Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 08:20:31PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote: On 18 Nov 2014 at 18:46, George Eycott George Eycott geo...@eycott.co.uk wrote: 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a crawl. We are lucky to get 100Kb/s upload speed at any time, often it would actually be quicker to use a dial up connection! Apparently our exchange is known to be in congestion but nothing is planned to be done about it Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty of 3G/4G unlimited packages available, some from the newtworks and some from MVNOs Pointers to any of those that really are unlimited and not just unlimited* would be most welcome. * unlimited up to N gigabytes per month; no tethering; SIM must be in a 15 year old nokia that does gprs if you're lucky; only available in Worthing. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Anger over BBC radio streaming changes
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:04:24PM -, C E Macfarlane wrote: The BBC should never have adopted any proprietary format in the first place. Back when they first started streaming stuff online, the only available products were proprietary. Remember how they started off with Real Audio? As soon as non-proprietary formats became available, they tried them out. When I was working at KW sometime around 2000 or so, we had an extensive Ogg Vorbis trial, for example, but it never got much traction. I don't remember why it didn't take off - presumably lack of client support, because despite me being a bit of a geek I found the RA streams far easier to use. The BBC is paid for out of our taxes No it isn't. and it should be using open source formats whose future support is more certain but that's what people are complaining about! However, once having made the mistake of adopting such a standard, they have a duty to adopt for a reasonable minimum length of time. Analogue VHF television broadcasting lasted I believe about 20 years before being switched off ... They did. Real Audio and Windows Stuff *were* adopted for a more than reasonable length of time. Well over a decade IIRC. And it is not as if this is an isolated example. I have calculated elsewhere that AT LEAST a million items of equipment have either been disastrously castrated or even made entirely useless by similar actions by the BBC over approximately the last year alone. That's only meaningful if you include data on how old those devices were and how many were still in use at the time Auntie castrated them. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence You can't spell AWESOME without ME! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Seedbox GiP
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:58:35PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: Much of the UK's Internet infrastructure is concentrated in data centres and other hastily-erected barns in both Docklands and even more expensive parts of the capital, with bits of wet string trailing out to the rest of the country. So you can either have punitive server rental with virtually free bandwidth, or cheap rental out in the sticks but with eye-watering per-byte charges. I think this basically comes from London-centricism plus an artefact of BT pricing in the mid-90s making it not cost-effective for ISPs to build-out regional infrastructure. I'm far more inclined to blame BT than any London-centrism. And note that this is changing now. I think the machine I'm sending this from is out in the sticks in York, for example, having started in London, then moved to Manchester, and finally to York. Reason VPS is in Holland is price: initially Euro 30 pa, now discounted. The Dutch love a bargain, but that price can't possibly be sustainable. For a very small VPS running on over-subscribed hardware it might be. And it's not like that would matter if you just use it for occasional torrenting and the like. So your torrent downloads a bit slower. Big deal. -- David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to catch TB than a normal person ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Maybe OT]British Library National Audit of Sound Collections
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 05:25:35PM +0100, CJB wrote: British Library National Audit of Sound Collections At last someone is thinking of the future - but 15 years for there to be no hardware to play sound recordings seems a tad short ... http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/10917/british-library-national-audit-collections That 15 years is referring to stuff like reel-to-reel tapes, wax cylinders and the like - media that degrade with time, and playback hardware that is obsolete fragile museum pieces that hardly anyone is familiar with, and which by its very use helps to degrade the recording medium. The hardware will still exist, of course, but if it's fragile and the media are likely to break when played back, they might as well not exist for all the good they do. And remember, most recordings are made on media that was cheap at the time. Long-term stability over a period of decades was definitely not a concern of the manufacturers, nor was it a concern of most of the people making recordings. I have a small collection of recordings from the 80s and 90s from unsigned bands, most of whom have gone nowhere. Back In The Day they would advertise demo tapes in the classified ads in magazines instead of just sticking everything in bandcamp or soundcloud like they do now. For several years they just sat in a box. Then I decided that I needed to digitise them for more convenient playback and also because I knew that the cassette tapes they were recorded on would be slowly decaying. So I bought a decent cassette deck, and a few modern commercial recordings just to make sure I had everything working properly. The commercial recordings played back OK, so I started feeding old demo tapes in and transferring them to CD. About half of them had very serious problems such as the tape getting tangled up, or stretching. After a dozen or so I just gave up. It's probable that an institution like the British Library could recover the content from all those cassettes relatively easily, but even so, it would be time-consuming and there are probably hundreds of thousands of cassette recordings that are worth preserving, all of which are slowly degrading. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice All principles of gravity are negated by fear -- Cartoon Law IV ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Maybe OT]British Library National Audit of Sound Collections
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 05:16:03PM +0100, Jim web wrote: In article 20150518113734.ga21...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: So I bought a decent cassette deck, and a few modern commercial recordings just to make sure I had everything working properly. The commercial recordings played back OK, so I started feeding old demo tapes in and transferring them to CD. About half of them had very serious problems such as the tape getting tangled up, or stretching. After a dozen or so I just gave up. You may have been unlucky. Possibly. In recent years I've used a 2nd hand cassette deck to make digital versions of many of my old cassettes. Up to now that's worked fine for over a hundred tapes mainly made in the 1980s. (I switched from R2R at the start of the 80s.) That said, the tapes are Maxell, and the deck a Nak Cassette Deck 2. So the deck may be treating the tapes more kindly than many decks. In this case the tapes are whatever unsigned bands consisting of impoverished students could buy in bulk. So cheap crap made out of swarf and brown paint probably. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Human Rights left unattended may be removed, destroyed, or damaged by the security services. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Requests For Features
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:31:36AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote: My hope is that some day ITV, C4 and C5 see the light and realise that all the obstacles they erect have no effect on preventing leaks, but only annoy and inconvenience UK residents. But they don't inconvenience UK residents in general. They inconvenience a tiny number of geeks, who, to be blunt, they don't care about because they tend not to be the sort of people that their advertisers (that is, the people who are ITV/C4/C5's customers) care about. Normal people either enslave themselves to the TV schedule, or record stuff on whatever the modern equivalent of a VCR is, or they don't care what they watch they just want to stare vacantly all day at the shiny box in the corner of the room. People like you and me who are discriminating in our viewing choices, refuse to enslave ourselves to a broadcaster's schedule, and want to download stuff instead of recording it are really not at all important to them. That may change in the future, of course, and when their incentives change then I expect their behaviour to change too. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information 23.5 degrees of axial tilt is the reason for the season ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Is this the Beginning of The End for get_iplayer?
