing) and when it hit a year, I decided to hold off doing > > anything with it as I wanted to see how long I could let it go. > > It's a celeron 2.4ghz server with 512m Ram and has been a champ > > server in it's performance and stability. I use CentOS for most of > > my other systems and find that as easy as it is for administration > > and upgrading, it lacks FreeBSD's performance. With the memory leaks > > that CentOS has, I usually have to end up restarting the > > machine(s). With FreeBSD I can just restart the services, and got > > my memory back and reduce the amount of swap being used. > > > > Regardless of the first email I got back (Which was a little rude), > > I will continue to run this server as long as I can and monitor the > > security risks using DenyHosts and other security measures. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:54:47AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Would like to share a success story which I'm sure you've had in the > >>> past but one of my servers running FreeBSD will have an uptime of 2 > >>> years tomorrow. I plan on putting on my blog but as it doesn't have > >>> much reach but wanted to share with you since your community has > >>> made > >>> this possible. Please indicate where I could post this to have a bit > >>> more reach or if you'd like to put a link to my blog, I'd be more > >>> than > >>> happy to provide that. > >>> > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>> > >> > >> Sorry to rain on your parade: > >> > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2008-October/005719.html > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> > > I think this is good news, and thanks for posting it. While it may not > be a record holder, from an advocacy point of view it's nice to see. > It means there one more rock solid server out there. Here, here... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Been having trouble posting with a new mail server (only to your server mind)- just trying sort it out. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[SOLVED] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:21 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or > better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a > straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of > read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything). > > I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to > deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop > it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says. > > I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution > in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to > work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx > globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for > pipe in postfix is vmail. > > I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted > the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada. > > The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what > the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what > is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf? > > You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I > have left after working on this for several days... Ok, I know I'm answering my own question here- but this should definitely be fixed. In the INSTALL file, someone should change the statement where it says "When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, one of the following configurations must be used:"\ to: "When using the standalone maildrop build with courier-authlib, ALL of the following configurations must be used:" Just after I sent the email I thought I'd check the only thing I hadn't changed, the setuid bit. There are several reasons why I hadn't had the guts to do this before- but in my mood I was feeling reckless. 1. The statement in the INSTALL file said only one configuration needed to be changed. 2. I installed from ports- I would have thought (like most would, and history has served to provide empirical data) that the install process would have set this. 3. None of the information I read when searching emphasised this when all other options are already set- and certainly none based on freebsd. Anyone else with this issue popping up THIS is the answer- set ALL the configuration options in the INSTALL file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] maildrop and postfix - temporary authentication failure
I'm really about to throw this damn server through a closed window (or better yet a brick wall). I've searched high and low on google for a straight answer, and any references in mailing lists give an answer of read the INSTALL file (as if thats supposed to solve everything). I have virtual users for email in postfix, and I want to use maildrop to deliver to the virtual mailboxes. Problem is, when it does use maildrop it shows an error in the logs as the subject line says. I've tried everything, checked everything. That supposed magic solution in the INSTALL file says only ONE thing needs to be set to get it to work. Maildrop is owned by root and group is mail. The socket is rwx globally (all this is set by the port install). The executing user for pipe in postfix is vmail. I've installed the port with authlib and gdbm (even manually adjusted the makefile to ensure --enable-userdb). Nada. The generally consensus is that it should work out of the box- so what the hell am I doing wrong? Where should I be looking? Specifically: what is not authenticating? I can manually test maildrop ok. So wtf? You'll have to excuse my language here- I'm not sure how much hair I have left after working on this for several days... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: uptime 2 years!
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 22:47 +, Duane Hill wrote: > On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:54:47AM -0700, Chad Marshall wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Would like to share a success story which I'm sure you've had in the > >> past but one of my servers running FreeBSD will have an uptime of 2 > >> years tomorrow. I plan on putting on my blog but as it doesn't have > >> much reach but wanted to share with you since your community has made > >> this possible. Please indicate where I could post this to have a bit > >> more reach or if you'd like to put a link to my blog, I'd be more than > >> happy to provide that. > >> > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > > > > Sorry to rain on your parade: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2008-October/005719.html > > Uptime over seven(7) years? Must be behind some firewall and not have to > worry about (what someone else has stated) kernel or userland updates. I believe there is at least 2 ways to achieve this without a security risk: 1. The updates were completed without rebooting (ie hot swapping the kernel). 2. The system was behind a firewall and not used for anything except maybe backups and/or file server. I know of an old system that ran for 3 1/2 years like this- name: Mother. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Touch screen ET&T on Clevo tn120r
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 10:53 -0300, Sdävtaker wrote: > Thanks, here is the usb data: > usbdevs -dv > Controller /dev/usb0: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub0 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb1: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub1 > port 1 powered > port 2 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Fingerprint > Sensor(0x2016), TouchStrip(0x147e), rev 0.01 >ugen0 > Controller /dev/usb2: > addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub2 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > port 3 powered > port 4 powered > Controller /dev/usb3: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub3 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb4: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub4 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb5: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), > Intel(0x), rev 1.00 > uhub5 > port 1 addr 2: full speed, power 100 mA, config 1, TC4UM(0x0306), > ET&T Technology(0x0664), rev 1.00 >uhid0 > Well there it is, now you'll have to find the drivers for xorg and all else. Run a search on the net with this info now and try to work out which driver to use. Check out the various touch drivers available for xorg and narrow it down to which will work for your hardware- if its the 3m touch drivers you're in luck; use the mutouch (I think?) and go from there. Xorg should pick them up automatically, but may need some help. Be aware that there may not be mainstream drivers, I'm trying to work with an egalax driver which is only available for linux so far, so it can be quite a trick to get it to all work. Keep posting as you find more information, and good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Touch screen ET&T on Clevo tn120r
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 14:59 -0300, Sdävtaker wrote: > Hello, > I installed FreeBSD 7.0r in a Clevo tablet. > I works great, but i am missing the touchscreen. > Did someone make it work or got any idea where can i start to try? > I got the pciconf -lv and scanpci -v info: > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Check your usb connections- copy the info here as with the pci stuff you sent. Most of these types of features are connected via usb. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How stable is FreeBSD WiFi support?
On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 23:07 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 03:53:20PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 13:11 -0700, Yuri wrote: > > > I have FreeBSD-70 machine and Linux Gentoo machines side by side (within > > > 10 feet). > > > Gentoo Linux (with old AirLink101) connects to a particular encrypted > > > WEP network without any problems all the time. > > > FreeBSD (with ral0 device and native driver) connection is very > > > unstable, keeps disappearing, though network card shows signal level as > > > -90:-95. > > > dhclient fails to set up the card, often dhclient succeeds but all name > > > lookups fails. When internet connection is established all TCP > > > connections get dropped after 10-20 minutes or less. > > > > > > I feel like I hit some bug in FreeBSD WiFi networking support. > > > > > > Anyone has similar experience? > > > Yuri > > > > Yeah I had similar troubles on a laptop with an intel wifi (6.1 + 6.2). > > I posted something about a week or two back, but I didn't get any > > response here. Not sure where to go from here though, as I'm having > > similar troubles with the ral driver too (desktop- 6.3). > > Have you tried the freebsd-stable and freebsd-hackers lists? Supplicant > has been discussed there in the recent and late past. > Yeah I believe I checked stable at the time, but I'm not subscribed to hackers so I wouldn't know about there. I'll check stable again now that you mention it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: exporting/exposing directory over the Internet?
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 00:18 +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > Use SFTP (aka SSH file sharing) and mount the folder's using SftpDrive on > Windows and various tools are available for doing that under UNIX. Wouldn't an ssl version of webdav do the same sort of thing without all the extra hassle in (heaven forbid) window$? I think there is a network folder system that can access webdav on the M$ crap, and I believe there is a webdavs in the apache modules. Correct me if I'm wrong... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How stable is FreeBSD WiFi support?
On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 13:11 -0700, Yuri wrote: > I have FreeBSD-70 machine and Linux Gentoo machines side by side (within > 10 feet). > Gentoo Linux (with old AirLink101) connects to a particular encrypted > WEP network without any problems all the time. > FreeBSD (with ral0 device and native driver) connection is very > unstable, keeps disappearing, though network card shows signal level as > -90:-95. > dhclient fails to set up the card, often dhclient succeeds but all name > lookups fails. When internet connection is established all TCP > connections get dropped after 10-20 minutes or less. > > I feel like I hit some bug in FreeBSD WiFi networking support. > > Anyone has similar experience? > Yuri Yeah I had similar troubles on a laptop with an intel wifi (6.1 + 6.2). I posted something about a week or two back, but I didn't get any response here. Not sure where to go from here though, as I'm having similar troubles with the ral driver too (desktop- 6.3). Seems to be wpa supplicant from my troubleshooting. If I manually reassociated with the iwi it was ok, but didn't hold out- I was going to setup a script to run a check and do this. The ral driver works if I set it auto, but wpa supplicant will only work in manual mode. Catch 22 on that one... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 10:25 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 06:04:24PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) > > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD > > >> specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of > > >> funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected revenue > > >> from such an expenditure. > > > > > >giving out a specs will be the simplest way. > > > > Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their > > investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something, > > thereby depriving their shareholders, partners or whatever, of their > > rightfully expected monetary reward is foolish. It certainly is not a > > well thought out business model. > > First, in cases like this, giving out the specs so someone can write > a good driver could increase their sales of cards which could, in > turn, increase their profit.So, it would help their business > rather than hurt it. They do not sell those drivers. They just > use them to sell video cards.Since the lack of a driver that > works in FreeBSD limits their sales of video cards, then they are > making the business mistake you are indicating, only in a reverse > sort of way. > > > Second, and very important.No corporation has any right to expect > a return on their investment. Investment is always a risk. They > might hope for a return, but they will have to work for it. They will > be fortunate to get it. More business ventures fail than succeed. > > Maybe it is only a case of using the wrong word, but it is still > important to remember that there is no guarantee of profit. That > was the big failing of price controls - that the government got > in to the business of guaranteeing profits and then the whole thing > fell apart. Ok, so this is in reply to the previous message on this thread as well as this one. Based on what is said here (and I agree totally), then the NDA would be only on the actually insider specs of the card- you'd have to be a savant to extrapolate the actual guts of the card solely based on the driver (in particular the special features in the hardware- if they're not public knowledge anyway). So why the big hush hush then? NDA signed and obviously a contract drawn which everyone agrees to- manufacturer and programmer. Any reason why this wouldn't work? I know of some that do this (ie m-Audio and OSS). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Questions drivers for VGA and NIC
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 07:26 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:26 -0800 > Henrik Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent a missive > >stating: > >> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:25:19 +0200 (CEST) > >> > >> Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> In all likelihood, the probability of any vendor creating FBSD > >> >> specific drivers is directly proportionate to the expenditure of > >> >> funds to create and maintain the driver versus the expected > >> >> revenue from such an expenditure. > >> > > >> >giving out a specs will be the simplest way. > >> > >> Any entity, or corporation, has a right to expect a return on their > >> investment. To expect a corporation to simply give away something, > >> thereby depriving their shareholders, partners or whatever, of their > >> rightfully expected monetary reward is foolish. It certainly is not a > >> well thought out business model. > > > >There is a difference between open sourcing the binary blob and > >possibly giving away optimizations, trade secrets, etc... and allowing > >easier access to either hardware register specs or specs to write a > >wrapper around a universal blob. > > > >Personally, I think they see it as a "quality" control issue, though > >the quality of their own code is sometimes circumspect. The card > >companies sell hardware and this is where their money is made and/or a > >better experience with the software drivers. Open the hardware spec, > >add a support clause that any "open source" drivers aren't officially > >supported and you're good to go. > > Unfortunately, that is not a legally binding disclaimer in many > locales. It is equivalent to wearing a T-Shirt with "Touch me and I'll > kill you" embroidered on it. If someone touches you and you kill them > you cannot then claim that they were fore warned. That is from an > actual lecture I receive in a business class. > > >Opening the hardware spec will do nothing except sell more hardware. > > Unproven and if it were in factually correct, more businesses would > make use of it. > > >a) the average joe will continue to buy systems with the supported > >hardware / drivers, most likely Windows, OS X or a major Linux distro. > >Probably wouldn't even know the open source ones exist. > > A bit naive in my personal opinion. The overwhelming majority of users > that I am acquainted with and many of them are college students, buy > what ever works best for them with the least amount of user > intervention. The majority of users that I am familiar with do not > want to spent valuable time attempting to configure a PC; they have > better things to do. How many discussions have we had on this forum > regarding the lack of a functional 'Flash' plug-in for web browsing, > etc. Until problems like that are solved, expanding the base for FBSD > is a touch uphill climb. > > >b) the geeks of the world will start running the open source driver if > >it's better or not if it's worse for their applications. Either way, > >it will only sell more hardware. > > Again, unproven. > > >c) The FOSS only crowd will start using the hardware since it has a > >fully open source drivers. > > > >The open source driver doesn't need to be able to run Doom5 at > >incredible speeds, it just needs high quality 2d and the ability to > >handle some 3d compositing, etc... for desktop effects. > > Sorry; however, I totally disagree. A half-ass driver is akin to being > slightly pregnant. You are either pregnant or you are not. A driver is > either fully functional, or it is broken. To make arbitrary limits on > what it should and should not be able to do is absurd. If I want to > play a game, and your half-ass driver will not run it, then that driver > is as useless as 'Tits on a bull'. It either works, or it doesn't. Too > many people today accept inferior products/performance under just the > guise you are employing. > > >My .02$ > > > >Henrik > > Again, it appears that NVIDIA has attempted to work with the FBSD > community. Evidently, nothing has come of it. Unfortunate, to say the > least. I apologise for jumping into this thread mid way, but wouldn't the problem be simply a case of nil NDA? If an FOSS programmer signed an NDA with say NVidia, then wouldn't the hardware supplier be more willing to supply more specific details? Anyone with experience in the legalities here? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Realtek 8111C?
