Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 30 December 2010 07:21, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/30/10 15:52, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.net wrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule ... It's seems to be the most common misusage, but I have seen her's, our's, and occasionally their's. Interestingly, I've never seen anyone write hi's when meaning his. On the other hand, people who write loose when they mean lose deserve our most scathing scorn. :) Perhaps they have merely lost their linguistic bearings. Innaddverttentt ddoubblle llettterss ccann occcassionnallly bbee ccaussedd bby ffllakkeey kkeeybbooarddss :)) I find most teenagers (and getting older too) can't tell the difference- and its not their keyboards. Oddly enough, their teachers do it on a regular basis as well: in their handwriting! This teacher doesn't thank you very much! That is, if the poor kids can read my writing Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 18:10, Chris Rees wrote: On 30 December 2010 07:21, Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/30/10 15:52, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.netwrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule ... It's seems to be the most common misusage, but I have seen her's, our's, and occasionally their's. Interestingly, I've never seen anyone write hi's when meaning his. On the other hand, people who write loose when they mean lose deserve our most scathing scorn. :) Perhaps they have merely lost their linguistic bearings. Innaddverttentt ddoubblle llettterss ccann occcassionnallly bbee ccaussedd bby ffllakkeey kkeeybbooarddss :)) I find most teenagers (and getting older too) can't tell the difference- and its not their keyboards. Oddly enough, their teachers do it on a regular basis as well: in their handwriting! This teacher doesn't thank you very much! That is, if the poor kids can read my writing Chris Sorry, but on the upside it does seem to be centered on Queensland, Australia; with expanding concentric circles from there. The driving tends to follow this general intelligence level as well... ;) (I was brought up and taught in the southern states) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 20:12, Eitan Adler wrote: Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Generally - don't do this. I kinda got that impression already, but can someone enlighten me why (apart from the obvious, of course- it could break the makefile if you forget)? And is that in general or just this line? I ask because I'm currently editing the Makefile with some new variables to test a fix. Oh, the irony! :) I considered doing that, but I thought there might have been some magic incantation that got around this... There is make -DTRYBROKEN Thanks for the reply, but can someone tell me if this is documented anywhere particularly? I'm going to be pissed if I missed it ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Generally - don't do this. Oh, the irony! :) I considered doing that, but I thought there might have been some magic incantation that got around this... There is make -DTRYBROKEN -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:31:37 -0800, mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form: Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it has in place, then it's its, not it's. :) True. I should be more careful about spelling when I post aftre 02:00am in the night! Thanks :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 30/12/2010 10:37, Da Rock wrote: On 12/30/10 20:12, Eitan Adler wrote: Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Generally - don't do this. I kinda got that impression already, but can someone enlighten me why (apart from the obvious, of course- it could break the makefile if you forget)? And is that in general or just this line? This advice is correct for someone who just wants to /use/ the ports -- not so good if your intention is to /develop/ the ports. And I think fixing the reason a port is marked BROKEN certainly puts you in the development camp. A very good tip: if you are editing the port, then it pays to check it out from one of the anon-CVS servers while you work on it. You get all the usual VCS capabilities and it's easier to revert any changes etc. You don't need to check out the whole ports tree -- just your port of interest will be fine, and you don't need to keep it in the normal ports tree. See Ion Mihai's article here for lots of good practices: http://ionut.tetcu.info/FreeBSD/How-to-submit-a-diff.txt and all about FreeBSD Anon-CVS here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/anoncvs.html Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
Thanks for the reply, but can someone tell me if this is documented anywhere particularly? I'm going to be pissed if I missed it ;) It does not seem to be documented anywhere. I found it by grepping for BROKEN in the Mk subdirectory. I will submit a pr now to add it to ports(7) and the top of bsd.port.mk -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
I'm pretty sure it's in the Porter's Handbook under the marking as BROKEN section Chris Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do threading. On 30 Dec 2010 11:32, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: Thanks for the reply, but can someone tell me if this is documented anywhere particularly? I'm going to be pissed if I missed it ;) It does not seem to be documented anywhere. I found it by grepping for BROKEN in the Mk subdirectory. I will submit a pr now to add it to ports(7) and the top of bsd.port.mk -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's in the Porter's Handbook under the marking as BROKEN
section
Heh - now I feel silly for missing it :-{
Either way it should be documented in ports(7) and bsd.port.mk.
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Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
I agree. Go for it!
Chris
Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do
threading.
On 30 Dec 2010 11:44, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's in the Porter's Handbook under the marking as BROKEN
section
Heh - now I feel silly for missing it :-{
Either way it should be documented in ports(7) and bsd.port.mk.
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Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 21:44, Eitan Adler wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's in the Porter's Handbook under the marking as BROKEN
section
Heh - now I feel silly for missing it :-{
Either way it should be documented in ports(7) and bsd.port.mk.
Not as silly as me: I read through that section thoroughly trying to
work out the mechanics of it all, and the bsd.port.mk file...
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Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:52:48 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Interestingly, I've never seen anyone write hi's when meaning his. Come to Germany, where ' is used to * indicate that a s will follow, * indicate that a t will follow, or * indicate that the word will end. In most cases, ' is replaced by `. Inn Germenny new Englis Orfograffy iss, very importent too the shildren in schol were thei ha've learn how to propperly write. Nicht`s ist verboten, wenn man nich't erwischt wird. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to build a BROKEN port?
Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one force/override building a port marked as broken? I'm not about to run a make install clean on it, but I would like to at least have a crack at trying to fix whats wrong. In this particular case its involving a particular arch, and seeing as I have this arch I'd reckon I'm an ideal candidate to try and help fix it :) I poked around for a bit for an answer, but pretty much all the info is on how to mark it as broken- not overriding it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000 Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one force/override building a port marked as broken? Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000, Da Rock
freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one
force/override building a port marked as broken?
I'm not about to run a make install clean on it, but I would like to at
least have a crack at trying to fix whats wrong. In this particular case
its involving a particular arch, and seeing as I have this arch I'd
reckon I'm an ideal candidate to try and help fix it :)
I poked around for a bit for an answer, but pretty much all the info is
on how to mark it as broken- not overriding it.
Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form:
.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} = amd64
BROKEN= This port fails to frobnicate foo on amd64.
.endif
Remove this assignment, build the port and try to debug its problems.
When you have a fix, run make clean in the port directory, save a copy
of the entire port subdirectory somewhere and email the person or team
listed in MAINTAINER with your fix.
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Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 11:09, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one force/override building a port marked as broken? Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Oh, the irony! :) I considered doing that, but I thought there might have been some magic incantation that got around this... Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 11:10, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000, Da
Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote:
Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one
force/override building a port marked as broken?
I'm not about to run a make install clean on it, but I would like to at
least have a crack at trying to fix whats wrong. In this particular case
its involving a particular arch, and seeing as I have this arch I'd
reckon I'm an ideal candidate to try and help fix it :)
I poked around for a bit for an answer, but pretty much all the info is
on how to mark it as broken- not overriding it.
Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form:
.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} = amd64
BROKEN= This port fails to frobnicate foo on amd64.
.endif
Remove this assignment, build the port and try to debug its problems.
When you have a fix, run make clean in the port directory, save a copy
of the entire port subdirectory somewhere and email the person or team
listed in MAINTAINER with your fix.
I got that one. But what you have replied here has got my attention:
${MACHINE_ARCH} and ${ARCH} the same? I have ${ARCH} in this one.
.if ${ARCH} == amd64
I'm stupid now, but I will learn... :)
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Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form: Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it has in place, then it's its, not it's. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 11:31, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidaskeram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form: Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it has in place, then it's its, not it's. :) Fine line that one :) I've always thought that was the case (primary school english), but couldn't quite remember if that was accurate. Thanks for the confim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Wed 29 Dec 2010 at 17:31:37 PST Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form: Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it has in place, then it's its, not it's. :) English has some funny rules. Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule. So I tend to be more forgiving when people get it wrong -- especially when English is not their native tongue. On the other hand, people who write loose when they mean lose deserve our most scathing scorn. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 17:42, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule. So I tend to be more forgiving when people get it wrong -- especially when English is not their native tongue. It is not an exception - just the only one that's confusing. Apostrophes for possessives only applies to nouns, not pronouns (its, hers, yours, etc.). It's recieves an apostrophe because it is a contraction, like that's. Supposedly, English has a lot more homonyms than other languages. -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:10:04 +1000 Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/30/10 11:09, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one force/override building a port marked as broken? Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Oh, the irony! :) I considered doing that, but I thought there might have been some magic incantation that got around this... Have you never read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, any of the Harry Potters, or the Bible? There's always deeper magic that's held back until it's dramatically convenient. TRYBROKEN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 12:27, RW wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:10:04 +1000 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: On 12/30/10 11:09, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:49:25 +1000 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: Pardon me for being the queer one to ask this- but how does one force/override building a port marked as broken? Edit the port's Makefile and comment-out the BROKEN line. Oh, the irony! :) I considered doing that, but I thought there might have been some magic incantation that got around this... Have you never read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, any of the Harry Potters, or the Bible? There's always deeper magic that's held back until it's dramatically convenient. TRYBROKEN LOL :) I knew there had to be something! I just couldn't find it in the ocean of information on ports. So... make -DTRYBROKEN Thanks guys. Now to crack the mongrel holding up my perfectly updated box... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule ... It's seems to be the most common misusage, but I have seen her's, our's, and occasionally their's. Interestingly, I've never seen anyone write hi's when meaning his. On the other hand, people who write loose when they mean lose deserve our most scathing scorn. :) Perhaps they have merely lost their linguistic bearings. Innaddverttentt ddoubblle llettterss ccann occcassionnallly bbee ccaussedd bby ffllakkeey kkeeybbooarddss :)) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to build a BROKEN port?
On 12/30/10 15:52, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.net wrote: Most of the time, possessives are formed with apostrophe+s. I'm not sure, but its might be the only exception to the rule ... It's seems to be the most common misusage, but I have seen her's, our's, and occasionally their's. Interestingly, I've never seen anyone write hi's when meaning his. On the other hand, people who write loose when they mean lose deserve our most scathing scorn. :) Perhaps they have merely lost their linguistic bearings. Innaddverttentt ddoubblle llettterss ccann occcassionnallly bbee ccaussedd bby ffllakkeey kkeeybbooarddss :)) I find most teenagers (and getting older too) can't tell the difference- and its not their keyboards. Oddly enough, their teachers do it on a regular basis as well: in their handwriting! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
