Re: [gmx-users] Question about DNA simulation

2007-06-20 Thread George Abadir

Hi,
   No there were no dummies, and without changing the masses in the 
non-bonded parameters file it would give infinite velocities.

Regards

Maik Goette wrote:


Hi

I never had to change masses in the nb.itp and I ran lots of 
simulations with the amber-Port...Are you sure, that you had no 
dummies with mass zero or so?


REgards

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George Abadir wrote:


Hi,
Actually I think that although the .atp file seems to be used, 
the masses in the ffamberxxnb.itp file must be changed from the zero 
values to the correct ones: when I ran a simulation without changing 
them I got infinite velocities and which did nor happen when I 
changed the masses to the correct ones.

Thanks,
George

David van der Spoel wrote:


Maik Goette wrote:


David

I think, I should not contradict to one of the developers, but if 
your statement is true:
1. Where, in fact, are the masses coming from (the masses in the 
amberFF port can only be found in the atp, as far as I know)?
2. Why does GROMACS complain about missing atoms in the atp-file, 
if I add a new atom type to the nb-section?


Just out of curiosity...


Hm, no problems contradicting me at least... I presume you're right.



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Re: [gmx-users] conformational distance D4

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

ravishk kumar wrote:

Dear gmx-users,
Is it possible to calculate using gromacs, the conformational distance 
D4 (as given by (Pliska and Marinari, (1993). On heteropolymer 
dynamics)  between all possible pairs of Ca-atoms in a configuration at 
time t with the corresponding distances in the starting structure ?.


Thanks in advance
ravishk

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[gmx-users] 2nd Virial coefficient and Hydrophobic moment Calculation

2007-06-20 Thread Naser, Md Abu
Hi GMX user,

Is there anyway I can calculate 2nd virial coefficient and hydrophobic moment 
using gromacs?
I guess 2nd virial coefficient calculated somewhere in the gromacs.

Thanking you,

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[gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread priyanka srivastava
Hie all,

I am currently involved in doing a lipid-peptide
simulation under NPAT conditions. The way I have
applied NPAT condition is as follows:

ref_p   =  0 1
compressibility =  0.0 4.5e-5

Although while performing analysis it shows that the x
and y dimensions are constant but still I am not sure
about the way I have applied NPAT. Could somone please
tell me the basis behind it?

Another thing is I have used vdwtype: cutoff.
But my intention is not to use the twin range cutoff
at all!! In my case rlist = rcoulomb = rvdw, i.e. all
three are same!! Is this alright? (the coulombtype
=  PME)

waiting eagerly for the reply,
Pri...


   

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[gmx-users] Inclusion of an angle-angle cross term?

2007-06-20 Thread Lee-Ping
Hi there,

I'm working on fitting some force field parameters to a batch of ab-initio
single-point force calculations, and the fit still needs improvement.  I'm
thinking of including an angle-angle cross term in my custom force field,
but so far I haven't found that GROMACS can implement this.  I think that
five atom labels and three parameters are needed to describe such an
interaction; can GROMACS do this right now?  Thanks.

- Lee-Ping Wang

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[gmx-users] website problems

2007-06-20 Thread Jeroen van Bemmelen
L.S.,

Just to let you guys know, I'm experiencing some problems with the 
www.gromacs.org website. E.g.: whenever I press the 'DOCUMENTATION' 
button on the top menu I get the related page, but not the related 
submenu on the left side. And whenever I press the 'News' button on 
the main menu on the left side I get an error:

[error]
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /data/gmx/www-
gmx/administrator/components/com_sef/core/sef.mapper.php on line 431

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by 
(output started at /data/gmx/www-
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/data/gmx/www-
gmx/administrator/components/com_sef/core/sef.resolver.php on line 
609
The page you are trying to access does not exist.
Please select a page from the main menu.
[/error]

I'm working on a Windows 2000 SP4 machine with IE 6.0 SP1. Emptying 
the internet cache didn't solve it. Also tried another, similar 
machine, but same problems.

It seems to me the only way of getting to the online manpages for the 
gromacs utilities now is by using the search-option or via the Wiki. 
But the link to the latter also seems to be missing on the normal 
website(?).

Hope it helps,
Jeroen
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[gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread Sheyore Omovie
I am doing an Energy Minimisation run for two polypeptides in a box. I get 
the range checking error, variable ci=  and the simulation crashes. 
After changing ns_type to simple, the simulation is running, but very slowly 
and the first few steps return Epot=nan.