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 12:01 +0200, Popof Popof wrote: > I hav a mobo with the same NIC, I use it on a FreeNAS box that's runing a > version based on FreeBSD 6.3. > In order to make the NIC work i had to compile the drivers from realtek with > an other FreeBSD box and load the module on startup. > But data transfer from / to my FreeNAS box are slow. > > Anyone had the same problem with this NIC / Realtek drivers? > Did someone used the drivers from FreeBSD 7.1 with (or without) FreeNAS ? > Does the transfer speed are correct ? > > 2008/10/1 cpghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought that mine might be slow, but I couldn't be sure as its pretty weak hardware anyway. Might be worth some investigation. (I'm running 6.2 and 6.3) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:18 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 02 October 2008 01:59:18 Da Rock wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:53 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > > > So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it > > > > in rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be > > > > started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup- > > > > based on my reading in the handbook and man pages. > > > > > > Yes, you can. Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when > > > running the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf. This is > > > documented in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what > > > you are looking for.) > > > > Well thank you both for that piece of information, I had overlooked > > that. I did end up using it that way, but I was still unaware that it > > was mandatory. > > The problem with forcestart is that it ignores any errors that may occur. The > better option for a manual start is onestart, which simply bypasses the test > for the option being enabled but still fails on any other error (missing > dependencies, startup problems etc). > > Jonathan Well that might be more useful (and best practice)... Cheers for the heads up guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:53 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:39:47PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > > >> Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc > > > >> script? > > > >> > > > >> I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and > > > >> technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets > > > >> up > > > >> the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the > > > >> setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup > > > >> manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be > > > >> more > > > >> than a little frustrated. > > > >> > > > >> Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last > > > >> time too... > > > >> > > > >> For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this > > > >> point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't). > > > > > > > > Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm > > > > trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of > > > > these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd > > > > versions (all 6.x). > > > > > > > > Is it just me? > > > > > > Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an > > > _enable="YES" at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info > > > you may look at the script you are trying to start. > > > > So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in > > rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be > > started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup- > > based on my reading in the handbook and man pages. > > Yes, you can. Use forcestart/forcestop instead of start/stop when running > the rc script if you do not have it enabled in rc.conf. This is documented > in rc(8) (and is very easily overlooked if you don't know what you are > looking for.) Well thank you both for that piece of information, I had overlooked that. I did end up using it that way, but I was still unaware that it was mandatory. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 12:57 +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > >> Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc > >> script? > >> > >> I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and > >> technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up > >> the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the > >> setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup > >> manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more > >> than a little frustrated. > >> > >> Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last > >> time too... > >> > >> For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this > >> point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't). > > > > Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm > > trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of > > these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd > > versions (all 6.x). > > > > Is it just me? > > Sorry for may be a dumb question: did you define an > _enable="YES" at /etc/rc.conf[.local]? For more info > you may look at the script you are trying to start. So are you saying I can't start a script manually without enabling it in rc.conf? I was not under that impression... I thought it could be started manually for testing before setting it for automatic startup- based on my reading in the handbook and man pages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: mysql rc script failure - correction: most installed rc scripts not running manually
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc > script? > > I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and > technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up > the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the > setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup > manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more > than a little frustrated. > > Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last > time too... > > For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this > point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't). Manually running port installed rc scripts is not working manually. I'm trying mysql, courier-imap, and I've tried isc-dhcp in the past. None of these will work when run manually- even on different machines and bsd versions (all 6.x). Is it just me? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
mysql rc script failure
Has anyone else had trouble with starting mysql server with the rc script? I've only just installed from ports (as a dependency, mind) and technically it should just start when you run the rc script - it sets up the db dirs and stuff so it can just run. But I can't get it to do the setup stuff automatically, and so the script fails. I've done the setup manually before so its no real biggy, but I imagine others would be more than a little frustrated. Anyone else have this trouble? I just realised I had to do this last time too... For reference: I'm starting the script manually for testing at this point (if that makes a difference- which I believe it shouldn't). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 08:24 -0400, George Fazio wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote: > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > >> > >>> Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a > >>> postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm > >>> using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which > >>> retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual > >>> workstations (which is what happens currently). > >>> > >>> > >> When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to > >> deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user > >> courier-imap client? I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of > >> courier. > >> > >>> I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account > >>> for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but > >>> it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on > >>> Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so: > >>> 1. what does it take to write one? > >>> 2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it > >>> possible? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> This is a classic case of over engineering. You do not want to bcc back > >> to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the > >> sent folder. You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all > >> email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require > >> it. But, that it another ball of wax entirely. > >> > >>> This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages > >>> to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it > >> should do this for you. Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and > >> probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you > >> just have to make sure the client is configured to do that. Typically, > >> in the configuration of the client, there is something that says > >> something like "save a copy of sent messages to ". I > >> don't know what client you're using. I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, > >> and Outlook (when I have no other choice). > >> > >> If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may > >> require a custom solution like you speak of above. > >> > >>> Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to > >>> do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would > >>> be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me > >>> how it works :) ). > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop > >> access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and > >> amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav). My mail > >> clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to > >> the sent folder as expected. While I am using dovecot, and not courier, > >> for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would > >> handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap > >> server should have imho. > >> > >> -George > >> > >> > > > > Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't > > found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a > > webmail system, and yes some pop clients. > > > > You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it > > as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it > > possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the > > formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a > > sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line > > to run maildrop: > > > > maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent > > > > Obviously the message itself will be piped
Re: Server - Linux Compat
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:38 -0400, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > When I was young, many many moons ago, and I installed FreeBSD 4.4 for the > first time, I enabled linux compatability ... > > Each build since, I have enabled it ... > > So not I am at the point of asking myself why? > > All I run is webservers and namesrvers, you know, Bind, Apache, Mysql, > vmpop3d, PHP, Exim and shh...not to mention a few utils, ipa, ipfw etc. > > Does anyone have any compelling reason I should continue to enable linux > compatability? > > Are there any pitfalls (Security, Performance) in doing so? I've done the same myself for a long time, but now I just do minimal installs and go from there after having numerous issues with incompatible packages rather than ports. I can't see any security issues in not having it, in fact isn't there a principle for security in the less software the less holes to get through? Linux compat is only installed if you install a port that requires it to operate, so it would seem that a lot of servers wouldn't necessarily use it. Its mostly a desktop thing for some of the more difficult to port (or legal issue) software that users specifically want. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 08:24 -0400, George Fazio wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote: > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > >> > >>> Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a > >>> postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm > >>> using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which > >>> retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual > >>> workstations (which is what happens currently). > >>> > >>> > >> When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to > >> deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user > >> courier-imap client? I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of > >> courier. > >> > >>> I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account > >>> for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but > >>> it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on > >>> Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so: > >>> 1. what does it take to write one? > >>> 2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it > >>> possible? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> This is a classic case of over engineering. You do not want to bcc back > >> to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the > >> sent folder. You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all > >> email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require > >> it. But, that it another ball of wax entirely. > >> > >>> This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages > >>> to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it > >> should do this for you. Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and > >> probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you > >> just have to make sure the client is configured to do that. Typically, > >> in the configuration of the client, there is something that says > >> something like "save a copy of sent messages to ". I > >> don't know what client you're using. I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, > >> and Outlook (when I have no other choice). > >> > >> If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may > >> require a custom solution like you speak of above. > >> > >>> Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to > >>> do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would > >>> be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me > >>> how it works :) ). > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop > >> access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and > >> amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav). My mail > >> clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to > >> the sent folder as expected. While I am using dovecot, and not courier, > >> for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would > >> handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap > >> server should have imho. > >> > >> -George > >> > >> > > > > Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't > > found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a > > webmail system, and yes some pop clients. > > > > You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it > > as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it > > possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the > > formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a > > sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line > > to run maildrop: > > > > maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent > > > > Obviously the message itself will be piped
Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 20:53 -0400, George Fazio wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a > > postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm > > using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which > > retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual > > workstations (which is what happens currently). > > > When you say courier-imap client, do you mean you're using maildrop to > deliver the message to the user's maildir or that there is an end-user > courier-imap client? I am only familiar with the maildrop piece of courier. > > I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account > > for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but > > it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on > > Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so: > > 1. what does it take to write one? > > 2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it > > possible? > > > > > This is a classic case of over engineering. You do not want to bcc back > to the user, or filter the mta, just move the outgoing messages to the > sent folder. You might need bcc for the purposes of journaling all > email, if you have any legal requirement (sox, hippa, etc.) that require > it. But, that it another ball of wax entirely. > > This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages > > to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue. > > > > > If the end-user's client is using imap and configured properly, it > should do this for you. Thurderbird, the full version of Outlook (and > probably Express), and many other clients support this natively - you > just have to make sure the client is configured to do that. Typically, > in the configuration of the client, there is something that says > something like "save a copy of sent messages to ". I > don't know what client you're using. I use Pine/Alpine, Thunderbird, > and Outlook (when I have no other choice). > > If the end-user's client is using pop, then you have a problem that may > require a custom solution like you speak of above. > > Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to > > do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would > > be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me > > how it works :) ). > > > > Cheers > > > > > > My mail system is running postfix (mta) w/ dovecot (for imap or pop > access from the clients), maildrop (for delivering to a maildir), and > amavis-new (for spam filtering and virus scanning w/ clamav). My mail > clients are configured for imap, and they save copies of sent mail to > the sent folder as expected. While I am using dovecot, and not courier, > for my imap server - I cannot imagine that any other imap server would > handle things any differently ... it's core functionality that ever imap > server should have imho. > > -George > Me too. It may be possible to save a copy in evolution, but I haven't found it in all clients. Plus my system needs to be suitable for a webmail system, and yes some pop clients. You sound like you know maildrop very well, I was considering using it as a part of the solution. If I wrote a milter script for postfix, is it possible to pass the message to maildrop so that it can take care of the formalities such as filenames and formats and tell it to put it in a sent folder? Something like a shell or perl script that uses this line to run maildrop: maildrop -d $user Maildir/.Sent Obviously the message itself will be piped, and the $user will be obtained by copying the from field in the message. Would something like this work? I've been searching on google but haven't found a clear answer, they only mention using maildrop filters and commands there- not actual usage of the maildrop cli. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 19:18 +0200, Mel wrote: > On Monday 22 September 2008 10:29:36 Da Rock wrote: > > Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a > > postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm > > using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which > > retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual > > workstations (which is what happens currently). > > Just so I'm clear, postfix will deliver all mail? If so: > always_bcc (default: empty) > > Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that > is received by the Postfix mail system. > > Note: if mail to the BCC address bounces it will be returned to the > sender. > > Note: automatic BCC recipients are produced only for new mail. To avoid > mailer loops, automatic BCC recipients are not generated for mail that > Postfix forwards internally, nor for mail that Postfix generates itself. > > recipient_bcc_maps (default: empty) > > Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by > recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is > added when mail enters from outside of Postfix. > > I am not sure, whether "forwards internally" means mail between two users of > the same postfix installation. It applies also to recipient_bcc_maps. If > postfix won't do this, there's probably a good reason for it, so then I'd > think twice if I really wanted this feature. > I've read about all that but its not what I'm looking for, thanks anyway. I just want to (possibly) send to a filter mail that comes into the queue, check to see if it has been generated by a local domain, and put a copy of the message in the sender's sent folder in the maildir. If there is a better way then I'm open to suggestion, but everything I've read so far (such as the bcc settings) appears to be a bandaid or workaround rather than attacking the solution head on. Its appears simpler to me to avoid using the mailer and filtering per recipient by simply copying using and external filter on postfix. I'm obviously not the only one who would like a feature like this for maildir setups on postfix based on how many times that suggested workaround appears on the google searches. Once I have worked out a proper solution I'll post it and I can almost guarantee the popularity of it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ipv6
