Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.

2013-10-02 Thread dweimer

On 10/02/2013 6:35 am, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

01.10.2013 21:12, dweimer wrote:

On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote:

I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able 
to
determine that its looking for the library under 
/usr/local/lib/amd64,

the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able
to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the 
amd64

sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.

This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from
my environment, that's causing this.  Or is the port install not 
doing

something that it should be doing?

System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source 
and

ports all built with clang where possible.


Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all 
I

get is:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so:
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol
"jpeg_resync_to_restart"


Try `-headless`. You wont see the shiny logo though...


Thank you, this fixed that part, silly me, I was searching the help for 
things like -nosplash, and disable splash screen.


Didn't realize that this was the same thing:
  -headless Disables download window, other UIs.


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Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.

2013-10-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

01.10.2013 21:12, dweimer wrote:

On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote:

I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to
determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64,
the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able
to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64
sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.

This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from
my environment, that's causing this.  Or is the port install not doing
something that it should be doing?

System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and
ports all built with clang where possible.


Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all I
get is:

java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so:
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol
"jpeg_resync_to_restart"


Try `-headless`. You wont see the shiny logo though...

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Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.

2013-10-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

01.10.2013 19:09, dweimer wrote:

I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to
determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64,
the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to
work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64
sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.

This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my
environment, that's causing this.  Or is the port install not doing
something that it should be doing?


Never faced this, itweb-javaws works for me without library shuffling 
but with one tiny fix to startup script: `exec "${COMMAND[@]}"`.


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Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.

2013-10-01 Thread dweimer

On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote:

I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to
determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64,
the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able
to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64
sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.

This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from
my environment, that's causing this.  Or is the port install not doing
something that it should be doing?

System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and
ports all built with clang where possible.


Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all I 
get is:


java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: 
/usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol 
"jpeg_resync_to_restart"


I somewhat worked around it by installing the linux_sun_jre 7.40, and 
pointing icedtea webstart at it, searching online shows this to be most 
likely be a bug in the port of openjdk.


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119654

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Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.

2013-10-01 Thread dweimer
I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being 
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to 
determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64, 
the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to 
work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point 
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64 
sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.


This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my 
environment, that's causing this.  Or is the port install not doing 
something that it should be doing?


System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and 
ports all built with clang where possible.


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Task bar missed when creating PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit VM in VMware Workstation Version 98.02 build-1031769

2013-05-20 Thread Chou, David J
Hi,

I  am trying to create a virtual machine of PC-BSD release 9.1 64 bit in VMware 
Workstation Version 98.02 build-1031769 based on PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso 
downloaded from ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/9.1/amd64/PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso 
in Windows 7 64 bits system. The screen resolution is 1280x1024,  if I chose 
"Yes"  in "Confirm Resolution" window to keep the autodetec, then after the 
whole creation process finished, and login in as a created user, the task 
doesn't appear in the bottom below the desktop.  If I powered off the VM, and 
changed the Display setting to "Specificy monitor settings" with "Maximum 
resolution" set to "1024 x 768" by "Virtual Machine Settings" in Workstation, 
and repower on the VM, then the task bar appears on the bottom below desktop.

What is the issue?  Did I miss anything during the VM creation?

Thanks.

David






, and setup network configuration and installed Firefox 20.0 by AppCafe, and 
configured the network setting in Preference->Advanced of Firefox, and I could  
access Internet.

Now I need to build my own customized kernel, but there is no src subdirectory 
in /usr, so here is my question:
1.Is there any way to install kernel source when I create the  
virtual machine from PCBSD9.1-x64-DVD.iso ?
2.Any BKM to get the kernel source after the Virtual Machine 
already created as my case now?

Thanks!

Regards,
David

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Re: Dummynet on 64 bit systems

2013-05-07 Thread Joshua Isom

http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/dummynet/#58be

I wanted to do http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dummynet first, but it'll still help 
for other issues that might come up when using it on windows.


On 5/7/2013 4:17 PM, Rama Varma wrote:

Hello,

I was interested in knowing if Dummynet is supported on Windows 7 x64.
I tried on 32 bit Windows 7 and works good.

If it should work on 64 bit Windoows 7, can you let me know the install 
procedure.
Or do you have a digitally signed ipfw.sys ?

Thanks

Rama
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Dummynet on 64 bit systems

2013-05-07 Thread Rama Varma
Hello,

I was interested in knowing if Dummynet is supported on Windows 7 x64.
I tried on 32 bit Windows 7 and works good.

If it should work on 64 bit Windoows 7, can you let me know the install 
procedure.
Or do you have a digitally signed ipfw.sys ?

Thanks

Rama
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Re: NcFTPd on 9.1 64-bit

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Pazarena

On 2013-02-07 5:55 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote:

Jim Pazarena wrote, On 2013-01-27 7:58 PM:

I have found that on the two machines which I installed 9.1 on, NcFTPd
fails system logins for non-root attempts with "Password wrong for user
 from 192.168.1.51"

These are logins which previously on 9.0 worked as expected, and now
fail on 9.1.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Thanks!


No one has answered on this question, and supp...@ncftp.com
is also silent.

I *do* see an error go by during boot, which states
"unable to open /etc/auth.conf"

FreeBSD 9.1 does not HAVE auth.conf (9.0 DOES)


The creator of NcFTPd (Mike Gleason) provided me a 9.1 version,
and it works as expected. Kudos to Mike.
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Re: NcFTPd on 9.1 64-bit

2013-02-07 Thread Fbsd8

Jim Pazarena wrote:

Jim Pazarena wrote, On 2013-01-27 7:58 PM:

I have found that on the two machines which I installed 9.1 on, NcFTPd
fails system logins for non-root attempts with "Password wrong for user
 from 192.168.1.51"

These are logins which previously on 9.0 worked as expected, and now
fail on 9.1.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Thanks!


No one has answered on this question, and supp...@ncftp.com
is also silent.

I *do* see an error go by during boot, which states
"unable to open /etc/auth.conf"

FreeBSD 9.1 does not HAVE auth.conf (9.0 DOES)

failing getting NcFTPd working, what is the next ftpd recommended ?




Did you try moving the 9.0 /etc/auth.conf to your 9.1 system?
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Re: NcFTPd on 9.1 64-bit

2013-02-07 Thread Jim Pazarena

Jim Pazarena wrote, On 2013-01-27 7:58 PM:

I have found that on the two machines which I installed 9.1 on, NcFTPd
fails system logins for non-root attempts with "Password wrong for user
 from 192.168.1.51"

These are logins which previously on 9.0 worked as expected, and now
fail on 9.1.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Thanks!


No one has answered on this question, and supp...@ncftp.com
is also silent.

I *do* see an error go by during boot, which states
"unable to open /etc/auth.conf"

FreeBSD 9.1 does not HAVE auth.conf (9.0 DOES)

failing getting NcFTPd working, what is the next ftpd recommended ?
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NcFTPd on 9.1 64-bit

2013-01-27 Thread Jim Pazarena

I have found that on the two machines which I installed 9.1 on, NcFTPd
fails system logins for non-root attempts with "Password wrong for user 
 from 192.168.1.51"


These are logins which previously on 9.0 worked as expected, and now 
fail on 9.1.


Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions? Thanks!
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valgrind on pure amd64 (64 bit system _only_)

2012-11-21 Thread Jakub Lach
What's state of valgrind port on pure amd64 system?

Here, it core dumps upon linking both with clang and gcc47, 
with complaint that looks suspicious (expected i386 not X86_64
or something to that effect).



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mhonarc 64-bit Package for mhonarc6.18 is stale.

2012-09-10 Thread Martin McCormick
mhonarc is a mime message archiver that is used with nmh
and possibly other applications. I used pkg_add -r mhonarc to
install it on a new system I was building and then discovered
that attempts to reply to messages produced no quoted output and
a spew of perl warnings about "defined" being deprecated. The
messages tell you what line and in what application the
offending directives live and one must then edit out the word
defined from those lines.

