Re: Xterm options for correct man page display?
On Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 09:09:13AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming > > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would > > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > > > > > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I > > > > experimented with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font > > > > allowed unicode charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it > > > > works great. I also changed my pager option in the shell start up file > > > > to less as opposed to more, and set lesscharset environment variable, > > > > man pages display fine now for me. > > > > > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > > > > > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource > > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. > > > > For example > > > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts > > Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display > utf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default > font is very small, too small for my eyes. > > I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried > don't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little > frustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provided > doesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resource > settings you have used? Well - the default size is a compromise (there are people who apparently use the smallest size regularly - looking at urxvt out-of-the-box, it's true there)(*). I generally use the font-size switching feature which I adapted from rxvt (one of the features which was omitted in urxvt), and switch to one of the two largest sizes using shift-keypad-plus. There are differences in the default fonts' coverage for CJK fonts, but between those two sizes I can see almost all characters. > I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different > resource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a > problem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I > mentioned. I haven't noticed a problem (with uxterm) for Russian characters - more info might help. > I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb > /etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem > displaying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly none > the less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. (*) the default size when switching to TrueType fonts is roughly what I use normally for the bitmap fonts (much larger than the default), and I should have made it consistent. It's configurable, and I later added a note in the manpage explaining how to do this... The default font for xterm has "always" been the "fixed" font, which as noted above I find too small for normal use. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpYK34OzfQUd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xterm options for correct man page display?
[ Thomas Dickey wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 7:32:00 -0400 ] > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > > > > > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming > > > > out a bit garbled. > > > > > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would > > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > > > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimented > > > with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode > > > charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also > > > changed my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to > > > more, and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine > > > now for me. > > > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > > > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource > > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. > > For example > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts Hi Thomas - is understand what your saying about uxterm - it does display utf8 fonts correctly when leaving the font resource alone, but the default font is very small, too small for my eyes. I installed a large number of utf8 supported X fonts, the ones I've tried don't display Chinese or Korean, or Russian fonts etc. It became a little frustrating which made me change to another terminal. The link you provided doesn't appear to be active. Would you be kind enough to show the resource settings you have used? I spent a long time reading through the man page and trying out different resource settings and combinations of them, European fonts were never a problem, just the east Asian characters and Russian characters as I mentioned. I've set my locale to en_GB.UTF-8 using /etc/login.conf and then cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. As I said in my previous email, urxvt has no problem displaying these characters but I'd like to get uxterm working properly none the less, as I'm sure the OP does as well. Best wishes, Jamie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Xterm options for correct man page display?
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming > > out a bit garbled. > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimented with > fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode charaters to > display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also changed my pager > option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to more, and set > lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for me. For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgp7olkEfKQJo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xterm options for correct man page display?
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 07:31:07AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > [ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > > > > > > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming > > > out a bit garbled. > > > > > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > > > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would > > > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. > > > > It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimented > > with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode > > charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also > > changed my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to > > more, and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now > > for me. > > For people using UTF-8, the uxterm script works out of the box... > > The usual problem with fonts is from overwriting the utf8Fonts resource > setting via a too-wide "fonts" wildcard pattern. For example http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html#utf8_fonts -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgp8Yoa4tvIpJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xterm options for correct man page display?
[ Ronald F. Guilmette wrote on Sat 6.Oct'12 at 2:25:04 -0700 ] > > When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming > out a bit garbled. > > I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for > xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would > tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. It will most likely be due to your locale settings. Also, I experimented with fonts in xterm and uxterm, only the default font allowed unicode charaters to display, so I am now using urxvt and it works great. I also changed my pager option in the shell start up file to less as opposed to more, and set lesscharset environment variable, man pages display fine now for me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Xterm options for correct man page display?
When I view man pages in a xterm window, some parts of them are coming out a bit garbled. I'm sure that there must be some recommended option or options for xterm that will cause man pages to display properly. If someone would tell me what those options are, I would appreciate it. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