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 08:25 -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > > Excuse me for jumping in on this thread, I'm only just starting to look > > into IPv6 for myself. > > > > My ISP has informed me that it doesn't support IPv6 yet, and won't for > > some time. I have a DNS server and sites on IPv4, but I'd like to be > > able to support IPv6- does the fact that my ISP doesn't support it stop > > me from serving on IPv6? I'd think it does, but some clarity from > > experts might help... > > If you only need IPv6 essentially for testing (ie. low bandwidth > requirements && no SLA), then I can provide you a tunnel into our > network, and provide you with as much IPv6 space to play with as you like. > > You will need a router (Cisco, FreeBSD, Juniper etc) at your edge in > order to establish an IPv6IP tunnel to one of my routers. > > Email me off-list if you are interested in further details. > > BTW, to answer your question, no... even if your ISP is not IPv6 > compliant, that does not stop you from implementing IPv6 on your public > servers. Well, thats interesting on both counts. To the first, I don't have the hardware yet, but I was making some investigations to explore what I should be getting to implement IPv6. To the second, can you recommend any material on how this is possible? I have a pretty good knowledge of IPv4, but I haven't had the chance to look at IPv6 yet. That said, from what I do know I wasn't sure about the routing and how my ISP was going to forward the packets. And from my understanding, IPv6 is going to be a whole lot more fun than the previous era... :) Thanks again for clearing that up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Audio Production
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 11:50 +0200, marshc wrote: > > > > I've just been following this thread and have remained silent until now, > > but the linux kernel from my experience is nowhere near as stable or as > > fast as the freebsd kernel. Another cool feature is you can build your > > own kernel, stripping out anything unnecessary and including any > > optimisations that you think will help. > > > Well thanks, because this was part of my original question. All I know > is that you can modify GENERIC for a custom kernel and i can remove what > hardware > i don't need there, and add ext3fs and vesa, and was asking whether > there were other settings > elsewhere to tweak, but i am begining to think it would involve diving > into the actual kernel > source code, and other such sinister hacking. I'm using studio64 now and > will eventually research > a little what it involves, but i had just asked here to find out if > there were any similar project or groups > doing that sort of stuff on fbsd. > > so at this point all i can ask is, are there other more in depth > settings somewhere? or should i forget about it? > i have almost concluded it is the latter. > My only advice on this point is to subscribe to the multimedia list and ask your questions there (I'll be watching this list too, have been for some time now due to my htpc issues- I desperately want to use FreeBSD for a/v, and I suffer the same issues you do in terms of multitasking in the cpu level, but the main problem with BSD for me is the driver problems). > > I think jack is still possible on freebsd too (correct me if I'm wrong), > > so all in all I think your latency will not be as much of a problem on > > bsd as it was on linux. > > > > > jack is available on fsbd, yes. on my earlier post however, i was > rushing a reply before > going out and was trying to cover too much at once, and don't think i > explained myself properly. > I was trying to recap on my original question and explain the whole > purpose of what i was looking for, since i still am not > entirely clear till now. I was also trying to explain some basic areas, > thinking maybe it would also reach some _NON_-audio consious, > fsbd expert that might have some ideas, shed some light and point in the > some direction. > > I mean i am not really a latency freak, and not my main concern. It is > an unavoidable factor in audio production, > something you live with and can manage on way or the other, and i was > mentioning it trying to get to the big picture. > That is , more or less, that latency is an issue, but you can work with, > and what you really want is a computer that is > basically always ready for your orders and request, individed and at the > drop of a dime - " play this out there. that out that, > record this part, write it to disk, mix that i don't care how, just > do it and don't interrupt me". > > > I'm only just getting into this area myself, but I've been using freebsd > > for a while now and I'm extremely happy with it (bar some driver issues, > > particularly in multimedia- tv cards, etc- which may be rectified > > natively very soon, or using the linux support in the kernel). The > > multimedia list will be very helpful to you I'd say, and swapping notes > > is always good. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > I am very new outside windows and been on holidays spending alot of time > getting familiar with freebsd as an OS, not audio, > but it is an issue eventually. I wanted to know if it worth investing my time > in it with those future plans in sight, or if i should make > like a band aid and settle on ubuntu studio64 now. > > Like you mentioned, i was very happy with it as an os, but i had some basic > performance issues and couldn't make out why. I am pretty sure it was due to > my setup and lack of knowledge, basic settings/configs somewhere, but wanted > to know if fbsd could be further optimized with those issues solved. > > > dunno, this is ubuntu studio64 now and i have come to like it very mucch. it > is well build; but think i would switch to fbsd at the drop of a hat given > the choice. > I respect the fact that most pro/long time users of fbsd would be > network/server oriented, and you can't match fbsd there, but i also think the > bigger the community, the more likely new faces, new groups, new projects. > > p.s. > i haven't used jack much yet, but have known about it for a while, and going > on specs and capabilities, it should be the better system. It is like windows > ASIO and Rewire into one package. From what i heard it can route any signal > between any running audio program, even if they are not normally aware of > eachother, or build with that capability. > I don't know about other projects as such, FreeBSD runs under a different kind of protocol than the linux kernel in terms of development, but as I mentioned use the multimedia list and you'll find more geeks like us who understand and know what
Re: Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 15:47 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > 2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it > > possible? > > This is as simple as copying the file, that's the great beauty of > maildir. That is just one aspect of this task I have, but if I have postfix configured to use maildir inboxes does this mean the queue is maildir? Is a simple copy possible for this case? I've only just considered this possibility- thanks for the quick reply... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Postfix, maildir's, and writing filters
Howdy. This may seem simple, but I'm completely green on this: I have a postfix server with a courier-imap client frontend using maildir's. I'm using imap for an internal mta, but I need to setup a system which retains copies of sent emails on the network and not on individual workstations (which is what happens currently). I've looked at some of the solutions (bcc and send to a psuedo account for each user, bcc to the user and filter the incoming mail on this) but it seems like a very roundabout way of doing things. I've read up on Postfix, and there is support for custom filters, so: 1. what does it take to write one? 2. how does one copy email from one folder to another in maildirs? Is it possible? This idea I have should filter the outgoing mail and copy the messages to the sent folder as well as retaining its place in the queue. Any ideas? Maybe a link to some good info? I would like to know how to do this myself so I can do more in the future so info and pointers would be great (if you have a script you'd like to share then please show me how it works :) ). Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ipv6
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 09:18 +, beni wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2008 23:13:33 David Horn wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:35 AM, beni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a question about IPv6. > > > I installed /net/freenet6 and edited the /usr/local/etc/gw6c.conf file > > > with the login and password given by Go6.net. > > > I added freenet6_enable="YES", ipv6_enable="YES" and > > > ipv6_network_interfaces="vr0 tun0" to my /etc/rc.conf. > > > An ifconfig shows this : > > > bsdaddict# ifconfig vr0 > > > vr0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > >options=2808 > > >ether 00:0c:76:c2:2c:b7 > > >inet6 fe80::20c:76ff:fec2:2cb7%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > > >inet 192.168.1.101 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > > >media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > >status: active > > > bsdaddict# > > > So I think the installation of ipv6 is ok : surfing to > > > http://go6.net/4105/freenet.asp says "You are using IPv6 from ...". But > > > in X-chat, when connecting to Freenode p.ex., I get this : > > > > > > FreebsdBeni n=FreeBSD 213.219.143.49.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net :You are now > > > logged in. (id FreebsdBeni, username n=FreeBSD, hostname > > > 213.219.143.49.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) > > > > Even if you have properly setup/configured a tunnel to provide IPv6, > > does not mean that IPv4 goes away. You are running in dual stack mode > > (both IPv4, and IPv6 active) You may want to read up a little bit on > > IPv6 details and background in the FreeBSD handbook > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ipv6.html > > > > and in the go6.net wiki (among lots of other good IPv6 articles. > > Google is your friend here.) > > > > http://wiki.go6.net/index.php?title=IPv6_transition_mechanisms > > > > Most applications that are IPv6 aware will default to using IPv6 if > > everything is setup properly. This includes giving an IPv6 capable > > DNS name to your IRC client. (ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net and > > ipv6.chat.eu.freenode.net are a few that are IPv6) > > > > I'm not much of an IRC user myself, but I see that several of the > > ports of xchat are IPv6 enabled. You did not specify what version of > > Xchat you are using, so I can't comment further there. Make sure you > > are using a version of xchat that supports IPv6, and that you are > > using the appropriate IPv6 freenode DNS name. > > > > You can also find a listing of IPv6 capable application ports over on > > http://www.freshports.org/ipv6/ > > > > > And that is not a ipv6 address. So what am I missing here ? Is it my > > > config or is my isp converting my ipv6 back to ipv4 ? > > > > It is your config. An ISP can not really "automagically" change you > > from IPv6 to IPv4 when you have a tunnel active. You do not provide > > an ifconfig for your tunnel interface (tun0), so it is hard to tell > > what your configuration looks like. > > > > Can you ping6 the site in question ? (ie: ping6 ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net) > > > > > Thanks for any hints on this. > > > -- > > > Beni. > > > > It seems that I was, indeed using the wrong server to connect me to : > the "normal" IPv6 instead of the ipv6-servers (the ping6 works). So now all > seems ok. > Didn't know about those IPv6 capable application port on Freshports though. > Will definitely check those, thanks for the link and your explications ! > Excuse me for jumping in on this thread, I'm only just starting to look into IPv6 for myself. My ISP has informed me that it doesn't support IPv6 yet, and won't for some time. I have a DNS server and sites on IPv4, but I'd like to be able to support IPv6- does the fact that my ISP doesn't support it stop me from serving on IPv6? I'd think it does, but some clarity from experts might help... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Audio Production
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 08:21 -0400, marshc wrote: > Nash Nipples wrote: > > > > > >>> m cassar schrieb: > >>> > >>> > Does anyone here use freebsd for serious > > >> audio/video production work? or > >> > know if there is some kind of community? > > > >>> Didn't try it, but http://ardour.org/ looks like > >>> > >> what you are looking for. > >> > >>> See http://www.freshports.org/audio/ardour/ > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Timm > >>> > >>> > >> thanks but this wasn't exactly what i was asking about > >> in the original post. > >> ardour *is* in ports, as with most other good open-source > >> audio applications > >> ( and propbably the best program out there - though i'm > >> new) but what i was > >> looking for is related to custom/optimizted kernels either > >> known as > >> low-latency or real-time kernels in linux; to help reduce > >> recording > >> latencies, audio dropouts, etc. like studio 64 rt-kernel on > >> ubuntu, planet > >> ccrma on fedora. > >> > >> what i was trying to find out is whether there is such > >> projects on freebsd, > >> or more importantly, if freebsd kernel had the potential to > >> be similarly > >> optimized. (not that i myself have any expertise, [hence my > >> question]) > >> > >> on the other hand, if you are interested in audio programs, > >> ardour is good, > >> hydrogen is good and fun. not to mention easy. > >> > > > > i have experienced a delay when i was recording voice and sort of laying it > > on a track. but removing a few miliseconds off the beginning didnt make a > > big trouble for me and thats when i have discovered this phenomenom but > > thought it was rather because my sound card is old. is this any close to > > something that you mean? > > > it is related, but what you mentiioned is a slightly different area in > computer audio than what i mean with respect to kernels. > > An old card is likely to produce greater delays under any setup, but > that is more a factor of its capabilities and quality of its parts than > just purely because it is old. If you were using JACK (linux) or ASIO > (windows) the delay could be minimized to some extent, but no miracles > there, and that is about the most you can do. > > i'm only at entry level on audio engineering, but in a nutshell here is > an overview to explain your delay, (latency) and my kernel related question. > > first of all, computers are always prone to latencies, or delays, > because of the time it takes the cpu to process the audio data, > read/write from disks, convert between audio signals and digital data, > etc, etc. All take up cycles and valuable milliseconds. > > when playing normal music like mp3s in itunes and such, you wouldn't > notice any delay because the data is simply read from disk and output > thru speackers as they come, though technically there would be a short > period between the time the data was read off disk and then heard out > the speakers. in audio production that slight delay, or latency, is > everything, especially when you have multi-track recording and syncing > with external gear. (latencies range from under 10ms to over 100ms) > > Latency would be more noticeable, say when recording, and would sound > like an echo if you were talking into a mic and listening thru > headphones or speakers, on an average setup at least. roughly becase of > the time needed to process the signal. > > Also, If you were to use a midi controller/keyboard connected via midi > to play a software instrument, you would notice a delay between the time > you hit a key on the keyboard and when you actually heard the sound. The > key press transmittes midi data to the software instrument, the software > triggers the desired sound immediately, but there is that slight delay > to create the sound and push it out the speakers. > > Audio interfaces can have a latency around 5ms, which is very good, yet > may still be faintly noticable, and that also depends on the power of > the pc and the actual load ( number of tracks, effects, instruments > playing), and latency is still a *phenomenon* and something you *have to > live with* in computer audio production; as opposed to hardware gear > like samplers, drum machines, synths, etc. and short of buying a $10K > protools "soundcard". a _hobbyist_ audio interface can be decent with > latencies under 20ms. > > In application, multi-track recording programa like Cubase, Logic, > Ardour, Ableton, Cakewalk etc, do fairly well (with a good setup) when > all material is confined within the computer and not communicating with > the outside world. When you are recording say a vocalist, chances are > you're playing back all the other tracks (drums, bass, etc) at the same > time for the vocalist to listen and sing to, plus possible playing back > the vocalist with added effects likde reverb; a mixture of delays going > in, and the same amount go
{Filename?} Re: Realtek 8111C?
Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (if_rl.ko). Warning: Please read the "comcen_com_au-Attachment-Warning.txt" attachment(s) for more information. On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 11:14 -0700, Sebastian wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > I have used the compiled driver on 6.3 with success- but then I've used > > the driver linked in a post to drivers list. 7.0 is a no go. > > > > I tried to compile the current OEM Realtek driver under (v176) on fbsd > 6.3, but couldn't get it to build. My foo is a little thin here. :) > > Would you be able to send me your successful 6.3 driver? I'd like to > test it on FreeNAS. > > Thanks, > Sebastian Try this. I'm stress testing atm, but either way it still works. I'm using different hardware (desktops, laptops, multicore, single core, AMD, Intel, high-end and low-end cpus), so I think this accounts for some stalls and latency I've noticed. Cheers (Ignore the previous post I sent) This is a message from the MailScanner E-Mail Virus Protection Service -- The original e-mail attachment "if_rl.ko" is on the list of unacceptable attachments for this site and has been replaced by this warning message. If you wish to receive a copy of the original attachment, please e-mail helpdesk and include the whole of this message in your request. Alternatively, you can call them, with the contents of this message to hand when you call. At Mon Sep 22 14:30:35 2008 the virus scanner said: MailScanner: No programs allowed (if_rl.ko) Note to Help Desk: Look on the comcen_com_au () MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20080922 (message D4E485C2EA6C.3EE8E). -- Postmaster comcen.com.au www.comcen.com.au For all your IT requirements visit: http://www.transtec.co.uk ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Realtek 8111C?
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 09:18 -0700, Sebastian wrote:
> Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > Sebastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'd like to confirm my understanding of current status on this NIC. It
> > > seems, based on some searching, the current Realtek driver in FreeBSD
> > > doesn't support the 8111C, and that although the vendor-supplied driver
> > > _may_ work for older 5.x and 6.0 releases (if one can get it compiled, I
> > > couldn't), it doesn't work in 6.3 or 7. So the RTL8111C is effectively
> > > not supported. True?
> > >
> > > I picked up a nice little Atom board to use as a low-power NAS, and
> > > unfortunately just assumed the onboard Realtek NIC was supported.
> > > Unfortunately I don't have a PCI slot on this mobo to use a different
> > NIC.
> >
> > What vendor ID and product ID, exactly?
> > ("pciconf -lv" will tell.)
> >
> Thanks for all the responses. I've made a little progress as a result.
>
> The computer is an MSI Wind barebone unit with "MS-7418" on the mb.
> Link:
>
> The NIC is an RTL8111C, and here's the output of `pciconf -lv` on FreeBSD 6.3:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x41801462 chip=0x816810ec
> rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
> class = network
> subclass = ethernet
>
> After reading the responses here, I tried the 7.1-beta live CD. It detects the
> NIC, and the output of the above is changed slightly (new name):
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x41801462 chip=0x816810ec
> rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
> class = network
> subclass = ethernet
>
> I was able to bring up the interface using the live CD, and at first glance it
> seems to be working (pings ok), but I didn't stress-test it.
>
> So if all else fails, I will continue using 7.1. But first, since I'm trying
> to
> use FreeNAS, which is FreeBSD 6.3, I thought I'd try copying the driver from
> 7.1.
> The module (if_re.ko) appears to load successfully at boot time, however the
> NIC
> is still not shown in dmesg and unavailable as re0. I admit I don't know if
> this
> should even work (7.1-compiled module on 6.3 kernel). I may be missing
> something.
>
> This machine will run off a CF card, hence the desire to use flash-friendly
> FreeNAS. I do have some experience with NanoBSD, so if I can't get FreeNAS to
> work I'll pursue that with 7.1.
>
> Thanks for any further insights you might have!
There is already a driver available for 6.3, but you need to compile it
yourself. Check the drivers list for details.
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Re: Realtek 8111C?
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 13:21 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Sebastian wrote: > > > I'd like to confirm my understanding of current status on this NIC. It > > seems, > > based on some searching, the current Realtek driver in FreeBSD doesn't > > support the 8111C, and that although the vendor-supplied driver _may_ work > > for older 5.x and 6.0 releases (if one can get it compiled, I couldn't), it > > doesn't work in 6.3 or 7. So the RTL8111C is effectively not supported. > > True? > > A new MSI P45 Neo3-FR motherboard with an 8111C shows it working with > 7.1-PRERELEASE. The support for the 8111C is pretty new (July in CVS), > but so far it seems okay with this instance. > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD lightning 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Sep 19 > 18:48:47 MDT 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > dmesg: > > re0: Ethernet> port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem > 0xfdfff000-0xfdff,0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4 > > pciconf -lv: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x514c1462 chip=0x816810ec > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > ifconfig: > > re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=389b > ether 00:1d:92:f4:02:38 > inet 10.0.0.213 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active I have used the compiled driver on 6.3 with success- but then I've used the driver linked in a post to drivers list. 7.0 is a no go. 7.1 support may be due to the request made in the drivers list that I mentioned. Other than that, good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Wifi and wpa_supplicant
Is it just me or is wpa_supplicant not the best option for auth on wifi?
I have now used several systems with wifi and wpa_supplicant and none
have been capable of maintaining the network connection. I haven't asked
before specifically because I thought it was my aging hardware - but now
I've used new hardware, ral and iwi devices and several combinations
with the same sort of issues. I will also add I've used 6.1, 6.2, 6.3
and 7.0 FBSD.
I have a very simple conf using this:
network={
ssid "my ap"
psk "secret"
}
I have added some other options such as mode=1 and key_mgmt=NONE, but
that hasn't changed anything.
Basically if I go ifconfig then the device simply has no carrier and no
association intermittently. I've tried using keep alive techniques by
using the network, but it can still drop out. I've tried new AP's too.
The only way I can keep the network alive is by killing and restarting
the supplicant.
Another new thing with the ral on one machine is that I have to set the
roaming to auto and scan before it will associate, and even then I can't
get an ip because of drop out.
I've tried various modes and settings with ifconfig and the ap's but
nothing has worked.
Any ideas, or anyone else having the same sort of issues? It appears to
me that wpa_supplicant is not very effective... the only stable
connections I get are using network manager on linux (not my favourite
alternative) and even then I'd rather have more control of my
connection.
