Re: [Freevo-users] Quality still sucks.
Just thought I'd thank all. I was able to greatly increase the quality. --- Bastian Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > afaik know the colour format doenst affect image > quality much only perfomance. > i would not capture directly to divx/mp3. sure it > saves space, but it uses > a lot of > cpu time. you could try using a higher bitrate like > 5000 or so. > > At 20:04 12.04.2004, you wrote: > >I'm using a Kworld 878RF-pro. yu2 does not work on > it. > >I was figuring my problem lies with the mencoder > >defaults. So you think I may need a better card? > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux > Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, > President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from > fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Blocky mencoder... on some channels.
OK, after doing searches, looking at faqs, and getting thoroughly perplexed, I must finally ask the list (apologies; seems like the sort of problem that's been addressed before). I'm using mencoder with a Hauppage WinTV board on an Athlon 1400 (or so) with 768MB ram. The quality of my recordings varies; almost all of them have two vertical visible wiggly lines down the middle of the screen... and while some channels are fairly clear (Food Network, of all things, comes through with about the same quality as a VHS VCR), some are execrable (Comedy Central is EXTREMELY blocky to the point where on-screen text is difficult if not impossible to read). Additionally, and this is less important (because we use an external tuner for live TV), watching TV via the freevo gets choppier and choppier as time goes on. Here's my VCR command line from local_conf.py (the aumix bit is in there because I was having difficulty with setting record levels; now that I've switched motherboards to ALSA, it's probably no longer needed): Any help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. I'm OK with 320x240 (not sure the hauppage can actually record at better--any ideas?), but the blockiness is really unacceptable. VCR_CMD = ('aumix -L -f /home/freevo/recording_aumixrc; ' + '/usr/bin/mencoder ' +# Change. Absolute path to the runtime '-tv driver=v4l:input=0' + # Input 0 = Comp. V. in ':norm=NTSC' + # Change # ':channel=%(channel)s' +# Filled in by Freevo ':chanlist=us-cable' + # Change ':width=320:height=240' + # Change if needed ':outfmt=yv12' +# Prob. ok, yuy2 might be faster ':device=/dev/video0' + # CHANGE! ':adevice=/dev/dsp' + # CHANGE! ':audiorate=32000' +# 44100 for better sound ':forceaudio:forcechan=1:' +# Forced mono for bug in my driver 'buffersize=64' + # 64 Megabyte capture buffer, change? ' tv://%(channel)s'+ ' -ovc lavc -lavcopts ' + # Mencoder lavcodec video codec 'vcodec=mpeg4' +# lavcodec mpeg-4 ':vbitrate=1200:' + # Change lower/higher, bitrate 'keyint=30 ' + # Keyframe every 10 secs, change? '-oac mp3lame -lameopts ' + # Use Lame for MP3 encoding 'br=128:cbr:mode=3 ' + # MP3 const. bitrate, 128 kbit/s '-ffourcc divx ' + # Force 'divx' ident, better compat. '-endpos %(seconds)s ' +# only mencoder uses this so do it here . '-o %(filename)s.avi ') # Filled in by Freevo -->VPutz signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Freevo-users] streaming idea
Ross Karchner wrote: I accomplished this in a very half-assed way-- I had Apache serving an index of my recordings folder. When I wanted to watch something on another computer on my network, I just copied the URL of the movie into Videolan Client (videolan.org) and the movies played just fine. i do the same using a samba share.. not very "stupidenduserfriendy" but it works great. you can also watch stuff that is being recorded at the same time (timeshift like)... a videolan server management plugin for freevo would be cool... then one could start streaming a program using the central tv set and then watch in thir own room or something... this would also work with live tv (tested it with my hauppuge 250)... Flo -Ross Bastian Farkas wrote: ok, its past 6am and i had an interesting idea. thats what i think :) i dont know if it was mentioned already, so i just write it down and post it to the list. i'd like to have the possibility to stream everything i recorded on-demand via the webinterface. so that i could check out my recordings in the whole house. currently i can only download them. and downloading 2gb or so is quite annoying just to check out if the recording succeeded, even with a 100mbit lan. i'd appreciate any comments regardless of what kind :) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] what is the mplayer command..