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 01:21:58PM -0500, artisticforge . wrote: This would appear to be a show stopper. As I wrote in the subject: Is this the Beginning of The End for get_iplayer? Honest question. Not flame bait. Not trolling. I assume that once the Nitro API is opened to the public then get_iplayer can be frobbed to use that instead of Dynamite. However, it will require an API key. I assume that every user will have to get his own key, so there will be a bit of faffing around required. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic If you can't imagine how I do something, it's because I have a better imagination than you ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Nitro API
On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 03:42:02PM +0100, Jon Davies wrote: On 3 June 2015 at 15:08, Kevin Lynch klyn...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at it in glass half full way maybe the use of the nitro API could be something that's easily incorporated into get_iplayer if the implementation of the API is get_iplayer friendly The nature of the licensing for Nitro probably makes it unsuitable - you need an API key to gain access, and so either that API key would be published in the get-iplayer source, and probably abused and then disabled, or we'd have to build some server infrastructure between get-iplayer and Nitro (the intended approach) - which I can't see being viable. Or, as is a *very* common model for stuff like this, users would have to get their own API keys. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house. -- Robert A Heinlein ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Nitro API
On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 03:02:23PM +, David Lake wrote: The idea of an API key is fine - the fact that Beeb has limited it to commercial operators and BBC Employees only is not. They've said that they're going to open it up to the public, and we have no reason to doubt that. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Erudite is when you make a classical allusion to a feather. Kinky is when you use the whole chicken. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: My bat_iplayer script now has a problem.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 03:01:06AM +0300, Vangelis forthnet wrote: On Wed Jun 3 23:51:38 BST 2015, tellyaddict wrote: Do you think this was aimed at us? Hi - if by us you mean the GiP users, I honestly don't think we are their sole concern; their actions in general aim to cripple all 3rd party apps services, to keep their rights holders happy - from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/bc82562e-ea9d-4655-982d-e6219b2c877b I quote: It's also possible that there are unauthorized unidentified 3rd party apps services that use Dynamite; these will stop working. the emphasis being on unauthorized unidentified , so they have no remorse if those break - check also the comments on the linked blog entry for more outcry expressed... I believe you misunderstand and are reading intention where there is none. I don't think that their aim is to harm third party applications, it's to make their own internal systems work better. get_iplayer *is* unauthorized and unidentified. My own iplayer2rss scripts, which I used to get automagic notifications of stuff on iPlayer that would be worth watching, were also unauthorized and unidentified. Unauthorized and unidentified doesn't mean that they hate it. In fact, I wrote my scripts *while I was working at the BBC on Dynamite*. I showed them to my colleagues *and managers*. They thought it was a really good idea and some of them started using them as well. You're being paranoid. -- David Cantrell | even more awesome than a panda-fur coat You are so cynical. And by cynical, of course, I mean correct. -- Kurt Starsinic ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: My bat_iplayer script now has a problem.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 12:51:38AM +0200, tellyaddict wrote: As well as removing the Dynamite TV listing feeds, the BBC have extended their magnanimousness by also blocking the legacy XML playlist URLs, in the form: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlist/[PID] Do you think this was aimed at us? No. Dynamite decommissioning has been on the cards for several years. It suffered from horrible feature-creep which led to it becoming ever more unfit for its purpose. This has been very clearly explained in the BBC blog posts that have been mentioned on this list. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age Support terrierism! Adopt a dog today! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: My bat_iplayer script now has a problem.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 02:32:27PM +0200, tellyaddict wrote: Yes we have known about the decommissioning of Dynamite for some time but I thought that related to the ION feeds and metadata that the cache was using. Are the legacy xml playlists part of Dynamite too then? I believe that they were generated from metadata served up by Dynamite, yes. At least back when I was there, pretty much *everything* iPlayer went via Dynamite at some point. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the entrails of the bastard denying me access to anything else. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Peter Grimes
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 05:14:33PM +0100, Jim web wrote: [1] All I can dream of now is an HD version of Britten conducting the War Requiem. That'd be great. Realise it's a fantasy, though. But maybe they'll repeat the Billy Budd which was broadcast before I started using gip! :-) That was a broadcast of the Glyndebourne production wasn't it? There's a DVD available in Glyndebourne's online shop if that's any help. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig The voices said it's a good day to clean my weapons ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Most of BBC Radio programmes to become downloadable...
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:24:02AM +0100, Roger Rarebit wrote: Having looked at particular a radio programme (e.g. Food Programme) I've noticed that the files on the iplayer radio app are twice the size of the ones available to get_iplayer. Any idea why this would be? It's probably just get_iplayer having a different default preferred bit-rate. -- David Cantrell | even more awesome than a panda-fur coat Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity -- Hanlon's Razor Stupidity maintained long enough is a form of malice -- Richard Bos's corollary ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Requests For Features
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:03:30AM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: Now too I can confirm that it is possible to download ITV programmes using get_flash_videos. The trouble is, looking through the programmes available, there's nothing worth watching anyway! https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/ I believe that they'll have some of the Rugby World Cup games, so there should be something worth watching on their shitty channels in a coupla months time. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic There is no one true indentation style, But if there were KR would be Its Prophets. Peace be upon Their Holy Beards. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Why is '-- type radio' needed?
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:28:15AM +0100, Chris Marriott wrote: > Hmmm. Curious. I download radio programmes with: > > get_iplayer --mode=flashaacstd --pid=xx > > No "type=" and it works just fine. I presume that '--type radio' is a shortcut for a list of modes. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic One person can change the world, but most of the time they shouldn't -- Marge Simpson ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Re: Paywall for iPlayer?
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 12:31:39PM +0100, Graham Temple (gmail) wrote: Yes but what about people who never ever watch TV at all. There are some, believe it or not - my parents for instance. They have computers and internet, but why should they pay a charge for something they will never use, just because they have some equipment (whose primary purpose is not for accessing TV!) which theoretically could access on demand content. How will you differentiate between those who don't and those who say they don't? It is like saying you own a car and live in London so will probably use the Dartford crossing and enter the congestion zone, so we are going to add £50 a year to your road fund licence and do away with the congestion charges and tolls. Next thing you know my taxes will be used to support unemployed people in Wigan, despite me not being unemployed, never having been to Wigan, and certainly never intending to be unemployed in Wigan. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive There is no one true indentation style, But if there were KR would be Its Prophets. Peace be upon Their Holy Beards. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: pop art
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:53:49AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > FWIW and IMHO The problem is that the BBC pages are generated by people > who have no clue about using simple basic HTML and take for granted what > browsers. etc, people will use. This is not the case. They have clue, but they think that supporting the 99.9% of people who use something vaguely modern is more important than catering for people who deliberately crippled their own experience. If I were to choose to use something completely bonkers that no-one else has even heard of this century then I would expect it to not work very well. This is why I don't whine when NetPositive on my BeBox makes stuff look like crap. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig Planckton: n, the smallest possible living thing ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: pop art
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 01:17:03AM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: >And BTW your premise about about > the Terrestrial TV Calculator is also mistaken, because the page was NEVER > DESIGNED to work on a mobile Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were presenting relevant examples. I didn't realise that you thought that the way to convince someone of the correctness of your argument is to present stuff completely irrelevant to the point at hand. What we're arguing about, in case you'd forgotten, is making stuff work well in as many places as is practical. If I'd known that then I would have elegantly refuted your silly argument by telling you in great detail about the cake that I ate in the station cafe at Port Erin. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" We found no search results for "crotchet". Did you mean "crotch"? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Format of BBC Radio 4 .m4a files
On 09/09/2015 11:35, Roger Rarebit wrote: get_iplayer could do with a FLAC/"Apple Lossless" output for maximum quality. There's not much point, because only lossy recordings are available on iPlayer. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" The test of the goodness of a thing is its fitness for use. If it fails on this first test, no amount of ornamentation or finish will make it any better, it will only make it more expensive and foolish. -- Frank Pick, lecture to the Design and Industries Assoc, 1916 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Requests For Features
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 03:18:46PM +0100, Budgie wrote: > Many thanks for the explanation. My point was that unfortunately > obvious descriptions like S1E3 are seldom extant in the filename and > typing accurately is slow and tedious. This is why modern shells have tab completion. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness We found no search results for "crotchet". Did you mean "crotch"? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC Web Documentary: Heroes ....