Cheers
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Re: Realtek 8111/8168B and Atheros 5100ABGN
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 16:53 -0400, Demian Lessa wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I have a Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC and an Atheros > 5100ABGN wireless adapter on my notebook. > > FreeBSD-7 STABLE cannot configure either card. devinfo shows full info > from the Realtek device and partial info from the Atheros device. In a > nutshell, I have no network connectivity on this box. > > In PC-BSD-7, the Realtek works out of the box, but no luck with the > Atheros card either. The issue here is that I don't know which modules > are different from PC-BSD-7 to FreeBSD-7 STABLE. > > A recent thread I read on the web mentions a problem with 8168B not > working in the stable or current releases (Jul/08 and Aug/08). Could any > kind soul give me a couple pointers on how to get these cards to work on > FreeBSD? I am using PC-BSD for now, but I'd rather use FreeBSD. > > Thanks to all, I've had trouble with the 8111c, but I'm using 6.2 (tried 7 and didn't think it was stable enough for my systems). Their is a 3rd party driver mentioned under the drivers list, but its only suitable for FBSD up to 6.x. Sorry I can't help further, but thats what I know about this hardware. Cheers and good luck -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: NTP authentication using kerberos
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum: > > > > Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server? > > > > Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions > > I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other > > reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be > > included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand, > > there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised, > > so use ntp. > > > > And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp > > and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then > > this could be simpler, yes? > > > > Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think > > I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this? > > I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an > > issue. > > > > One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and > > dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible > > with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too > > ambitious with everything here? :) > > NTP doesn't support Kerberos style authentication. It has it's own > cryptographically secured authentication mechanisms. See ntp-keygen(8) > However, doing the full-blown crypto security thing is generally over the > top for securing simple clients. It's good for NTP servers, especially > if you have your own heirarchy of Stratum 1 and perhaps Stratum 2 servers > and accurate timing really is critical for you. Remember you need at least > three independent time sources -- preferably four to give you some > resilience -- in order to be able to detect if the clock has gone wonky on > any one of your servers. > > For supplying a time signal by multicast or broadcast, you have to enable > key based authentication on all the servers and clients. The basic method > just uses what is effectively an 8 character random string as a password. > This is usually sufficient if all your client machines are on protected back > end networks and taking a time signal from NTP servers entirely in > your control. You need to protect the ntp-keys file from exposure -- I > like to create a root-only directory to hold it: > > mkdir /etc/ntp > mv ntp.keys /etc/ntp/ > chown -R root:wheel /etc/ntp > chmod -R go-rwx /etc/ntp > > For dhcp and DNS security -- there are all sorts of mechanisms for > authenticating and securing transactions between such servers. In the > case of DNS, I suggest you read up on 'Tsig' (Transaction Signatures) > and DNSSEC -- this is a good resource: > > http://www.dnssec.net/why-deploy-dnssec > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Well thats good to know. I'm already using those methods on the dns and dhcp server, seems isc have their own methods in security so I'll just have to stick with those for ntp too. For reference, how does this affect the whole kerberos setup if these services are not in the kerberos system? Does it introduce a security flaw? Any experts out there that can clarify this point? Or should I just run these particular services outside the kerberos system (ie on a separate machine not kerberos secured)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
NTP authentication using kerberos
This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum: Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server? Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand, there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised, so use ntp. And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then this could be simpler, yes? Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this? I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an issue. One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too ambitious with everything here? :) Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
CUPS photo printing
I'm just trying to print some photo's which I haven't done since our total changeover to OSS, not something we get time to do on a regular basis anyway, and I'm testing a Samsung 610ND colour laser printer and a Canon MP750 pixma printer. After some issues with the usb on one laptop (HP - I'd recommend staying clear of), I finally got a couple of samples. I used photo paper one the pixma and high quality colour copy paper in the samsung, and the quality out of the samsung was pretty ordinary (to be expected, it is only a business colour printer) photo wise, but not too bad. When I printed out of the pixma though it was worse! I've seen an bjc3000 print better than that- in fact I haven't seen that quality since the dot matrix days! Obviously I want to fix this so I can get good quality photos out (and yes, I did try the gutenprint to get this), but I was specifically wondering if anyone knows what the basis for the EFI Fiery filters are? I've worked in the print industry (DOD) as well as the tech support for printers, and I know for a fact that Fiery have released several server types with their software for producing photo quality on laser printers, WINNT, linux, osx. They have also embedded their software on chips. This is why Xerox have specifically used Fiery on the majority of their products for this quality that it gives them, though the cost is higher. So I'm kinda curious how they do it. They obviously use a more direct connection to the printer itself, but they would use CUPS as the frontend surely? Besides info on this, I do need to get a good quality photo print out of these printers- why else would we bother with the pixma? Cheers guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
libavcodec miscompiled - running very slow
I installed gmencoder on 6.3 recently (and yes, given that I recently posted all my ports are up to date), but when I run it to encode a movie it comes back on the 2nd pass and says that libavcodec was miscompiled and will be slow (sure is- runs forever getting nowhere). It did recommend compiling on gcc>=4.2, so I installed gcc42 (tried 4.4 and 4.3, but hit issues which I wasn't prepared to overcome especially after a quick search online) and symlinked it to the /usr/bin (renamed the old gcc). But after reinstalling gmencoder, mencoder, and mplayer I still had no success. Any ideas on how to fix this? If I run gcc -dumpversion it comes back with 4.2.4, and searching online I found that ports uses the $path to find gcc, so I'm kinda at a loss here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:03 +0100, Glyn Millington wrote: > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:02 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:46:31AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > >> > I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just > >> > tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It > >> > >> Update your ports tree. The current version in ports is 6.4.1.0. There > >> have been some problems with 6.4.0.7, see > >> http://www.freshports.org/graphics/ImageMagick/ > >> > >> Roland > > > > You'll have to excuse me- I'm not usually such a dunderhead- but how do > > I go about that? I ran portsnap update and it says the tree is up to > > date. > > Shouldn't it be > > > portsnap fetch update > ^ > > atb > > Glyn > I told you I wasn't with it. Of course that works now... I've updated AND installed imagemagick. I use portsnap fetch then portsnap update usually- but of course I forgot the first step in my foggy brain. Thanks for your patience guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 08:02 +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:46:31AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just > > tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It > > Update your ports tree. The current version in ports is 6.4.1.0. There > have been some problems with 6.4.0.7, see > http://www.freshports.org/graphics/ImageMagick/ > > Roland You'll have to excuse me- I'm not usually such a dunderhead- but how do I go about that? I ran portsnap update and it says the tree is up to date. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 23:50 -0400, Matthew Donovan wrote: > I just tried to install imagemagick from ports myself and it installed fine > maybe it's a 6.3 issue since I m on 7.0 or your ports is out of date > considering here the imagemagick port installs ImageMagick-6.4.1.0 > Ok then, it must be a 6.3 issue. I ran portsnap update and the tree is up to date as I thought. The error is a weird one- the patch looking for a directory that isn't there, why would there be a Imagemagick directory under the work directory? And where are all the source files for the build which should be under the work directory? Instead just an empty file named .extract_done.imagemagick._usr_local. I've also looked under /usr/local but I can't find anything there either. > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:53:18AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 17:20 -0700, Johan Dowdy wrote: > > > Did you cvsup before attempting the install? > > > > > > -J > > > > > > > Do you mean update the ports tree? This is a relatively new install of > > 6.3 (last week or so) with a minimal distro and no ports tree installed > > at the time. I run portsnap manually after install nowadays so that the > > latest and greatest is installed from the start. I'll try updating, but > > pkg_version -v seems up to date so I doubt very much it'll make a diff. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Sent: Sun May 11 16:46:31 2008 > > > Subject: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails > > > > > > I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just > > > tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It > > > attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so. > > > I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like > > > (the exact message is on another system atm). > > > > > > All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what > > > I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the > > > essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find > > > a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > ___ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 17:20 -0700, Johan Dowdy wrote: > Did you cvsup before attempting the install? > > -J > Do you mean update the ports tree? This is a relatively new install of 6.3 (last week or so) with a minimal distro and no ports tree installed at the time. I run portsnap manually after install nowadays so that the latest and greatest is installed from the start. I'll try updating, but pkg_version -v seems up to date so I doubt very much it'll make a diff. > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Sun May 11 16:46:31 2008 > Subject: Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails > > I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just > tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It > attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so. > I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like > (the exact message is on another system atm). > > All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what > I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the > essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find > a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later. > > Cheers > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Imagemagick port seems broken - jp2.c patch fails
I may be not thinking straight due to a head cold- in which case just tell me so- but building Imagemagick-6.4.0.7 from ports is failing. It attempts to find Imagemagick folder in the work folder but cannot do so. I ran ls but all it has is .extract.imagemagick._usr_local or the like (the exact message is on another system atm). All I want is to install lives, but this has killed that. Any ideas what I can do? Or is this something to send to the ports list? Time is of the essence here, so thats why I thought somebody here might be able to find a workaround so I can continue for now and post to ports later. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Installing Xorg drivers
I'm working on getting a 7" touchscreen working- I found a uep.ko driver which somebody migrated from netbsd (I know- I'm at the bleeding adge here...) years ago, but I have no idea if there are any updates. For reference the binary page faults, but building the driver seems to work on 6.3. I had to install the compat5x to get some software to work, but my problem now is Xorg won't recognize the drivers. Albeit the drivers are old, and for xfree86-4... I'd like to build them if I can't do anything else. What I'd like answers to are: 1. How does Xorg find the drivers? Does it just go searching the directory? 2. What is the compatibility between Xorgs, and even Xorg and XFree86? 3. Is there a difference between Xorg drivers across platforms? And maybe 4. Has anyone got a driver for the eGalax touchscreen already working? Thanks guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Xorg config
I could use some more detailed information on setting up Xorg- I have a USB Shintaro wireless keyboard with integrated trackball, and a touch screen which is not cooperating with my setup. I tried Xorg -configure, and running xorgconfig, but it still can't seem to find the devices. Another thing is I have disabled mouse for the console, but Xorg still looks to /dev/sysmouse. I'm not sure if this is important or it can be ignored in this case. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
USB nics
Hi guys. I have a little usb nic, and I would like to be able to attach it for service purposes from time to time. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any clear instructions on how to do this, and my time is short. The nic is an AXIS 88772 which I think might be covered by drivers. Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CONTACT FEDEX DELIVERY COMPANY LTD.
Are these guys getting dumber, or are do they think we are? On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 20:25 +1000, FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY wrote: > Attention, > > Please be informed that I have Paid for the delivery fee for your Cheque > Draft. But the manager of Intercontinental Bank Plc told me that before the > check will get to you that it will expire. So i told him to cash $800, > 000.00. all the necessary arrangement of delivering the $800, 000.00 in cash > was made with FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY. so they have aggreed to send it > to you. > > Below is the needed information to enable them deliver the fund to you > immediately. the only fee you have to pay to them is $100 usd that they will > use in obtaining the fund's insurance certificate and claims of affadvite > that will prove that this parcel consist of total sum of $800.000.00 belong > to you. Then be rest assure that all other fees have been paid by me. > > 1.YOUR FULL NAME > 2.YOUR HOME ADDRESS. > 3.YOUR CURRENT HOME TELEPHONE NUMBER > 4.YOUR CURRENT OFFICE TELEPHONE. > 5.A COPY OF YOUR PICTURE > 6.COMPANY REGISTRATION NOAF70945 > 7.CODE NUMBER2178234 > > Now contact FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY'S DIRECTOR Mr. Cambell at ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) for the sending of the fund to you. Please make sure you send the > above needed information to them. > > Note: The FEDEX COURIER DELIVERY COMPANY LTD don't know the contents of the > Box. I registered it as a Box of family valuable belongs. They don't know it > contents fund. this is to avoid them delaying with the Box. Besides, don't > let them know that is money that is in that Box.I am waiting for your urgent > response. > > Thanks. > Bruno Brawn > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:18 -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > > > > Da Rock wrote: > >> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> > >>> Da Rock wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard > >>>> (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this > >>>> before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation > >>>> found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there > >>>> was no support for it in the hcl's. > >>>> > >>>> Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a > >>>> driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one > >>>> work? Anyone know how to install it? > >>>> > >>>> The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the > >>>> readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the > >>>> conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to > >>>> rebuild the kernel? > >>>> > >>>> Cheers guys > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought > >>> a similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme > >>> describes two "methods" of installation but the first one simply does > >>> not apply (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not > >>> tried the second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl > >>> and re from the kernel will remove the built-in support (it could > >>> conflict with the new driver) and create a module for the new driver. > >>> Note that you are also asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src > >>> directories. In fact it is better to build as a module - building it > >>> into the kernel may well leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is > >>> not compatible. > >>> > >>> As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on > >>> this box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - > >>> and I may be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will > >>> be interested in the results. > >>> > >> > >> Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the > >> kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and > >> the build for the driver is for a module. > >> > >> Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort > >> (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions). > >> My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work > >> on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)? > >> > > I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to > > 6.X for this. > > I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the > > module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC. > > I will post the results later today. > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > I have replaced 8111c. Use Tealtek 8169 1000.pci cards on FreeBSD 7/8 > I saw reports on this list about 8111c being a bad nic. > So I changed and the 8169 is really great. Yeah, me too now. I tried building the ndis driver, the driver for the realtek 8111c- all NG. I think someone is going to have to build this properly at some stage. Apparently the driver is only supposed to work in 6 but I couldn't get it to work. As for the ifconfig up settings, I was using sysinstall... