Re: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying

2009-01-27 Thread Warren Liddell
> Hi Warren
>
> I also had this problem, I resolved it by;
> portupgrade -Rf firefox
>
> My understanding is that this goes and forcibly builds all of the ports
> that firefox depends on, then firefox itself.
>
> If you run the commands with truss it will give you some debug information
> on what it is getting stuck on.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Craig Butler

 Thanks, i did this and everything works fine now, guess something in the 
packagaes got a bit screwd around somewhere.
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Re: Programs loading but sitting in limbo whilst not displaying

2009-01-27 Thread craig001
> Im running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE4.1.4 and recently for no reason i can
> think of when i try and load FireFox or Thunderbird, according to my process
> list, the applications are running, but yet they dont ever show up in KDE to
> use//liaise with.  I have even started them from command line but again,
> nothing, it just sits there, no error msg, but process list again, sais there
> running.
>
> I have tried recompiling both ports with no success and im runnin gout of
> theorys as to whats happening.
>
> Any ideas/thoughts welcomed.
>
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Hi Warren

I also had this problem, I resolved it by;
portupgrade -Rf firefox

My understanding is that this goes and forcibly builds all of the ports that
firefox depends on, then firefox itself.

If you run the commands with truss it will give you some debug information on
what it is getting stuck on.

Kind Regards

Craig Butler


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Re: [Fwd: Re: programs...]

2009-01-16 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:22:40PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> 

> What about Miro?
> 
Somelike like miro is a start, but may need a special or 
different kind of interface.   Say that you KNOW you want to hear
a show on the BBC every week.  [Sure, just set it up on Google,
right...?]  Have the same podcast-storing//link caching deal on
miro.  Or say that you missing a broadcast of NOVA on a few
days,weeks back.  You don't knoe if the show is webcast, it's
name, it's date(s).

Miro is one of the few streams that always just-works.  Be great
to have just-one-program whose stream never failed.  If it were
available for d/load, or if I could intercept/capture the stream
somehow for when I had TIME to watch/listen... Outstanding.


Feedback, anybody??

gary



> > > > Guys,
> > > > 
> > > > I've going to give away what I think could be at least a
> > > > multi-thousand dollar idea, something we nearly have already.
> > > > And a wish-list for a program that does not, AFAIK, exist.
> > > 
> > > Its called iTunes.
> > > 
> > > > First, the wish-for:: given all the kinds of video and audio
> > > > programs that are now on the web, how difficult would it be
> > > > to have a GUI [interface] program pop up a screen with date of
> > > > airing, and/or date of podcast?  Not to exceed several hours
> > > > worth of recorded podcasts... or live recording.
> > > 
> > > iTunes will suck them down and has settings for when (if ever) to delete
> > > old podcasts.
> > > 
> > > > I can only give examples of thing I watch, but this will give
> > > > you some idea.  And bear in mind that at least FreeBSD cannot
> > > > capture some programs.  Like "FRONTLINE" on PBS.
> > > > 
> > > > But for the sake of argument, let's say that firefox or
> > > > whatever browser or kmplayer or another player did have the
> > > > proper codecs.
> > > > 
> > > > This GUI app  would find, fetch, and store in /usr/local/tmp
> > > > FRONTLINE, NOVA, "In Our Time" and "Everyday Ethics" [BBC],
> > > > and "Marketplace", Weekend, 10jan09.  
> > > 
> > > iTunes stores in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Podcasts/
> > 
> > 
> > Music/audio only, or video too?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > When these programs were safely in /usr/local/tmp/Pods, the
> > > > program would send mail or otherwise inform the user.
> > > 
> > > Script from cron to detect presence of a new file in the above, send
> > > notification.
> > > 
> > > There are FreeBSD ports for subscribing to podcasts that could do the
> > > same thing.
> > > 
> > > > How doable is this...?  and, yes, i know that many of these
> > > > audio files can be subscribed to as podcasts.  I have several
> > > > on my Google page.  
> > > 
> > > Get A Mac!
> > > 
> > 
> > Ha!  Well, I stand to inherit my daughter's MacBook in a
> > few years.  Okay, so if Apple has this, can I use it?  I
> > mean for-free, not having to sub to some monthly deal or
> > whatever?
> > 
> > This is an idea I thought up a couple years ago when all
> > the audio podcasts began appearing.  At any rate, seems to
> > me that the open-* community could do at least as well as
> > our brother hackers at Apple.
> > 
> > Just a thought.  
> > 
> > Come Monday, OZ-time, I'll let everybody know my major
> > idea.  
> > 

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Re: programs...