What could I have done wrong?
Rgds
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Re: [gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread Martin Höfling
Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 schrieb priyanka srivastava:

 I am currently involved in doing a lipid-peptide
 simulation under NPAT conditions. The way I have
 applied NPAT condition is as follows:

 ref_p   =  0 1
 compressibility =  0.0 4.5e-5

with semiisotropic?

 Although while performing analysis it shows that the x
 and y dimensions are constant but still I am not sure
 about the way I have applied NPAT. Could somone please
 tell me the basis behind it?

If i am remembering correctly, this is what above values should do:

first dimension is x-y second one is the z direction. Reference pressure is 1 
for both (obviously makes sense) whereas compressibility set to 0 for x-y 
plane prevents box changes in x and y direction. So only z-direction remains 
for adjusting pressure.

 Another thing is I have used vdwtype: cutoff.
 But my intention is not to use the twin range cutoff
 at all!! In my case rlist = rcoulomb = rvdw, i.e. all
 three are same!! Is this alright? (the coulombtype
 =  PME)

Sorry, didn't get that part of your question. Can you post relevant parts of 
your mdp and specify it further? Chapter 7 says that parameters for PME are 
fourierspacing and pme_order, rcoulomb should not be used then.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread Martin Höfling
Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 schrieb Sheyore Omovie:
 I am doing an Energy Minimisation run for two polypeptides in a box. I get
 the range checking error, variable ci=  and the simulation crashes.
 After changing ns_type to simple, the simulation is running, but very
 slowly and the first few steps return Epot=nan.
 What could I have done wrong?

If you're using SPC water, try to make it flexible. This helped me several 
times.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [gmx-users] website problems

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

Jeroen van Bemmelen wrote:

L.S.,

Just to let you guys know, I'm experiencing some problems with the 
www.gromacs.org website. E.g.: whenever I press the 'DOCUMENTATION' 
button on the top menu I get the related page, but not the related 
submenu on the left side. And whenever I press the 'News' button on 
the main menu on the left side I get an error:


[error]
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /data/gmx/www-
gmx/administrator/components/com_sef/core/sef.mapper.php on line 431

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by 
(output started at /data/gmx/www-
gmx/administrator/components/com_sef/core/sef.mapper.php:431) in 
/data/gmx/www-
gmx/administrator/components/com_sef/core/sef.resolver.php on line 
609

The page you are trying to access does not exist.
Please select a page from the main menu.
[/error]

I'm working on a Windows 2000 SP4 machine with IE 6.0 SP1. Emptying 
the internet cache didn't solve it. Also tried another, similar 
machine, but same problems.


It seems to me the only way of getting to the online manpages for the 
gromacs utilities now is by using the search-option or via the Wiki. 
But the link to the latter also seems to be missing on the normal 
website(?).


we're working on it.


Hope it helps,
Jeroen
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Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

Sheyore Omovie wrote:
I am doing an Energy Minimisation run for two polypeptides in a box. I 
get the range checking error, variable ci=  and the simulation 
crashes. After changing ns_type to simple, the simulation is running, 
but very slowly and the first few steps return Epot=nan.

What could I have done wrong?


It's hard to tell from your description, since an energy minimization is 
not a simulation... but please try following this general scheme 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation


Mark
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[gmx-users] temperature..

2007-06-20 Thread abhishek sharma

dear all,
i completed a simulation of copper nanoparticles.I want to observe the
change in temp during the simulation.could u please help me in
calculating the temperature of the system at the end of simulation.
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Re: [gmx-users] temperature..

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

abhishek sharma wrote:

dear all,
i completed a simulation of copper nanoparticles.I want to observe the
change in temp during the simulation.could u please help me in
calculating the temperature of the system at the end of simulation.
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Re: [gmx-users] temperature..

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

abhishek sharma wrote:

dear all,
i completed a simulation of copper nanoparticles.I want to observe the
change in temp during the simulation.could u please help me in
calculating the temperature of the system at the end of simulation.


Very funny. This is the same type of question you asked on June 17, to 
which I replied here - 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2007-June/028053.html My 
reply is the same... read section 7.4 of the manual and *work out* which 
utility might be useful for you. You might even remember some of the 
other ones so that next time you don't have to search as hard.


If you ever want to be any good in this field, you will have to work out 
how to read and learn independently. This is what a university degree 
should be teaching people. This email list is not a free consultancy 
service for asking simple questions that are easily covered in the 
manuals and tutorials. Our time is valuable, and you should respect that 
if you want some of it.


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[gmx-users] g_bundle!