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 14:38 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:08 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Da Rock wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard > >>>>> (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this > >>>>> before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation > >>>>> found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there > >>>>> was no support for it in the hcl's. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a > >>>>> driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one > >>>>> work? Anyone know how to install it? > >>>>> > >>>>> The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the > >>>>> readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the > >>>>> conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to > >>>>> rebuild the kernel? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers guys > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a > >>>> similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes > >>>> two "methods" of installation but the first one simply does not apply > >>>> (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the > >>>> second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the > >>>> kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new > >>>> driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also > >>>> asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories. In fact it > >>>> is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well > >>>> leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible. > >>>> > >>>> As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this > >>>> box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may > >>>> be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested > >>>> in the results. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the > >>> kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and > >>> the build for the driver is for a module. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort > >>> (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions). > >>> My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work > >>> on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)? > >>> > >>> > >> I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to > >> 6.X for this. > >> I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the > >> module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC. > >> I will post the results later today. > >> > >> > > > > Ok, I have good news and bad news. > > > > Good news: the driver compiles under 6.2. > > > > Bad news: it doesn't work. > > > > I tried a new cable, dhcp, manual config- could not get it to > > communicate. First sign was that it couldn't get an ip from dhcp. Then I > > tried pinging dns name, then local address- NG. When I tried the cable > > the NIC led didn't come back on, and the indication leds on the switch > > were slowly blinking. Something is seriously wrong... > > > > Any ideas about this guys? > > > > > > > Maybe it gets stuck in the auto-negotiation phase, trying to determine > link speed? > > Give it a bit of manual help, something like: > > ifconfig rl0 inet 192.168.0.25 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX I have to admit I hadn't thought of that, and I did just check it now, but thats not the case here. The NIC led is not on at all, only the switch led is blinking slowly. No, I believe this could be one for the experts- any out there? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 11:08 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard > >>> (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this > >>> before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation > >>> found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there > >>> was no support for it in the hcl's. > >>> > >>> Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a > >>> driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one > >>> work? Anyone know how to install it? > >>> > >>> The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the > >>> readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the > >>> conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to > >>> rebuild the kernel? > >>> > >>> Cheers guys > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a > >> similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes > >> two "methods" of installation but the first one simply does not apply > >> (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the > >> second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the > >> kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new > >> driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also > >> asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories. In fact it > >> is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well > >> leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible. > >> > >> As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this > >> box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may > >> be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested > >> in the results. > >> > > > > Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the > > kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and > > the build for the driver is for a module. > > > > Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort > > (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions). > > My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work > > on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)? > > > I hope realtek releases a driver for 7. I would not want to go back to > 6.X for this. > I have a 6.3 server, and can give it a try - as far as compiling the > module, not actually using it, I don't have the NIC. > I will post the results later today. > Ok, I have good news and bad news. Good news: the driver compiles under 6.2. Bad news: it doesn't work. I tried a new cable, dhcp, manual config- could not get it to communicate. First sign was that it couldn't get an ip from dhcp. Then I tried pinging dns name, then local address- NG. When I tried the cable the NIC led didn't come back on, and the indication leds on the switch were slowly blinking. Something is seriously wrong... Any ideas about this guys? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: RTL8111C driver for FBSD7
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:11 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard > > (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this > > before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation > > found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there > > was no support for it in the hcl's. > > > > Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a > > driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one > > work? Anyone know how to install it? > > > > The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the > > readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the > > conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to > > rebuild the kernel? > > > > Cheers guys > > > > > > > I've seen this driver too (I've investigated for a friend who bought a > similar motherboard that otherwise works with 7). The readme describes > two "methods" of installation but the first one simply does not apply > (there is no modules directory in the download). I have not tried the > second method (looks reasonable though). Removing the rl and re from the > kernel will remove the built-in support (it could conflict with the new > driver) and create a module for the new driver. Note that you are also > asked to replace the files in the FreeBSD src directories. In fact it > is better to build as a module - building it into the kernel may well > leave you with an unbootable kernel if it is not compatible. > > As I said, I have not done this (my friend will be running Linux on this > box) but as more and more recent mobos seem to use this NIC - and I may > be buying one- if you are willing to give it a try, I will be interested > in the results. Well I just tried it- I put this out there for some feedback mainly- the kernel rebuild is to remove the old rl and re drivers completely, and the build for the driver is for a module. Unfortunately the result is a failure: compatibility issues or some sort (argument warnings, not enough args, invalid variables and functions). My question is will I find something to work for 7? If not, will it work on 6.2 or 6.3 (it only says 6 in the readme's)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RTL8111C driver for FBSD7
Hey, hey... I made a boo boo and ordered a unit with this nic onboard (truthfully, I never thought I'd have any trouble since I had done this before). Loaded 7 and couldn't find the nic. A little investigation found that the nic was the above, and a little further found that there was no support for it in the hcl's. Now I do find it hard to believe there is no way around this- I found a driver for FBSD4.5-6, is there one for 6.2 or higher? Or will this one work? Anyone know how to install it? The driver is only a c and a h file- Makefile is an empty file, and the readme tells me to rebuild the kernel after removing rl and re in the conf. Then I build the driver, and kldload it. Any idea why I'd have to rebuild the kernel? Cheers guys ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: How can I access video tape under FBSD?
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 20:28 +0200, Frank Wißmann wrote: > Hi, folks! > I have bought for myself a taperecorder-to-usb-connector, which I wrote > in /etc/usbd.conf as following: > Device "Video tape" > Product "0x2821" > Vendor "0xeb1a" > > Now I want to move all of my archived video tapes to harddisk/DVD. How > can I perform this, that means how can I access my tape recorder, put > the files onto HD and view it, meaning what kind of program is capable > of doing so? Mplayer would be fine because I have it just installed> A couple of ways to do this- depends on space and quality required. If you have space and want quality, capture the data raw from the tuner and then use mencoder to convert to mpeg/divx/whatever(30-40Gb+ 3hr tape). If space is at a premium, or quality is not as important, then use ffmpeg and convert on the fly. Need a fairly new cpu, plenty of RAM. This all very general, but good luck... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 00:15 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:36:26 Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > > > On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: > > > > On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: > > > > >> Hi, All. > > > > >> > > > > >> Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use > > > > >> saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv > > > > >> runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin... > > > > >> > > > > >> How to test tuner and drivers works or not. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get > > > > > the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. > > > > > > > > saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver > > > > homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary > > > > bsd-patche within distrib tarball > > > > > > I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. > > > > Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally > > supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly). > > Avermedia is not a type or brand of tuner. They're a HW company that assemble > certain cards/sticks from parts such as tuners, decoders etc. > > > > > That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had > > Saa driver is still available from purpe.com, but only from a direct download > link (there's no page anymore): > > http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz > > > no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled > > with support for the driver, not the driver itself. > > kbtv1 includes it also, for convenience, and because its needed for the saa > backend anyway (well, some header). > > The saa driver only covers video and audio (I only use "shunted" audio with > kbtv, not real audio capture). Tuner support is all userspace (directly via > iic device). The generic tuner support that comes with the driver (as example > sort of) seems to indicate that this is for a class of tuners that has three > fixed bands and must be set to switch between it (as in Philips reference > design). TDA and MKn init require some extra iic babble. > > Modern silicon tuners work differently and have quite different registers > that > need to be set for tuning. You'll have to excuse me presumption here (I'll normally read all messages before adding to a thread), but you sound like a very good source of info here. May I ask you if you can supply some references to what you're posting here? I'd like to investigate this much further... Also, I thought I read somewhere that firmware is used in most tuners. Plus I found the linux drivers use firmware to make this work. Just a thought. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 10:37 -0400, David Robillard wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to "attempt" to try it out > > for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed > > for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it > > possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client > > required for these other apps? > > You can always remove the old client and install the new version. You > simply need to shutdown the services which depend on the client before > you remove the old one and install the new one. Then start the > services again. Of course you should do this on a test machine and > make sure all your applications work as expected with the new client > (i.e. don't do this on your production machine AND backup before you > do!). > > For what it's worth, I've removed and installed the OpenLDAP client > from a few machines and never had any problems with Apache nor with > PHP. But I did have a problem with sudo(8). If you use sudo (you > probably should IMHO) and it was compiled with LDAP support, then the > minute you remove the old OpenLDAP client, sudo will be broken. It's > easy to work around this by using su(1) and switch to root. Of course, > make sure you know the root password and that you're part of the wheel > group before you do this. > > Here's how I proceed to update the OpenLDAP client. I use SASL also, > but it's not mandatory. Notice that I run a first make(1) without > options. This will help reduce the time required between the `make > deinstall` and `make install clean`. > > cd /usr/ports/net/openldap24-sasl-client > sudo make > sudo /all/your/ldap/dependent/applications/rc.d/scripts stop > sudo make deinstall > sudo make install clean > sudo /all/your/ldap/dependent/applications/rc.d/scripts start > > Also, on a side note, I would suggest adding a few lines to > make.conf(5) so that all your applications will require the same > OpenLDAP versions (and the same Berkeley DB too). That change did help > me quite a lot. The downside of this is that if you have many hosts, > you may have to edit quite a few make.conf(5) files when either > OpenLDAP or BDB changes versions. Using rsync, rdist > > WANT_OPENLDAP_VER= 24 > WITH_BDB_VER= 46 > > Good luck with OpenLDAP. Should you need help with it, SASL and > Kerberos integration, feel free to contact me. I did just get it worked out, but those other apps were worrying me (see last post). At least I know where to look now... I am very interested in kerberos integration if you could provide some hints. I looked into before for another reason and set it aside in the too hard basket for a while... I posted back to the list to help others if they're interested too. One thing, I installed the lam webapp for administration (and I did also try this manually too) but when I'm asked for a password I have no idea what password its looking for (I do feel rather stupid!). This was something I was going to try to solve next time I get back to this project- it was late at night and I had only just got it installed and running. It says in the install guide that it will ask for the secret once you add a ldif file, so I assumed it would set it then- I was wrong... Thanks for the help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[SOLVED] Re: Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:44 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I sent this to ports but then reconsidered this- I thought ports was for > ports errors, but a quick look back and it mostly seems to be just for > testing. Anyway, I hope I rectified this sufficiently... > > I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to "attempt" to try it out > for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed > for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it > possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client > required for these other apps? > > And while I'm here... I tried installing the odbc backend, but it > conflicts with other apps as well. How can I have both the libiodbc and > unixodbc at the same time for openldap server (requires libiodbc), php5, > etc? > > Cheers For reference, my fears were unfounded- the ports guys did help me out, it is in their jurisdiction. Secondly, when installing the server the client options need to match. Plus the versions need to match. I had 2.3.38 client, the server was 2.3.40. Plus I had just the client, the server I was installing had sasl support so it was installing sasl-ldap client. In the process of my investigations and experiments I think I managed to stuff some of my installed ports, but I will cross that bridge when I get to it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Openldap server install failure - openldap client conflict
I sent this to ports but then reconsidered this- I thought ports was for ports errors, but a quick look back and it mostly seems to be just for testing. Anyway, I hope I rectified this sufficiently... I'm trying to install OpenLDAP as a server to "attempt" to try it out for our network. The problem is the openldap client is already installed for other apps as php, apache, asterisk, etc. So my question is: is it possible to uninstall the client? Will the server include the client required for these other apps? And while I'm here... I tried installing the odbc backend, but it conflicts with other apps as well. How can I have both the libiodbc and unixodbc at the same time for openldap server (requires libiodbc), php5, etc? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 10:43 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: > On 15.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: > > How I can test my tuner? I'm newbee to bsd and can't understan why > tuner do not works, than driver loaded without errors > Sorry for the diversion. Try sysctl -a and grep for saa- if that fails, check manually. I'm no guru, I'm afraid. Someone else may have a better way to do this, but this should head you along the right direction. Post your results, plus dmesg (just type "dmesg" - any user should be fine). We'll go from there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: > On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: > > On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: > > >> Hi, All. > > >> > > >> Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use > > >> saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs, > > >> but freeze on begin chanel tunin... > > >> > > >> How to test tuner and drivers works or not. > > > > > > I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the > > > drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. > > > > saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver > > homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary > > bsd-patche within distrib tarball > > I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly). That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled with support for the driver, not the driver itself. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: > Hi, All. > > Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use > saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs, > but freeze on begin chanel tunin... > > How to test tuner and drivers works or not. > I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DHCP problem.Help please
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 14:43 +0800, Ruel Luchavez wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I hope some one will me on my problem.
