Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug: Gimp 2.10.18 strips off many Exif-data from jpg-files when processing

2022-07-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2022-07-08 at 18:45 -0600, Akkana Peck wrote:
> 
> 
> Once we get to non-destructive editing using GEGL ops, I could
> imagine an EXIF field listing a set of ops used for processing.

Undo history in exif might be interesting, agreed, although i think it
remains to be seen how that'd work for e.g. brush strokes. I was
wondering if the original poster had a use for it today, though :)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug: Gimp 2.10.18 strips off many Exif-data from jpg-files when processing

2022-07-08 Thread Jacob Boerema via gimp-developer-list
On 2 Jun 2022 at 11:45, Adalbert Hanßen wrote:

> I use GNU Image Manipulation Program Version 2.10.18 on Xubuntu 20.04.4 
> LTS (64 Bit).

There have been a lot of improvements to our metadata handling after 
version 2.10.18. I would suggest trying the latest version 2.10.32, possibly as 
a flatpak, because you also need the latest exiv2 and gexiv2 for up-to-date 
metadata handling.

Besides that, camera makers are part of the problem. They introduce all 
kinds of proprietary data with every new model. It is always a race to keep 
up-to-date with new info from all brands and models.

Anyway. If an up-to-date GIMP with up-to-date metadata libraries as 
mentioned above still has problems, then the best thing to do is open an 
issue, with a zipped (or otherwise compressed) example image attached. It 
needs to be zipped, because GitLab  usually removes most metadata from 
images.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug: Gimp 2.10.18 strips off many Exif-data from jpg-files when processing

2022-07-08 Thread Akkana Peck
> On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:45 +0200, Adalbert Hanßen wrote:
> > *Suggested further improvement:* Add a new category “Gimp Processing”
> > telling about the image processing procedures applied, e.g. lighting 
> > adjustments and their parameters, color adjustment, cropping, and the
> > like in readable form.

Liam R E Quin writes:
> It's an interesting idea - how would this information be used?

Once we get to non-destructive editing using GEGL ops, I could
imagine an EXIF field listing a set of ops used for processing.
Imagine being able to save as JPEG yet still be able to load
back into GIMP and undo the last few ops. Yes, there would be some loss
of quality because of lossy compression, and it's certainly not a
substitute for saving as XCF, but I can imagine cases where it
might be useful anyway.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug: Gimp 2.10.18 strips off many Exif-data from jpg-files when processing

2022-07-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:45 +0200, Adalbert Hanßen wrote:
> 
> but not shown in Gimp, e.g. the Lens Type.
> 
> *W**hy does Gimp not show the **le**ns**type?*

Can you share a sample image?

When you export as JPEG make sure "save exif" is checked!

> 
> *Suggested further improvement:* Add a new category “Gimp Processing”
> telling about the image processing procedures applied, e.g. lighting 
> adjustments and their parameters, color adjustment, cropping, and the
> like in readable form.

It's an interesting idea - how would this information be used?

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[Gimp-developer] Bug: Gimp 2.10.18 strips off many Exif-data from jpg-files when processing

2022-07-08 Thread Adalbert Hanßen
I use GNU Image Manipulation Program Version 2.10.18 on Xubuntu 20.04.4 
LTS (64 Bit).


I open an image from my camera PENTAX K5.

I look at *Image>Metadata>Show Meta Data>Tab Exif*.

I see a lot of technical data which don’t tell me very much, but I also 
see the camera model, autofocus settings, stop number, exposure 
correction, exposure time, stop number, ISO setting, focal length and 
other camera settings during the shot. Looking at the file with 
|gwenview|, I see there are some more Exif data, which are meaningful 
but not shown in Gimp, e.g. the Lens Type.


*W**hy does Gimp not show the **le**ns**type?*

After adjustingthe exposure or correctingthe color temperature or after 
saving the jpg file (under its old name) again, only 
Exif.Image.BitsPerSample, Exif.Image.ImageLenght, Exif.Image.ImageWidth, 
Exif.Image.ResolutionUnit, Exif.Image.Xresolution, 
Exif.Image.Yresolution and Exif.Image.ColorSpace are in the stored 
image. *Al**l others are cut off! *In Gwenview the whole set of Exif 
data is stripped off. *I consider this to be a **bug**.* Unless 
explicitly told to strip off metadata, Gimp should leave them untouched.


*Suggested further improvement:* Add a new category “Gimp Processing” 
telling about the image processing procedures applied, e.g. lighting 
adjustments and their parameters, color adjustment, cropping, and the 
like in readable form. For more complicated operations with many 
parameters, one could simply name the operation summarily, e.g. 
convolution with a filter matrix.


Kind regards

Adalbert Hanßen



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