Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-16 Thread hoe-waa
ALoha Malcolm
I apologize, I should of answered yesterday.


- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

> On Saturday 15 May 2004 12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > -
> >
> > > On Saturday 15 May 2004 08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Aloha Again
> > > >
> > > > Okay, I had some time and since I had just installed 
> Slackware, I
> > >
> > > didn't> mind blowing it away.
> > >
> > > > Using cfdisk from the Slackware CD, I re-partitioned  slices 3
> > >
> > > and up. I
> > >
> > > > now have a fat32 3Gig slice in primary partition/slice ad0s3. I
> > >
> > > then have
> > >
> > > > four 12 Gig slices (5 - 8) set up as linux partitions. Finally
> > >
> > > slice 9
> > >
> > > > (ad0s9/hda9) is linux swap.
> > >
> > > Do you still have Fat32 in slice 1?
> > >
> > > It is my impression that MS will not allow more than 1 MS primary
> > > slice. It
> > > will force 2nd and subsequent MS file systems into extended
> > > partitions. Of
> > > course if you created "and formatted" the slice outside of MS then
> > > the
> > > comment is irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Posting the output of fdisk (on FreeBSD) might help.
> > >
> > > Malcolm
> >
> > Aloha Malcolm
> >
> > Thanks for responding. Here is the output of fdisk when ran from 
> FBSD:> frankie# fdisk
> > *** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
> > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
> > cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
> >
> > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
> > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
> > cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
> >
> > Media sector size is 512
> > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
> > Information from DOS bootblock is:
> > The data for partition 1 is:
> > sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
> > start 63, size 10249407 (5004 Meg), flag 0
> > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
> > end: cyl 637/ head 254/ sector 63
> > The data for partition 2 is:
> > sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
> > start 10249470, size 40949685 (19994 Meg), flag 80 (active)
> > beg: cyl 638/ head 0/ sector 1;
> > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> > The data for partition 3 is:
> > sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA))
> > start 51199155, size 5863725 (2863 Meg), flag 0
> > beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> > The data for partition 4 is:
> > sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS)
> > start 57062880, size 99233505 (48453 Meg), flag 0
> > beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> > end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> > frankie#
> > As you can see, I still have 98SE on partition 1 and partition 3 
> shows as
> > fat32. Slackware was re-installed and is working on P-8 with 
> linux-swap 0n
> > P-9.
> >
> > Is this weird that I cannot mount ad0s3?
> >
> 
> OK, this has moved beyond my ken; but it has aroused my curiosity.
> 
> What is the precise message when trying to mount ad0s3?
> 

$ su
Password:
frankie# mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s3 /shared
mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s3: Invalid argument
frankie#

> You do have a device /dev/ad0s3 revealed by ls?
> 

Yes

frankie# ls -l /dev/ad*
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  10 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  11 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  12 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s2
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  16 May 14 02:54 /dev/ad0s2a
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  17 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s2b
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  18 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s2c
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  19 May 14 02:54 /dev/ad0s2d
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  20 May 14 02:54 /dev/ad0s2e
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  21 May 14 02:54 /dev/ad0s2f
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  13 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s3
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  14 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s4
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  22 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s5
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  23 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s6
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  24 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s7
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  25 May 14 12:54 /dev/ad0s8
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  26 May 14 12:5

Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-15 Thread hoe-waa


- Original Message -
From: Mark Ovens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2004 2:18 am
Subject: Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

Aloha Mark and thanks for responding. I'm sorry I wasn't able to get back to you 
sooner. I was in Kawaihae paddling in and outrigger canoe race. Alas, we didn't do 
very well. But, there's always next week.

