Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-31 Thread Kyle Adams
easier still would be to put ACCEPT_LICENSE=* in your make.conf

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.eduwrote:

 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 09:43:22AM -0800, Grant wrote:
   Hi,
  
   add to your /etc/portage/package.license :
  
   net-im/skype skype-eula
  
   This will unmask skype.
  
   regards,
 
  Could someone explain the purpose of this new portage feature?  I was
  hoping adding a license to package.license would negate the need to
  agree to the license when emerging, but it doesn't seem to do that.
 

 Really? are you sure you don't have a typo? I don't use
 package.license, but I put ACCEPT_LICENSE=skype-eula in my make.conf
 and emerged skype with no problems nor prompts.

 What did you see after performing Boris's suggestions?

 W
 --
 Willie W. Wong
 ww...@math.princeton.edu
 Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton




Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-31 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 09:09:26AM -0800, Kyle Adams wrote:
 easier still would be to put ACCEPT_LICENSE=* in your make.conf

Easier... arguably. But are you sure you want to accept ALL EULAs that
can ever be? What if I were to bundle some software that has a
two line EULA: By installing this software you agree that I am not 
responsible for anything breaking. And I can freely use computing 
cycles on your computer for other purposes. It is in plain English.
Would you accept this EULA? 

I accept Skype's EULA while compromising my standards because, all
things considered, it is the best way to communicate with family and
friends overseas. But in general I do not like it when software comes
with strings attached, and I try to avoid them. 

The issue of whether EULAs are legally binding aside, just agreeing,
blindly, to any-and-all past-and-future contracts that unknown third
entities thrust at you is, in my opinion, considerably daft. 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-31 Thread Grant
  Hi,
 
  add to your /etc/portage/package.license :
 
  net-im/skype skype-eula
 
  This will unmask skype.
 
  regards,

 Could someone explain the purpose of this new portage feature?  I was
 hoping adding a license to package.license would negate the need to
 agree to the license when emerging, but it doesn't seem to do that.


 Really? are you sure you don't have a typo? I don't use
 package.license, but I put ACCEPT_LICENSE=skype-eula in my make.conf
 and emerged skype with no problems nor prompts.

 What did you see after performing Boris's suggestions?

I'm doing all of my testing with net-wireless/broadcom-sta.

package.license seems to unmask the package which otherwise won't
emerge.  ACCEPT_LICENSE does negate the need manually accept the
license.  So they seem to perform different functions.  skype will
still emerge without package.license?  Maybe there's a difference in
the license which is responsible for the different behavior?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-31 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:14:27AM -0800, Grant wrote:
 I'm doing all of my testing with net-wireless/broadcom-sta.
 
 package.license seems to unmask the package which otherwise won't
 emerge.  ACCEPT_LICENSE does negate the need manually accept the
 license.  So they seem to perform different functions.  skype will
 still emerge without package.license?  Maybe there's a difference in
 the license which is responsible for the different behavior?

That's odd. You say that ACCEPT_LICENSE negates the need to manually
accept the license, yet package.license does not? You should file a
bug about this: per 'man portage'

package.license
   This will allow ACCEPT_LICENSE to be augmented for a sin‐
   gle package.

   Format:
   - comment lines begin with # (no inline comments)
   - one DEPEND atom per line followed by additional licenses or groups

I read this to mean that they should behave the same way. 

The design philosophy of ACCEPT_LICENSE vs package.license seems to be the same 
as ACCEPT_KEYWORD vs package.keyword ...

Curious. 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-30 Thread Grant
 Hi,

 add to your /etc/portage/package.license :

 net-im/skype skype-eula

 This will unmask skype.

 regards,

 Boris

Could someone explain the purpose of this new portage feature?  I was
hoping adding a license to package.license would negate the need to
agree to the license when emerging, but it doesn't seem to do that.

- Grant


 This is confusing me ...

 I have skype-2.0.0.72 installed for some time now.  eix -l skype shows:

 [I] net-im/skype
     Available versions:
                        2.0.0.72!m!s amd64 x86 [qt-static]
                ~       2.1.0.81+i!m!s ~amd64 ~x86 [qt-static]
     Installed versions:  2.0.0.72!m!s(06:22:21 04/15/09)(-qt-static)
     Homepage:            http://www.skype.com/
     Description:         A P2P-VoiceIP client.