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
What about Miro?

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:19 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:43:09AM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > >   
> > >   Guys,
> > > 
> > >   I've going to give away what I think could be at least a
> > >   multi-thousand dollar idea, something we nearly have already.
> > >   And a wish-list for a program that does not, AFAIK, exist.
> > 
> > Its called iTunes.
> > 
> > >   First, the wish-for:: given all the kinds of video and audio
> > >   programs that are now on the web, how difficult would it be
> > >   to have a GUI [interface] program pop up a screen with date of
> > >   airing, and/or date of podcast?  Not to exceed several hours
> > >   worth of recorded podcasts... or live recording.
> > 
> > iTunes will suck them down and has settings for when (if ever) to delete
> > old podcasts.
> > 
> > >   I can only give examples of thing I watch, but this will give
> > >   you some idea.  And bear in mind that at least FreeBSD cannot
> > >   capture some programs.  Like "FRONTLINE" on PBS.
> > > 
> > >   But for the sake of argument, let's say that firefox or
> > >   whatever browser or kmplayer or another player did have the
> > >   proper codecs.
> > > 
> > >   This GUI app  would find, fetch, and store in /usr/local/tmp
> > >   FRONTLINE, NOVA, "In Our Time" and "Everyday Ethics" [BBC],
> > >   and "Marketplace", Weekend, 10jan09.  
> > 
> > iTunes stores in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Podcasts/
> 
> 
>   Music/audio only, or video too?
> 
> 
> > 
> > >   When these programs were safely in /usr/local/tmp/Pods, the
> > >   program would send mail or otherwise inform the user.
> > 
> > Script from cron to detect presence of a new file in the above, send
> > notification.
> > 
> > There are FreeBSD ports for subscribing to podcasts that could do the
> > same thing.
> > 
> > >   How doable is this...?  and, yes, i know that many of these
> > >   audio files can be subscribed to as podcasts.  I have several
> > >   on my Google page.  
> > 
> > Get A Mac!
> > 
>   
>   Ha!  Well, I stand to inherit my daughter's MacBook in a
>   few years.  Okay, so if Apple has this, can I use it?  I
>   mean for-free, not having to sub to some monthly deal or
>   whatever?
> 
>   This is an idea I thought up a couple years ago when all
>   the audio podcasts began appearing.  At any rate, seems to
>   me that the open-* community could do at least as well as
>   our brother hackers at Apple.
> 
>   Just a thought.  
> 
>   Come Monday, OZ-time, I'll let everybody know my major
>   idea.  
> 

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[Fwd: Re: programs...]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock

--- Begin Message ---
What about Miro?