> Malcolm Kay wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday 15 May 2004 12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> Here is the output of fdisk when ran from FBSD:
> >> frankie# fdisk
> >> *** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
> >> parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
> >> cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
> >>
> >> Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
> >> parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
> >> cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
> >>
> >> Media sector size is 512
> >> Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
> >> Information from DOS bootblock is:
> >> The data for partition 1 is:
> >> sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
> >> start 63, size 10249407 (5004 Meg), flag 0
> >> beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
> >> end: cyl 637/ head 254/ sector 63
> >> The data for partition 2 is:
> >> sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
> >> start 10249470, size 40949685 (19994 Meg), flag 80 (active)
> >> beg: cyl 638/ head 0/ sector 1;
> >> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> >> The data for partition 3 is:
> >> sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA))
> >> start 51199155, size 5863725 (2863 Meg), flag 0
> >> beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> >> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> >> The data for partition 4 is:
> >> sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS)
> >> start 57062880, size 99233505 (48453 Meg), flag 0
> >> beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> >> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> >> frankie#
> >> As you can see, I still have 98SE on partition 1 and partition 3 
> shows as
> >> fat32. Slackware was re-installed and is working on P-8 with 
> linux-swap 0n
> >> P-9.
> >>
> >> Is this weird that I cannot mount ad0s3?
> >>
> > 
> > Does someone out there know the significance of "sysid 12" versus 
> "sysid 11"?
> > 
> 
> According to the fdisk output sysid 11 is
>  DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT
> and sysid 12 is
>  DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)
> 
> The difference is LBA although I thought that if you needed to use 
> LBA 
> then the _whole disk_ was LBA but since slice 3 is visible in Win98 
> I 
> guess it's correct (probably just a case of FreeBSD reporting 
> _accurately_ what's on the disk).
> 
> It's a few years since I messed with FAT so I may not have 
> remembered 
> this correctly, but originally DOS could only support a single 
> _active_ 
> primary partition (which is why extended was invented). Somewhere 
> in the 
> Win9x line that changed; the OS still had to be on the first 
> primary 
> partition but other primary partitions were visible in the OS.
> 
> The OP says that Win98 can see /dev/ados3 and write to it but, if 
> you 
> look at the fdisk output only slice 1 is flagged 'active'.
> 
> The last time I had a machine with multiple OSes (Win98, W2K, and 
> FreeBSD) I used BootMagic that comes with PartitionMagic which had 
> a 
> config option to choose which partitions/slices each OS could see. 
> With 
> FreeBSD the default setting hid _all_ the FAT & NTFS slices (I got 
> the 
> same problem you have) so I had to change the settings. The first 
> one or 
> two bytes in each entry in the partition table determine whether 
> the 
> partition is 'active' (i.e. the one that is booted from) but also 
> whether the partition is visible or hidden. When you choose an OS 
> from 
> BM's menu it edits the PT "on the fly" (which will set the BIOS 
> boot 
> sector anit-virus alarm off if it's enabled) and then continues the 
> boot 
> process.
> 
> IIRC Win9x can see adso3 (in this case) by simply ignoring the 
> visible 
> flag, i.e. a kludge, in typical MS fashion.
> 
> As to how to resolve it, if you are really brave you can edit the 
> partition table flags directly but the changes may not hold (I have 
> a 
> feeling that Win98 may "fix" them next time yo

Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-15 Thread Mark Ovens
Malcolm Kay wrote:
On Saturday 15 May 2004 12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the output of fdisk when ran from FBSD:
frankie# fdisk
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
start 63, size 10249407 (5004 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 637/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 10249470, size 40949685 (19994 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 638/ head 0/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA))
start 51199155, size 5863725 (2863 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS)
start 57062880, size 99233505 (48453 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
frankie#
As you can see, I still have 98SE on partition 1 and partition 3 shows as
fat32. Slackware was re-installed and is working on P-8 with linux-swap 0n
P-9.
Is this weird that I cannot mount ad0s3?
Does someone out there know the significance of "sysid 12" versus "sysid 11"?
According to the fdisk output sysid 11 is
 DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT
and sysid 12 is
 DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)
The difference is LBA although I thought that if you needed to use LBA 
then the _whole disk_ was LBA but since slice 3 is visible in Win98 I 
guess it's correct (probably just a case of FreeBSD reporting 
_accurately_ what's on the disk).