 However, after updating portage I see:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

 !!! The following installed packages are masked:
 - net-im/skype-2.0.0.72 (masked by: skype-eula license(s))
 A copy of the 'skype-eula' license is located at 
 '/usr/portage/licenses/skype-
 eula'.

 Is portage telling me that I need to do something about the eula?  eix does
 not show this version as being masked.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-30 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 09:43:22AM -0800, Grant wrote:
  Hi,
 
  add to your /etc/portage/package.license :
 
  net-im/skype skype-eula
 
  This will unmask skype.
 
  regards,
 
 Could someone explain the purpose of this new portage feature?  I was
 hoping adding a license to package.license would negate the need to
 agree to the license when emerging, but it doesn't seem to do that.
 

Really? are you sure you don't have a typo? I don't use
package.license, but I put ACCEPT_LICENSE=skype-eula in my make.conf
and emerged skype with no problems nor prompts. 

What did you see after performing Boris's suggestions?

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-26 Thread Boris Fersing
Hi,

add to your /etc/portage/package.license :

net-im/skype skype-eula

This will unmask skype.

regards,

Boris

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 08:27, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is confusing me ...

 I have skype-2.0.0.72 installed for some time now.  eix -l skype shows:

 [I] net-im/skype
     Available versions:
                        2.0.0.72!m!s amd64 x86 [qt-static]
                ~       2.1.0.81+i!m!s ~amd64 ~x86 [qt-static]
     Installed versions:  2.0.0.72!m!s(06:22:21 04/15/09)(-qt-static)
     Homepage:            http://www.skype.com/
     Description:         A P2P-VoiceIP client.

 However, after updating portage I see:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

 !!! The following installed packages are masked:
 - net-im/skype-2.0.0.72 (masked by: skype-eula license(s))
 A copy of the 'skype-eula' license is located at '/usr/portage/licenses/skype-
 eula'.

 Is portage telling me that I need to do something about the eula?  eix does
 not show this version as being masked.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick




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Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-26 Thread John H. Moe
Mick wrote:
 This is confusing me ...

 I have skype-2.0.0.72 installed for some time now.  eix -l skype shows:

 [I] net-im/skype
  Available versions:  
 2.0.0.72!m!s amd64 x86 [qt-static]
 ~   2.1.0.81+i!m!s ~amd64 ~x86 [qt-static]
  Installed versions:  2.0.0.72!m!s(06:22:21 04/15/09)(-qt-static)
  Homepage:http://www.skype.com/
  Description: A P2P-VoiceIP client.

 However, after updating portage I see:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

 !!! The following installed packages are masked:
 - net-im/skype-2.0.0.72 (masked by: skype-eula license(s))
 A copy of the 'skype-eula' license is located at '/usr/portage/licenses/skype-
 eula'.

 Is portage telling me that I need to do something about the eula?  eix does 
 not show this version as being masked.
   
1. Go to Google (or your favourite search engine)
2. Search for gentoo license mask
3. Follow instructions from several previous threads

John Moe



Re: [gentoo-user] skype masked because of eula?

2010-01-26 Thread Mick
2010/1/26 John H. Moe john...@optusnet.com.au:
 Mick wrote:
 This is confusing me ...

 I have skype-2.0.0.72 installed for some time now.  eix -l skype shows:

 [I] net-im/skype
      Available versions:
                         2.0.0.72!m!s amd64 x86 [qt-static]
                 ~       2.1.0.81+i!m!s ~amd64 ~x86 [qt-static]
      Installed versions:  2.0.0.72!m!s(06:22:21 04/15/09)(-qt-static)
      Homepage:            http://www.skype.com/
      Description:         A P2P-VoiceIP client.

 However, after updating portage I see:

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

 !!! The following installed packages are masked:
 - net-im/skype-2.0.0.72 (masked by: skype-eula license(s))
 A copy of the 'skype-eula' license is located at 
 '/usr/portage/licenses/skype-
 eula'.

 Is portage telling me that I need to do something about the eula?  eix does
 not show this version as being masked.

 1. Go to Google (or your favourite search engine)
 2. Search for gentoo license mask
 3. Follow instructions from several previous threads

Nice, thanks.  :-)
-- 
Regards,
Mick