The current port of mhonarc, however, is fine so I first
did make deinstall in the /usr/ports/www/mhonarc directory and
then did make install from the port and things are now perking
along nicely.

If there is a better place to send this message, I will
certainly be glad to send it. All somebody needs to do is create
the mhonarc.tbz package from the most current port for both 32
and 64-bit systems. Who knows; I may be the only one in the
world who is still using nmh, but it is useful when you want
scripts to send mail, etc.

Martin McCormick
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Re: Is there anything like strace for 64-bit Systems?

2012-09-08 Thread Martin McCormick
Bruce Cran writes I should try truss. I would just quote the
text, but I need to first find out what is broken in the reply
sequence and truss may point out what is failing.

Martin McCormick
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Is there anything like strace for 64-bit Systems?

2012-09-08 Thread Martin McCormick
Is there anything like strace for AMD64 FreeBSD?

Thank you.
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Re: Is there anything like strace for 64-bit Systems?

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Cran

On 08/09/2012 18:14, Martin McCormick wrote:

Is there anything like strace for AMD64 FreeBSD?


See truss(1) - "trace system calls".

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Is there anything like strace for 64-bit Systems?

2012-09-08 Thread Martin McCormick
Is there anything like strace for AMD64 FreeBSD?

Thank you.
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar

4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a
year.


to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one year 
break?

just as "enterprise" disks, which are usually the same :)

PS. Off Topic
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Andreev
Hi,
here is the step-by-step how to migrate between architectures:
http://dadv.livejournal.com/143243.html
It's in russian, but you could use google translate.
Of course all such docs provided without any warranties.

2012/6/28 Erich Dollansky 

> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 28 June 2012 00:33:03 Robert Huff wrote:
> >
> > Odhiambo Washington writes:
> >
> > >  > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit
> > >  > installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this
> > >  > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if
> > >  > I can do it from source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded
> > >  > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade?
> > >
> > >  Please just don't do it.
> > >
> > >  Backup, Install new, restore configs and data!
> >
> >   I'd go even further:
> >
> >   1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only".
> >   2) install 64-bit system on new disk.  (use the opportunity to
> >   adjust partition size/layout)
> >   3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed.
> >   4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a
> >   year.
>
> to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one
> year break?
>
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Thursday 28 June 2012 00:33:03 Robert Huff wrote:
> 
> Odhiambo Washington writes:
> 
> >  > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit
> >  > installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this 
> >  > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if
> >  > I can do it from source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded
> >  > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade?
> >
> >  Please just don't do it.
> >  
> >  Backup, Install new, restore configs and data!
> 
>   I'd go even further: 
> 
>   1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only".
>   2) install 64-bit system on new disk.  (use the opportunity to
>   adjust partition size/layout)
>   3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed.
>   4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a
>   year. 

to learn then that cosnumer grade disk do not start anymore after a one year 
break?

Erich
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

adjust partition size/layout)
3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed.
4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a
year.


ten years!
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar




Please just don't do it.

Backup, Install new, restore configs and data!



i see no problems doing this!
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit 
installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this machine to


TARGET=amd64

64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from source. 
Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on a remote 
install/upgrade?


Tim Kellers
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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Derek Ragona

At 08:37 AM 6/27/2012, Tim Kellers wrote:
I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the 
next few days.  The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 64 
bit FreeBSD.  The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is what 
it is running now.


Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit 
installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this machine 
to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from 
source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on 
a remote install/upgrade?


Tim Kellers




The 2950's are a bit dated, so unless you have in excess of 4GB RAM, you 
don't need to move to 64-bit.  If you do choose to go 64-bit, I agree with 
the other posts, simply do a fresh install.  In doing a fresh install, save 
off the package list you have on the i386 build and reinstall those 
packages on the new 64-bit system.


Doing a fresh install will also save you time, since you can go right to 9, 
rather than doing two upgrades.


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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Robert Huff

Odhiambo Washington writes:

>  > Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit
>  > installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this 
>  > machine to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if
>  > I can do it from source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded
>  > (or failed spectacularly) on a remote install/upgrade?
>
>  Please just don't do it.
>  
>  Backup, Install new, restore configs and data!

I'd go even further: 

1) replace the old disk, and jumper it to "read-only".
2) install 64-bit system on new disk.  (use the opportunity to
adjust partition size/layout)
3) mount the old disk externally, and copy as needed.
4) when done, store the old disk in a safe, known spot for a
year. 


Robert Huff





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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Tim Kellers wrote:

> I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the
> next few days.  The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 64
> bit FreeBSD.  The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is what it
> is running now.
>
> Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit
> installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this machine to
> 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from
> source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) on
> a remote install/upgrade?
>
>
Please just don't do it.

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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 6/27/2012 9:37 AM, Tim Kellers wrote:
> Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit
> installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this machine
> to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from
> source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly)
> on a remote install/upgrade?

I have seen posts of people who have done it, but when we contemplated
it a while back it was more trouble than it was worth. It was easier and
safer to build a new image on a separate disk, install all the apps from
the ports, and then migrate the customer data over.  Even if the box is
remote, it might be easier to ship the drive there and have someone
change it out for you.

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Re: 32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Jakub Lach
It has been done, it's just rally not recommended.

Sorry, don't know what was exact procedure/
if it works currently.

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32 bit to 64 bit

2012-06-27 Thread Tim Kellers
I'm upgrading a 7.3 -STABLE installation to 8.x, then 9- Stable over the 
next few days.  The hardware is a Dell 2950 that is capable of running 
64 bit FreeBSD.  The original installation was i386 32 bit and that is 
what it is running now.


Will the buildworld ---> buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO64 allow a 32 bit 
installation to build a 64 bit kernel?  I'd like to upgrade this machine 
to 64 bit AMD and I'd prefer not to do it from a DVD if I can do it from 
source.   Has anyone tried this and succeeded (or failed spectacularly) 
on a remote install/upgrade?


Tim Kellers
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Re: FreeBSD 64 Bit Applications

2011-07-01 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 06/30/11 10:06, John Dakos wrote:


My questions is .is FreeBSD 64 Bit  stable and Rock   such as 32 bit ?


Yes, go for it.




These standard applications are working well on 64 bit  or not ?

Apache , Bind, Webmin , Mysql ,Postfix ,Dovecot, Spamassasin, PHP, Squid, PF


I can personally confirm on Apache, Bind, MySQL, SpamAssassin, PHP and 
Squid.



 bye
av.
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Re: FreeBSD 64 Bit Applications

2011-06-30 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qui, 2011-06-30 às 11:06 +0300, John Dakos escreveu:
For me I am very satisfied with the 8.2R P2 64bit.

I run about 50-60 servers 24/7 in mission critic applications
using ZFS, with a mix of ISP, databases (postgresql, firebird...), 
large asterisk  IP centrals, vpn servers (400 vpns...), and terminal
servers for thin clients using bootp in 32 bits... 
from large dell servers (12 logical cpus) to small routers (semprom 1
core).. 
all the same kernel.  I build a kernel in the 12 cpu server, and
downloaded
the /boot/kernel directory in the other cpus... It works like a charm...

Sergio


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Re: FreeBSD 64 Bit Applications

2011-06-30 Thread krad
On 30 June 2011 09:06, John Dakos  wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello all.
>
>
>
> I have a question about FreeBSD 64Bit Applications
>
>
>
> I want to install FreeBSD 64 Bit to have most memory10 GB ram or up ,
> and to make more stable.
>
>
>
> My questions is .is FreeBSD 64 Bit  stable and Rock   such as 32 bit ?
>
>
>
> These standard applications are working well on 64 bit  or not ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Apache , Bind, Webmin , Mysql ,Postfix ,Dovecot, Spamassasin, PHP, Squid,
> PF
>
>
>
> Any idea ?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
> stable
>
>
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all stable from what i have seen. I have been running all of them in an high
load isp environment for years with no issues relating to 64 bit
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FreeBSD 64 Bit Applications

2011-06-30 Thread John Dakos
 

 

 

Hello all.