It's a few years since I messed with FAT so I may not have remembered 
this correctly, but originally DOS could only support a single _active_ 
primary partition (which is why extended was invented). Somewhere in the 
Win9x line that changed; the OS still had to be on the first primary 
partition but other primary partitions were visible in the OS.

The OP says that Win98 can see /dev/ados3 and write to it but, if you 
look at the fdisk output only slice 1 is flagged 'active'.

The last time I had a machine with multiple OSes (Win98, W2K, and 
FreeBSD) I used BootMagic that comes with PartitionMagic which had a 
config option to choose which partitions/slices each OS could see. With 
FreeBSD the default setting hid _all_ the FAT & NTFS slices (I got the 
same problem you have) so I had to change the settings. The first one or 
two bytes in each entry in the partition table determine whether the 
partition is 'active' (i.e. the one that is booted from) but also 
whether the partition is visible or hidden. When you choose an OS from 
BM's menu it edits the PT "on the fly" (which will set the BIOS boot 
sector anit-virus alarm off if it's enabled) and then continues the boot 
process.

IIRC Win9x can see adso3 (in this case) by simply ignoring the visible 
flag, i.e. a kludge, in typical MS fashion.

As to how to resolve it, if you are really brave you can edit the 
partition table flags directly but the changes may not hold (I have a 
feeling that Win98 may "fix" them next time you boot Win98) or install a 
boot manager like BM that allows you to set the visibility.

If you run this
# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/tmp/foo bs=512 count=1
# hd /tmp/foo > /tmp/foo.hd
and post the last 6 lines of foo.hd it will help identify which byte is 
set wrong; I've a load of notes here about partition tables so I'll dig 
them out.

HTH
Regards,
Mark
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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Saturday 15 May 2004 12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> -
>
> > On Saturday 15 May 2004 08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Aloha Again
> > >
> > > Okay, I had some time and since I had just installed Slackware, I
> >
> > didn't> mind blowing it away.
> >
> > > Using cfdisk from the Slackware CD, I re-partitioned  slices 3
> >
> > and up. I
> >
> > > now have a fat32 3Gig slice in primary partition/slice ad0s3. I
> >
> > then have
> >
> > > four 12 Gig slices (5 - 8) set up as linux partitions. Finally
> >
> > slice 9
> >
> > > (ad0s9/hda9) is linux swap.
> >
> > Do you still have Fat32 in slice 1?
> >
> > It is my impression that MS will not allow more than 1 MS primary
> > slice. It
> > will force 2nd and subsequent MS file systems into extended
> > partitions. Of
> > course if you created "and formatted" the slice outside of MS then
> > the
> > comment is irrelevant.
> >
> > Posting the output of fdisk (on FreeBSD) might help.
> >
> > Malcolm
>
> Aloha Malcolm
>
> Thanks for responding. Here is the output of fdisk when ran from FBSD:
> frankie# fdisk
> *** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
> parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
> cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
>
> Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
> parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
> cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)
>
> Media sector size is 512
> Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
> Information from DOS bootblock is:
> The data for partition 1 is:
> sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
> start 63, size 10249407 (5004 Meg), flag 0
> beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
> end: cyl 637/ head 254/ sector 63
> The data for partition 2 is:
> sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
> start 10249470, size 40949685 (19994 Meg), flag 80 (active)
> beg: cyl 638/ head 0/ sector 1;
> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> The data for partition 3 is:
> sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA))
> start 51199155, size 5863725 (2863 Meg), flag 0
> beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> The data for partition 4 is:
> sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS)
> start 57062880, size 99233505 (48453 Meg), flag 0
> beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
> end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
> frankie#
> As you can see, I still have 98SE on partition 1 and partition 3 shows as
> fat32. Slackware was re-installed and is working on P-8 with linux-swap 0n
> P-9.
>
> Is this weird that I cannot mount ad0s3?
>

OK, this has moved beyond my ken; but it has aroused my curiosity.

What is the precise message when trying to mount ad0s3?

You do have a device /dev/ad0s3 revealed by ls?

Can you mount slice3 under slackware?

You say MS reports the slice as FAT32, but has it actually been formatted?
Can you write to it?

