Re: [Gendergap] Gender gap vs gender bias

[J Hayes]

yes, i believe we have discussed this before-

there is a systemic bias in article subjects (including a sub-set of bios)
based on editor interest;
there is a systemic bias in the "reliable sources" which makes it harder to
address bias, by adding sources alone;
there is systemic bias with cultural push back when "feminist" topics are
edited

the research newsletter would have more information: i.e.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/February#.22First_Women.2C_Second_Sex:_Gender_Bias_in_Wikipedia.22

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2013/July#Survey_participation_bias_analysis:_More_Wikipedia_editors_are_female.2C_married_or_parents_than_previously_assumed

i don't see studies of subject matter quality bias

jim

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Natacha Rault  wrote:

>  Hi everyone,
>
> I am running currently a project in Switzerland dedicated to the gender
> gap. More information here (in French)
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Suisse/Biographies_des_femmes_en_Suisse
> and here on the website of the University of Geneva:
> http://www.unige.ch/rectorat/egalite/evenement/actualites/wikipedia/
>
> I had an interesting encounter on Twitter with an established Wikipedian
> who suggested that women bios and bios in general were not well received by
> the wikipedian community because of admissibility issues.
>
> This person also suggested that addressing gender gap could not be
> fulfilled by just having women write bios, because this is addressing only
> the gender bias. He said writing bios did not help women address more
> complicated and technical subjects.
>
> He wrote that limiting the gender gap to the gender bias is not enough.
>
> Does anyone have a clue on this subject and/or informations, discussion
> feeds and papers of academic research?
>
> I had the idea that gender gap had two aspects: contributor gap and
> subject gap. To me gender bias had more to do with the way sexist
> stereotypes introduces differences in the way an article is written: for
> e.g. women bios tend to be more focused on the marital life and less on the
> work achieved, less linked to other articles. Therefore the two concepts
> cannot so easily be separated and have a two way causality.
>
> So I would really appreciate an exchange on this subject (sorry if it has
> been addressed before), and of the ways we can address the problem in
> effect, and not just in theory (especially when running an editing workshop
> or edit-a-thon). Do we have somme sort of best practices somewhere? A group
> devoted to this?
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Nattes à chat
>
>
>
>
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[Gendergap] Gender gap vs gender bias

[Natacha Rault]

 Hi everyone, 

I am running currently a project in Switzerland dedicated to the gender gap. 
More information here (in French) 
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Suisse/Biographies_des_femmes_en_Suisse 
and here on the website of the University of Geneva:  
http://www.unige.ch/rectorat/egalite/evenement/actualites/wikipedia/

I had an interesting encounter on Twitter with an established Wikipedian who 
suggested that women bios and bios in general were not well received by the 
wikipedian community because of admissibility issues. 

This person also suggested that addressing gender gap could not be fulfilled by 
just having women write bios, because this is addressing only the gender bias. 
He said writing bios did not help women address more complicated and technical 
subjects. 

He wrote that limiting the gender gap to the gender bias is not enough. 

Does anyone have a clue on this subject and/or informations, discussion feeds 
and papers of academic research? 

I had the idea that gender gap had two aspects: contributor gap and subject 
gap. To me gender bias had more to do with the way sexist stereotypes 
introduces differences in the way an article is written: for e.g. women bios 
tend to be more focused on the marital life and less on the work achieved, less 
linked to other articles. Therefore the two concepts cannot so easily be 
separated and have a two way causality. 

So I would really appreciate an exchange on this subject (sorry if it has been 
addressed before), and of the ways we can address the problem in effect, and 
not just in theory (especially when running an editing workshop or 
edit-a-thon). Do we have somme sort of best practices somewhere? A group 
devoted to this?

Kind regards, 


Nattes à chat




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[Gendergap] Call for Participation: Study on Women in Wikipedia

[Danielle J McDonald]

Hi all,


I'm currently conducting some research on the experiences of self-identified 
women editors on English Wikipedia. Despite the studies and articles discussing 
how so few women edit, still very little is known about the experiences of 
women who actively edit English Wikipedia and their perceptions of the gender 
gap. The goal is to make these findings useful to the Wikimedia/Wikipedia 
community (and the broader public). (I also welcome feedback about creative 
ways to do this!)


I'm seeking interviews with self-identified women editors of English Wikipedia 
who have been actively editing for 2+ years. This interview would take place 
over Skype, phone, or email, and your involvement would be completely 
confidential (and much appreciated)! If you're interested in participating, 
please email me at mcdon...@purdue.edu.


If you'd like to learn more about the project, here's the 
link
 to the Wikipedia research page. And please feel free to ask me any questions!


Thanks!


Danielle

Research:Beyond the Gender Gap: Understanding Women's 
...
meta.wikimedia.org
Existing research on the Wikipedia gender gap has provided insight into the 
broad landscape of Wikipedia editorship trends, although it has not examined 
the gender ...


Danielle McDonald Corple

Graduate Assistant, Susan Bulkeley Butler Center for Leadership Excellence
Graduate Teaching Assistant, Brian Lamb School of Communication
Purdue University
Office: Beering 2167
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