 

I have a question about FreeBSD 64Bit Applications

 

I want to install FreeBSD 64 Bit to have most memory10 GB ram or up ,
and to make more stable.

 

My questions is .is FreeBSD 64 Bit  stable and Rock   such as 32 bit ?

 

These standard applications are working well on 64 bit  or not ?

 

 

Apache , Bind, Webmin , Mysql ,Postfix ,Dovecot, Spamassasin, PHP, Squid, PF

 

Any idea ?

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Rob wrote:
> When 8.3 comes out, what do I need to do to update the src tree?  This may be 
> documented in the UPDATING docs, but having never messed with the source tree 
> I haven't had cause to look.  If so just tell me to go read the respective 
> doc. :)

Read the fine Handbook:

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Rob

On 6/14/11 4:52 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the
freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?



Well, IF you installed the source tree from the SAME cd  which you installed
the FreeBSD you have now, there won't be any problems. You said you want to
keep the stock kernel you installed so I assume that you haven't updated
anything from the internet. You MUST install the source tree from the same
DVD/CD from where you installed your running kernel!

The diference is that the packages are meant to run on their respective
version. I believe that packages that don't rely on a specific thing of one
version should run without problems on both. But this is not normal or even
needed at all, specially because it is so easy to bring everything uptodate to
the same version.


I installed from an 8.2 boot only CD (ie network install) and have since 
patched up to 8.2-p2.  I assume I can just run sysinstall from my system 
and pull the src tree from the ftp server?


When 8.3 comes out, what do I need to do to update the src tree?  This 
may be documented in the UPDATING docs, but having never messed with the 
source tree I haven't had cause to look.  If so just tell me to go read 
the respective doc. :)


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Rob

On 6/14/11 8:06 AM, Ondrej Majerech wrote:

On 06/09/2011 15:49, Rob wrote:

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries



included.


I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
packages/src I needed to install. I'd like to avoid diverging from the
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity. What exactly does that do?
Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?


Needless to say, that option seems to be enabled in GENERIC:

[starlight] ~ > grep COMPAT_FREEBSD32 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries

Also I don't remember having to issue make build32 install32 or anything
of that sort.

You do need to have the FreeBSD source tree installed on your system,
though. Did you try just fetching the source tree without building from
it and then trying to build VirtualBox again?

~ Ondra


Is there a pkg_add command for installing the source tree, or should I 
just use sysinstall?


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 13 June 2011 21:14:05 Rob wrote:
> On 6/9/11 4:55 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:
> >> On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
> >>> On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
> >>>> I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
> >>>> weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
> >>>> of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
> >>>> ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
> >>>> see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
> >>>> packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but
> >>>> I got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed
> >>>> in order to build virtualbox.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So, my question is 2-fold:
> >>>> 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
> >>>> still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing
> >>>> the packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
> >>>> libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
> >>>> threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
> >>>> 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what
> >>>> do I need to install?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Rob
> >>> 
> >>> You need to rebuild your kernel with
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> options   COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> included.
> >>> 
> >>> And as per the port's error message:
> >>> 
> >>> cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart
> >> 
> >> I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
> >> anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
> >> packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
> >> stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
> >> 
> >>Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
> >> 
> >> libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?
> >> 
> >> Rob
> > 
> > To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source
> > tree from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.
> > 
> > You will have to run sysinstal and go to
> > 
> > Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD
> > 
> > then
> > 
> > Distributions   Install additional distribution sets
> > 
> > then mark
> > 
> > [ ]  src   Sources for everything
> > 
> > Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the
> > sources on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.
> > 
> > If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will
> > be in sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.
> 
> What is that command doing though?  It's building what from src?  What
> is the output of build32?  I assume it's not a kernel.
> 

No. Its JUST the 32 bit libraries.

make build32 builds the 32bit libraries. It simply outputs the compilation 
process.

make install32 installs the 32bit libraries. Same thing but for the install 
process.



> Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the
> freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?
> 

Well, IF you installed the source tree from the SAME cd  which you installed 
the FreeBSD you have now, there won't be any problems. You said you want to 
keep the stock kernel you installed so I assume that you haven't updated 
anything from the internet. You MUST install the source tree from the same 
DVD/CD from where you installed your running kernel!

The diference is that the packages are meant to run on their respective 
version. I believe that packages that don't rely on a specific thing of one 
version should run without problems on both. But this is not normal or even 
needed at all, specially because it is so easy to bring everything uptodate to 
the same version.


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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-14 Thread Ondrej Majerech

On 06/09/2011 15:49, Rob wrote:

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries



included.


I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
packages/src I needed to install. I'd like to avoid diverging from the
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity. What exactly does that do?
Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?


Needless to say, that option seems to be enabled in GENERIC:

[starlight] ~ > grep COMPAT_FREEBSD32 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries

Also I don't remember having to issue make build32 install32 or anything 
of that sort.


You do need to have the FreeBSD source tree installed on your system, 
though. Did you try just fetching the source tree without building from 
it and then trying to build VirtualBox again?


~ Ondra
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-13 Thread Rob

On 6/9/11 4:55 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:

I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.

I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
order to build virtualbox.

So, my question is 2-fold:
1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?

2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
I need to install?

Rob


You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries



included.

And as per the port's error message:

cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart


I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
   Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?

Rob


To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source tree
from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.

You will have to run sysinstal and go to

Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD

then

Distributions   Install additional distribution sets

then mark

[ ]  src   Sources for everything

Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the sources
on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.

If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will be in
sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.


What is that command doing though?  It's building what from src?  What 
is the output of build32?  I assume it's not a kernel.


Also, do you know the difference between pre-built packages on the 
freebsd ftp server in packages-8.2-release vs packages-8-stable?


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-09 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 09 June 2011 10:49:37 Rob wrote:
> On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
> >> I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
> >> weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
> >> of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
> >> ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
> >> see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
> >> packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
> >> 
> >> I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
> >> got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
> >> order to build virtualbox.
> >> 
> >> So, my question is 2-fold:
> >> 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
> >> still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
> >> packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
> >> 
> >> 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
> >> libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
> >> threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
> >> 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
> >> I need to install?
> >> 
> >> Rob
> > 
> > You need to rebuild your kernel with
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > included.
> > 
> > And as per the port's error message:
> > 
> > cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart
> 
> I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have
> anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what
> packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the
> stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do?
>   Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these
> libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?
> 
> Rob

To remain with the same kernel you installed, you must install the source tree 
from the same CD/DVD you used for installation.

You will have to run sysinstal and go to 

Configure  Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD

then

Distributions   Install additional distribution sets

then mark

[ ]  src   Sources for everything

Choose the CDROM as installation media. After that you'll have all the sources 
on your HD and can proceed to the compilation of the 32 libs.

If the sources are from the same CD you installed the system, they will be in 
sync with your kernel. No upgrade issues.
-- 
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-09 Thread Rob

On 6/6/11 8:39 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:

I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.

I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
order to build virtualbox.

So, my question is 2-fold:
1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?

2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
I need to install?

Rob




You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries



included.

And as per the port's error message:

cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart



I noticed that when I tried to build the ports, but I don't have 
anything in /usr/src and no information was given as to what 
packages/src I needed to install.  I'd like to avoid diverging from the 
stock release kernel for upgrade simplicity.  What exactly does that do? 
 Will it introduce upgrade complexity (ie will I have to upgrade these 
libs before I upgrade the kernel or some such)?