Have you tried mounting the Slackware slice under FreeBSD?

Does someone out there know the significance of "sysid 12" versus "sysid 11"?

I incidently I've found you can see inside an extended partition by targeting 
the extended partition/slice with fdisk instead of the entire physical disk.
(Which is probably quite irrelenent to your problem.)

Malcolm

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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-14 Thread hoe-waa


-

> On Saturday 15 May 2004 08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Aloha Again
> >
> > Okay, I had some time and since I had just installed Slackware, I 
> didn't> mind blowing it away.
> >
> > Using cfdisk from the Slackware CD, I re-partitioned  slices 3 
> and up. I
> > now have a fat32 3Gig slice in primary partition/slice ad0s3. I 
> then have
> > four 12 Gig slices (5 - 8) set up as linux partitions. Finally 
> slice 9
> > (ad0s9/hda9) is linux swap.
> >
> 
> Do you still have Fat32 in slice 1?
> 
> It is my impression that MS will not allow more than 1 MS primary 
> slice. It
> will force 2nd and subsequent MS file systems into extended 
> partitions. Of 
> course if you created "and formatted" the slice outside of MS then 
> the 
> comment is irrelevant.
> 
> Posting the output of fdisk (on FreeBSD) might help.
> 
> Malcolm
> 
Aloha Malcolm

Thanks for responding. Here is the output of fdisk when ran from FBSD:
frankie# fdisk
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 11 (0x0b),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT)
start 63, size 10249407 (5004 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 637/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 10249470, size 40949685 (19994 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 638/ head 0/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 12 (0x0c),(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA))
start 51199155, size 5863725 (2863 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 5 (0x05),(Extended DOS)
start 57062880, size 99233505 (48453 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63;
end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
frankie#
As you can see, I still have 98SE on partition 1 and partition 3 shows as fat32. 
Slackware was re-installed and is working on P-8 with linux-swap 0n P-9.

Is this weird that I cannot mount ad0s3?

Robert
 

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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Saturday 15 May 2004 08:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aloha Again
>
> Okay, I had some time and since I had just installed Slackware, I didn't
> mind blowing it away.
>
> Using cfdisk from the Slackware CD, I re-partitioned  slices 3 and up. I
> now have a fat32 3Gig slice in primary partition/slice ad0s3. I then have
> four 12 Gig slices (5 - 8) set up as linux partitions. Finally slice 9
> (ad0s9/hda9) is linux swap.
>

Do you still have Fat32 in slice 1?

It is my impression that MS will not allow more than 1 MS primary slice. It
will force 2nd and subsequent MS file systems into extended partitions. Of 
course if you created "and formatted" the slice outside of MS then the 
comment is irrelevant.

Posting the output of fdisk (on FreeBSD) might help.

Malcolm


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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-14 Thread hoe-waa
Aloha Again

Okay, I had some time and since I had just installed Slackware, I didn't mind blowing 
it away.

Using cfdisk from the Slackware CD, I re-partitioned  slices 3 and up. I now have a 
fat32 3Gig slice in primary partition/slice ad0s3. I then have four 12 Gig slices (5 - 
8) set up as linux partitions. Finally slice 9 (ad0s9/hda9) is linux swap.

I still have the same error when trying to "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s3 /shared" or 
"mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s3 /shared"

I know it is seen as a fat32 partition in Win98 because I format it and run scandisk 
on it and can write to it.

So, I don't think the problem was a primary/logical partition problem. I need to swap 
data between the OS's and this should be the easiest way.:)

Robert



> > 
> > Aloha
> > I first used a win98 boot disk to set slice 1(partition 1) a 5 
> Gig for 
> > my win98 slice. After installing win98, I used the freebsd 5.2.1 
> CD to 
> > set up the freebsd slice 2 at 20 Gig. 
> 
> OK.  I haven't had time (or a spare machine) to play with 5.xxx 
> yet.