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 02:15:51PM +, CJB wrote: > Hi guys. Any idea hoe to download these 4 eps. please: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34698246 All four parts together <http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06q770g> so this should do the trick: $ get_iplayer --pid b06q770g -- David Cantrell Human Rights left unattended may be removed, destroyed, or damaged by the security services. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [OT] TOTPs not offered in HD (720p)
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:42:27PM +0200, Vangelis forthnet wrote: > On Sun Jan 10 18:18:13 GMT 2016, CJB wrote: > > >I guess that the HD torrent versions were capped > >'live' / off-air using HD digital recorders. > > The issue here, Chris, is not how Torrent Release Groups do it > (probably by intercepting relay land/satellite Live TV feeds > for which they possess leaked decryption keys You make it sound far fancier than it really is. They don't intercept anything or (for BBC content) decrypt anything. They just record the raw broadcast. In the past I've used EyeTV and an Elgato DTT USB thingy for that. I never bothered with HD myself, but the hardware supported it. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence We found no search results for "crotchet". Did you mean "crotch"? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Android Smart Phone
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:33:40PM +0100, CJB wrote: > Is it possible to download programmes directly to an Android smart > phone? Or is it best to do this on a laptop / PC first and then copy > said files to the phone. Just asking. Thanks - Chris B. There's an official iPlayer app in the Google online shop. That can download programmes. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig Wow, my first sigquoting! I feel so special now! -- Dan Sugalski ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On 2016-02-17, 21:19, Peter S Kirk wrote: Show some manners and do not post expletives. Show some class and don't just dismiss stuff as "arty rubbish". -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Setting Locale in UK
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 09:56:26PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > PS: > > Copy.com closes May 2016 - backup files elsewhere. > > I have ~700GB on copy.com Free. Any suggestions where to move the files > to, preferably free. A 1TB disk attached to a Raspberry Pi running Bittorrent Sync. It's almost free but not quite. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness What plaything can you offer me today? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Offtopic noise: Re: BBC iPlayer viewers now need a...
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 07:32:44PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > However... it seems that this list is mostly used these days for > offtopic crap, and for technical queries which get referred to the > forums. People need to learn that mailing lists *always* have some off-topic content, partly because topics drift, partly because people have different notions of what, precisely, is on-topic, and partly because people are lazy and/or arseholes. The amount of traffic on this list is so low that what off-topic stuff we get just doesn't matter. Learn to ignore it if you don't care about it, just like I ignore anything about Windows. > Is there still a benefit to having this list at all? Would we be better > off shutting it down entirely? Yes. No. Better to shut down the forums, as mailing lists are always a better way of communicating than web forums are. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig There are many different types of sausages. The best are from the north of England. The wurst are from Germany. -- seen in alt.2eggs... ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Spurious write permission error
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 03:55:48PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > From: artisticforge . [mailto:artisticfo...@gmail.com] > > First a request. can you refrain from inserting your web page with > > every post? it is annoying > Tough shit. It's my standard email sig, and I'm not changing it just for you. It is customary to put signatures at the end of messages, not the beginning. I'm sure that if you put it at the end no-one would object. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Please stop rolling your Jargon Dice and explain the problem you are having to me in plain English, using small words. -- John Hardin, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Spurious write permission error
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 08:48:47AM -0500, artisticforge . wrote: > second, I do not do "Windows". That said, any operating system should > prevent the deletion of a file that is in use. Indeed. However, Unix-a-likes do let you delete directory entries for files that are in use - the file is only deleted when there are no directory entries for it and no open file handles left. That's not quite the same, of course, but in unless one is being unnaturally precise in one's writing it is rare for people to discriminate between them. On Windows, on the other hand, my understanding is that you can't delete a dirent for a file that is in use. > MacOSX & Linux will not let me delete a directory if that directory is > the "current working directory" for a process. This is technically true - if you 'rmdir' a directory that is some process's cwd then the dirent will go away but the inode will remain until it is no longer in use. However, you won't be able to do anything meaningful with it. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive I think the most difficult moment that anyone could face is seeing their domestic servants, whether maid or drivers, run away -- Abdul Rahman Al-Sheikh, writing on 25 Jan 2004 at http://www.arabnews.com/node/243486 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Spurious write permission error
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 10:40:01PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > 1)The OS - the OP was working with Windows, while all none of his > respondents are. It might be that Windows is less forgiving of attempts by > one process to access a file that is currently being updated by another > process. File locking semantics are completely different on Windows compared to Unix, and get_iplayer is written in perl, which has very much a Unixy background. I've not looked at the code, but unless there's extra special Windows sauce in there it might not work. -- David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing I'm in retox ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: I deleted my preferences file - re-created it and have a Tele problem
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 09:29:22PM +0100, Clive wrote: > I stupidly cleared my preferences file, tried to recreate it ... Take this as a lesson in why you should have backups! -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:46:24PM +0100, RS wrote: > From: David Cantrell > >At least after the previous Olympics *everything* was available for > >download on iPlayer. > I must be being very stupid then, because I can't find it. If I go to a > day in the Schedule which has already happened I just get a table of > results, not an opportunity to watch the event. Use the iplayer search thingy to look for, eg, "olympic weightlifting" and then click on the bit where it says something like "12 available episodes" on the right, which takes you to ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00cn1xm -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza." "WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THERE IS A HOLE IN YOUR BUCKET?" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: why were BBC archives deleted or destroyed?
On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 03:52:35PM +0100, Chris Woods wrote: > I don't think the future will really see any cultural benefit from > twenty years of Pointless or Gardeners Question Time. People said the same about Dr Who. And I'm quite sure that people said the same in the 1830s about the "penny dreadfuls". Their cultural benefit nearly 200 years later includes the character Sweeney Todd, but more importantly having access to a culture's mass entertainment tells us about that culture things that we wouldn't know if we just looked at what people of quality enjoyed. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club" People from my sort of background needed grammar schools to compete with children from privileged homes like ... Tony Benn -- Margaret Thatcher ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics 2016 RedButton content, offered as catch-up
On 2016-08-12, 00:22, RS wrote: My approach was bbc.co.uk Sport Olympic Games Sport by Sport -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/rio-2016/sports There is then a table of black and white logos. If I click Equestrian I get taken to what looks like a page of news items. If I scroll down below the fold there is an item iPlayer catch ups for every Rio event There's less faffing about if you go to the iplayer main page at bbc.co.uk/iplayer and put "olympic equestrian" (or whatever) into the search box. That quickly gets you the parent pid so you can use pid-recursive to download all the coverage of that sport so far, and links to individual programmes if you only want some of them. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club" NANOG makes me want to unplug everything and hide under the bed -- brian d foy ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer 2.95 released
On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 08:03:58PM +0100, Owen Smith wrote: > Another piece of software dropping Vista support almost a year before the end > of official Microsoft support, sigh. Well I haven't used get_iplayer for > several months, this probably means I never will. > > What annoys me is XP was well supported by third parties for several years > after Microsoft ceased support. Whereas Vista is being dropped by third > parties long before Microsoft support ceases. Why? Because you neglected to pay the vendors for a support contract. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information Sobol's Law of Telecom Utilities: Telcos are malicious; cablecos are simply clueless. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT: why were BBC archives deleted or destroyed?