quick question.. Anyone know where to find the command freevo is using for *watching* tv? MPLAYER_DEBUG = 0 only add the mplayer output... Cheers, Mick --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1
For the record, This worked! Only, it needs to look like this: DEFAULT_REC_EXT = '.avi' Cheers, Mick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mick Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1 OK, I'll give that a go. Where did you find that setting? Mick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lars Michael Jogback Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1 > > My record command creates *.avi files, however the fxd file > being created > contacts the correct file name, but appends *.mpeg instead of *.avi > > Is anyone else experiencing this? What you will see (in > freevo tv display) > is 2 entries in your record dir, one with just the name, and > it will error > when trying to play, and the other with the full file name, > which doesn't > error but is a little more guff than I want on my screen.. > > Any game on suggesting a fix? There is a setting (in local_conf.py) called DEFAULT_REC_EXT In my setup, I have DEFAULT_REC_EXT = 'avi' works perfectly. Best Regards, /LM --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=ick ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
[Freevo-users] Dxr3 and emulators
Anyone every get xmame, zsnes, or any other emulator to work with dxr3? I am trying at the moment but all I get is sound and no picture. John Snowdon wrote: Does Freevo actually display ok? I got the dxr3 to work ok and films, freevo and recordings etc display fine but could I heck make it work with any SDL games!... they all complain about no video device or compatible video modes. John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist -==- Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing Dept School of Medical Education Development University of Newcastle -Original Message- From: r.van.der.veen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 22:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device I've tried setting up freevo with DXR3 support following the dxr3 wiki howto. Aplying the dxr3 SDL patch goes without any errors even configuring an compiling SDL afterwards goes without any errors. But stil I get the obove mesage. I'm runing debian both stable and unstable. Freevo with the adapted runtime package as described on the wiki dxr3 page. Also tried installing the install deps one by one and ran freevo and tried installing freevo from source. all results in the same error. On the unstable distro of debian i've even tried apt-get'ting freevo so I would get all dependencies, removed libSDL and compiled it myself. Nothing did get me to a solution. Even tried to export SDL_VIDEODEVICE=dxr3 But it didn't make a diverence. What am I doing wrong? Any help is welcome Ronald --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1
Mick, The setting was not advertised. It was a hack. The real code to do this automatically without having to set up anything has been delayed a little but until some new functionality for events has been added to the recordserver. it is expected to be in the real 1.5 release just not in there yet sorry. -- Mike Ruelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://world.std.com/~mruelle/ On Thu, 2004-04-15 at 05:31, Mick wrote: > OK, I'll give that a go. > > Where did you find that setting? > > Mick > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lars > Michael Jogback > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 1:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1 > > > > > > My record command creates *.avi files, however the fxd file > > being created > > contacts the correct file name, but appends *.mpeg instead of *.avi > > > > Is anyone else experiencing this? What you will see (in > > freevo tv display) > > is 2 entries in your record dir, one with just the name, and > > it will error > > when trying to play, and the other with the full file name, > > which doesn't > > error but is a little more guff than I want on my screen.. > > > > Any game on suggesting a fix? > > There is a setting (in local_conf.py) called DEFAULT_REC_EXT > > In my setup, I have DEFAULT_REC_EXT = 'avi' works perfectly. > > Best Regards, > /LM > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=ick > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > ___ > Freevo-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1
OK, I'll give that a go. Where did you find that setting? Mick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lars Michael Jogback Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Freevo-users] very strange recordserver issue on 1.5pre1 > > My record command creates *.avi files, however the fxd file > being created > contacts the correct file name, but appends *.mpeg instead of *.avi > > Is anyone else experiencing this? What you will see (in > freevo tv display) > is 2 entries in your record dir, one with just the name, and > it will error > when trying to play, and the other with the full file name, > which doesn't > error but is a little more guff than I want on my screen.. > > Any game on suggesting a fix? There is a setting (in local_conf.py) called DEFAULT_REC_EXT In my setup, I have DEFAULT_REC_EXT = 'avi' works perfectly. Best Regards, /LM --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=ick ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device
Gotcha I thought it was a pygame error appearing when xmame or something was being started... I now see its appearing when starting Freevo itself :-) I did initially have some trouble getting dxr/sdl working, I had to get a version of ffmpeg that was a slightly different version for the patches to apply cleanly. Still cant get it to work as an SDL display device (neither the dxr3 or SDL lists could help) for anything other than freevo or mplayer though; though it works great for both of those I think the error is something like 'unsupported vid_depth8 in vid_depth16' or something like that... its been a while since I looked. Just a thought about something that got me the first few times round... is the right libSDL being loaded, rather than any included one.. (runtime provided?) I copied the dxr3 version over the top of the freevo provided one for simplicity. John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist -==- Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing Dept School of Medical Education Development University of Newcastle >-Original