I have a spare frankenputer if you can get to Kona, I'll loan it to you :)
  
> 
> > After installing freebsd I used Slackware 9.1 CD and the cfdisk 
> program 
> > on it to partition the rest of the disk. Slice/partition3 is a 
> primary. 
> > Slice 4 is extended with logical slices/partitions 5 through 10. 
> I 
> > installed Slackware on slice 8 with a linux swap on slice 9 and a 
> 2.7Gig 
> > fat32 on slice 10.
> 
> Well, that (using Slackware and being logical partitions within
> an extended ) explains some things about how you got those slices. 
> 
> I believe FreeBSD is quite limited in its ability to talk to 
> MS extended partitions.
> 
> > 


> > > > >> 
> > > > >> When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs 
> /dev/ad0s10> > > >> /shared" I get the following error:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I 
> have a


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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-13 Thread Robert Storey
On my system I have several Linux distros installed in the extended partition,
and FBSD 5.2 shows slices as high as /dev/ad0s9. I am able to mount all of these
with mount_ext2fs. Whether or not it is possible to mount msdos extended
partitions, I can't say, since I don't have any installed on my hard drive.

regards,
RS

On Thu, 13 May 2004 09:39:23 -0400 (EDT)
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 
> > Aloha
> > 
> > I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple distros of
> > linux and freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd on slice 2. On slice
> > 10 I have a 2.7 Gig slice formatted as fat32 for data sharing between all
> > distros.
> > 
> > When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with
> > "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.
> > 
> > When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10 /shared" I
> > get the following error:
> > 
> > mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.
> > 
> > Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a text file
> > and two jpeg photos in the slice. 
> > 
> 
> Only 4 primary slices are recognized.   FreeBSD will not talk to a slice 10
> and I don't think anything MS will either in a standard manner.  That is
> why they came up with extended partitions.   What did you use to create the 
> extra slices?
> 
> jerry
> 
> > Any help will be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Aloha
> I first used a win98 boot disk to set slice 1(partition 1) a 5 Gig for 
> my win98 slice. After installing win98, I used the freebsd 5.2.1 CD to 
> set up the freebsd slice 2 at 20 Gig. 

OK.  I haven't had time (or a spare machine) to play with 5.xxx yet.  

> After installing freebsd I used Slackware 9.1 CD and the cfdisk program 
> on it to partition the rest of the disk. Slice/partition3 is a primary. 
> Slice 4 is extended with logical slices/partitions 5 through 10. I 
> installed Slackware on slice 8 with a linux swap on slice 9 and a 2.7Gig 
> fat32 on slice 10.

Well, that (using Slackware and being logical partitions within
an extended ) explains some things about how you got those slices. 

I believe FreeBSD is quite limited in its ability to talk to 
MS extended partitions.

> 
> Here is the output of ls -l /dev/ad*

First time I have seen slice numbers that high.  But, since they
are special, I am not sure it mean anything.  Hopefully someone
else will know more about that.

