Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-26 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/25/07, Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:26 PMAug 24, 2007, Noel Jones wrote:

 [snip]

  an easier way is to run spamassassin under the control of amavisd-new
  and let amavisd-new add address extensions such as user+spam and to
  let dovecot file the mail in a spam folder.

 Noel,

 Are you saying I just need amavisd-new installed and properly
 configured?  Is there something I need to tell dovecot?

 A bit more information in regards to where I can look for
 documentation would be appreciated!


look in the amavisd-new, dovecot, and postfix docs for recipient
delimiter.  Followup questions should go to the list for one of those
projects.

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-25 Thread Eric Crist


On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:26 PMAug 24, 2007, Noel Jones wrote:

[snip]


an easier way is to run spamassassin under the control of amavisd-new
and let amavisd-new add address extensions such as user+spam and to
let dovecot file the mail in a spam folder.


Noel,

Are you saying I just need amavisd-new installed and properly  
configured?  Is there something I need to tell dovecot?


A bit more information in regards to where I can look for  
documentation would be appreciated!


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Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 24, 2007 8:32:01 AM -0500 Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hey,

Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
lacking.

TIA for any help!


What is it that you want to do?

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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

Hey,

Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix  
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is  
lacking.


TIA for any help!

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Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Martin Hepworth
Eric

why not stick with an MTA you know?

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On 8/24/07, Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey,

 Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
 and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
 lacking.

 TIA for any help!

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 Secure Computing Networks


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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Gerard
On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:


 Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix  
 and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is  
 lacking.

Define funky!

Before you start asking questions regarding configuring Postfix, it
might behoove you to check out the Postfix documentation site
http://www.postfix.com/documentation.html. It is loaded with lots of
useful information. You might also consider joining the Postfix
mailing list.


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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:


On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:



Is there anyone that can help me do some funky filtering with postfix
and spamassassin?  I'm a new Postfix convert, and my knowledge is
lacking.


Define funky!

Before you start asking questions regarding configuring Postfix, it
might behoove you to check out the Postfix documentation site
http://www.postfix.com/documentation.html. It is loaded with lots of
useful information. You might also consider joining the Postfix
mailing list.



This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm  
looking for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets,  
so that I can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory  
with a users maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't  
seem to figure this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially  
due to lack of effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup  
for my domains within Postfix.


TIA
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Crist

On Aug 24, 2007, at 8:46 AMAug 24, 2007, Martin Hepworth wrote:


Eric

why not stick with an MTA you know?


Martin,

I've switched to postfix due to some of the features it supports.

Thanks for your concern, though.
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Eric

Eric Crist wrote:


This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking 
for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I 
can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users 
maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't seem to figure 
this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially due to lack of 
effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup for my domains 
within Postfix.




Same setup here basically: Dovecot, Postfix, SA, clamav, postgrey and 
amavisd


i use procmail to filter things. it works well and was easy to 
integrate. I never played with DKIM though.


I must say that most of the spam that does come in I never see in a spam 
folder. its too high on the scores to even get delivered


if you havent played with postgrey yet, give it a whirl. it works wonders.
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Re[2]: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Gerard
On August 24, 2007 at 10:34AM Eric Crist wrote:

{snip]

 I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm  
 looking for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets,  
 so that I can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory  
 with a users maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't  
 seem to figure this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially  
 due to lack of effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup  
 for my domains within Postfix.

Have you tried posting on the 'Spamassassin' list also? That is
probably where this message belongs. The DKIM problem should be
directed to the Postfix forum for best results.

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 24, 2007 09:46:32 -0500 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Eric Crist wrote:


This is also a reply to Paul Schmehl.

I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
maildir.  I've done a ton of searches, etc, and I can't seem to figure
this one out.  Also, I'm having a hard time (partially due to lack of
effort, I'm guessing), getting DKIM/DomainKeys setup for my domains
within Postfix.



Same setup here basically: Dovecot, Postfix, SA, clamav, postgrey and
amavisd

i use procmail to filter things. it works well and was easy to integrate.
I never played with DKIM though.

I must say that most of the spam that does come in I never see in a spam
folder. its too high on the scores to even get delivered

if you havent played with postgrey yet, give it a whirl. it works wonders.


You may also want to consider using policyd-weight 
(/usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight).  A mail server I maintain is 
rejecting about 80% of the mail through policyd-weight before it ever 
reaches postfix (no false positives.)


You should be able to use dkfilter to handle domain keys:
/usr/ports]# make search name=dkfilter
Port:   dkfilter-0.11
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/dkfilter
Info:   Domainkeys filter for Postfix

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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Peter Boosten


Eric Crist wrote:
 On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:
 
 On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:


 
 I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
 for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
 can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
 maildir.  