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 22:31:30 Rob wrote:
> On 6/6/11 8:13 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
> >> I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
> >> weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
> >> of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
> >> ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
> >> see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
> >> packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
> >> 
> >> I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
> >> got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
> >> order to build virtualbox.
> >> 
> >> So, my question is 2-fold:
> >> 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
> >> still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
> >> packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
> >> 
> >> 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
> >> libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
> >> threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
> >> 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
> >> I need to install?
> >> 
> >> Rob
> > 
> > You need to rebuild your kernel with
> > 
> > options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries
> > 
> > included.
> 
> I'm running the stock 8.2 kernel.  Is that option compiled into the
> kernel?  Where do I find the options that are enabled in the stock kernel?

I believe the stock kernel follows the GENERIC conf file which DOES include 
the COMPAT_FREEBSD32 option but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe someone on the list 
could confirm that.
 
> Also, does COMPAT_FREEBSD32 mean I don't need the 32-bit libs for
> compilation, or that the kernel will run binaries compiled for 32-bit
> systems?  If the later, then I'll still need to install the 32-bit
> version of the libraries in order to build, right?
> 
> Rob

You do need to compile the libraries as per my follow up post.

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit (cont)

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
> I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
> weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
> of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
> ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
> see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
> packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
> 
> I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
> got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
> order to build virtualbox.
> 
> So, my question is 2-fold:
> 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
> still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
> packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
> 
> 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
> libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
> threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
> 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
> I need to install?
> 
> Rob



You need to rebuild your kernel with



options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries



included.

And as per the port's error message:

cd /usr/src; make build32 install32; /etc/rc.d/ldconfig restart

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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Rob

On 6/6/11 8:13 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:

On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:

I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.

I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
order to build virtualbox.

So, my question is 2-fold:
1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?

2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
I need to install?

Rob


You need to rebuild your kernel with

options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries

included.



I'm running the stock 8.2 kernel.  Is that option compiled into the 
kernel?  Where do I find the options that are enabled in the stock kernel?


Also, does COMPAT_FREEBSD32 mean I don't need the 32-bit libs for 
compilation, or that the kernel will run binaries compiled for 32-bit 
systems?  If the later, then I'll still need to install the 32-bit 
version of the libraries in order to build, right?


Rob
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Re: Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:56:53 Rob wrote:
> I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this
> weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version
> of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in
> ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I
> see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but
> packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.
> 
> I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I
> got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in
> order to build virtualbox.
> 
> So, my question is 2-fold:
> 1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is
> still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the
> packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?
> 
> 2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit
> libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail
> threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the
> 3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do
> I need to install?
> 
> Rob

You need to rebuild your kernel with

options COMPAT_FREEBSD32# Compatible with i386 binaries

included.

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Virtualbox on 8.2 64-bit

2011-06-06 Thread Rob
I was attempting to install virtualbox on my 8.2-p2 64-bit system this 
weekend, and hit a rather curious situation.  The pre-packaged version 
of virtualbox retrievable by pkg_add is 3.2.12 (which looks in 
ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release).  Poking around on the ftp server, I 
see that packages-8.1-release also has a 3.x version, but 
packages-8-stable has the latest 4.0.8.


I went to look in ports, which contains 4.0.8, and build it myself but I 
got an error saying I need to have the 32-bit libraries installed in 
order to build virtualbox.


So, my question is 2-fold:
1) What is the reason the 64-bit pre-packaged version of virtualbox is 
still at the 3.x version?  Would there be a problem with installing the 
packages (virtualbox and kernel module) from packages-8-stable?


2) How do I build virtualbox 4.0.8 on a 64-bit system w/o the 32-bit 
libs.  Is that possible?  Searching around has produced old e-mail 
threads indicating this was a problem as of 2 or so years ago with the 
3.x release.  If it's not possible to build w/o the 32-bit libs, what do 
I need to install?


Rob
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2011-02-14 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Gautham Ganapathy
> Would these changes be available in 8.2-release?

They should be already in 8.2 RC3 (dunno about loader bug).

Anyway you always can track FreeBSD STABLE and stable branch of
https://github.com/richardpl/NDISulator .
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2011-02-13 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On July 24, 2010 08:04AM, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Gautham Ganapathy  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom
>> BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to
>> download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the kernel
>> module (I am using the 64-bit WinXP driver and freebsd amd64), I get errors
>> when I try to load it. It says that the following symbols are missing
>>
>> ZwQueryInformationFile
>> ZwCreateFile
>> ZwReadFile
>> IoUnregisterPlugPlayNotification
>> ExFreePoolWithTag
>>
>> According to MSDN, these were introduced in Windows 2000.
>>
>> Is there any way of getting this driver running ?
>
> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
> yet...
> Feel free to send patches.
>

Hi

Would these changes be available in 8.2-release?

Regards
Gautham

PS - Sorry, I lost the original copy of the thread. Had to copy this
from an archive.
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Devin Teske
On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

>> "Devin" == Devin Teske  writes:
> 
> Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos
> 
> This is pretty useless. :)

I'd say it's _absolutely_ useless ^_^

Yes, indeed, the `sudo' should be omitted.
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Devin" == Devin Teske  writes:

Devin> sudo cd /usr/repos

This is pretty useless. :)

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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Devin Teske
I wrote a utility (attached) to make the process really fast and easy:



jail_build(8): Build FreeBSD jails from binary distributions


Here's a simple howto:

Step 1: Create a landing zone for your binary distribution (jail_build(8) looks 
in `/usr/repos' for binary distributions)...

sudo mkdir -p /usr/repos
sudo cd /usr/repos

Step 2: Download one or more binary FreeBSD distributions (any version, any 
platform)...

wget -r ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.1-RELEASE

Step 3: Download jail_build(8)...

cd
wget http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/jail_build.txt
mv jail_build.txt jail_build
chmod +x jail_build

Step 4: Build your jail(s)...

./jail_build
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> 
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.
> 
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Redd Vinylene  wrote:
> How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then?
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.
>
> Thanks!
>

Use this as a start:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails.html
Then you have to specify target arch = i386 or something in the make
buildworld etc. steps.  I don't remember the exact syntax for the make
flags off hand.
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
How do I create a 32-bit jail on a 64-bit machine then?

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3744 did not tell me much.

Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread David DEMELIER
2010/12/6 Redd Vinylene :
> Greetings!
>
> Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
> Thanks!
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Hello,

Since this question is asked a lot of time I think we should update
the handbook to say `yes' it's possible ! :-)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2010-January/001139.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-j...@freebsd.org/msg01201.html

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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
Thanks a lot guys - I really appreciate it.

Redd
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
FreeBSD without even using a jail.
Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
some conf file flag somewhere.

There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
I usually rebuild world to make it happen.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Redd Vinylene  wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Mike Bregg
Yes, I believe this has been possible since 7.2.

Mike


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> some
> software that only works on 32-bit.
>
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Nerius Landys
>> I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
>> FreeBSD without even using a jail.
>> Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
>> example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
>> and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
>> some conf file flag somewhere.
>>
>> There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
>> I usually rebuild world to make it happen.
>>
>
> Hey man!
>
> Matter of fact - yeah - I do have /usr/lib32. So that's all I need or do I
> need to activate something in rc.conf or whatever?
>
> Much obliged!

/usr/lib32 should be all you need [I think].
However you won't be able to correctly compile 32 bit software on your
64 bit system.  For
compiling, you _should_ use a jail, or compile on a 32 bit system.
They're addressing this cross-compiling issue in the latest FreeBSD
sources I think.
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Re: Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Nerius Landys  wrote:

> I've had success running [at least some] 32 bit software on 64 bit
> FreeBSD without even using a jail.
> Do you have /usr/lib32 on your system?  This would get installed for
> example if you rebuild world/kernel following this:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
> and if you don't inhibit the installation of /usr/lib32 by setting
> some conf file flag somewhere.
>
> There are probably other ways to "get" /usr/lib32 on your system, but
> I usually rebuild world to make it happen.
>

Hey man!

Matter of fact - yeah - I do have /usr/lib32. So that's all I need or do I
need to activate something in rc.conf or whatever?

Much obliged!
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Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server?

2010-12-06 Thread Redd Vinylene
Greetings!