2007-06-20 Thread priyanka srivastava
Dear All,

I want to calculate tilt angle of a peptide inserted
inside the lipid bilayer (i.e. angle between the
helical axis and bilayer normal). From previous posts
I got an idea that g_bundle wud solve my problem.

I am issuing the following on the command line:

g_bundle -f test.xtc -s test.tpr -na 2 -z -tu ps

This asks me to Select a group of top and a group of
bottom atoms

Group 0 (  System) has 12877 elements
Group 1 ( Protein) has   102 elements
Group 2 (   Protein-H) has79 elements
Group 3 ( C-alpha) has10 elements
Group 4 (Backbone) has31 elements
Group 5 (   MainChain) has41 elements
Group 6 (MainChain+Cb) has49 elements
Group 7 ( MainChain+H) has54 elements
Group 8 (   SideChain) has48 elements
Group 9 ( SideChain-H) has38 elements
Group10 ( Prot-Masses) has   102 elements

when I chose 1 and 1 it gives all angles as 90,
which is wrong and bun_tiltr is reported as nan. The
manual says that the program reads two index groups
and divides both of them in -na parts.
I am a lil confused! what should be my choice here?

regards,
Pri...




   

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Re: [gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread priyanka srivastava
Hie,

Many thanks for your reply.

Yes I have used semi-isotropic coupling.

Another doubt is why only a value of 4.5e-5?

I have used PME and have mentioned rcoulomb in the
.mdp file too, which as is pointed out by you, has no
meaning!! But does this mean that my mdp file is
wrong? Because if PME does not use rcoulomb it shud
simply ignore the value.
Actually I do not want to use twin range cutoff. So, I
have given rvdw = rlist. Is this alright?
Portion of my mdp file looks like this:

; Electrostatics
coulombtype =  PME
fourier_nx  =  6.4
fourier_ny  =  5.0
fourier_nz  =  8.1
pme_order   =  4
rcoulomb=  1.5
rvdw=  1.5

Also since I have not specified vdwtype in the mdp
file, so it automatically takes Cut-off.

regards,
Pri...


--- Martin Höfling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 schrieb priyanka
 srivastava:
 
  I am currently involved in doing a lipid-peptide
  simulation under NPAT conditions. The way I have
  applied NPAT condition is as follows:
 
  ref_p   =  0 1
  compressibility =  0.0 4.5e-5
 
 with semiisotropic?
 
  Although while performing analysis it shows that
 the x
  and y dimensions are constant but still I am not
 sure
  about the way I have applied NPAT. Could somone
 please
  tell me the basis behind it?
 
 If i am remembering correctly, this is what above
 values should do:
 
 first dimension is x-y second one is the z
 direction. Reference pressure is 1 
 for both (obviously makes sense) whereas
 compressibility set to 0 for x-y 
 plane prevents box changes in x and y direction. So
 only z-direction remains 
 for adjusting pressure.
 
  Another thing is I have used vdwtype: cutoff.
  But my intention is not to use the twin range
 cutoff
  at all!! In my case rlist = rcoulomb = rvdw, i.e.
 all
  three are same!! Is this alright? (the coulombtype
  =  PME)
 
 Sorry, didn't get that part of your question. Can
 you post relevant parts of 
 your mdp and specify it further? Chapter 7 says that
 parameters for PME are 
 fourierspacing and pme_order, rcoulomb should not be
 used then.
 
 Cheers
   Martin
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Re: [gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

priyanka srivastava wrote:


I have used PME and have mentioned rcoulomb in the
.mdp file too, which as is pointed out by you, has no
meaning!! But does this mean that my mdp file is
wrong? Because if PME does not use rcoulomb it shud
simply ignore the value.


As you'd see by reading sections 4.9 and 7.3.9 of the manual, Martin's 
statement isn't right. The grid dimensions are controlled by the two 
parameters he mentioned, but there are plenty of other parameters that 
influence PME.


You're right, in that if mdp file parameters will be ignored then the 
value you use isn't relevant.



Actually I do not want to use twin range cutoff. So, I
have given rvdw = rlist. Is this alright?


Yes, see section 4.6.3. This is only relevant for vdw since coulombtype 
= PME



Portion of my mdp file looks like this:

; Electrostatics
coulombtype =  PME
fourier_nx  =  6.4
fourier_ny  =  5.0
fourier_nz  =  8.1
pme_order   =  4
rcoulomb=  1.5
rvdw=  1.5


Assuming you got these values from somewhere sensible and that they're 
consistent with the force field you're using, then this will give you 
some numbers that have at least as good a chance of corresponding to 
reality as anything :-)



Also since I have not specified vdwtype in the mdp
file, so it automatically takes Cut-off.