On 2016-08-04, 19:04, Mark Carroll wrote: On 04 Aug 2016, artisticforge . wrote: This is off-topic but it is of importance to the people who listen to the BBC. please, some of us subscribe to this list to follow get_iplayer stuff specifically. I wonder why this is the only one out of a hundred or so mailing lists that I'm on where people get so pissy about stuff being on-topic. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive Please stop rolling your Jargon Dice and explain the problem you are having to me in plain English, using small words. -- John Hardin, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On 2016-08-06, 10:50, RS wrote: As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer, and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. At least after the previous Olympics *everything* was available for download on iPlayer. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza." "WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THERE IS A HOLE IN YOUR BUCKET?" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 03:52:52PM +0100, George Eycott wrote: > Having a thought about this, when you stream something through IPlayer or on > a device of any sort to watch as it streams, it pulls data at a far lower > rate than when we try and download the whole programme in one hit. I wonder > whether it is this attempt to get the data quickly that is causing the > problem. If I were wearing a tin hat I would say it could have been a > deliberate change to cause problems to people using get_iplayer :-) I think that's unlikely. That said, if someone were to add rate-limiting options to get_iplayer I'd be very happy. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness [OS X] appeals to me as a monk, a user, a compiler-of-apps, a sometime coder, and an easily amused primate with a penchant for those that are pretty, colorful, and make nice noises. -- Dan Birchall, in The Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:03:20PM +0100, RS wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but I find that incredible. The Mac is sold > as a machine which allows creative people to create without having to > bother with technicalities. And a Ferrari is sold as something that will turn you into a racing god and attract members of the appropriate sex, even though it actually does neither. Please don't confuse marketing with reality :-) As far as I'm concerned a Mac is a good compromise between Unix, doing A/V playback reliably, and having commercial desktop software available. > If I search for Linux traffic management or > Windows traffic management I can see that there are programs which do that > sort of thing, but they are only needed if I want to do clever things like > running a heavily loaded server where the load has to be balanced between > processes. I have 5 programs open on my task bar and 58 processes. Windows > allocates resources between them as they demand them OS X does that too. It's just that in this rare case I know better than the OS does. Exactly the same problem would arise if I used Linux or FreeBSD or Solaris instead. It's the problem that the --bwlimit option on rsync exists to solve. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk, and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:44:43PM +0200, iz wrote: > > >From: David Cantrell > > >> >I'd like to rate-limit get_iplayer so that other things on the same > > >> >machine that are also talking to the internet don't run like stunned > If you are using OS X, this approach worked for me: > https://dreness.com/blog/archives/843 > > Just change "dummynet out" to "dummynet in" and change the bandwidth limit to > desired value. Excellent, thanks! That looks like a very nice solution. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk, and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:46:51PM +0100, RS wrote: > >From: David Cantrell Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 23:37 > >I'd like to rate-limit get_iplayer so that other things on the same > >machine that are also talking to the internet don't run like stunned slugs > >in treacle. > >Second, I'm not using Linux. > You don't say which non-Linux operating system you are using. Your > description doesn't correspond with any version of Windows, 32 bit or 64 > bit Yes, it does. This would affect Windows just as much as any other OS. > I have used except maybe Windows 3.1. Here downloading HLSHD with > get_iplayer at speeds up to 80Mbit/s on an elderly 2.33GHz Core 2 Duo with > 4GByte of RAM in 64 bit Windows 10 Home and a 10/100 LAN card gave a CPU > usage of between 20% and 52% and memory usage barely above background. How > much RAM have you got? CPU and RAM are not the limiting factors. Network bandwidth is. Other stuff is slowing down because it's waiting to send or receive packets. -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire fdisk format reinstall, doo-dah, doo-dah; fdisk format reinstall, it's the Windows way ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync
On 2016-08-15, 18:08, John Bingham wrote: On 15/08/16 17:42, David Cantrell wrote: I think that's unlikely. That said, if someone were to add rate-limiting options to get_iplayer I'd be very happy. Fairly easy to slow down everything on a Linux interface. If anyone has the time/inclination, maybe worth investigating the tc command. Two things. First, slowing down *an entire interface* is exactly what I don't want. I'd like to rate-limit get_iplayer so that other things on the same machine that are also talking to the internet don't run like stunned slugs in treacle. Second, I'm not using Linux. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Future of get-iplayer when BBC changes licence
On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 06:52:14PM +0100, John Bray wrote: > Do you know how the BBC will enforce there new online licence rules? I expect that they'll enforce it the same way as they do now for live streaming via iPlayer, and the same way as they do for receiving broadcast television. That is, they'll rely on honesty. > If they introduce an account system where you have quote an address, > licence, or over 75 dispensation, how can the program continue to work > from the Linux command line, as I've so enjoyed using it for a decade. If they were to demand all that information before allowing people to use iPlayer in a web browser it would then set a cookie. Receiving, recording, and using a cookie in a command line program is trivial although it would of course require changes to allow you to submit the necessary information. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Your call is important to me. To see if it's important to you I'm going to make you wait on hold for five minutes. All calls are recorded for blackmail and amusement purposes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC Licensing Expose
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 08:57:10AM +, Chris J Brady wrote: > If you thought that the BBC employed th*gs to collect licence fees then you > are right. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4262202/BBC-s-TV-licence-bullies-exposed.html Do you have an actual news source instead of a rabidly anti-BBC scandal-sheet that likes to publish pictures of scantily-clad young teenage girls who are "all grown up now"? -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" Us Germans take our humour very seriously -- German cultural attache talking to the Today Programme, about the German supposed lack of a sense of humour, 29 Aug 2001 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Replacement for "aactomp3" option?
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 06:31:37AM +0100, skyma...@gmail.com wrote: > I understand that the "aactomp3" option is being removed in the next release > of GiP. I rely on this to download audio drama in MP3 format. Can anyone > advise me what it can be replaced by, please? I run GiP on Windows 10. If you can't use AAC format files (typically ending in .m4a) then there are a zillion different tools for converting to mp3. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice "IMO, the primary historical significance of Unix is that it marks the time in computer history where CPUs became so cheap that it was possible to build an operating system without adult supervision." -- Russ Holsclaw in a.f.c ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 04:36:19PM -0500, artisticforge . wrote: > I listen to BBC Radio off the internet. > As to which stations it depends on the day of the week and the time of day. > Sunday is Radio Cumbria, Radio Kent, Radio Lincolnshire, Radio Stoke and > Radio Wales. > > Asking for location makes no sense to me. Ah, right, so just because it isn't helpful for your particular unusual case they shouldn't do it. By the same argument they should close down all of those radio stations because of the unusual case of someone who is completely deaf. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic optimisation. Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote: > "I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when I > decide." And then there are normal people who aren't geeks. They're who smart TVs exist for. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information The Law of Daves: in any gathering of technical people, the number of Daves will be greater than the number of women. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:22:57PM +0100, RS wrote: > >From: David Cantrell > >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 14:07 > >>Asking for location makes no sense to me. > >Ah, right, so just because it isn't helpful for your particular unusual > >case they shouldn't do it. > It makes no sense for the purposes set out on the registration page because > the iPlayer already has a much more useful facility to allow the user to > select which regional or local programmes are to be presented regardless of > location. In addition it makes a fairly good guess at location. As far as This isn't an iPlayer login though, it's used in lots of other bits of the BBC's online stuff. It makes sense for the iPlayer people to re-use what already exists. And I can't see where it makes a guess at location at all. All I can get out of it is a list of stations. For those who are into crappy radio I expect it would be useful for it to at least be able to pick a sensible default while also letting them pick something else if they wish. Bearing in mind that most people don't want to listen to Radio Cumbria one day then Radio Kent the next. > I am aware there are no regional or local television or radio stations > which serve a single post code. You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point. Each station serves a long list of postcodes, and you can't use anything else that people are expected to know, like the name of their home town, to reliably pick a local radio station. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive The word "urgent" is the moral of the story "The boy who cried wolf". As a general rule I don't believe it until a manager comes to me almost in tears. I like to catch them in a cup and drink them later. -- Matt Holiab, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: So what does this really mean
On 2016-09-16, 21:03, michael norman wrote: Are we not OT with this ? Hi, welcome to the internet. It's a place where people talk about things and there is topic drift. I'm afraid that if you don't learn to put up with it you're going to get very upset very quickly. (Why is this the only one out of hundreds of mailing lists I'm on where people care so much about topic drift?) -- David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet People from my sort of background needed grammar schools to compete with children from privileged homes like ... Tony Benn -- Margaret Thatcher ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: So what does this really mean
On 2016-09-16, 19:16, RS wrote: I am not convinced by the argument that European copyright licences would be much more expensive because 38% of the EU population speak English as an additional language. People want to watch television in their mother tongue. 13% of the EU population have English as their mother tongue, the same as Italian. For German the figure is 18%. German broadcasters are very liberal at making their television channels freely available. The Italians make SD RA1, RAI2 and RAI3 available unencrypted. Have you seen the quality of TV programming in Italian and German? THAT is why they want English content, and also why their own content is not worth protecting. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig NANOG makes me want to unplug everything and hide under the bed -- brian d foy ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: So what does this really mean