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 23:19 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:43:09AM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > >   
> > >   Guys,
> > > 
> > >   I've going to give away what I think could be at least a
> > >   multi-thousand dollar idea, something we nearly have already.
> > >   And a wish-list for a program that does not, AFAIK, exist.
> > 
> > Its called iTunes.
> > 
> > >   First, the wish-for:: given all the kinds of video and audio
> > >   programs that are now on the web, how difficult would it be
> > >   to have a GUI [interface] program pop up a screen with date of
> > >   airing, and/or date of podcast?  Not to exceed several hours
> > >   worth of recorded podcasts... or live recording.
> > 
> > iTunes will suck them down and has settings for when (if ever) to delete
> > old podcasts.
> > 
> > >   I can only give examples of thing I watch, but this will give
> > >   you some idea.  And bear in mind that at least FreeBSD cannot
> > >   capture some programs.  Like "FRONTLINE" on PBS.
> > > 
> > >   But for the sake of argument, let's say that firefox or
> > >   whatever browser or kmplayer or another player did have the
> > >   proper codecs.
> > > 
> > >   This GUI app  would find, fetch, and store in /usr/local/tmp
> > >   FRONTLINE, NOVA, "In Our Time" and "Everyday Ethics" [BBC],
> > >   and "Marketplace", Weekend, 10jan09.  
> > 
> > iTunes stores in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Podcasts/
> 
> 
>   Music/audio only, or video too?
> 
> 
> > 
> > >   When these programs were safely in /usr/local/tmp/Pods, the
> > >   program would send mail or otherwise inform the user.
> > 
> > Script from cron to detect presence of a new file in the above, send
> > notification.
> > 
> > There are FreeBSD ports for subscribing to podcasts that could do the
> > same thing.
> > 
> > >   How doable is this...?  and, yes, i know that many of these
> > >   audio files can be subscribed to as podcasts.  I have several
> > >   on my Google page.  
> > 
> > Get A Mac!
> > 
>   
>   Ha!  Well, I stand to inherit my daughter's MacBook in a
>   few years.  Okay, so if Apple has this, can I use it?  I
>   mean for-free, not having to sub to some monthly deal or
>   whatever?
> 
>   This is an idea I thought up a couple years ago when all
>   the audio podcasts began appearing.  At any rate, seems to
>   me that the open-* community could do at least as well as
>   our brother hackers at Apple.
> 
>   Just a thought.  
> 
>   Come Monday, OZ-time, I'll let everybody know my major
>   idea.  
> 
--- End Message ---
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Re: programs...

2009-01-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:43:09AM -0600, David Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> > 
> > Guys,
> > 
> > I've going to give away what I think could be at least a
> > multi-thousand dollar idea, something we nearly have already.
> > And a wish-list for a program that does not, AFAIK, exist.
> 
> Its called iTunes.
> 
> > First, the wish-for:: given all the kinds of video and audio
> > programs that are now on the web, how difficult would it be
> > to have a GUI [interface] program pop up a screen with date of
> > airing, and/or date of podcast?  Not to exceed several hours
> > worth of recorded podcasts... or live recording.
> 
> iTunes will suck them down and has settings for when (if ever) to delete
> old podcasts.
> 
> > I can only give examples of thing I watch, but this will give
> > you some idea.  And bear in mind that at least FreeBSD cannot
> > capture some programs.  Like "FRONTLINE" on PBS.
> > 
> > But for the sake of argument, let's say that firefox or
> > whatever browser or kmplayer or another player did have the
> > proper codecs.
> > 
> > This GUI app  would find, fetch, and store in /usr/local/tmp
> > FRONTLINE, NOVA, "In Our Time" and "Everyday Ethics" [BBC],
> > and "Marketplace", Weekend, 10jan09.  
> 
> iTunes stores in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Podcasts/


Music/audio only, or video too?


> 
> > When these programs were safely in /usr/local/tmp/Pods, the
> > program would send mail or otherwise inform the user.
> 
> Script from cron to detect presence of a new file in the above, send
> notification.
> 
> There are FreeBSD ports for subscribing to podcasts that could do the
> same thing.
> 
> > How doable is this...?  and, yes, i know that many of these
> > audio files can be subscribed to as podcasts.  I have several
> > on my Google page.  
> 
> Get A Mac!
> 

Ha!  Well, I stand to inherit my daughter's MacBook in a
few years.  Okay, so if Apple has this, can I use it?  I
mean for-free, not having to sub to some monthly deal or
whatever?

This is an idea I thought up a couple years ago when all
the audio podcasts began appearing.  At any rate, seems to
me that the open-* community could do at least as well as
our brother hackers at Apple.

Just a thought.  

Come Monday, OZ-time, I'll let everybody know my major
idea.  

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http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org
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Re: programs...

2009-01-09 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:03:29PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
>   
>   Guys,
> 
>   I've going to give away what I think could be at least a
>   multi-thousand dollar idea, something we nearly have already.
>   And a wish-list for a program that does not, AFAIK, exist.