Set it specifically, so that you don't have to remember what the default 
is in a year's time.


Mark
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[gmx-users] grompp or parameter file problem?

2007-06-20 Thread Anna Reymer

Hello all!

I am trying to simulate DNA dodecamer in TIP3P water with Amber 99 port.
I was ablle to produce dna+solvent.top (attached file) and dna+solvent.gro.
When running grompp:

grompp -f em.mdp -c dna+solvent.gro -p dna+solvent.top -o out.tpr

with the following em.mdp:
-
;   DNA energy minimization in water
;
cpp = /lib/cpp -traditional
define  =
include = -I/***/share/gromacs/top/ffamber99.itp
constraints = none
integrator  = cg
nsteps  = 1000
;
;   ENERGY MINIZATION STUFF
;
emtol   = 2000
emstep  = 0.01
nstcgsteep  = 100
nstcomm = 1
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 1
rcoulomb= 1.0
rvdw= 1.0
Tcoupl  = no
Pcoupl  = no
gen_vel = no

I get the fatal error message:
Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 448

Fatal error:
number of coordinates in coordinate file (genbox.gro, 32804)
 does not match topology (dick.top, 0)
---
Top file has all includes and its tail looks:


[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein 1
SOL 10682
-
Does somebody have similar problems? Has somebody solved them?

I will appreciate any help!

regards
/anna
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Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle!

2007-06-20 Thread Patrick Fuchs

Hi,
I wrote a program to calculate the tilt angle between a helix axis and 
the bilayer normal called g_tilt. It's available here 
http://condor.ebgm.jussieu.fr/~fuchs/download/. There you'll find also a 
program to calculate the azimuthal rotation (g_rotation).
I plan to upload these contributions on the GROMACS website when I have 
time :-)

Ciao,

Patrick

priyanka srivastava a écrit :

Dear All,

I want to calculate tilt angle of a peptide inserted
inside the lipid bilayer (i.e. angle between the
helical axis and bilayer normal). From previous posts
I got an idea that g_bundle wud solve my problem.

I am issuing the following on the command line:

g_bundle -f test.xtc -s test.tpr -na 2 -z -tu ps

This asks me to Select a group of top and a group of
bottom atoms

Group 0 (  System) has 12877 elements
Group 1 ( Protein) has   102 elements
Group 2 (   Protein-H) has79 elements
Group 3 ( C-alpha) has10 elements
Group 4 (Backbone) has31 elements
Group 5 (   MainChain) has41 elements
Group 6 (MainChain+Cb) has49 elements
Group 7 ( MainChain+H) has54 elements
Group 8 (   SideChain) has48 elements
Group 9 ( SideChain-H) has38 elements
Group10 ( Prot-Masses) has   102 elements

when I chose 1 and 1 it gives all angles as 90,
which is wrong and bun_tiltr is reported as nan. The
manual says that the program reads two index groups
and divides both of them in -na parts.
I am a lil confused! what should be my choice here?

regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella sampling of a ligand inside a pore

2007-06-20 Thread Hadas Leonov
First of all - Thank you very much for your thorough reply!

  I am having trouble defining the parameters for the simulations. As  
  I understand, I should generate many starting structures, in which
  the position of the drug differ by, say, 0.5 Angstrom apart on the z
  axis. So let's say I have 30 starting structures (protein + drug + lipid
  bilayer + water).
 
 Be sure that you generate these carefully. Don't yank them all from  
 one initial starting structure or your huge forces bay severly change  
 the structure in some instances. A stepwise method of generation would  
 be better.
What I did was to position the ligand in the center of the protein pore,
and consecutively move it by 0.5 steps along Z (both up and down until
it reaches the bulk on both sides). In each step I re-center the ligands
x,y inside the pore to avoid clashes (using nearby residues). Then, each
of the generated structure is energy-minimized. Hope it's careful
enough.


  how do I determine the best value for it?
 
 trial and error. You must have enough overlap to reduce WHAM errors.  
 However, too much overlap and you will end up prolonging simulation  
 time. But that's not too much of an issue if you have lots of cpus  
 since it won't be wasted sampling. If you understand WHAM and can code  
 yourself then you won't need to waste any data if you change force  
 constants or nominal positions half-way through. Basically if you have  
 tons of cpus then just overkill the overlap. If not, spread as many as  
 you can and then make histograms of P(rx) vs. rx and measure overlap  
 (where rx is your reaction coord. e.g. z) Then in places where there  
 is not enough overlap you should do new simulations with umbrellas  
 that are in intermediate positions.
 