> My friends has and existing DHCP server and squid proxy server running both
> in freebsd.We purchased a new desktop PC, we gave it a permanent IP using
> the DHCP server and we edit the config file in "/usr/local/etc/dhcp.conf" we
> add this at the bottom
>
> host test {
> hardware ethernet 00:1d:27:64:e1:af; [this is the physical address of new
> PC]
> fixed address 192.168.1.16;
> }
>
> But as we "ipconfig" the new PC the IP is still the same?
> Is there something i forgot to configure?
>
> PLEASE HELP here...thanks in adnvanced
So you used dhcp to obtain an ip prior to setting up a fixed address on
the dhcp server? If so you may have to clear your dhclient.leases file-
rename to .old (correct me if theres a better way to do this anyone).
When testing, use dhcpd -d - this will run the dhcp server in the
foreground so you can see any messages realtime which you can then post
here if need be. Also, send the entries in your log files.
Good luck.
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Samsung 610ND printer
Has anyone had any experience with this printer? Is it easy to setup in CUPS? Print quality? Photo quality? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Printer getting attached to umass and da
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 18:33 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Saturday 12 April 2008 05:32:25 pm Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > On Saturday 12 April 2008 04:29:20 pm Warren Block wrote: > > >> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > >>> From messages: > > >>> messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: ulpt0: > >>> MFP(Hi-Speed), class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2> on uhub4 > > >>> messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: umass0: > >>> MFP(Hi-Speed), class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2> on uhub4 > > >>> messages:Apr 12 09:39:55 laptop kernel: da0: > >>> 1.00> Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > > >>> > > >>> Why is it getting attached to umass and da? > > >> > > >> Most likely the printer has memory card slots that are accessible via > > >> USB. > > >> > > >>> Should I config something to stop this? > > >> > > >> Not unless it's causing a problem. > > >> > > >> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > > > > > > It does have slots for memory... > > > I can't get this printer to work, and the cups error_log shows no errors. > > > I had been reading a HOW-TO on the CUPS site and I set the loglevel to > > > debug, figuring I'd get a message about a broken pipe due to a missing > > > filter. No such luck. Far as CUPS is concerned, it's working. But it only > > > feeds sheet after sheet and occasionally prints garbage. > > > I've tried CUPS test page and a one sheet doc from KATE. > > > The gutenprint doc says I should have an Epson backend > > > in /usr/lib/cups/backend (but I think on freebsd it will be > > > in /usr/local/libexec/cups/backend). > > > But it's not there... > > > ___ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > Remove the umass driver from the kernel (you have to recompile) and then > > configure printer. Then load > > umass driver after the boot with kldload utility since otherwise you > > will not be able to use Floppy disk and USB sticks > > > > Cheers, > > Predrag > > Thanks for the suggestion, but after removing the umass driver, the printer > still dosen't work. > I did verify with usbdevs -dv that umass is not attached to the printer > anymore... I'd say you better find a way to get that Epson backend installed- not much else is going to make a difference here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 20:15 -0400, Eduardo Cerejo wrote: > > There's already a MacOS version available: > > > > http://silverlight.net/GetStarted/ > > That's what I said > > > and support for linux as well: > > > > http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight > > It looks like gnash for silverlight, it will always be a step behind like > gnash. Actually the politics of mono suggest that M$ is behind it anyway, so maybe not... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 00:43 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > Thanks to all the input I found a solution what works for me: > > FreeBSD 7.0 and Firefox 3.0a2 (the firefox-devel port) > > 1. I deinstalled swfdec. > 2. Closed Firefox and renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.backup > 3. Started firefox so to generate a new and clean .mozilla > 4. #make install /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper > 5. Downloaded > http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux > --the .tar.gz format. > 6. Extract libflashplayer.so from install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz and > copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins > 7. Then, as normal user: > $nspluginwrapper -v -a -i (to install) > $nspluginwrapper -l (to check if its installed) > 8. Copied the settings, like bookmarks.html and other stuff like themes from > .mozilla.backup to .mozilla (dont copy the whole bunch back not to overwrite > the plugin settings) > 9. My /etc/rc.conf has the entry linux_enable="YES" -- I suppose this is > necessary. > > That way you can enter the wonderful world of annoying advertisment even > without using Windows.. Good to know. I was going to have a crack at it again once I got the chance... Can you whip up a how-to for a newbie so we can direct them to there in the future? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:00 -0400, Gerard wrote: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:15:50 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > PLEASE CONTACT ADOBE. TELL THEM TO RELEASE A FLASH PLUGIN FOR > > > FREEBSD. > > >There are more and more websites you cannot even enter without a > > >running Flash Player. > > > > so don't watch them. their author definitely are not interested in > > providing real information, as it can't go without flash. > > > > while there is a lot of pages that are unreadable without flash, non > > of them contain useful informations. > > I find that assumption grossly inaccurate. I have experienced > difficulties numerous times trying to access financial institutions > without a working flash plug-in. I just had another bad experience with > a linksys site using Opera: > > http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1175238286492&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=8649286492H30&displaypage=download > > The lack of an easy to install and maintain flash program is one of the > main reasons I maintain a WinXP machine. Not the only reason perhaps, > but nevertheless an important one. Pity you would think that you have to corrupt your network with this machine! At least you could use linux... > > > > If many of the BSD community ask for it, they probably will > > >release a BSD Version.. > > > > they should do it alone, not be asked for it. they know that FreeBSD > > exist, and they know that it's just matter of recompiling. But they > > don't release FreeBSD version. so they don't willingly. > > > > They are not idiots, and they already calculated well if providing > > FreeBSD version will be good for them of not. > > > > > > don't be anyone's slave and simply don't use this crap at all. > > whatever you use freebsd or not > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > >> Hi Volodymyr, > >> I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to > >> play recent Flash pages. > >> I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to > >> enter some websites.. > > > > I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business > > might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > It's going to be interesting when microsoft's silverlight comes out, it > is supposed to be superior to flash, if it becomes popular even the > linux community will have problems because I really doubt that they will > release a plugin for other OSes other than Mac OS any way. > Yes, but like any other crap they put out I'm sure we'll find a way around it... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 16:35 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> > >>> Da Rock wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Da Rock wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the > >>>>>> voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I > >>>>>> need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > >>>>>> little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while > >>>>>> she's > >>>>>> in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't > >>>>>> want > >>>>>> to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > >>>>>> shrieks when I unplug the power... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed > >>>> units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA. > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all > >>> their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd) program ( > >>> which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored > >>> in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good > >>> actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;) > >>> > >>> > >> So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me... > >> > > > > I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they > > confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of > > their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it? > > > > I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another > > windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I > > wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- "I wouldn't corrupt my > > network with M$"!!! > > > > > I assure you, apcupsd has this option. Here is a direct paste from my > freebsd server: > > Please select the function you want to perform. > > 1) Test kill UPS power > 2) Perform self-test > 3) Read last self-test result > 4) Change battery date > 5) View battery date > 6) View manufacturing date > 7) Set alarm behavior > 8) Set sensitivity > 9) Quit > > Select function number: 7 > > Current alarm setting: DISABLED > Press... > E to Enable alarms > D to Disable alarms > Q to Quit with no changes > Your choice: > > You can access this by running apctest as root. It is installed as part > of sysutils/apcupsd. You should however stop the apcupsd monitoring > daemon before running apctest. I figured this was the case of M$ misinformation again. Cool- I've made the right choice then. I ordered one based on the fact that at worst I could run either window$ in a VM, or wine, or that window$ lookalike in a VM. But this is much better... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:24 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > > > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > > >> > > >>> This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the > > >>> voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I > > >>> need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > > >>> little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's > > >>> in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want > > >>> to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > > >>> shrieks when I unplug the power... > > >>> > > >> Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-) > > >> > > > > > > I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed > > > units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA. > > > > > > ___ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > > I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all > > their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd) program ( > > which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored > > in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good > > actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;) > > > > So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me... I just confirmed with APC regarding this software setting, and they confirmed it- but stated categorically that only the Window$ software of their making could do it. Can you confirm the BSD software will do it? I think I shocked the guy when he suggested just hook up to another windows box to change the setting, then put it on whatever machine I wanted, and I told him that was near impossible- "I wouldn't corrupt my network with M$"!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Adobe Flash Player Petition
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:15 +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Volodymyr, > I already use swfdec, but the curent port gets old too and doesnt seem to > play recent Flash pages. > I dont care about the animations, but it is frustrating not being able to > enter some websites.. I'd say talking to the web designers and drawing away Adobe's business might be a better angle at this point. They won't listen to most OSS... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:02 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > > > >> Da Rock wrote: > >> > >>> This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the > >>> voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I > >>> need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > >>> little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's > >>> in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want > >>> to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > >>> shrieks when I unplug the power... > >>> > >> Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-) > >> > > > > I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed > > units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA. > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > I've got a couple of cheap APC models (RS500). You can turn off all > their alert signals using the apcupsd ( sysutils/apcupsd) program ( > which is of course used for automatic shutdowns). The setting is stored > in UPS memory (probably flash or EEPROM) and is retained. This is good > actually, since one of these is pretty close to my bedroom ;) > So it can be switched off with the software? That could work for me... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 23:45 +0200, Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the > > voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I > > need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > > little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's > > in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want > > to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > > shrieks when I unplug the power... > > Just crack open the UPS box and cut the wires to the loudspeaker :-) I thought of that- but how do you do that with those little sealed units? I'm looking at a small consumer unit around 500-700VA. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 17:10 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the > > voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I > > need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my > > little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's > > in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want > > to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any > > shrieks when I unplug the power... > > Last I checked, that was called a laptop. > > If for some incomprehensible reason a laptop doesn't work then the answer > is going to be specific to the brand/model of UPS you have. > I have 2 of those, and both in use... Plus, she can't use a keyboard yet, so I don't want clutter- the unit will be hidden away, and only screen will be seen by the child (ATM anyway). And, again, costs are an issue... I don't have one yet, but I was hoping someone might have a suggestion as to which one might be capable of switching off the audio alert. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
A silent UPS - (A little OT, I know...)