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 04:39:53PM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote: > I realise that there is are rites issues and it is not just the BBC or tv, > they tried region coding dvds it doesn't work, with gobal movement of people > the whole rites thing needs a rethink. Actually it does work. It doesn't need to be 100% effective, it just needs to be *sufficiently* effective. Many years ago, for example, I worked for the BBC on some very early Olympic online streaming. The International Olympic Committee were happy if our geographic blocking had an error rate of 10%. That is, if someone from outside the area we had rights for tried to access it they were happy with a 90% change of them being blocked. If a tiny number of geeks can circumvent the restrictions by using VPNs, or hiring a server in the UK, or using VLC to watch a DVD, that really doesn't matter. What matters is blocking the masses. -- David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing There is no one true indentation style, But if there were K would be Its Prophets. Peace be upon Their Holy Beards. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On 2016-09-29, 17:19, RS wrote: From: David Cantrell As far as I am aware there are no regional or local television or radio stations which serve a single post code. You're right, but you are also, I think, deliberately missing the point. Each station serves a long list of postcodes, and you can't use anything else that people are expected to know, like the name of their home town, to reliably pick a local radio station. I find it difficult to understand how anyone would want to catch up from a radio station whose name he or she did not know. Did you not know that iPlayer also lets you listen/watch live? It's not just for catch up. Personally I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to *any* local radio, but given that some people do, I expect that there exist people who want to listen to their local radio station online. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017
On 2016-10-01, 10:58, Peter Corlett wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote: It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to ensure what you buy works as it should. They may 'subcontract' that to the makers, who in turn may commission someone else to deal with it. The BBC try to give info well in advance to makers and those who offer 'smart TV' boxes. Its then their job to handle it. Not the BBC's. I must disagree. The BBC has historically maintained broadcasting in standards long after they had become obsolete. BBC2 launched in the new 625 line service in 1964 and the BBC had internally migrated everything to this new standard by 1969. The BBC maintained a downconverted 405 line service until 1985. It was supposedly only scrapped because they needed to bring the service down for maintenance for a while, and received no complaints. On the other hand they stopped broadcasting analogue TV signals, and some people complained, and those complaints were ignored. Some people received help converting, but that was a DCMS scheme, the BBC was only the administrator of the scheme. Maintaining and running a a large number of versions of a piece of software and everything that surrounds it for long periods of time while also upgrading it to provide new features for new users is just not practical. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive Please stop rolling your Jargon Dice and explain the problem you are having to me in plain English, using small words. -- John Hardin, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC iPlayer RSS feeds including signed/audio-described
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 07:57:24PM +0200, Mike Ralphson wrote: > ... unofficial BBC iPlayer RSS adaptor ... Oh wow, how did I miss these? Thanks! > Please report any issues at https://github.com/mermade/bbc-rss And thanks for publishing the source too - I expect I'll be able to use that to resurrect my keyword search RSS feeds. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC iPlayer RSS feeds including signed/audio-described
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 04:44:10PM +0200, Mike Ralphson wrote: > David Cantrell wrote: > >And thanks for publishing the source too - I expect I'll be able to use > >that to resurrect my keyword search RSS feeds. > You can generate any keyword-search based RSS feed dynamically at > https://bbc-rss.herokuapp.com/rss/custom/search%20term.rss > Just remember to URL encode the search term as above (i.e. replacing spaces > with %20). Even better, looks like I won't have to write any code :-) Except that ... https://bbc-rss.herokuapp.com/rss/custom/ancient%20greece.rss gives ... " Application Error An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. Please try again in a few moments. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details. " Sorry if it was me what broke it! -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence Hail Caesar! Those about to vi ^[ you! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC iPlayer RSS feeds including signed/audio-described
On 2016-10-26, 18:34, Mike Ralphson wrote: David Cantrell wrote: Even better, looks like I won't have to write any code :-) Except that ... https://bbc-rss.herokuapp.com/rss/custom/ancient%20greece.rss gives ... Application Error Sorry if it was me what broke it! Hmm, that link seems to be working fine now. Can you re-test it? Yep, working now. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to poor lifestyle choices, is more likely to get arse cancer than a normal person ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC Pay to Hear
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 08:50:21AM +, CJB wrote: > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ No, the BBC did not conspire with immigrants to cause house price cancer. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist What a lovely day! Now watch me spoil it for you. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
[OT] Crystal Palace transmitter problems?
Does anyone know if there are problems with the Crystal Palace transmitter at the moment? I can't receive any of BBC 1/2/4, and haven't been able to for a coupla days now. The ITV channels seem to be OK (apart from the content, of course, which is all terrible :-) so if there is a problem it looks like it's just the BBC's multiplex that's affected. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [OT] Crystal Palace transmitter problems?
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 03:55:51PM -, RS wrote: > check your aerial. Try retuning channel 23 manually. Tried that, doesn't help. But I also see in EyeTV that while I'm getting a really strong signal it's very low quality, so I suppose there must be something interfering locally. Bugger. I'll try moving the aerial around and stuff when I get home. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information There are two kinds of security, the one that keeps your sister out, the one that keeps the government out and the one that keeps Bruce Schneier out. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC RSS adaptor changes
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:25:38AM +0100, Mike Ralphson wrote: > Following the BBC's (temporary?) disabling of the /programmes API JSON feed, > I've moved the BBC-RSS adaptor here (https://bbc-rss.herokuapp.com) to a new, > but slower, feed (thankfully not having to resort to scraping). How did you manage to get a Nitro API key? https://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro still says that it's only open for registration to BBC employees. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Deck of Cards: $1.29. "101 Solitaire Variations" book: $6.59. Cheap replacement for the one thing Windows is good at: priceless -- Shane Lazarus ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New radio PIDs, more than 8 characters - "solved"
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 04:16:33PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > as for arcane-ness of language and difficulty in reading > it's about on a par with The Bible! That's what everyone thinks about languages that they are too damned lazy to learn. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world Erudite is when you make a classical allusion to a feather. Kinky is when you use the whole chicken. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New radio PIDs, more than 8 characters - "solved"
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 03:06:51PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > Yes, I was aware of \b support in some languages, but RE support varies > across languages, and, knowing this but not being experienced in PERL, I > checked at least two online sources for PERL REs and could find no evidence > of support for it. The first two google results for "perl regular expression" not good enough for you :-) BTW, it's Perl or perl, not PERL. Perl is the name of the language, perl is the name of the interpreter. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age If you have received this email in error, please add some nutmeg and egg whites, whisk, and place in a warm oven for 40 minutes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New radio PIDs, more than 8 characters - "solved"
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 04:57:30PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > But, since you are obviously spoiling for a fight, why should anyone listen > to someone who has confessed to being a part of putting all that massive > bloat in BBC web pages [citation needed] > presumably therefore you will feel at home > bloating my spam folder henceforth. Bye, bye. Awww, poor baby who can't bear to hear that he's wrong. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig I think the most difficult moment that anyone could face is seeing their domestic servants, whether maid or drivers, run away -- Abdul Rahman Al-Sheikh, writing on 25 Jan 2004 at http://www.arabnews.com/node/243486 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: The XML feeds are dead.
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:17:48PM +0100, Roger Tricker wrote: > I hoped my limited downloads would work. I entered the PID in the Quick URL > box, selected radio and clicked the record button. > This is what I got. Is that it? > > WARNING: Could not download programme metadata from > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qjnv.xml > > ERROR: Failed to get version pid metadata from iplayer site That appears to be a series or brand pid. If you supply the pid of an individual episode it still works. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "topless karaoke murders" You can't spell AWESOME without ME! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Help text query
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 06:22:35PM +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi David, > > > If your distribution handles PPAs, there is little point, but if it > > > does not, it could be very handy. > > Not really. I have no idea what a PPA is so I presume that my OSes > > don't handle them. I just regularly 'brew update;brew upgrade' on OS X > > and 'apt-get update;apt-get upgrade' on Linux. > A PPA is one place for apt-get to fetch packages from. > If you find apt-get update gives you 3.00, 3.01, etc., soon after > they're released, then you pulling their packages from somewhere other > than a stable Ubuntu 2016-10, etc., that wouldn't update much once > released; that might be a PPA you've told it about in the past. Oh, so it's just Hipster for "third-party repository". -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire One person can change the world, but most of the time they shouldn't -- Marge Simpson ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Help text query
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 01:56:03PM +0100, Martin Powell wrote: > Does anyone think reinstating the -u flag would be a good idea?? No. > If your distribution handles PPAs, there is little point, but if it does > not, it could be very handy. Not really. I have no idea what a PPA is so I presume that my OSes don't handle them. I just regularly 'brew update;brew upgrade' on OS X and 'apt-get update;apt-get upgrade' on Linux. > I'm in the process of moving from Mint (with PPAs) to PCLinuxOS (No > PPAs) so the update would be nice. PCLinuxOS's web page is confusing, it says that it uses APT (from Debian) but also that they have loads of RPM packages. Either way, better to just add a suitable package repository and use that instead of each application supplying its own update tool. -- David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to poor lifestyle choices, is more likely to get arse cancer than a normal person ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: A bug in get_iplayer-3.01?
