Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-09 Thread Gillian Densmore
Just to add to the narrative one thing I've found potentially nice about
gitpages is that with some file or folder-jitsu I can get a back up.  I'm
always a little woried my wordpress projects (for instance) could go poof,
or something else goes wrong. While I'm no Git expert by anymeens it does
look to track changes. So if something does go wrong  someone might be able
to undue it and that's always a good thing.

While setting up an acount on git as my other one looks to have gone poot I
found some Content Managers others might like for one reason or another. As
it's a hobby side to web-making I didn't dig all that deep or get into
technical pro's and cons:

Kirby:
http://getkirby.com/

PencilBlue: NodeJS goodness- I've played with it some on redhats OpenShift
(not open Blip)


and finally:Pulse
http://www.pulsecms.com/


FWIW Kirby's Devs did a Q'nA on Stackverflow earlier this year it might go
creativecommons such that someone for personal project type use could use
it free but for professional comercialy kind of use, you'd have to pay for
a license.

I have no idea what all the status of that is.




On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> I dig wordpress for somethings, yet I also like to make webpages as a
> hobby. I was messing around with gitpages the other day and found out it
> can (sort of) do stuff other than jekyl
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
> wrote:
>
>> Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system
>> has been.
>>
>
>

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Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Gillian Densmore
I dig wordpress for somethings, yet I also like to make webpages as a
hobby. I was messing around with gitpages the other day and found out it
can (sort of) do stuff other than jekyl

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Gillian Densmore 
wrote:

> Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system has
> been.
>

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Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Marcus Daniels
Bullet Physics is a nice way to represent an environment and to represent the 
agents.   Physical interaction between agents and/or static objects is directly 
reported.   Just compile with emscripten if you want it in a web browser..

https://github.com/kripken/ammo.js


From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:11 PM
To: Brent Auble; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Cc: wedt...@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

Brent: way WAY astute observations and info, thanks 10^6!

How's this for an idea: follow Ed's Mooc.  No need to do the homework etc, just 
to get informed as to webgl's core capabilities.  It's just started and the 
videos are there for the watching and a standard vocabulary. The GPU is a 
standard worth knowing.

Then we can (a group of us here interested in the topic .. hopefully Pietro who 
has a LOT of ABM experience .. as does a lot of Italy) put together some ideas 
for 3D ABM.

Certainly Uri and Seth were interested in it, but didn't have time to do the 
research.  Thus they use 2.5 D "pop-out" for standard NetLogo .. way nice .. 
and agree that beyond their "cube patches", they hadn't time for enough 
research into the matter.

ABM is basically "data all the way down" with dynamic interaction within the 
data.  3D fits into this, I think.

Maybe we should just think of models that could use 3D? RedFish has a few 
fascinating ideas in the works like point-clouds as computation.

Thanks again.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Brent Auble 
mailto:br...@auble.net>> wrote:
Hi Owen, we've done some work using Processing to do 3D visualization in 
NetLogo -- both by opening an Processing window from a running NetLogo model 
and by running NetLogo headless from a Processing program (and doing real-time 
visualization of the running model).  Of course, NetLogo uses Processing for 
some of its built-in 3D visualization, but the version is somewhat old and I 
don't think Uri et al have put much effort into the 3D side of things recently, 
so our approach gives a bit more flexibility.  I'm happy to share the paper we 
put together on it if you or anyone else is interested.

The question of what a 3D ABM is actually useful for is surprisingly more 
challenging.  We put together a simple dynamic network model and used the 3D to 
visualize the connections between and movement of the nodes from one state to 
another (of 3 possible states), so we had something like a sandwich of dots 
with lines that we could rotate around and zoom in on.  It was something that 
made it a bit easier to understand what was going on in the model and between 
the nodes -- more a reporting mechanism than an inherent part of the model.  
Well, that, plus it looked cooler.

Using 3D as an inherent part of the model's behavior is another thing entirely. 
 In that case, the model would require the physical 3 dimensional location of 
each agent (and the environment) to be critical to the behavior of the agents 
-- and something that couldn't be easily represented in 2D with the 3rd 
dimension handled separately.  We started to look at using animation software, 
such as Maya, to do the modeling, but didn't make much progress before our 
animator moved on.  Maya or 3DS Max allow for Python programming, but it isn't 
exactly ideal for ABM work.

Brent


From: Owen Densmore mailto:o...@backspaces.net>>
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
mailto:friam@redfish.com>>
Cc: "wedt...@redfish.com<mailto:wedt...@redfish.com>" 
mailto:wedt...@redfish.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

Hi Pietro, great to hear from you. Lets try to get together next time I travel 
to Italy. I generally stay in Camerano, near Ancona, but often spend time in 
Venice with Fabio or lately in Padova .. so we'd not be that far apart via 
train.