This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute the voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one- I need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while she's in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't want to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any shrieks when I unplug the power... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: trying atausb instead of umass, part 2
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 10:53 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Friday 04 April 2008 09:03:33 am Da Rock wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 08:16 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > On Thursday 03 April 2008 04:38:27 am Dieter wrote: > > > > [ no replies from -drivers, so added -questions ] > > > > > > I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists > > > and couldn't find a freebsd-drivers list. Perhaps that's why you didn't > > > get any replies? > > > > Then this would be a figment of our imagination? :) > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > I think the link I provided before was just the "search the list > archives". -drivers should be added to it... > > I went back and looked at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL > and it IS listed there. > > A small task for the webmaster 8o) > > I was searching the archives because I wanted to see his previous posts, > since > this one was labeled "part 2". > Ahh, I see. Actually I looked through some of the archives and that posting must have been a while back because I can't find it either. By a while I mean more than a month- since I subscribed. Meanwhile, the OP is still waiting for an answer... :) I'll have to go back and check what the question was I think. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: trying atausb instead of umass, part 2
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 08:16 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Thursday 03 April 2008 04:38:27 am Dieter wrote: > > [ no replies from -drivers, so added -questions ] > > I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists > and couldn't find a freebsd-drivers list. Perhaps that's why you didn't get > any replies? Then this would be a figment of our imagination? :) http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Way way way OT: Some interesting facts about politics, campaigns, and servers
I picked this up on fedora list, and of course they were cheering the linux results, but I was rather pleased with the FreeBSD results- particularly on the democrats chart. http://www.douglaskarr.com/2007/06/23/2008-elections-by-server/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT] Re: SCSI network
On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 14:45 +0200, User Wojtek wrote: > > May I ask how that works? Everything I've read about scsi is that the > > throughput determines the standard: so 320MB has a throughput of ~320MB. > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi) > > there is a bit (exactly 8 times) difference between megabit and megabyte > Ahh! I see now the reference in the footnote. I was under the impression that the data throughput was measured the same as the throughput for most other data interfaces (USB, Firewire, Ethernet, Serial, Parallel, etc...), hence my confusion. No wonder I've never been that impressed with scsi... Can anyone tell me why this break in convention? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[OT] Re: SCSI network
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 16:41 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> unmanaged switch will work much better :) > >> > > > > I'd agree with that 100%- do the bandwidth math (not to mention the ease > > of setup): gigabit each way compared to a max of 320mb (I could be wrong > > on the exact figures, but the gigabit is still faster). > > > 320MB is 2560Mb not 320Mb > > 160MB/s is above gigabit ethernet speed - half duplex, but when traffic > goes mostly one direction - it's not a problem. > Learn something new everyday... May I ask how that works? Everything I've read about scsi is that the throughput determines the standard: so 320MB has a throughput of ~320MB. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scsi) > > > Setup a small private network between the machines in question and > > everything would be happy. > > of course - but just asked as i have a bunch of unused U160 controllers > and cables. > Fair enough- I'd probably do the same. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: SCSI network
On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 22:34 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 29), Wojciech Puchar said: > > i have few Ultra160 SCSI controllers and two Ultra40, cables and few > > machines that needs fast interconnect. i could use one gigabit card on each > > machine+switch, but i already have it! > > > > can i make external SCSI bus through all machines and use it to transmit IP > > packets? > > > > they are all adaptec (ahc driver) controllers - manual says it can be > > target as well as initiator > > I've never seen a SCSI IP implementation, but I guess it's > theoretically possible. Since SCSI uses a shared bus, though, the best > you could get would be a half-duplex network. Gigabit NICs and a cheap > unmanaged switch will work much better :) > I'd agree with that 100%- do the bandwidth math (not to mention the ease of setup): gigabit each way compared to a max of 320mb (I could be wrong on the exact figures, but the gigabit is still faster). Setup a small private network between the machines in question and everything would be happy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [Fwd: Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?]
On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 21:23 +, Vince wrote: > I believe there was a (work in progess) driver for at least one type of > these card readers > http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/sdmmc-freebsd-driver-outline.html > > No idea as to current status. You could ask on freebsd-mobile I guess. > (I have a Ricoh based one in my laptop but never use it so dont miss it.) > > > Vince Yeah, I found the mailing list stable had a thread but it trails off at the end of last year. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[Fwd: Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?]
--- Begin Message --- Some more info on this- I've just loaded 7.0 on the laptop and got this from dmesg: pci6: at device 6.3 (no driver attached) pci6: at device 6.4 (no driver attached) Does this jog anyone's thoughts? Which driver would it be looking for? And then how would I attach the driver? devd.rules? On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:57 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I must be the only one who has this... Can anyone redirect me to a list, > resource, whatever that my give me some clue to this problem? > > Cheers > > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it > > requires a thread of its own. > > > > I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able > > to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do > > with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so > > this shouldn't be a problem. > > > > In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which > > gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so > > I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs: > > > > Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia > > Controller > > 02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments > > PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller > > > > I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move > > over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I > > seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping. > > > > The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including > > xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work. > > > > Any links and info would be very appreciated. > > > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: cursive fonts?
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 22:30 -0500, Mark Kane wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008, at 12:49:40 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > > > This is a quick one: how/where can I get a cursive font > > > for abiword? or even OO? > > > > > > gary > > > > You can look for urw fonts in the ports - this was the best I could > > find, anyway. If you find anymore please let me know what you find. > > Hi. > > In addition to the fonts in ports you could also try a font site like > dafont.com. Just extract the .ttf file(s) into ~/.fonts/ and restart > your application. > > Hope that helps, > > -Mark > I wasn't aware of that. Don't they have to be registered with the font server though? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: cursive fonts?
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 16:52 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > > This is a quick one: how/where can I get a cursive font > for abiword? or even OO? > > gary > > You can look for urw fonts in the ports - this was the best I could find, anyway. If you find anymore please let me know what you find. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Permission to publish article
Out of sheer curiosity- is this spam? Is there any reference to the "paint" on FreeBSD? I can't imagine where it would be used... On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 08:23 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To Whom It May Concern: > > > > I am executive assistant to Mr. Alan Hess, author of the copyrighted article > "If Airlines Sold Paint" originally published in Travel Weekly in October of > 1998. Since that time, the "Paint" satire has been widely circulated on the > Internet, without any citation of authorship. Mr. Hess is flattered that > you like his work well enough to include it on your website. > > > > When he has been asked for permission to print it in various publications, > including university text books, Mr. Hess has freely given that permission. > If you wish to continue to use the article, please include the following > citation: > > > > Printed with permission. C Alan H. Hess, 1998. All rights reserved. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Stacy Hoeksel > > Assistant to Alan H. Hess > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > The correct text of the satire is as follows: > > > > If airlines sold paint > > > > Buying paint from a hardware store > > Customer: Hi, how much is your paint? > > Clerk: We have regular quality for $12 a gallon and > premium for $18. How many gallons would you like? > > Customer: Five gallons of regular quality, please. > > Clerk: Great. That will be $60 plus tax. > > > > > > Buying paint from an airline > > Customer: Hi, how much is your paint? > > Clerk: Well, sir, that all depends. > > Customer Depends on what? > > Clerk: Well, actually a lot of things. > > Customer: How about just giving me an average price? > > Clerk: Wow, that's just too hard a question. The lowest > price is $9 a gallon, and we have 150 prices up to about $200 a gallon. > > Customer: What's the difference in the paint? > > Clerk: Oh, there isn't any difference; it's all the same > paint. > > Customer: Well then, I'd like some of that $9 paint. > > Clerk: Well, first I need to ask you a few questions. > When do you intend to use it? > > Customer: I want to paint tomorrow on my day off. > > Clerk: Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint. > > Customer: What? When would I have to paint in order to get the > $9 version? > > Clerk: That would be in three weeks, but you will also > have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue > painting until at least Sunday. > > Customer: You've got to be kidding! > > Clerk: Sir, we don't kid around here. Of course, I'll > have to check to see if we have any of that paint available before I can > sell it to you. > > Customer: What do you mean check to see if you can sell it to > me? You have shelves full of the stuff; I can see it right there. > > Clerk: Just because you can see it doesn't mean that we > have it. It may be the same paint, but we only sell a certain number of > gallons on any given weekend. Oh, and by the way, the price just went to > $12. > > Customer: What! You mean the price just went up while we were > talking! > > Clerk: Yes sir. You see, we change prices and rules > thousands of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out the > store with your paint yet, we just decided to change. Unless you want the > same thing to happen again, I would suggest that you get on with your > purchase. How many gallons do you want? > > Customer: I don't know exactly. Maybe five gallons. Maybe I > should buy six gallons just to make sure I have enough. > > Clerk: Oh no, sir, you can't do that. If you buy the > paint and then don't use it, you will be liable for penalties and possible > confiscation of the paint you already have. > > Customer: What? > > Clerk: That's right. We can sell you enough paint to do > your kitchen, bathroom, hall, and north bedroom, but if you stop painting > before you do the bedroom, you will be in violation of our tariffs. > > Customer: But what does it matter to you whether I use all the > paint? I already paid you for it! > > Clerk: Sir, there's no point in getting upset; that's > just the way it is. We make plans based upon the idea that you will use all > the paint, and when you don't, it just causes us all sorts of problems. > > Customer: This is crazy! I suppose something terrible will > happen if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night! > > Clerk: Yes, sir, it will. > > Customer: We
Re: Card readers - Does anyone know where to get help for this?
I must be the only one who has this... Can anyone redirect me to a list, resource, whatever that my give me some clue to this problem? Cheers On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I have mentioned this before in other threads, but it appears it > requires a thread of its own. > > I have a laptop with a card reader built in which I have never been able > to get to work. Everything I have looked up regarding these has to do > with usb versions, and other than the laptops my card readers are usb so > this shouldn't be a problem. > > In the laptops I have a texas instruments PCI card reader though, which > gives me a real headache. I can't seem to get them to operate at all, so > I'm left wondering about drivers and such. These are the specs: > > Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia > Controller > 02:09.4 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments > PCI6411/6421/6611/6621/7411/7421/7611/7621 Secure Digital Controller > > I'm currently running Fedora (which seems to work), but I'd like to move > over to FreeBSD as soon as I can get all the features needed on these. I > seem to be making headway on most of these, so here's hoping. > > The card reader is capable of reading nearly all format cards, including > xD which is a main reason why I'd like to get it to work. > > Any links and info would be very appreciated. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
DDNS, ISC-DHCPD, and Bind... not working because of strange error messages
I did actually manage to get this to work, and I can't exactly work out
what changed to cause this error.
I set this up at the end of last year, and it worked- kind of. The
failure was my own by not using a proper FQDN, but it worked
unofficially anyway. Records were updating etc: all happy.
Anyway, I finally got the FQDN worked out (split horizon dns- external
and internal views), but I find that the ddns is not working: and not
because of the changes I made. I looked back and found the problem going
on for month. My messages file has these entries, and no amount of
googling has brought me any closer to finding out what they could mean,
or why my clients aren't updating:
Mar 27 16:18:54 {$HOSTNAME} dhcpd: pool.ntp.org: no A record associated
with address
I've edited the hostname to protect the innocent.
What I can't figure out is why would dhcpd be looking at pool.ntp.org? I
ran a dig on pool.ntp.org on the off chance it was busted- but of course
it was not. And this record pops up everytime I renew my ip addresses.
Weird...
Little help anyone?
Cheers
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Re: OT: (Way OT) PHP and MySQL concurrency control using MyISAM tables
On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 17:01 -0700, Patrick C wrote: > MyISAM supports locking (like all engines) but not transactions. Without > transactions, you can do a lock lock a table or tables, and unlock them, > however you cannot roll back statements -- so if a statement down the line > fails for some reason there is no way to rollback and undo past statements > (automagically at least) > > The simple solution is to use InnoDB, which supports Good Things you want - > it's more scalable across multiple threads, row-level locking, transactions, > foreign keys, etc. > > The differences are fairly well documented. It sounds like you're using PDO, > please read up on auto-commit mode. Don't reinvent the wheel, especially > when the wheel is already built better than you could hack out a replacement > for it :) > > -Patrick > > On 23/03/2008, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 19:17 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > > Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I know this is not quite the list for these things, but I tried the > > PHP > > > > list and got no reply whatsoever. In fact, I don't think anyone's home > > > > cause the entire list is silent... > > > > > > > > I'm trying to setup a system using web apps in PHP using MySQL as the > > > > backend database, only this time I need transaction services. > > According > > > > to the PHP manual if a transaction is served for MySQL it can come > > back > > > > as committed even though it may not. So what I'm trying to accomplish > > is > > > > develop some row level locking with the PHP script. > > > > > > > > I enquired about setting up a servlet (for want of a better term) with > > > > PHP, something that will serve the requests of the rest of the app. To > > > > be honest though, I'm not entirely sure how to approach this. > > > > > > Wow. That's one crazy attempt at a workaround. > > > > > > The correct solution is to use the correct tool for the job. Either > > > install PostgreSQL and use it instead, or use InnoDB tables. > > > > > > > > > Actually, I think I may have got some facts confused here- I thought > > that MyISAM was not supposed to be transaction supported, but according > > to most stuff I've read it supports table level transaction locking. > > > > And the PHP manual says it will only come back with a false commit IF > > the table DOESN'T support transactions at all. > > > > So what is the truth here? If MyISAM supports transaction table locking > > I may be ok here- and save myself a hell of a lot of trouble to boot. > > > > Thanks guys, again. > > I remember now exactly why I wanted MyISAM- you see the table locking is exactly what I need for the task. I just need to come up with a method to ensure what I send to the server does actually get written- or am I just being paranoid? The task I require needs to offer direct sequential access with no undoing of written data. And given the legality of the task based on these strict requirements, you can understand my paranoia. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