Can I run a 32-bit jail (or software) on a 64-bit server? I need to use some
software that only works on 32-bit.

Thanks!
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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Bruce Cran
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:00:36 -0500
Bill Moran  wrote:

> Of course, things are always changing, and at this point in time, my
> advice would be "only go 32 bit if you _know_ there's something that
> won't work in 64 bit."

The only other time I'd recommend installing a 32-bit version is if
you're stuck with a machine with a very limited amount of memory. For
example I'm having to run www/mail/db in only 256MB, so I chose not to
install the 64-bit version which would use more memory.

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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Tobias
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
>
> It was only a few years ago that my advice was "Don't got 64 bit unless
> you know you need it."
>
> Of course, things are always changing, and at this point in time, my
> advice would be "only go 32 bit if you _know_ there's something that
> won't work in 64 bit."
>

Could not agree more with your statements above.


> I can speak personally that we have a multitude of servers running
> PHP and Apache 2.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD with no trouble.  I don't use
> MySQL, but I have a hard time believing that it's not 64 bit clean.


Right behind me is my 64-bit FreeBSD 8.1 server that hosts a number of
websites. Apache2, php, perl, mysql, memcache, etc. all run just fine
without any obvious issues.

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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jerry :

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:52:33 +0100
> Eva Kukulies  articulated:
> 
> > I'm thinking of renting a hosting server and I have an offer of
> > getting a FreeBSD 8.1 server. I want to run MySQL 5.x, PHP5,
> > apache2.2 on it and I'm asking myself
> > whether it would matter if I choose 32 of 64 bit ?
> 
> I have all three running on an 8.1/64 amd system successfully.

It was only a few years ago that my advice was "Don't got 64 bit unless
you know you need it."

Of course, things are always changing, and at this point in time, my
advice would be "only go 32 bit if you _know_ there's something that
won't work in 64 bit."

I can speak personally that we have a multitude of servers running
PHP and Apache 2.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD with no trouble.  I don't use
MySQL, but I have a hard time believing that it's not 64 bit clean.

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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:52:33 +0100
Eva Kukulies  articulated:

> I'm thinking of renting a hosting server and I have an offer of
> getting a FreeBSD 8.1 server. I want to run MySQL 5.x, PHP5,
> apache2.2 on it and I'm asking myself
> whether it would matter if I choose 32 of 64 bit ?

I have all three running on an 8.1/64 amd system successfully.

BTW, you "sig-delimiter" is broken. You are missing a  after the
two leading dashes.

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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread krad
On 23 November 2010 09:52, Eva Kukulies  wrote:

> I'm thinking of renting a hosting server and I have an offer of getting a
> FreeBSD 8.1 server. I want to run MySQL 5.x, PHP5, apache2.2 on it and I'm
> asking myself
> whether it would matter if I choose 32 of 64 bit ?
>
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go for 64 bit, as there are few reasons not to, and lots for
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Re: 32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Indexer
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On 23/11/2010, at 20:22, Eva Kukulies wrote:

> I'm thinking of renting a hosting server and I have an offer of getting a
> FreeBSD 8.1 server. I want to run MySQL 5.x, PHP5, apache2.2 on it and I'm 
> asking myself
> whether it would matter if I choose 32 of 64 bit ?

depends on ram amount, and if you plan to use ZFS. probably not really an issue 
though. Take 64 if you can however.

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William Brown

pgp.mit.edu



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32 or 64 bit as server ?

2010-11-23 Thread Eva Kukulies

I'm thinking of renting a hosting server and I have an offer of getting a
FreeBSD 8.1 server. I want to run MySQL 5.x, PHP5, apache2.2 on it and 
I'm asking myself

whether it would matter if I choose 32 of 64 bit ?

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Re: 64-bit PGP isn't Decrypting.

2010-10-04 Thread Martin McCormick
Dan Nelson writes:
> Does gnupg (ports/security/gnupg) work?  I think you'll have a hard time
> trying to get people to fix bugs in pgp; the source tree that the pgp port
> uses is 14 years old.

Wow! I thought that was just the first copywrite date.

gnugp installs gpg-2 which is almost the right thing but the
files encrypted from pgp report as using the "idea" method.
gpg-idea is a port that currently appears to try to decode the
test file but immediately bombs out with a couple of cryptic
errors about packets so not quite home yet.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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Re: 64-bit PGP isn't Decrypting.

2010-10-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 04), Martin McCormick said:
> There are two new FreeBSD8.1 systems. Both got pgp added to them by use of
> pkg_add -r pgp.  Both adds installed
> 
> Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6.3ia - Public-key encryption for the masses.
> (c) 1990-96 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1996-03-04
> International version - not for use in the USA. Does not use RSAREF.
> 
> A test file that had been encrypted earlier was used on both systems.  It
> works fine on the 32-bit system and always fails on the 64-bit system. 
> Trust me.  As many times as I tried it, I couldn't possibly be mistyping
> the pass phrase every time on the 64-bit system and then getting it right
> on the 32-bit system.

Does gnupg (ports/security/gnupg) work?  I think you'll have a hard time
trying to get people to fix bugs in pgp; the source tree that the pgp port
uses is 14 years old.

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64-bit PGP isn't Decrypting.

2010-10-04 Thread Martin McCormick
There are two new FreeBSD8.1 systems. Both got pgp added
to them by use of pkg_add -r pgp. Both adds installed

Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6.3ia - Public-key encryption for the masses.
(c) 1990-96 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1996-03-04
International version - not for use in the USA. Does not use RSAREF.

A test file that had been encrypted earlier was used on both
systems. It works fine on the 32-bit system and always fails on
the 64-bit system. Trust me. As many times as I tried it, I
couldn't possibly be mistyping the pass phrase every time on the
64-bit system and then getting it right on the 32-bit system.

    On the 64-bit system, one can not seem to encrypt a file
and then decrypt it with the pass phrase.

If you take the encrypted file from the 64-bit system
and try to decrypt on the 32-bit system, that fails so something
appears wrong with the numerical encryption process that is
peculiar to being 64 bits. I am thinking some of the cipher
routines may be relying on the width of certain expressions that
change if running in 64-bit mode.

So far, files encrypted on the 64-bit system are
ultrasecure in that they can'ts seem to be read anywhere.:-)

Has anybody else had the same problem on a 64-bit
version of pgp?

I am glad I discovered this before anything crytical
happened.

Martin McCormick
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-09-06 Thread doug

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Gautham Ganapathy wrote:


On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jerry  wrote:


On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +
Paul B Mahol  articulated:



On 7/24/10, Jerry  wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +
Paul B Mahol  articulated:


Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
yet...
Feel free to send patches.


I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not
support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure
and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in
FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends
something to laugh about.


And bwn(4) doesn't work at all?



bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver


You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case,
it is limited to 'broadcom' chips.

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Nope, bwn did not work. The man page mentioned a port that also had to be
installed. It had two modules, which I put in loader.conf one at a time
along with if_bwn.ko, but still no luck.

The card I have has a Broadcom 4353 chipset.  I think it is b/g/n.

I have a laptop with the same card. In a December 23, 2009 (in current I think) 
the driver maintainer said:


I see that your device has LP-PHY instead of A/B/G/N PHYs so currently
it's not supported by bwn(4).

AFAIK linux has a weak but working implementation so we could refer to
other Open Sources.

At least on 8.1 bwn does not recognize the device. I can not find XP drivers. 
Broadcom's site does not (as far as I could find) mention the card. It does not 
sound like the XP driver work much better. Using the win7 drivers produces a 
hard loop upon doing an ifconfig. There are no PRs on either ndis or bwn so I 
assume this will be the state of things for a while at least.


If anyone got the XP drivers to work with this card, please share the solution 
and how to get the drivers.