SLAPP is quite nice. I wonder if you would be interested in a NetLogo inspired 
JavaScript ABM framework: http://agentscript.org<http://agentscript.org/>. I 
need help thinking about its future.

I'm taking a break from it for a while, diving into a webgl mooc given by Ed 
Angel based on material from the latest edition, 7, of his Interactive Computer 
Graphics text .. all using webgl.

Here's the url of the mooc if you'd like to follow along:
https://www.coursera.org/course/webgl

A major goal for a few of us is how to move ABM to 3D. We spoke with Uri and 
Seth at NetLogo and they hadn't enough time to really research how to best use 
3D.

Great to hear from you.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Pietro Terna 
mailto:pietro.te...@unito.it>> wrote:

Dear all,

sometimes I reappear ...

My experience is very positive, with 

Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Owen Densmore
Brent: way WAY astute observations and info, thanks 10^6!

How's this for an idea: follow Ed's Mooc.  No need to do the homework etc,
just to get informed as to webgl's core capabilities.  It's just started
and the videos are there for the watching and a standard vocabulary. The
GPU is a standard worth knowing.

Then we can (a group of us here interested in the topic .. hopefully Pietro
who has a LOT of ABM experience .. as does a lot of Italy) put together
some ideas for 3D ABM.

Certainly Uri and Seth were interested in it, but didn't have time to do
the research.  Thus they use 2.5 D "pop-out" for standard NetLogo .. way
nice .. and agree that beyond their "cube patches", they hadn't time for
enough research into the matter.

ABM is basically "data all the way down" with dynamic interaction within
the data.  3D fits into this, I think.

Maybe we should just think of models that could use 3D? RedFish has a few
fascinating ideas in the works like point-clouds as computation.

Thanks again.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Brent Auble  wrote:

> Hi Owen, we've done some work using Processing to do 3D visualization in
> NetLogo -- both by opening an Processing window from a running NetLogo
> model and by running NetLogo headless from a Processing program (and doing
> real-time visualization of the running model).  Of course, NetLogo uses
> Processing for some of its built-in 3D visualization, but the version is
> somewhat old and I don't think Uri et al have put much effort into the 3D
> side of things recently, so our approach gives a bit more flexibility.  I'm
> happy to share the paper we put together on it if you or anyone else is
> interested.
>
> The question of what a 3D ABM is actually useful for is surprisingly more
> challenging.  We put together a simple dynamic network model and used the
> 3D to visualize the connections between and movement of the nodes from one
> state to another (of 3 possible states), so we had something like a
> sandwich of dots with lines that we could rotate around and zoom in on.  It
> was something that made it a bit easier to understand what was going on in
> the model and between the nodes -- more a reporting mechanism than an
> inherent part of the model.  Well, that, plus it looked cooler.
>
> Using 3D as an inherent part of the model's behavior is another thing
> entirely.  In that case, the model would require the physical 3 dimensional
> location of each agent (and the environment) to be critical to the behavior
> of the agents -- and something that couldn't be easily represented in 2D
> with the 3rd dimension handled separately.  We started to look at using
> animation software, such as Maya, to do the modeling, but didn't make much
> progress before our animator moved on.  Maya or 3DS Max allow for Python
> programming, but it isn't exactly ideal for ABM work.
>
> Brent
>
>   --
>  *From:* Owen Densmore 
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam@redfish.com>
> *Cc:* "wedt...@redfish.com" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] github pages...
>
> Hi Pietro, great to hear from you. Lets try to get together next time I
> travel to Italy. I generally stay in Camerano, near Ancona, but often spend
> time in Venice with Fabio or lately in Padova .. so we'd not be that far
> apart via train.
>
> SLAPP is quite nice. I wonder if you would be interested in a NetLogo
> inspired JavaScript ABM framework: http://agentscript.org. I need help
> thinking about its future.
>
> I'm taking a break from it for a while, diving into a webgl mooc given by
> Ed Angel based on material from the latest edition, 7, of his Interactive
> Computer Graphics text .. all using webgl.
>
> Here's the url of the mooc if you'd like to follow along:
> https://www.coursera.org/course/webgl
>
> A major goal for a few of us is how to move ABM to 3D. We spoke with Uri
> and Seth at NetLogo and they hadn't enough time to really research how to
> best use 3D.
>
> Great to hear from you.
>
>-- Owen
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Pietro Terna 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> sometimes I reappear ...
>
> My experience is very positive, with https://github.com/terna/SLAPP
> and GitHum program in my Mac.
>
> Best, Pietro
>
> Il 08/07/15 18:55, Gillian Densmore ha scritto:
>
> Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system has
> been.
>
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at ca

Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Brent Auble
Hi Owen, we've done some work using Processing to do 3D visualization in 
NetLogo -- both by opening an Processing window from a running NetLogo model 
and by running NetLogo headless from a Processing program (and doing real-time 
visualization of the running model).  Of course, NetLogo uses Processing for 
some of its built-in 3D visualization, but the version is somewhat old and I 
don't think Uri et al have put much effort into the 3D side of things recently, 
so our approach gives a bit more flexibility.  I'm happy to share the paper we 
put together on it if you or anyone else is interested.
The question of what a 3D ABM is actually useful for is surprisingly more 
challenging.  We put together a simple dynamic network model and used the 3D to 
visualize the connections between and movement of the nodes from one state to 
another (of 3 possible states), so we had something like a sandwich of dots 
with lines that we could rotate around and zoom in on.  It was something that 
made it a bit easier to understand what was going on in the model and between 
the nodes -- more a reporting mechanism than an inherent part of the model.  
Well, that, plus it looked cooler.  
Using 3D as an inherent part of the model's behavior is another thing entirely. 
 In that case, the model would require the physical 3 dimensional location of 
each agent (and the environment) to be critical to the behavior of the agents 
-- and something that couldn't be easily represented in 2D with the 3rd 
dimension handled separately.  We started to look at using animation software, 
such as Maya, to do the modeling, but didn't make much progress before our 
animator moved on.  Maya or 3DS Max allow for Python programming, but it isn't 
exactly ideal for ABM work.
Brent
  From: Owen Densmore 
 To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group  
Cc: "wedt...@redfish.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FRIAM] github pages...
   
Hi Pietro, great to hear from you. Lets try to get together next time I travel 
to Italy. I generally stay in Camerano, near Ancona, but often spend time in 
Venice with Fabio or lately in Padova .. so we'd not be that far apart via 
train.
SLAPP is quite nice. I wonder if you would be interested in a NetLogo inspired 
JavaScript ABM framework: http://agentscript.org. I need help thinking about 
its future.
I'm taking a break from it for a while, diving into a webgl mooc given by Ed 
Angel based on material from the latest edition, 7, of his Interactive Computer 
Graphics text .. all using webgl.
Here's the url of the mooc if you'd like to follow along:     
https://www.coursera.org/course/webgl
A major goal for a few of us is how to move ABM to 3D. We spoke with Uri and 
Seth at NetLogo and they hadn't enough time to really research how to best use 
3D.
Great to hear from you.
   -- Owen
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Pietro Terna  wrote:

 

     Dear all,
 
     sometimes I reappear ...
 
     My experience is very positive, with https://github.com/terna/SLAPP and 
GitHum program in my Mac.
 
     Best, Pietro
 
 Il 08/07/15 18:55, Gillian Densmore ha scritto:
  
 Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system has 
been.
  
  
 
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Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Owen Densmore
Hi Pietro, great to hear from you. Lets try to get together next time I
travel to Italy. I generally stay in Camerano, near Ancona, but often spend
time in Venice with Fabio or lately in Padova .. so we'd not be that far
apart via train.

SLAPP is quite nice. I wonder if you would be interested in a NetLogo
inspired JavaScript ABM framework: http://agentscript.org. I need help
thinking about its future.

I'm taking a break from it for a while, diving into a webgl mooc given by
Ed Angel based on material from the latest edition, 7, of his Interactive
Computer Graphics text .. all using webgl.

Here's the url of the mooc if you'd like to follow along:
https://www.coursera.org/course/webgl

A major goal for a few of us is how to move ABM to 3D. We spoke with Uri
and Seth at NetLogo and they hadn't enough time to really research how to
best use 3D.

Great to hear from you.

   -- Owen

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Pietro Terna  wrote:

>  Dear all,
>
> sometimes I reappear ...
>
> My experience is very positive, with https://github.com/terna/SLAPP
> and GitHum program in my Mac.
>
> Best, Pietro
>
> Il 08/07/15 18:55, Gillian Densmore ha scritto:
>
> Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system has
> been.
>
>
> 
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>
>
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Re: [FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Pietro Terna

Dear all,

sometimes I reappear ...

My experience is very positive, with https://github.com/terna/SLAPP 
and GitHum program in my Mac.


Best, Pietro

Il 08/07/15 18:55, Gillian Densmore ha scritto:
Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system 
has been.




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[FRIAM] github pages...

2015-07-08 Thread Gillian Densmore
Just wondering what other peoples experience with githubs pages system has
been.

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