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 01:03:26PM +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Richard, > > > The function/procedure/subroutine parameters I have difficulty with > > are ones of the form > > my $string = shift; > > I am inclined to agree with MrBrightside's comment in stackoverflow. > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7082811/what-does-assigning-shift-to-a-variable-mean > > "Forgive me but this seems like the worst convention ever for code > > readability." > No, it's fine if you know the Unix programming environment. Never mind the Unix programming environment, it's fine if you have even the slightest familiarity with perl. Shift is a keyword in the language. You might as well complain about a C program using 'void' or 'case'. As for readability, would you prefer this? my $string = $_[0]; @_ = @_[1 .. $#_]; cos that's how you avoid using shift. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age What is the difference between hearing aliens through the fillings in your teeth and hearing Jesus in your heart? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 11:16:20PM +0100, RS wrote: > The BBC and other broadcasters transmit many films on HD satellite channels > at 1080i 25fps with AC3 sound at bit rates up to 9Mbit/s if my satellite > receiver is to be believed. I don't recall having seen any 50fps films > being broadcast. Why not, if increasing the frame rate yields greater > improvement than increasing resolution on large screens? I would presume that that's because the source material isn't available in anything approaching 50fps. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive While researching this email, I was forced to carry out some investigative work which unfortunately involved a bucket of puppies and a belt sander -- after JoeB, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Problems downloading subtitles
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 09:14:04PM -0500, artisticforge . wrote: > It would appear that when the BBC killed XML files, subtitles were also > killed. They're still available on the iPlayer website, so hopefully someone will be able to work out where they're coming from and update get_iplayer. -- David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet Guns aren't the problem. People who deserve to die are the problem. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Channel 4 downloading OT
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:10:05PM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote: > I I know that this is slightly OT but I have noticed that the new > Android "All 4" now supports downloading programs, I was just > wondering if this opens an opportunity for using a modified version of > get_iplayer to download Channel 4 programs. FWIW I just opened a ticket with Youtube-dl to support Channel 4: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/14276 -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire There are two kinds of security, the one that keeps your sister out, the one that keeps the government out and the one that keeps Bruce Schneier out. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: A few ffmpeg queries
On 2017-09-11 15:41, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote: On 2017-09-08 00:07, Alan Milewczyk wrote: ... as I can access my home PC during my annual 4 months in the Philippines I am able to organise recording schedules from over 7000 miles away!) How on earth do you catch up with 4 months' worth of unwatched programmes when you come back, though? I dunno about Alan, but I too have remote access to the machine I use for recording TV stuff. And having remote access to make it record stuff also means I have remote access to watch the results. On which subject - there's a new channel on Freeview called FreeSports. But it doesn't show up in EyeTV on my Mac, using an Elgato Diversity tuner. Anyone have any suggestions to fix that? No, re-scanning the channel list didn't help. -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: ffmpeg issue?
On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 01:28:18PM +0100, Hugh Reynolds wrote: > Using PVR on Windows I get: > > WARNING: Your version of ffmpeg () does not support conversion of hvf Judging from the empty brackets where I would expect to see the version number I imagine that it can't find your ffmpeg. > But my ffmpeg is much newer than that. > Inspecting ffmpeg I get: > C:\Program Files (x86)\get_iplayer\utils>ffmpeg - version > ffmpeg version 3.3.3 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers > built with gcc 7.1.0 (GCC) > > Is there a simple way to resolve this? I expect that that directory isn't in your $PATH, or whatever the Windows equivalent is. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic Did you know that shotguns taste like candy canes? Put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger for an extra blast of minty goodness! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: recording quality and vpn
On 27/08/2017 14:18, cc wrote: can the use of a vpn limit the number of recording qualities available? Although I managed to get1280.x720 def on 25 aug with - -tvdefault in the command line, it is now proving impossible for the various downloads I have tried. Only if the BBC are deliberately breaking it for customers of your VPN provider. -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Dr. Who Downloads
On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 03:26:00AM +0100, michael norman wrote: > On 05/06/18 21:43, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > >On 05/06/2018 20:56, Jimmy Aitken wrote: > >>--pid b0074drw > >Hmmm, well using "get_iplayer --pid b0074drw" on GIP3.14 and Win7 x64 > >Ultimate, that episode downloaded successfully, no problems whatsoever. > As it did here using GIP3.14 and Linux Mint 18.3. I've had this happen a few times recently when trying to download radio stuff, only for it to Just Work a few days later. Not really sure what's going on. youtube-dl can also handle iPlayer, so try that instead. You'll probably want to say this: $ youtube-dl --list-formats https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074drw [it spews all the available formats, with resolutions] $ youtube-dl -f your_chosen_format https://... Note that sometimes it spits out audio-only and video-only formats, as well as ones that contain both. If you want to pick a particular audio and video format and combine them ... $ youtube-dl -f video_format+audio_format https://... Very occasionally *only* video formats are available for radio programmes. You want the -x option to make it DTRT with those. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Do not be afraid of cooking, as your ingredients will know and misbehave -- Fergus Henderson ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Downloading Podcast?
On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 09:26:48AM +, RS wrote: > That is my recollection too, although I think the ability to download > clips was removed more recently than that to download podcasts. IIRC clips can still be downloaded, just not clips of podcasts. As far as iPlayer is (well, was when I worked on it, IIRC, BBQ, LOLCATS) concerned, a clip is just an episode with the 'is_clip' attribute set. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: pid format changed
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:13:56PM -0700, r...@kells.com wrote: > I noticed that today on r3 that the programme pids now start with 'm' > and have reset, e.g. 'm6p1'. In the past pids began with 'b' or 'p' There are also PIDs out there beginning with w, r, and c. > Just a curiosity, but anybody know why? Each of the different initial letters corresponds to a different authoritative source of unique identifiers. A new initial letter means that there is a new Thingy generating PIDs. That letter being m probably relates to the name of a piece of software internal to the BBC or to an organisational unit of the BBC or the name of some third party whose services they use. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig You can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Wimbledon Today?
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 05:09:26PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > It's ridiculous. Day 3 parts 1 and 3 were made available overnight but > part 2 took a long time not until the morning. And as you say Day 2 part > 1 is still not available. On the Beeb's programme issues page > (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/programme-availability/programme-issues/wimbledon_day2): > > "We're aware that *Wimbledon Day 2, Part 1*, broadcast on BBC Two on > Tuesday 3 July, is not yet available on BBC iPlayer. > > We're looking into this and we'll update this FAQ with any further > information. " > > I've never known it so bad. You've obviously not been paying attention to people whining about things not being instantly available before on this very mailing list. -- David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet European immigration: making Britain great since AD43 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: No Wimbledon Today?