 Don't like trial and error? I am sure there are better ways. Look into  
 adaptive umbrella sampling.
 
I'll probably perform trial and error before I move to more advanced
methods. Do I have to optimize the force constant for each simulation or
is it OK to use the same for all?

  Pulldim = Y Y N, since for each starting structure, the point is to see
  if it moves along x,y due to the forces acting on it by the protein.  
  As I understand, since the ligand's z position is different in each
  starting structure, we can analyze it with WHAM and calculate the PMF.
  Does that sound right, or am I completely wrong?
 
 Completely wrong. Pick a reaction coordinate and then have different  
 starting structures along that reaction coordinate and also  
 harmonically restrain to that reaction coordinate. If the reaction  
 coordinate that you want is xy then your starting structures should  
 have the xy close to their Force=0 value. In this case either give all  
 z the same value or whatever you want, but be sure to make sure that  
 this has converged. If the reaction coordinate is z then as it moves  
 along x y makes no sense since you won't get any information about  
 this.
 
That's the part I'm confused about.
The reaction coordinate is definitely the z axis. That's why I have 30
different starting structures of the ligand along Z inside the pore.
But when you configure pulldim=N N Y, you enable it to move only in the
z-axis. So you won't see movements of the ligand in the xy plane inside
the pore (surely the harmonic restraint of x and y wasn't the optimal
x,y). So isn't it better to use the default pulldim=Y Y Y in that case?

The confusing issue is that it seems we're already performing the
pulling by generating overlapping starting structures, and the remaining
question is what's the free energy when the ligand is around that
specific Z (for each Z), yet still let it move freely within XY.

  The result of a simulation with the aforementioned parameters is that
  the ligand escapes the protein *into* the lipid environment, which
  doesn't make sense. When I use K1=10, the drug does not escape the pore.
  So I'm confused here. I thought K1=1000 was supposed to put more force
  on the drug to stay in its original position.
 
 Yes, larger Fc puts more force. But what happens depends on where  
 33.482  31.225  33.173 is. Your simulation is definately in error if  
 the protein pore is at X=33.482, y=31.225 and a K1=100kJ/mol/nm^2  
 pulls it far away from that position. If so, are you sure that you  
 don't have a negative sign in the force constant?
  Any help and ideas regarding why this is wrong?
 
 You are definately confused about z vs. xy and what is your reaction  
 coordinate. I suspect that although you have ensured that z=33.173 is  
 in your pore, you did not ensure that X=33.482, y=31.225 is in your  
 pore. If this is true and you can't understand why that's a problem  
 then you need to focus on the definition of a reaction coordinate.
 
Now this feels stupid. I Forgot that gromacs uses nm units, and gave it
coordinates in Angstroms.

Thanks again,
Hadas. 

 If this is not the case and you can't figure it out, then reduce your  
 system to something 

Re: [gmx-users] Inclusion of an angle-angle cross term?

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

Lee-Ping wrote:

Hi there,

I'm working on fitting some force field parameters to a batch of ab-initio
single-point force calculations, and the fit still needs improvement.  I'm
thinking of including an angle-angle cross term in my custom force field,
but so far I haven't found that GROMACS can implement this.  I think that
five atom labels and three parameters are needed to describe such an
interaction; can GROMACS do this right now?  Thanks.


I don't think so... but check out src/gmxlib/ifunc.c and 
src/gmxlib/bondfree.c for what there is there.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] grompp or parameter file problem?

2007-06-20 Thread Yang Ye
What's the name for DNA under [ moleculetype ] in your top file?
Another question is: have you included ffamber_tip3p.itp?

Probably you need to post excerpt of your topology here if you are not sure 
about your answers towards above two questions.

Regards,
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- Original Message 
From: Anna Reymer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:57:28 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] grompp or parameter file problem?


Hello all!