jerry

> $ ls -l /dev/ad*
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  10 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  11 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s1
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  27 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s10
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  12 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s2
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  16 May 12 23:10 /dev/ad0s2a
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  17 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s2b
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  18 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s2c
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  19 May 12 23:10 /dev/ad0s2d
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  20 May 12 23:10 /dev/ad0s2e
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  21 May 12 23:10 /dev/ad0s2f
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  13 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s3
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  14 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s4
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  22 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s5
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  23 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s6
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  24 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s7
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  25 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s8
> crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  26 May 13 09:10 /dev/ad0s9
> 
> It shows ad0s10 but I'm not sure that it can be mounted. Has anyone ever done it?
> 
> Thanks for all of the responses.
> Robert
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2004 4:02 am
> Subject: Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly
> 
> > > 
> > > Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > >> Aloha
> > > >> 
> > > >> I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple
> > > >> distros of linux and freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd
> > > >> on slice 2. On slice 10 I have a 2.7 Gig slice formatted as fat32
> > > >> for data sharing between all distros.
> > > >> 
> > > >> When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with
> > > >> "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.
> > > >> 
> > > >> When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10
> > > >> /shared" I get the following error:
> > > >> 
> > > >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a
> > > >> text file and two jpeg photos in the slice.
> > > >> 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Only 4 primary slices are recognized.   FreeBSD will not talk 
> > to a
> > > > slice 10 and I don't think anything MS will either in a standard
> > > > manner.  That is why they came up with extended partitions.   What
> > > > did you use to create the extra slices?
> > > > 
> > > > jerry
> > > 
> > > Isn't ad?s5 and up used for the extended partitions? Which 
> > devices show 
> > > up in /dev ?
> > 
> > Well, I have never messed with MS extended "partitions" so I don't 
> > really know much details.   My /dev only goes up to s4 for either 
> > ad or da.
> > But, I am not surprised if mount_msdosfs thinks /dev/ad0s10 is not 
> > valid.I suppose the person could try creating those devices in /dev 
> > and see
> > what falls down (or if it works).
> > 
> > jerr
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hendrik
> > > 
> > 
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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >> Aloha
> >> 
> >> I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple
> >> distros of linux and freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd
> >> on slice 2. On slice 10 I have a 2.7 Gig slice formatted as fat32
> >> for data sharing between all distros.
> >> 
> >> When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with
> >> "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.
> >> 
> >> When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10
> >> /shared" I get the following error:
> >> 
> >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.
> >> 
> >> Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a
> >> text file and two jpeg photos in the slice.
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > Only 4 primary slices are recognized.   FreeBSD will not talk to a
> > slice 10 and I don't think anything MS will either in a standard
> > manner.  That is why they came up with extended partitions.   What
> > did you use to create the extra slices?
> > 
> > jerry
> 
> Isn't ad?s5 and up used for the extended partitions? Which devices show 
> up in /dev ?

Well, I have never messed with MS extended "partitions" so I don't 
really know much details.   My /dev only goes up to s4 for either ad or da.
But, I am not surprised if mount_msdosfs thinks /dev/ad0s10 is not valid.
I suppose the person could try creating those devices in /dev and see
what falls down (or if it works).

jerr

> 
> Hendrik
> 

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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-13 Thread Hendrik Hasenbein
Jerry McAllister wrote:
Aloha

I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple
distros of linux and freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd
on slice 2. On slice 10 I have a 2.7 Gig slice formatted as fat32
for data sharing between all distros.
When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with
"mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.
When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10
/shared" I get the following error:
mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.

Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a
text file and two jpeg photos in the slice.


Only 4 primary slices are recognized.   FreeBSD will not talk to a
slice 10 and I don't think anything MS will either in a standard
manner.  That is why they came up with extended partitions.   What
did you use to create the extra slices?
jerry
Isn't ad?s5 and up used for the extended partitions? Which devices show 
up in /dev ?

Hendrik
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Re: mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Aloha
> 
> I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple distros of linux and 
> freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd on slice 2. On slice 10 I have a 2.7 
> Gig slice formatted as fat32 for data sharing between all distros.
> 
> When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with "mount_msdosfs 
> /dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.
> 
> When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10 /shared" I get the 
> following error:
> 
> mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.
> 
> Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a text file and two 
> jpeg photos in the slice. 
> 

Only 4 primary slices are recognized.   FreeBSD will not talk to a slice 10
and I don't think anything MS will either in a standard manner.  That is
why they came up with extended partitions.   What did you use to create the 
extra slices?

jerry

> Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Robert
> 
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mount_msdosfs anomaly

2004-05-12 Thread hoe-waa
Aloha

I have a 80 gig hard drive that I have sliced up for multiple distros of linux and 
freebsd. I have win98 on slice 1 and freebsd on slice 2. On slice 10 I have a 2.7 Gig 
slice formatted as fat32 for data sharing between all distros.

When logged into frebsd (5.2.1) i can mount the win98 slice with "mount_msdosfs 
/dev/ad0s1 /win98" without any trouble.

When I attempt to mount slice 10 with "mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s10 /shared" I get the 
following error:

mount_msdosfs: /dev/ad0s10: invalid argument.

Slice 10 was formatted in win98 and scan disk was run. I have a text file and two jpeg 
photos in the slice. 

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Robert

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