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 05:27:53PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > On 06/07/2018 13:48, David Cantrell wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 05:09:26PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > >>I've never known it so bad. > >You've obviously not been paying attention to people whining about > >things not being instantly available before on this very mailing list. > Uh? Hot weather getting to you? ;-) "It" referred to Wimbledon > programmes as that was the subject under discussion. It's reasonable to have assumed that "it" referred to content taking a while to show up on iplayer in general, not just restricted to tennis. -- header FROM_DAVID_CANTRELLFrom =~ /david.cantrell/i describe FROM_DAVID_CANTRELLMessage is from David Cantrell scoreFROM_DAVID_CANTRELL15.72 # This figure from experimentation ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: FAO BBC: Same Series and Episode, Differents PIDs and Description.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:02:30AM +, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > There's been much weirdness recently in get_iplayer's tv.cache due to > what's being published by the BBC AFAICS. > > The latest example, I have some older more complex ones to write up, is > PIDs b09wc2m1 and b09wbylq are both S02E01 of _The Repair Shop_, but > with different descriptions. The `short' one is > > b09wc2m1: Antique photography expert Brenton West repairs a camera > that survived World War I. > > b09wbylq: A Boulle-work clock, a much-loved wheeled elephant and a > 300-year-old desk are in the shop My assumption would be that they are different versions of the same episode, with one cut for length for eg a repeat. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world You may now start misinterpreting what I just wrote, and attacking that misinterpretation. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 01:45:50PM +0100, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > Notwithstanding this, Charles was making the point that, from time to > time, in a series we might have some programmes at one mode and others > at another mode. Some consistency across a series should not be too much > to ask for! Could it be that some episodes contain archive footage that is available only in some resolutions? -- David Cantrell | Pope | First Church of the Symmetrical Internet Guns aren't the problem. People who deserve to die are the problem. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906
On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 11:58:44PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > And that's not to mention the absurdity of not being allowed to download > a 40-50 year old B version of 'Pride & Prejudice', or the 50 year old > 'Funny Girl' & 43 year old 'Funny Lady', because of rights issues - > how many extra DVD sales do the rights holders expect to get by > disallowing this? The BBC has no choice but to respect the rights holders rights, and if they didn't get online rights for the content then they *can't* put the stuff online. You could argue that they jolly well ought to get those rights, but then you have three issues. First, the owner of those rights can say "ooh, we never knew this was worth anything to anybody, we demand one blion spondulicks" and refuse to see reason and accept that Grandpa's work is just not worth much. Second, tracking down the current owner of the rights is Hard after that long, given that companies have been liquidated, gone out of business, been bought and sold, and that people have died and left their rights (often not listed in detail) to heirs who will often have died themselves (leaving even fewer details about the rights they inherited from their parents). Third, the BBC doesn't have complete records of who owned the rights half a century ago which makes the second problem even harder. Back then no-one knew that anyone would care. And when they do have records they've probably not been digitised so they don't know that they have the records or where they are and certainly can't find them. That second one in particular is a major pain in the arse. I've been trying off and on for several years to track down the current owners of the copyright in a particular out of print book that I would like to re-publish. And for a book with only two authors and one publisher it should be easy compared to a TV programme with writers, actors, directors, composers, ... -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house. -- Robert A Heinlein ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Steve Backshall - Nature's Microworlds - 2 Serengeti.mp4, b01l4906
On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 03:01:11PM +0100, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > For many things, that would be true, but for the sort of big Hollywood > films that I mentioned, I doubt if there can be any doubt who the > current rights holders are. Apart from anything else, the original > rights holders are usually in the credits, and thence would be > comparatively easy to trace through to the present day, You must have missed the bit where I wrote about the difficulties of tracing the heirs of the heirs of rights-holders, and of tracking what exactly they were able to leave to their heirs and what they had sold outright and to whom. And actually the original holders are often *not* in the credits. Most works don't have the several minutes of lists of names that appear at the end of modern films. And for content that is made for TV the credits are even today very incomplete. > and, after all, > the BBC must have obtained or be obtaining the media copy that they > broadcast from somewhere of known provenance, presumably from the rights > holders themselves, or someone acting on their behalf. Wherever they're getting them from may not have rights for online dissemination to the public, which just gets us back to the previous problem. Broadcast rights and online rights are not the same thing. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason not to give it-- Agatha Christie ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Format of options file
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 09:52:53AM +, RS wrote: > Essentially you seem to be saying I can't have a CR in a Linux text file > because it is non-standard. It seems a strange standard that prevents > data interchange rather than facilitates it. Yes, it is strange that Microsoft chose a non-standard line ending convention. In this case though we can't really blame them as they were just copying CP/M. CP/M chose its line ending convention in 1974, a few years after Unix chose its convention. -- David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing Immigration: making Britain great since AD43 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Format of options file
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 07:59:52PM +, RS wrote: > You're right I am a bit confused, but not about the line termination > conventions for each OS, although I can't speak for the Mac. Macs use \n like normal Unix machines. They used to use \r in the bad old days before they went Unixy. -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig You know you're getting old when you fancy the teenager's parent and ignore the teenager -- Paul M in uknot ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Format of options file
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 08:04:09PM +, RS wrote: > It's worse than I thought. I had got the impression from the perlport > perldoc that if replaced \n with \012 in a print statement I would get a > LF on its own in Windows. I don't. If I insert \015 I can have a CR on > its own, but \012 is still replaced with CR LF. > > This article > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=binmode > says I can use binmode, so that may be an answer. It's quite old, so it > may no longer apply. binmode does still work AFAIK, but a more modern and flexible method is to use the crlf I/O layer, which is documented here: https://perldoc.perl.org/PerlIO.html Note however that an awful lot of perl code just doesn't bother. Windows is very much a second-class citizen in the perl world. -- David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you're reading it in English, thank Chaucer. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: OT VM or Dual boot and get_iplayer
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 05:34:26AM +, Geoff Smith wrote: > I am at a loss to understand why anyone uses dual-booting, it's an > archaic method. I gave it up a decade ago to enjoy the advantages of > using VMs. It's still useful when you want to run software that really cares about timing (video games, music and video production, controlling external hardware), or needs to talk directly to hardware such as drivers for obscure equipment. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Dual boot and get_iplayer
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:45:02AM +, Charles Johnson wrote: > On 29/10/2018 20:39, RS wrote: > >That is not the end of the problem. Ralph also pointed out that if > >Perl thought it was running under Windows > I know very little Perl, but i'm surprised it should care about line > separators. In Java, one of the oldest classes for reading text files > (BufferedReader) doesn't care what line separators it finds. Roughly > speaking it will split on /[\r\n]+/ (though not via regex) and will will > thus read the text files of any platform correctly. Surely there's at > least a module that will do the same in Perl? In perl the default is to assume the local machine's line seperator. You can of course change this. There's probably something on the CPAN that will wrap it up all neat and tidy so that you don't have to worry about writing portable code. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence There are many different types of sausages. The best are from the north of England. The wurst are from Germany. -- seen in alt.2eggs... ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Loss of BBC HD channels on satellite
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 03:46:41PM -0400, VeniVidiVideo wrote: > On Oct 18, 2018, at 3:43 PM, a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: > > On Thu 18 Oct 2018 at 20:22:12 +0100, RS wrote: > >> This is off topic since it does not concern get_iplayer or the iPlayer, so > >> if you are going to be offended please stop reading. > > Deconstruction: I know that what I am about to post has nothing to do > > with get_iplayer but I am going to force you to download it and read it. > > Don't complain or get shirty; I will ignore you because I know what is > > best for *me*. > > I also suspect that many will be offended my temerity but it's for *my* > > good, so you will have to like it or lump it. I am sure you will be > > understanding of my needs to impose on you; as you would of anyone else > > who posts off-topic mails. > Better deconstruction: > Original poster politely communicates what could be vital information for > people who have a shared interest in BBC programming. > > Second poster has a stick up his butt. And is a hypocrite who deliberately posted an off-topic message, FORCING all of us to download it and read it. -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to catch TB than a normal person ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Poodcast that isn't a podcast