I am trying to simulate DNA dodecamer in TIP3P water with Amber 99 port.
I was ablle to produce dna+solvent.top (attached file) and dna+solvent.gro.
When running grompp:

grompp -f em.mdp -c dna+solvent.gro -p dna+solvent.top -o out.tpr

with the following em.mdp:
-
;   DNA energy minimization in water
;
cpp = /lib/cpp -traditional
define  =
include = -I/***/share/gromacs/top/ffamber99.itp
constraints = none
integrator  = cg
nsteps  = 1000
;
;   ENERGY MINIZATION STUFF
;
emtol   = 2000
emstep  = 0.01
nstcgsteep  = 100
nstcomm = 1
ns_type = grid
rlist   = 1
rcoulomb= 1.0
rvdw= 1.0
Tcoupl  = no
Pcoupl  = no
gen_vel = no

I get the fatal error message:
Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 448

Fatal error:
number of coordinates in coordinate file (genbox.gro, 32804)
  does not match topology (dick.top, 0)
---
Top file has all includes and its tail looks:


[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein 1
SOL 10682
-
Does somebody have similar problems? Has somebody solved them?

I will appreciate any help!

regards
/anna
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Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread Sheyore Omovie

Hi Mark,
I'm sorry, I assume you'll understand that I've carried out all the steps 
before an EM run.
David said is because the coordinates are on top of each other, I'll 
appreciate any more specific advice on how to fix this.

Meanwhile, I'll try Martin's advice on making the water flexible.
Rgds
John



From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:09:03 +1000

Sheyore Omovie wrote:
I am doing an Energy Minimisation run for two polypeptides in a box. I get 
the range checking error, variable ci=  and the simulation crashes. 
After changing ns_type to simple, the simulation is running, but very 
slowly and the first few steps return Epot=nan.

What could I have done wrong?


It's hard to tell from your description, since an energy minimization is 
not a simulation... but please try following this general scheme 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread Sheyore Omovie

Hi,
I figured it might be neccessary to show my *.top file  and coordinate file 
(b4 solvation) so I could easily get help.

Rgds
John

;   File 'twopoly.top' was generated
;   By user: sjomovie (1028)
;   On host: bmp041.biophysics.net
;   At date: Tue Jun 19 23:12:16 2007
;
;   This is your topology file
;   Great Red Oystrich Makes All Chemists Sane
;
; Include forcefield parameters
#include ffG43a1.itp

; Include chain topologies
#include twopoly_B.itp
#include twopoly_A.itp

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
  11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include generic topology for ions
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
Great Red Oystrich Makes All Chemists Sane in water

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_B   1
Protein_A   1
SOL 314583

TITLE Great Red Oystrich Makes All Chemists Sane
REMARKTHIS IS A SIMULATION BOX
CRYST1   10.2665.7232.981  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 1   1
MODEL1

ATOM1   N   ALA B   1   -0.677  -1.23   -0.491  1   0
ATOM2   H1  ALA B   1   -1.667  -1.089  -0.491  1   0
ATOM3   H2  ALA B   1   -0.414  -1.744  -1.307  1   0
ATOM4   H3  ALA B   1   -0.414  -1.744  0.325   1   0
ATOM5   CA  ALA B   1   -0.001  0.064   -0.491  1   0
ATOM6   CB  ALA B   1   -0.509  0.856   0.727   1   0
ATOM7   C   ALA B   1   1.499   -0.11   -0.491  1   0
ATOM8   O   ALA B   1   2.065   -0.922  0.251   1   0
ATOM9   N   GLY B   2   2.311   0.711   -1.41   0
ATOM10  H   GLY B   2   1.979   1.399   -2.045  1   0
ATOM11  CA  GLY B   2   3.7 0.321   -1.173  1   0
ATOM12  C   GLY B   2   4.606   1.528   -1.169  1   0
ATOM13  O   GLY B   2   4.515   2.418   -2.019  1   0
ATOM14  N   ALA B   3   5.629   1.648   -0.12   1   0
ATOM15  H   ALA B   3   5.805   1.002   0.622   1   0
ATOM16  CA  ALA B   3   6.336   2.899   -0.378  1   0
ATOM17  CB  ALA B   3   5.719   3.979   0.528   1   0
ATOM18  C   ALA B   3   7.821   2.735   -0.164  1   0
ATOM19  O1  ALA B   3   8.258   1.505   0.219   1   0
ATOM20  O2  ALA B   3   8.599   3.831   -0.372  1   0
ATOM21  N   ALA A   4   -0.677  -1.23   -0.491  1   0
ATOM22  H1  ALA A   4   -1.667  -1.089  -0.491  1   0
ATOM23  H2  ALA A   4   -0.414  -1.744  -1.307  1   0
ATOM24  H3  ALA A   4   -0.414  -1.744  0.325   1   0
ATOM25  CA  ALA A   4   -0.001  0.064   -0.491  1   0
ATOM26  CB  ALA A   4   -0.509  0.856   0.727   1   0
ATOM27  C   ALA A   4   1.499   -0.11   -0.491  1   0
ATOM28  O   ALA A   4   2.065   -0.922  0.251   1   0
ATOM29  N   ALA A   5   2.311   0.711   -1.41   0
ATOM30  H   ALA A   5   1.979   1.399   -2.045  1   0
ATOM31  CA  ALA A   5   3.7 0.321   -1.173  1   0
ATOM32  CB  ALA A   5   4.079   -0.705  -2.254  1   0
ATOM33  C   ALA A   5   4.606   1.529   -1.169  1   0
ATOM34  O   ALA A   5   4.515   2.421   -2.021  1   0
ATOM35  N   ALA A   6   5.629   1.648   -0.119  1   0
ATOM36  H   ALA A   6   5.806   1.001   0.623   1   0
ATOM37  CA  ALA A   6   6.335   2.9 -0.377  1   0
ATOM38  CB  ALA A   6   5.718   3.979   0.529   1   0
ATOM39  C   ALA A   6   7.821   2.736   -0.163  1   0
ATOM40  O1  ALA A   6   8.258   1.506   0.219   1   0
ATOM41  O2  ALA A   6   8.599   3.832   -0.37   1   0
TER
ENDMDL