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Re: Problem installing Bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server

2010-08-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:35:12 +0200
Albin Vega  articulated:

> Hello
> 
> Trying to install bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server. After
> installation the bacula client should start automatically but it
> dont. I then tried to start the bacula windows service manually but
> are getting the following (and pointless) error message: Error 1067.
> The prosess terminated unexpektedly.
> 
> Ok, so now i open a CMD window and try to start the service
> by starting bacula-fd.exe, but with no luck. Then I add the -t option
> and get the error message:
> 
> 27-Aug 13:14 bacula-fd: ERROR TERMINATION at
> /home/kern/bacula/k/bacula/src/lib/ parse_conf.c:898
> Config error: Cannot open config file
> "C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf": No such file or directory
> 
> I try to look in the ProgramDate catalogue to see if i can find the
> bacula-fd.conf file and have a look in it. But there is no ProgramData
> catalogue. The bacula-fd.conf file is in in C:/Program files/bacula
> catalogue. Looks like this:
> 
> #
> # Default  Bacula File Daemon Configuration file
> #
> #  For Bacula release 5.0.3 (08/05/10) -- Windows MinGW64
> #
> # There is not much to change here except perhaps the
> # File daemon Name
> #
> #
> # "Global" File daemon configuration specifications
> #
> FileDaemon {# this is me
>   Name = clientservername-fd
>   FDport = 9102# where we listen for the director
>   WorkingDirectory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working"
>   Pid Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working"
> # Plugin Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins"
>   Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10
> }
> #
> # List Directors who are permitted to contact this File daemon
> #
> Director {
>   Name = backup.mydomainname.com-fd
>   Password = "mypassword"
> }
> #
> # Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the
> #   status of the file daemon
> #
> Director {
>   Name = @monitor_name@
>   Password = "@monitor_password@"
>   Monitor = yes
> }
> # Send all messages except skipped files back to Director
> Messages {
>   Name = Standard
>   director = backup.mydomainname.com-fd = all, !skipped, !restored
> }
> The password is the same on the client and the servert, I checked
> that. Anyhow, it should be possible to start the deamon/service even
> if the client have no contact with the servere, right?
> 
> Anybody have a fix on this?

Have you tried starting from:

  

Locate the service and try starting it there. The error message would
be a lot more revealing. You could click the  and try to
locate the problem in one of the logs.

I did notice a post on an MS Forum, I forgot which one, that the latest
version of Bacula does not work on Windows. You apparent have to use a
deprecated version.

In any case, this might be better suited to an MS Forum discussion.

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Problem installing Bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server

2010-08-27 Thread Albin Vega
Hello

Trying to install bacula client on win 2008 64 bit server. After
installation the bacula client should start automatically but it dont. I
then tried to start the bacula windows service manually but are getting the
following (and pointless) error message: Error 1067. The prosess terminated
unexpektedly.

Ok, so now i open a CMD window and try to start the service
by starting bacula-fd.exe, but with no luck. Then I add the -t option and
get the error message:

27-Aug 13:14 bacula-fd: ERROR TERMINATION at
/home/kern/bacula/k/bacula/src/lib/ parse_conf.c:898
Config error: Cannot open config file
"C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf": No such file or directory

I try to look in the ProgramDate catalogue to see if i can find the
bacula-fd.conf file and have a look in it. But there is no ProgramData
catalogue. The bacula-fd.conf file is in in C:/Program files/bacula
catalogue. Looks like this:

#
# Default  Bacula File Daemon Configuration file
#
#  For Bacula release 5.0.3 (08/05/10) -- Windows MinGW64
#
# There is not much to change here except perhaps the
# File daemon Name
#
#
# "Global" File daemon configuration specifications
#
FileDaemon {# this is me
  Name = clientservername-fd
  FDport = 9102# where we listen for the director
  WorkingDirectory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working"
  Pid Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\working"
# Plugin Directory = "C:\\Program Files\\Bacula\\plugins"
  Maximum Concurrent Jobs = 10
}
#
# List Directors who are permitted to contact this File daemon
#
Director {
  Name = backup.mydomainname.com-fd
  Password = "mypassword"
}
#
# Restricted Director, used by tray-monitor to get the
#   status of the file daemon
#
Director {
  Name = @monitor_name@
  Password = "@monitor_password@"
  Monitor = yes
}
# Send all messages except skipped files back to Director
Messages {
  Name = Standard
  director = backup.mydomainname.com-fd = all, !skipped, !restored
}
The password is the same on the client and the servert, I checked
that. Anyhow, it should be possible to start the deamon/service even if the
client have no contact with the servere, right?

Anybody have a fix on this?

Best regards
Albin
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jerry  wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +
> Paul B Mahol  articulated:
>
>
> > On 7/24/10, Jerry  wrote:
> > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +
> > > Paul B Mahol  articulated:
> > >
> > >> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
> > >> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
> > >> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
> > >> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
> > >> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
> > >> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
> > >> yet...
> > >> Feel free to send patches.
> > >
> > > I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not
> > > support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure
> > > and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in
> > > FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends
> > > something to laugh about.
> >
> > And bwn(4) doesn't work at all?
>
> 
> bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver
> 
>
> You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case,
> it is limited to 'broadcom' chips.
>
> --
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>

Nope, bwn did not work. The man page mentioned a port that also had to be
installed. It had two modules, which I put in loader.conf one at a time
along with if_bwn.ko, but still no luck.

The card I have has a Broadcom 4353 chipset.  I think it is b/g/n.

Regards
Gautham
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:45:24 +
Paul B Mahol  articulated:


> On 7/24/10, Jerry  wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +
> > Paul B Mahol  articulated:
> >
> >> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
> >> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
> >> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
> >> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
> >> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
> >> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
> >> yet...
> >> Feel free to send patches.
> >
> > I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not
> > support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure
> > and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in
> > FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends
> > something to laugh about.
> 
> And bwn(4) doesn't work at all?


bwn -- Broadcom BCM43xx IEEE 802.11b/g wireless network driver


You will notice that there is no 'n' in the description. In any case,
it is limited to 'broadcom' chips.

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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 7/24/10, Jerry  wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +
> Paul B Mahol  articulated:
>
>> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
>> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
>> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
>> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
>> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
>> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
>> yet...
>> Feel free to send patches.
>
> I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not
> support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure
> and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in
> FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends
> something to laugh about.

And bwn(4) doesn't work at all?
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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:01:24 +
Paul B Mahol  articulated:

> Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
> NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
> I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
> understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
> device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
> should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
> yet...
> Feel free to send patches.

I feel his pain. I need 64 bit drivers for cards that FBSD does not
support, mostly 'N' protocol wireless cards. The inability to secure
and use perfectly good drivers that are available for Windows users in
FreeBSD is a real PIA. Of course, it does give my Window user friends
something to laugh about.

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Re: 64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-24 Thread Paul B Mahol
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Gautham Ganapathy  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom
> BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to
> download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the kernel
> module (I am using the 64-bit WinXP driver and freebsd amd64), I get errors
> when I try to load it. It says that the following symbols are missing
>
> ZwQueryInformationFile
> ZwCreateFile
> ZwReadFile
> IoUnregisterPlugPlayNotification
> ExFreePoolWithTag
>
> According to MSDN, these were introduced in Windows 2000.
>
> Is there any way of getting this driver running ?

Such symbols are completly irrelevant for normal operation, because
NDISulator crash on amd64 during driver initialization.
I fixed this in my own git repo, but "fpudna in kernel mode" (my
understanding is that it is source of panic when trying to use ndis0
device on amd64), present only on amd64 is still not yet fixed - this
should be addressed with fpu_kern KPI available on CURRENT - not done
yet...
Feel free to send patches.
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64-bit Windows XP NDIS drivers giving missing symbols

2010-07-23 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
Hi

I have an Alienware m11x with a Dell 1520 wireless minicard (Broadcom
BCM4353 chipset). It comes with only Windows 7 drivers, but I was able to
download Windows XP drivers seperately. However, after I generate the kernel
module (I am using the 64-bit WinXP driver and freebsd amd64), I get errors
when I try to load it. It says that the following symbols are missing

ZwQueryInformationFile
ZwCreateFile
ZwReadFile
IoUnregisterPlugPlayNotification
ExFreePoolWithTag

According to MSDN, these were introduced in Windows 2000.