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 04:24:34PM +, Bill Denton wrote: > I similarly convert radio programmes on Linux (Ubuntu) box to RSS podcasts > using: > https://github.com/CiderMan/create_rss > > Declaration: I helped develop it. If I'd know that existed I would probably have used it instead of writing mine! -- David Cantrell | even more awesome than a panda-fur coat If I could read only one thing it would be the future, in the entrails of the bastard denying me access to anything else. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Joint UK streaming platform
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:33:26AM +, RS wrote: > "The BBC, ITV and Channel 4 are already locked in negotiations to create > a joint UK streaming platform made up of new content and their back > catalogues, through a project known as Kangaroo 2." > > Does anyone know anything about it? I found this. > https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018/05/10/ofcom-predicts-kangaroo-2-collaboration-between-uk-broadcasters/ The original Kangaroo was scaled back (it became Youview) because OFCOM thought it was anti-competitive. Does Youview even exist any more? I don't recall ever seeing it in the wild after I did quite a bit of annoying work to publish programme information to it from the iPlayer back-end. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age Anyone willing to give up a little fun for tolerance deserves neither ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Poodcast that isn't a podcast
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 05:51:00PM -, George Eycott wrote: > Sadly not as simple as that. The last podcast was a short piece telling me > that it was no longer available as a podcast and was now exclusively through > BBC Sounds. What I do for the occasional interesting series that Auntie doesn't make available as a podcast is I download the episodes using get_iplayer and make them into a podcast myself. You may find this useful: https://github.com/DrHyde/perlscripts/blob/master/mkpodcasts.pl Use cron to schedule regular downloaded with --pid-recursive to automagically pick up any new episodes. -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Stopping a download but not a PVR run
On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 01:51:18PM +, CJB wrote: > The web PVR was downloading a file when the connection broke: > > WARNING: Unexpected size for file segment [232] > WARNING: Expected: 268088 Downloaded: 203190 > WARNING: This indicates a problem with your network connection to the > media server > WARNING: Retrying radio: > > How can I stop such a download but still let the PVR carry on? I don't use the PVR, but I occasionally see such messages from the normal get_iplayer. IME it just retries and I end up with a complete download. Only very occasionally is there an actual problem, and it gives up after a few retries. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information Nuke a disabled unborn gay baby whale for JESUS! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slightly OT Video conversion
On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 12:54:20PM +0100, Dave Widgery wrote: > Several people have suggested handbrake, I did try this but gave up > when it wanted to take 7-8 hours to do the conversion, I know my > notebook is not particularly quick, but I thought that was a bit > excessive, hence the search for something else. Handbrake is a bit slow, but it is much easier to drive than ffmpeg, and seems to work on files that ffmpeg either chokes on or, worse, appears to succeed but actually produces unwatchable jerykvision. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david fdisk format reinstall, doo-dah, doo-dah; fdisk format reinstall, it's the Windows way ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 12:52:28PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: > The BBC already has Redux, which is basically a DVB-T tuner somewhere in > London ... > > iPlayer appears to be a client of Redux ... Pretty sure iPlayer isn't a Redux client. Or at least, if it is it also gets lots of content from elsewhere. For example, stuff that isn't broadcast in London: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bwr3wl/ and stuff that was never broadcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p04tspjl/ -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 08:52:54AM +, CJB wrote: > Massive storage required for this > > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6566501/BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals.html They're already storing all of it, this is just about making it available. -- header FROM_DAVID_CANTRELLFrom =~ /david.cantrell/i describe FROM_DAVID_CANTRELLMessage is from David Cantrell scoreFROM_DAVID_CANTRELL15.72 # This figure from experimentation ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: WS podcast sideffect, was Re: Grenfell Tower podcasts
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 06:51:08AM +, S Byers wrote: > Re: top and tail adverts. > > Surely advertising is against the BBC Charter - in tne UK anyway. They've always been able to promote their own content. > But when we were in Malta recently the BBC News website was heavily > advertising Vodaphone and even after reporting these intrusions to Google > they persisted and took up much of the screen display. Why on earth would you report them to Google when it's a Vodafone advert on a BBC site? In any case, they're also allowed to carry advertising on their website if you're viewing it from outside the UK. > And I do know that BBC World Service on t.v. is also heavily contaminated by > such inane adverts. . Not intended for UK audiences so again, advertising is fine. Also note that while the government made the BBC fund the World Service recently, it has historically not been funded from the licence fee. Now that it *is* funded by the licence fee we should welcome adverts on it as a way of offsetting that effective reduction in the funding available to the BBC. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Radio Comedy: Dad's Army et al ....
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 08:24:30AM +, ipla...@nutwood.net wrote: > I have been able to compare a handful of programmes of the type you > describe with the same examples which I downloaded some time ago, using > the now defunct 'Radio Downloader'. In these cases, the older downloads > were significantly longer due to the inclusion of a 'buffer' at each > end. This extra material would contain part of the last/next programme > as well as the continuity between. > > I cannot say for certain that this is always the case for 'shortened' > programmes, but it seems possible. Was there a point in Iplayer history > where cutoff timing was made more accurate? No, I don't think so. You still occasionally see new stuff appear on iPlayer with those annoying tops and tails. It's usually stuff that is broadcast live IME, where the workflow for getting it onto iPlayer involves recording it off-air. To allow for the schedule going all wibbly as things occasionally over-run those automated recordings have a bit of slack at either end. Pre-recorded stuff and repeats obviously have a different workflow normally, although they can still be recorded off-air for iPlayer sometimes. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david Arbeit macht Alkoholiker ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Feature/Changed Behaviour Request To Exclude Option
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:54:54PM +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:
> >>--exclude blah # exclude blah and *only* blah
> >>--exclude +blah # exclude blah in addition to anything else
> However, there is a problem, perhaps two, with that particular syntax in
> GiP. The first is that the exclude option is a Regular Expression, so
> the + sign has a special meaning, and gives an RE error when used as
> above.
The + sign's special meaning is "one or more of the preceding character
or group". Which means that if you see it at the beginning it can't
possibly be a valid regex, so *must* have the special meaning of "add
the rest of this to the list of exclusions".
> The possible second is that on Windows machines + is a parameter
> separator for some commands, for example COPY.
That's a special feature of those commands, not a feature of Windows.
> A tilde ~ might be a good choice for this, as, AFAIK, it is inert in
> most operating systems; that is to say, I'm not aware of any special
> meaning attached to it within > command lines.
On its own it means the current user's home directory. Followed by other
text it means that user's home directory. Followed by nonsense that
doesn't match a username it's just a tilde:
$ echo ~
/home/dc
$ echo ~root
/root
$ echo ~macfh
~macfh
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Re: Feature/Changed Behaviour Request To Exclude Option
On 2019-02-21 20:38, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Currently, if you specify an --exclude option on the command line, it overwrites any exclusions permanently specified in the options file. Would it not make more sense that any exclusions specified on the command line are *added* to those in the options file? A common idiom in other tools is to have something like: --exclude blah # exclude blah and *only* blah --exclude +blah# exclude blah in addition to anything else already # excluded Given that --exclude takes a comma-seperated list you can presumably do something like this as a work-around for the latter not being present: get_iplayer --exclude blah,`get_iplayer --prefs-show|grep exclude|sed 's/.* = //'` which will extract the relevant line from your config file and massage it into the appropriate format. -- David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice Human Rights left unattended may be removed, destroyed, or damaged by the security services. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:52:58AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > In article , MacFH - C > E > Macfarlane wrote: > > AFAICR, LibXML is a dependency of XML::Simple, and, as you suggest, on > > Ubuntu systems you install a module using apt-get. I setup and > > configure Ubuntu using a bash script, and its module list contains > > libxml2 and libxml2-dev, so most probably they're the ones you need. > > limxml2 was installed. > > I installed libxml2-dev as well, but, alas, it still doesn't work. :-/ libxml2 is a C library that the perl code wants to use. libxml2-dev is the headers for that C library so that the perl code knows how to link it. You'll need both of those in addition to the perl code. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist EINE KIRCHE! EIN KREDO! EIN PAPST! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