From: Sheyore Omovie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:44:32 -0500

Hi Mark,
I'm sorry, I assume you'll understand that I've carried out all the steps 
before an EM run.
David said is because the coordinates are on top of each other, I'll 
appreciate any more specific advice on how to fix this.

Meanwhile, I'll try Martin's 

Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

Sheyore Omovie wrote:

Hi Mark,
I'm sorry, I assume you'll understand that I've carried out all the 
steps before an EM run.
David said is because the coordinates are on top of each other, I'll 
appreciate any more specific advice on how to fix this.

use a molecule viewer


Meanwhile, I'll try Martin's advice on making the water flexible.
Rgds
John



From: Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] potential energy =nan
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:09:03 +1000

Sheyore Omovie wrote:
I am doing an Energy Minimisation run for two polypeptides in a box. 
I get the range checking error, variable ci=  and the simulation 
crashes. After changing ns_type to simple, the simulation is running, 
but very slowly and the first few steps return Epot=nan.

What could I have done wrong?


It's hard to tell from your description, since an energy minimization 
is not a simulation... but please try following this general scheme 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

priyanka srivastava wrote:

Hie,

Many thanks for your reply.

Yes I have used semi-isotropic coupling.

Another doubt is why only a value of 4.5e-5?

I have used PME and have mentioned rcoulomb in the
.mdp file too, which as is pointed out by you, has no
meaning!! But does this mean that my mdp file is
wrong? Because if PME does not use rcoulomb it shud
simply ignore the value.
Actually I do not want to use twin range cutoff. So, I
have given rvdw = rlist. Is this alright?
Portion of my mdp file looks like this:

; Electrostatics
coulombtype =  PME
fourier_nx  =  6.4
fourier_ny  =  5.0
fourier_nz  =  8.1

these numbers should be integers



pme_order   =  4
rcoulomb=  1.5
rvdw=  1.5

Also since I have not specified vdwtype in the mdp
file, so it automatically takes Cut-off.

regards,
Pri...


--- Martin Höfling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 schrieb priyanka
srivastava:


I am currently involved in doing a lipid-peptide
simulation under NPAT conditions. The way I have
applied NPAT condition is as follows:

ref_p   =  0 1
compressibility =  0.0 4.5e-5

with semiisotropic?


Although while performing analysis it shows that

the x

and y dimensions are constant but still I am not

sure

about the way I have applied NPAT. Could somone

please

tell me the basis behind it?

If i am remembering correctly, this is what above
values should do:

first dimension is x-y second one is the z
direction. Reference pressure is 1 
for both (obviously makes sense) whereas
compressibility set to 0 for x-y 
plane prevents box changes in x and y direction. So
only z-direction remains 
for adjusting pressure.



Another thing is I have used vdwtype: cutoff.
But my intention is not to use the twin range

cutoff

at all!! In my case rlist = rcoulomb = rvdw, i.e.

all

three are same!! Is this alright? (the coulombtype
=  PME)

Sorry, didn't get that part of your question. Can
you post relevant parts of 
your mdp and specify it further? Chapter 7 says that
parameters for PME are 
fourierspacing and pme_order, rcoulomb should not be

used then.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [gmx-users] Inclusion of an angle-angle cross term?