Assuming you got SA running:
In my main.cf:
header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks


This is in my header_checks:

/^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Peter
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Re: Postfix/SpamAssassin Guru?

2007-08-24 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/24/07, Peter Boosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Eric Crist wrote:
  On Aug 24, 2007, at 9:05 AMAug 24, 2007, Gerard wrote:
 
  On August 24, 2007 at 09:32AM Eric Crist wrote:
 
 
 
  I've got Postfix with Dovecot and virtual users setup.  What I'm looking
  for is some filtering based on the flags SpamAssassin sets, so that I
  can route any messages tagged as Spam to a Spam directory with a users
  maildir.

 Assuming you got SA running:
 In my main.cf:
 header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks


 This is in my header_checks:

 /^X-Spam-Flag: YES/ REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Peter

Note that REDIRECT acts on all recipients of a message, and cannot be
customized per-user.  In the above example, *all* tagged spam would be
delivered to a single mailbox.  OK if that's what you want.

an easier way is to run spamassassin under the control of amavisd-new
and let amavisd-new add address extensions such as user+spam and to
let dovecot file the mail in a spam folder.

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postfix + spamassassin via milter

2007-07-15 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
I running postfix from ports.  I would like to block as much spam as  
possible during the SMTP session.  Currently I am make liberal use of  
RBLs (direct in postfix configuration) and also using SPF using the  
spfpolicy daemon.


I would like to add spam assassin to the list (and possibly clamav).

Most of what I see about integrating spam assassin with postfix  
requires that the mail be accepted for queueing before spam checks  
are run.  I would prefer to reject the mail after DATA during the  
SMTP dialogue.


I see that postfix now does sendmail style milters.  Is that the  
recommended way to go with this?  I see that there is a mail/spamass- 
milter port.  I anyone using that with postfix 2.4.3?


Thanks.

-j


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Re: postfix + spamassassin via milter

2007-07-15 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote:


Have a look at messagewall.


That you.  I've tried to take a look, but it appears that the  
projects domain name now belongs to someone else.  Furthermore, I  
also wish to reject mail early which is addressed to invalid  
usernames, and such a proxy doesn't do that (without a great deal of  
work and more things which can break).


However, if I were trying to protect something like an MS-Exchange  
server, I would definitely consider using a proxy in front of it.   
However since I've got postfix with its power and capabilities, I  
won't go this route.


But thanks for the suggestion.

-j



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Re: postfix + spamassassin via milter

2007-07-15 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Jul 15, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

I running postfix from ports.  I would like to block as much spam  
as possible during the SMTP session. [...]


I see that postfix now does sendmail style milters.  Is that the  
recommended way to go with this?  I see that there is a mail/ 
spamass-milter port.  I anyone using that with postfix 2.4.3?


Here is what I have working so far.

Straight from ports


 p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.1
 spamass-milter-0.3.1_3
 postfix-2.4.3,1

To get postfix to use the milter, I added

 # milters for spam assassin
 milter_default_action = accept
 smtpd_milters = unix:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock

to main.cf

Note that the milter_default_action setting is so that if I mess up  
the milter, mail still goes through.  I may set this to tempfail once  
I am more confident.


Also to allow postfix to talk to the milter I added

 spamass_milter_socket_group=mail
 spamass_milter_socket_mode=664

to /etc/rc.conf (in addition to the _enable variables).

I will submit a PR with an addition to the documentation explaining  
how to do this  with postfix.


What I've been having the most difficulty with is spammassassin  
itself.  It runs correctly as the spamd user (note that this is *not*  
the spamd which is the BSD tarpit, but is a daemonized spamassassin.)  
but it still seems to think that is also running as user root and so  
tries to write things in


   /root/.spamassassin

Now if I change the ownership of that spamd then everything works  
fine, but I really don't want my bayes and whitelist database on the  
root filesystem.  I can (and have) manually set the paths for the  
bayes data and the autowhitelist data to a more  appropriate  
location, but the later path setting feature appears undocumented,  
and I still haven't figured out what path variable to set for the  
user preferences (so each time mail comes into the server,  
spamassassin, run as spamd, tries to read /root/.spamassassin/user_pref.


I'm sure that I could probably trace out the separate configuration  
variable to set that to the right location, but I'm wondering why  
spamassassin is looking in root's home directory at all instead of  
the spamd home directory.


-j




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Postfix SpamAssassin

2003-02-01 Thread JoeB
Can Spamassassin work directly with Postfix? 
Meaning no procmail in the mix?
IF so is there any HOWTO's on it?


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Re: Postfix SpamAssassin

2003-02-01 Thread Len Conrad


Can Spamassassin work directly with Postfix?


yes, as a content-filter, see the Spamassassin site, see the postfix site.

Len


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