Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
Clifton Royston wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:39:35PM +, Chris wrote: On 28/02/2008, Krassimir Slavchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not understand. 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. ... Thus, never expect the adX devices to "start with 0". If you want adX devices to "start with 0" just remove 'options ATA_STATIC_ID' from the kernel config file but be very carefully if you change hardware! ... Ahh thats useful, on the occasions I have remotely installed freebsd over linux I have always failed due to incorrectly guessing the hd id and as such a wrong fstab, if I know it will always be ad0 and ad1 and so on it makes this much easier. And if you ever add a second drive, and it happens to be detected first, expect a lot of work getting things working again. There are good reasons for doing it this way, though you do get a choice. This is the fstab of my notebook: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# /dev/label/2swapnoneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ufs/2root / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ufs/2tmp /tmpufs rw,async2 2 /dev/ufs/2usr /usrufs rw 2 2 /dev/ufs/2var /varufs rw 2 2 I can take out the HD and boot from it via USB-adaptor or put it into another machine. It all doesn't matter, I don't care about device IDs at all. The geom label class has made life much easier. You only have to label the partitions with "tunefs -L" and the swap partition with "glabel label". ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:39:35PM +, Chris wrote: > On 28/02/2008, Krassimir Slavchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > >> I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier > > >> versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not > > >> understand. > > >> > > >> 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 > > >> and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. ... > > > Thus, never expect the adX devices to "start with 0". > > > > If you want adX devices to "start with 0" just remove 'options > > ATA_STATIC_ID' from the kernel config file but be very carefully if you > > change hardware! ... > Ahh thats useful, on the occasions I have remotely installed freebsd > over linux I have always failed due to incorrectly guessing the hd id > and as such a wrong fstab, if I know it will always be ad0 and ad1 and > so on it makes this much easier. And if you ever add a second drive, and it happens to be detected first, expect a lot of work getting things working again. There are good reasons for doing it this way, though you do get a choice. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Chris wrote: Ahh thats useful, on the occasions I have remotely installed freebsd over linux I have always failed due to incorrectly guessing the hd id and as such a wrong fstab, if I know it will always be ad0 and ad1 and so on it makes this much easier. I much prefer to use glabel for this purpose, when the hardware might change. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
On 28/02/2008, Krassimir Slavchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > >> I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier > >> versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not understand. > >> > >> 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 > >> and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. > > > > You shouldn't "expect" this in any way shape or form. The device > > numbers are not consistent, and are known to change depending upon lots > > of reasons (AHCI disabled/enabled, another ATA controller in place, SATA > > in "compatible" mode or "enhanced" mode, etc. etc.). > > > > Thus, never expect the adX devices to "start with 0". > > > > If you want adX devices to "start with 0" just remove 'options > ATA_STATIC_ID' from the kernel config file but be very carefully if you > change hardware! > > Best Regards > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFHxpH2xJBWvpalMpkRAtpzAJsHAkMtjVIHU6dmXTZJdn3mtTWtYwCfRl7x > a9dAr6mnbnORaksfDpJMu8w= > =jiUk > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ Ahh thats useful, on the occasions I have remotely installed freebsd over linux I have always failed due to incorrectly guessing the hd id and as such a wrong fstab, if I know it will always be ad0 and ad1 and so on it makes this much easier. Chris ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier >> versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not understand. >> >> 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 >> and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. > > You shouldn't "expect" this in any way shape or form. The device > numbers are not consistent, and are known to change depending upon lots > of reasons (AHCI disabled/enabled, another ATA controller in place, SATA > in "compatible" mode or "enhanced" mode, etc. etc.). > > Thus, never expect the adX devices to "start with 0". > If you want adX devices to "start with 0" just remove 'options ATA_STATIC_ID' from the kernel config file but be very carefully if you change hardware! Best Regards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHxpH2xJBWvpalMpkRAtpzAJsHAkMtjVIHU6dmXTZJdn3mtTWtYwCfRl7x a9dAr6mnbnORaksfDpJMu8w= =jiUk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier > versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not understand. > > 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 > and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. You shouldn't "expect" this in any way shape or form. The device numbers are not consistent, and are known to change depending upon lots of reasons (AHCI disabled/enabled, another ATA controller in place, SATA in "compatible" mode or "enhanced" mode, etc. etc.). Thus, never expect the adX devices to "start with 0". -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
FreeBSD 7.0 Questions
I have just installed 7.0 on some new hardware. Have never tried earlier versions. There are a couple of unexpected items that I do not understand. 1. When booting there are a few messages like: acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying When the system is booted off CD (like installation disk), it takes about 10 minutes after these messages first appear and then it finally starts up sysinstall properly. After the system is installed on disk, it reboots and just continues on past those messages with no delays. Sometimes those messages do not appear in dmesg.boot. Why are there long delays when booting from CD? 2. I have 2 SATA drives in the system. The first is recognized as ad10 and the second as ad12. I expected to see ad0 and ad1. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