Is there any way of getting this driver running ?

Regards
Gautham
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Re: 64 Bit OS

2010-06-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

> I'm not all up on my Dell models, but I think the 1950 shouldn't
> have any troubles with AMD64.

If we go into the details, each model of PowerEdge supports several
different CPU :)  So the OP would have to go to the details of his 1950
to know whether amd64 is supported.

Best regards,

olivier
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Re: 64 Bit OS

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Vande More
>
> Yes.
>
> For historical reason, because amd was the first on the market to
> produce 64 bit CPU, it is called amd64.
>

It went by x86-64 while in development which is why some Linux distro's use
that term.  Sometimes you'll get a question like "Why don't you use the
x86_64 naming convention like the rest of Linux?".  (There is more than one
thing wrong with that question)  AMD64 is what x86-64 officially became.
Intel doesn't technically use AMD64, but instead uses a compatible 64 bit
instruction set.

As far was what the OP should use, depends on the CPU.  Not all Xeon's
support AMD64 but any recent ones should.  I'm not all up on my Dell models,
but I think the 1950 shouldn't have any troubles with AMD64.  However at the
end of the day your choices are AMD64 or i386 as ia64 is for itanium's.  The
Itanium instruction set is completely different than AMD64 and no amount of
coaxing will make it work.



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Re: 64 Bit OS

2010-06-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
> Is it the AMD64 that works with Xeon processors?

Yes.

For historical reason, because amd was the first on the market to
produce 64 bit CPU, it is called amd64.

If you plan to go for FreeBSD 7, you may have to

1) upgrade the firmware of your 1950
2) customize the kernel and remove what is useless

some drivers in the GENERIC kernel hang at boot with FreeBSD 7.

Bests,

Olivier
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64 Bit OS

2010-06-29 Thread Gary Aslanyan
Hello,

 

We want to install a 64 Bit FreeBSD version 6.4 on a Dell Power Edge 1950
with two dual core Xeon 5110 processors and 16GB RAM.

Which version are we supposed to download? Is it the AMD64 that works with
Xeon processors?

Please assist us.

 

Thank You,

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Re: Nehelem & 64 bit, kern conf and /etc/make.conf

2010-01-31 Thread b. f.
>I just installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) onto my new Nehalem-based system.
>
>CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   L5506  @ 2.13GHz (2128.00-MHz K8-class CPU)
>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x106a5  Stepping = 5
>  
> >Features=0xbfebfbffA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>  
> >Features2=0x9ce3bd
>  AMD Features=0x28100800
>  AMD Features2=0x1
>  TSC: P-state invariant
>
>
>I am now in the process of configuring the kernel config file.
>
>A few questions;
>
>1. Is the kernel config file I want to modify
>/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC ?  (Copy that file as /root/PORKY, and
>set up a symlink from /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf to /root/PORKY.)

You don't have to do this: you could just use GENERIC.  But if you
want to build a custom kernel, and you are not familiar with all of
the kernel options, GENERIC is a good starting point.

>
>2. What should I set this line to:
>cpu HAMMER
>Right now it's "HAMMER", I have no idea what Hammer is.  What would be
>the best thing to set it to?  I want to be as specific as possible for
>my CPU type.

Leave this alone.  If you change it, you will break your kernel.  It's
not meant to be customized: it's just a name that was chosen because
it happened to be AMD's prototype 64-bit CPU at the time the amd64
port was being written.

>
>3. The instructions here:
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
>mention a line like this:
>machinei386
>(which would probably by "amd64" in my case), but the "machine" line
>is missing entirely from GENERIC conf file.  Should I add it?

No, leave it alone.  The documentation is outdated; this option is now
set in DEFAULTS, which is a small list of very important stuff that
every kernel of a certain architecture must contain in order to
function properly.   It is not meant to be customizable.

>
>4. In /etc/make.conf, I'm used to having, for example:
>CPUTYPE?=core2
>What would be my CPU in this case (Xeon L5506)?  I know this line is
>not necessary, but I'd like to set it to the most specific kind of CPU
>possible for my case to gain any optimizations, so long as it does not
>make my system unstable.

This option is only used to set the flags for the C and C++ compilers.
 The base system compiler for FreeBSD 7-9 is a patched version of gcc
4.2, and is hooked up to a patched version of binutils 2.15.  This
compiler suite and tool-chain are not new enough to take full
advantage of your CPU: the best you can do is set it to auto-detect
your CPU, or hard-code it to the most modern compatible CPU that
existed when the compiler suite and tool-chain were written.  However,
some people have started to use newer compilers and tool-chains from
FreeBSD Ports (some ports even require it), and if you do that, you
may need a different value.  Probably, your best bet is to use:

CPUTYPE?= native

and to check to make sure that the base system compiler is actually
equating this with 'nocona', and enabling all of your SIMD extensions
that it supports.  This won't make a great deal of difference for
kernel performance, but it will affect other base system programs and
ports if you are using CFLAGS with -march or other optimization flags.


b.
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Nehelem & 64 bit, kern conf and /etc/make.conf

2010-01-30 Thread Nerius Landys
I just installed FreeBSD 8.0 (amd64) onto my new Nehalem-based system.

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   L5506  @ 2.13GHz (2128.00-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x106a5  Stepping = 5
  
Features=0xbfebfbff
  
Features2=0x9ce3bd
  AMD Features=0x28100800
  AMD Features2=0x1
  TSC: P-state invariant


I am now in the process of configuring the kernel config file.

A few questions;

1. Is the kernel config file I want to modify
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC ?  (Copy that file as /root/PORKY, and
set up a symlink from /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf to /root/PORKY.)

2. What should I set this line to:
cpu HAMMER
Right now it's "HAMMER", I have no idea what Hammer is.  What would be
the best thing to set it to?  I want to be as specific as possible for
my CPU type.

3. The instructions here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
mention a line like this:
machinei386
(which would probably by "amd64" in my case), but the "machine" line
is missing entirely from GENERIC conf file.  Should I add it?

4. In /etc/make.conf, I'm used to having, for example:
CPUTYPE?=core2
What would be my CPU in this case (Xeon L5506)?  I know this line is
not necessary, but I'd like to set it to the most specific kind of CPU
possible for my case to gain any optimizations, so long as it does not
make my system unstable.
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64-bit or 32-bit bind and DHCP

2010-01-11 Thread Martin McCormick
We are upgrading our FreeBSD servers to FreeBSD8.0 and most of
the servers are 64-bit platforms. At one time, there was an
issue in which either bind or dhcpd actually ran a bit slower in
the 64-bit version of FreeBSD. Are there any similar issues
these days or should I use 64-bit where possible?

Many thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
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ANNOUNCE: 64 bit 8.0-RELEASE-p1 Custom XFCE build available

2009-12-26 Thread Manolis Kiagias
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Hey all,

I have just completed the long awaited, first 64bit build of the
'Custom releases'
project hosted here:

http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com

You may download the ISO file immediately using the downloads page:

http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page

This release is based on the latest XFCE desktop and includes a wide
variety
of desktop-related packages, like OpenOffice, abiword, gnumeric,
firefox35,
gimp, inkscape, evince and so on. The base system is 8.0-RELEASE-p1 which
includes the latest security fixes.

Make sure to read the README file:

http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/amd64/README.TXT

as it contains important information on installation and esp. a few steps
that are required for a successful install.  In particular note:

* The 'doc' set (FreeBSD documentation) is not included in this
release due
  to problems in the related package builds. We will include them in
  next releases when the problem is resolved.

* The 'libchek-0.9.8' will have to be selected manually in the package
  selection dialog. This seems to be a problem with the INDEX file.