Its called iTunes.

>   First, the wish-for:: given all the kinds of video and audio
>   programs that are now on the web, how difficult would it be
>   to have a GUI [interface] program pop up a screen with date of
>   airing, and/or date of podcast?  Not to exceed several hours
>   worth of recorded podcasts... or live recording.

iTunes will suck them down and has settings for when (if ever) to delete
old podcasts.

>   I can only give examples of thing I watch, but this will give
>   you some idea.  And bear in mind that at least FreeBSD cannot
>   capture some programs.  Like "FRONTLINE" on PBS.
> 
>   But for the sake of argument, let's say that firefox or
>   whatever browser or kmplayer or another player did have the
>   proper codecs.
> 
>   This GUI app  would find, fetch, and store in /usr/local/tmp
>   FRONTLINE, NOVA, "In Our Time" and "Everyday Ethics" [BBC],
>   and "Marketplace", Weekend, 10jan09.  

iTunes stores in ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music/Podcasts/

>   When these programs were safely in /usr/local/tmp/Pods, the
>   program would send mail or otherwise inform the user.

Script from cron to detect presence of a new file in the above, send
notification.

There are FreeBSD ports for subscribing to podcasts that could do the
same thing.

>   How doable is this...?  and, yes, i know that many of these
>   audio files can be subscribed to as podcasts.  I have several
>   on my Google page.  

Get A Mac!

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Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
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Re: Programs don't free memory

2006-01-07 Thread JK

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:51:09 +0200
 Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2006-01-07 20:51, Nguyen Danh Hieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Hi everybody
  Sorry for my bad English but I have a question.I have 512Mb memory 
on my
PC but as I realize at starting my system have about 100Mb active 
memory,
but when the system have worked for a while there is no free memory 
on my
system ( about 350Mb inactive) As I understand this means some 
programs (
like kdeinit) don't want to free memory after workes. Is this true? 
How can

I fix th??s problem out?


"free memory is memory wasted".

For a better, more lengthy and more detailed explanation of this, 
please
see the excellent article of Matt Dillon that describes ``virtual 
memory''

and how it works in FreeBSD:


LOL

I've we've always said

''virtual memory is free memory!''   ;-)


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Re: Programs don't free memory

2006-01-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-07 20:51, Nguyen Danh Hieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Hi everybody
>   Sorry for my bad English but I have a question.I have 512Mb memory on my
> PC but as I realize at starting my system have about 100Mb active memory,
> but when the system have worked for a while there is no free memory on my
> system ( about 350Mb inactive) As I understand this means some programs (
> like kdeinit) don't want to free memory after workes. Is this true? How can
> I fix th??s problem out?

"free memory is memory wasted".

For a better, more lengthy and more detailed explanation of this, please
see the excellent article of Matt Dillon that describes ``virtual memory''
and how it works in FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/

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Re: Programs and lib's disappearing, FreeBSD 5.4

2005-07-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 03:44:19PM +1200, Nick Larsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I love FreeBSD, but lately I've found in version 5.4-RELEASE every so
> often I won't be able to run a program as it depends on a library
> (which used to be there).
> 
> Eg: today i tried to access my webserver...Failed... So I SSH'd into
> the box and ran
> # apachectl start
> 
> It complained that it couldn't find libsasl2.so.2 which was needed by
> modules/libphp4.so, but my web server had been working fine other
> days, with absolutely no changes.
> I fixed this problem, and then it couldnt find some *expat*.so.5 file,
> which i then created sym links in /lib and /usr/lib (as it resides in
> /usr/local/lib)

This was the wrong solution.

> Later on today, I tried to sudo a command, and got...
> bash: sudo: command not found
> 
> I had to reinstall sudo.
> 
> I'm extremely cofused, and have checked auth.log (My passwords are
> quite difficult to crack as they have no meaning).

Either you had/still have some serious disk corruption (drop to
single-user mode and run fsck -f), or someone (e.g. another admin, or
you in a moment of forgetfulness) did some deleting or a misdirected
portupgrade session.

Kris


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