Message- >From: Paul Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 15 April 2004 08:35 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available >video device > > >Hi John > >I think you're getting a bit confused with 'games' and >'pygame'. Pygame >is a set of python modules that allows you to create games or >other SDL >display things like menus. This is what Freevo uses to display >all it's >menus so without pygame working you wouldn't see Freevo at all. > >Paul > >John Snowdon wrote: > >>Does Freevo actually display ok? I got the dxr3 to work ok and films, >>freevo and recordings etc display fine but could I heck >make it work >>with any SDL games!... they all complain about no video device or >>compatible video modes. >> >> John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist >>-==- >> Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing Dept >> School of Medical Education Development >> University of Newcastle >> >> >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: r.van.der.veen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: 08 April 2004 22:25 >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device >>> >>> >>>I've tried setting up freevo with DXR3 support following the >dxr3 wiki >>>howto. Aplying the dxr3 SDL patch goes without any errors even >>>configuring an compiling SDL afterwards goes without any errors. But >>>stil I get the obove mesage. I'm runing debian both stable and >>>unstable. >>> >>>Freevo with the adapted runtime package as described on the >wiki dxr3 >>>page. Also tried installing the install deps one by one and >ran freevo >>>and tried installing freevo from source. all results in the >>>same error. >>>On the unstable distro of debian i've even tried apt-get'ting >>>freevo so >>>I would get all dependencies, removed libSDL and compiled it myself. >>>Nothing did get me to a solution. Even tried to export >>>SDL_VIDEODEVICE=dxr3 But it didn't make a diverence. >>> >>>What am I doing wrong? >>>Any help is welcome >>> >>>Ronald >>> >>> >>> >>>--- >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>>GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >>>administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >>>___ >>>Freevo-users mailing list >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>--- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >>Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >>GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >>administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk >>___ >>Freevo-users mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users >> >> > > > >--- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=ick >___ >Freevo-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click __
Re: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device
Hi John I think you're getting a bit confused with 'games' and 'pygame'. Pygame is a set of python modules that allows you to create games or other SDL display things like menus. This is what Freevo uses to display all it's menus so without pygame working you wouldn't see Freevo at all. Paul John Snowdon wrote: Does Freevo actually display ok? I got the dxr3 to work ok and films, freevo and recordings etc display fine but could I heck make it work with any SDL games!... they all complain about no video device or compatible video modes. John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist -==- Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing Dept School of Medical Education Development University of Newcastle -Original Message- From: r.van.der.veen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2004 22:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device I've tried setting up freevo with DXR3 support following the dxr3 wiki howto. Aplying the dxr3 SDL patch goes without any errors even configuring an compiling SDL afterwards goes without any errors. But stil I get the obove mesage. I'm runing debian both stable and unstable. Freevo with the adapted runtime package as described on the wiki dxr3 page. Also tried installing the install deps one by one and ran freevo and tried installing freevo from source. all results in the same error. On the unstable distro of debian i've even tried apt-get'ting freevo so I would get all dependencies, removed libSDL and compiled it myself. Nothing did get me to a solution. Even tried to export SDL_VIDEODEVICE=dxr3 But it didn't make a diverence. What am I doing wrong? Any help is welcome Ronald --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&opÌk ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users
RE: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device
Does Freevo actually display ok? I got the dxr3 to work ok and films, freevo and recordings etc display fine but could I heck make it work with any SDL games!... they all complain about no video device or compatible video modes. John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist -==- Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing Dept School of Medical Education Development University of Newcastle >-Original Message- >From: r.van.der.veen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 08 April 2004 22:25 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Freevo-users] DXR3 pygame.error: No Available video device > > >I've tried setting up freevo with DXR3 support following the dxr3 wiki >howto. Aplying the dxr3 SDL patch goes without any errors even >configuring an compiling SDL afterwards goes without any errors. But >stil I get the obove mesage. I'm runing debian both stable and >unstable. > >Freevo with the adapted runtime package as described on the wiki dxr3 >page. Also tried installing the install deps one by one and ran freevo >and tried installing freevo from source. all results in the >same error. >On the unstable distro of debian i've even tried apt-get'ting >freevo so >I would get all dependencies, removed libSDL and compiled it myself. >Nothing did get me to a solution. Even tried to export >SDL_VIDEODEVICE=dxr3 But it didn't make a diverence. > >What am I doing wrong? >Any help is welcome > >Ronald > > > >--- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials >Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of >GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system >administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click >___ >Freevo-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70&alloc_id638&op=click ___ Freevo-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users