* Installing linux related packages during initial setup needs a few more
  steps. This is due to differences in sysinstall between 7.X and 8.0
releases.
 A detailed explanation is provided in the README file.

As always, please report any problems, success stories, comments and
criticisms to mano...@freebsd.org
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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-04 Thread Chris Rees
2009/7/2 Sam Fourman Jr. :
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
>> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?
>
> amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's
>
> right now the big limitation for me is you can not
> have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64
>
> progress has been made on this front in the last month.
>

Really? Can I have a link please?? I really want to migrate...

Chris


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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?

amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's

right now the big limitation for me is you can not
have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64

progress has been made on this front in the last month.


Sam Fourman Jr
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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
> amd64

Ah-hah. Thanks!
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Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?
>
> I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too
> limited to confidently draw conclusions:
> <http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/>

amd64


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FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems

2009-07-01 Thread Daniel Underwood
Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems?

I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too
limited to confidently draw conclusions:
<http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/>
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Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Seaman

Shakil Khan wrote:


Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to
BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without
howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in
this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but it
intrigued my mind too much so thought to delve into it keeping aside my
fear.


If you're not sure which is the right list, then questi...@ is a good place
to start.  I'd hope no one would fear to ask what they needed to know in this
list, or it will have become pretty useless for its intended function.  


I have a 64bit intel processor, Dual core machine and I have installed 64
bit Linux as well as FreeBSD and thought of seeing the size of integer. On
both the platform my integer is showing 4 bytes which is 32 bit. I thought
integer are the most basic of the data types and governs the architecture as
32 bit or 64 bit, so why integer shows me 4bytes instead of 8. Does this
means that even on 64 bit architecture we are limited to just 4GB of RAM.


Not at all.  'int' is just one of the basic types mandated by the various
C specifications over the years.  There are 4 basic integer types -- together
with their unsigned counterparts:

 char unsigned char   --- usually 1 byte[*].
 shortunsigned short  --- usually 2 bytes
 int  unsigned--- usually 4 bytes
 long unsigned long   --- nowadays usually 8 bytes

Now, the C standards only require that the lengths of these types fulfil
the following condition:

short <= int <= long

and there are some older CPU architectures where short and int are 2 bytes
and long is 4 bytes, but those are exceedingly rare nowadays and you won't
run into anything like that unless you work on embedded systems.

In general the sizes above are what pretty much all current CPUs since about
2000 have supported -- mostly because that's what the Intel x86 series used.
Before then there were quite a few CPUs where 'long' was 4 bytes, but those
sizes were otherwise about the same.

However, it's not the size of 'int' which is the important thing.  It's
the size of pointers.

The big deal with 64bit vs 32bit architectures is having registers of the
appropriate length that you can do 64bit integer operations natively.  This
particularly applies to memory address manipulation.  In principle you can
make a composite integer type of any length by stringing together as many 
shorter types as you want, but in practice that's too inefficient for most

purposes, especially anything as fundamental as memory addressing. So pointers
are generally no longer than the widest hardware registers on the CPU.  Hence
the length of pointers (memory addresses) is the fundamental distinction.
On a 32bit architecture, pointers are 4bytes long and can address up to 
4294967296 bytes (4GiB) of RAM. On a 64bit machines pointers are 8bytes long

and can address 18446744073709551616 bytes (16EiB) of RAM.  The Intel Core 2
Duo is capable of running in either 32 or 64 bit mode.  This C snippet will
show you how long some important types are on your system:

#include 

int
main (int argc, char *argv)
{
 printf( "int:\t%d\nlong:\t%d\npointer:\t%d\n", sizeof(int),
 sizeof(long), sizeof(void*) );
}

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] char can sometimes be an unsigned quantity, in which case there
   should be a 'signed char' equivalent.

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Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Michael Powell
Shakil Khan wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to
> BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without
> howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in
> this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but
> it intrigued my mind too much so thought to delve into it keeping aside my
> fear.
> 
> I have a 64bit intel processor, Dual core machine and I have installed 64
> bit Linux as well as FreeBSD and thought of seeing the size of integer. On
> both the platform my integer is showing 4 bytes which is 32 bit. I thought
> integer are the most basic of the data types and governs the architecture
> as 32 bit or 64 bit, so why integer shows me 4bytes instead of 8. Does
> this means that even on 64 bit architecture we are limited to just 4GB of
> RAM.
> 

No, because INT is not the only variable type available for numerical 
operations. Long and Long Long are 64 bits, and utilizing these types allows 
for larger than 4GB RAM addressing. 

-Mike




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Re: why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Shakil Khan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to
> BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without
> howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in
> this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but it
> intrigued my mind too much so thought to delve into it keeping aside my
> fear.
> 
> I have a 64bit intel processor, Dual core machine and I have installed 64
> bit Linux as well as FreeBSD and thought of seeing the size of integer. On
> both the platform my integer is showing 4 bytes which is 32 bit. I thought
> integer are the most basic of the data types and governs the architecture as
> 32 bit or 64 bit, so why integer shows me 4bytes instead of 8. Does this
> means that even on 64 bit architecture we are limited to just 4GB of RAM.

Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Specific_data_models

FreeBSD and Linux use the LP64 model.



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why integer size says 4 bytes on 64 bit processor

2009-05-25 Thread Shakil Khan
Hi All,

Pardon me if I am writing this mail to the wrong group as I am too new to
BSD and programming stuff. You can redirect me to right group without
howling. By seeing some recent conversations(About the top status ;)) in
this group it made me nervous to ask for a silly question like this, but it
intrigued my mind too much so thought to delve into it keeping aside my
fear.

I have a 64bit intel processor, Dual core machine and I have installed 64
bit Linux as well as FreeBSD and thought of seeing the size of integer. On
both the platform my integer is showing 4 bytes which is 32 bit. I thought
integer are the most basic of the data types and governs the architecture as
32 bit or 64 bit, so why integer shows me 4bytes instead of 8. Does this
means that even on 64 bit architecture we are limited to just 4GB of RAM.

Please explain.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: 64-Bit Linux Applications

2009-05-13 Thread Ricardo Jesus

Konrad Heuer wrote:


Hello,

can I run 64 bit Linux applications on FreeBSD/amd64? Or is Linux 
emulation 32 bit only?


Thanks and best regards
Konrad


Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheu...@gwdg.de
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To my knowledge 32 bit only.
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64-Bit Linux Applications

2009-05-11 Thread Konrad Heuer


Hello,

can I run 64 bit Linux applications on FreeBSD/amd64? Or is Linux 
emulation 32 bit only?


Thanks and best regards
Konrad


Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheu...@gwdg.de
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Re: 7.1 64 bit

2009-03-20 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gal Lis  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I have a mixed update: I was able to get it running, but once
> it starts, it gets stuck. Here are the last two lines: isab0:  bridge. at device 31.0 on pci0
> isa0:  on isab0
>
> Please let me know if you need more info, or you have any advice on what
> this could be.
>
>

I do not know exact reason of that problem , but i can say the following :

Another approach may be to install 7.1 i386 ISO . If  32-bits works . but
64-bits does not work .
it may mean that a hardware part is not usable by the 64-bits operating
system .


If 32-bits even does not work ( we know that 6.4 32-bits is working ) this
may mean that in your
PC there is an older hardware which its support is or has been removed from
the operating system .


Another approach would be removal of components from ISA slots and then try
to boot the 64-bits operating system . If it can boot , then add the ISA
components one-by-one to isolate which component is causing the lock up .

If even this does not work :

Then best action may be to use 6.4  or if it is possible to replace the
older hardware by a newer  ( or compatible )  hardware .  In new main boards
there is no ISA bus slots . ISA slots components  approximately can NOT be
auto-detected easily because they do not have such a related circuitry .


There is another point : Some manufacturers are producing parts which can
only work by a famous
widely used operating system by cutting some electronic circuitry parts .
Such components can NOT work under Unix or Linux . During selection of parts
it may be useful to check whether at least it can work under Linux if BSD is
not mentioned at all .



Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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