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

Lee-Ping wrote:

Hi there,

I'm working on fitting some force field parameters to a batch of ab-initio
single-point force calculations, and the fit still needs improvement.  I'm
thinking of including an angle-angle cross term in my custom force field,
but so far I haven't found that GROMACS can implement this.  I think that
five atom labels and three parameters are needed to describe such an
interaction; can GROMACS do this right now?  Thanks.


It won't work out of the box, but in principle it is not very difficult.
Appendix B4 describes which files to modify.
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Re: [gmx-users] Inclusion of an angle-angle cross term?

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

Lee-Ping wrote:

Hi there,

I'm working on fitting some force field parameters to a batch of ab-initio
single-point force calculations, and the fit still needs improvement.  I'm
thinking of including an angle-angle cross term in my custom force field,
but so far I haven't found that GROMACS can implement this.  I think that
five atom labels and three parameters are needed to describe such an
interaction; can GROMACS do this right now?  Thanks.

- Lee-Ping Wang

and table 5.4 shows that there already is a 5 atom interaction. 
Otherwise this is more a developer question.


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Re: [gmx-users] website problems

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

Jeroen van Bemmelen wrote:

L.S.,

Just to let you guys know, I'm experiencing some problems with the 
www.gromacs.org website. E.g.: whenever I press the 'DOCUMENTATION' 
button on the top menu I get the related page, but not the related 
submenu on the left side. And whenever I press the 'News' button on 
the main menu on the left side I get an error:


it should be fine again now. please let us know if there are further 
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Re: [gmx-users] Basic Query

2007-06-20 Thread Martin Höfling
Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2007 schrieb Mark Abraham:

 As you'd see by reading sections 4.9 and 7.3.9 of the manual, Martin's
 statement isn't right. The grid dimensions are controlled by the two
 parameters he mentioned, but there are plenty of other parameters that
 influence PME.

Oh, I didn't checked 4.9. Then of course rlist makes sense too for coulomb 
interactions with PME.

 Set it specifically, so that you don't have to remember what the default
 is in a year's time.

... and look in your own mdp file before making statements :-)

Best
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[gmx-users] Umbrella sampling of a ligand inside a pore

2007-06-20 Thread Chris Neale



What I did was to position the ligand in the center of the protein pore,
and consecutively move it by 0.5 steps along Z (both up and down until
it reaches the bulk on both sides). In each step I re-center the ligands
x,y inside the pore to avoid clashes (using nearby residues). Then, each
of the generated structure is energy-minimized. Hope it's careful
enough.
  
Sounds fine. Although I am not sure what you mean by move it If you 
are translating it and then you are going to solvate each system 
independently later then that all sounds proper.

I'll probably perform trial and error before I move to more advanced
methods. Do I have to optimize the force constant for each simulation or
is it OK to use the same for all?
  
Either is ok (as long as your WHAM implementation allows different Fc 
values (most do, but be sure that it does). Start with the same for all 
and if you are missing sampling in some region then you can add a new 
umbrella or perhaps adjust a force constant. I find it easier to predict 
what will happen when I add another umbrella.

That's the part I'm confused about.
The reaction coordinate is definitely the z axis. That's why I have 30
different starting structures of the ligand along Z inside the pore.
But when you configure pulldim=N N Y, you enable it to move only in the
z-axis. So you won't see movements of the ligand in the xy plane inside
the pore (surely the harmonic restraint of x and y wasn't the optimal
x,y). So isn't it better to use the default pulldim=Y Y Y in that case?
  
This is not true: You enable it to move only in the z-axis What you do 
with NNY is *force* it to move in the z-axis but the x and y can still 
move it's just that they find their own equilibrium.



The confusing issue is that it seems we're already performing the
pulling by generating overlapping starting structures, and the remaining
question is what's the free energy when the ligand is around that
specific Z (for each Z), yet still let it move freely within XY.
  

Exactly, but to do that you need to have pulldim=NNY. Here's why:

The accuracy and precision of computationally-derived properties are 
dependent not only on complete sampling of the relevant conformational 
space, but also on the presence of sufficient transitions between local 
minima on the energy landscape so as to provide information on the 
density of states. This implies that unrestrained computer simulations 
can adequately measure only those processes that occur at periods much 
less than the time of data acquisition. And yet, if the relevant motions 
of largest period may be determined and exhaustively sampled by means of 
a biasing potential, the time of data acquisition required from each 
individual simulation is now related to the motions of the second 
largest period. In this case you have (correctly) selected the z axis as 
the reaction coordinate along which the relevant ion motions of largest 
period will occur. You now complete a variety of simulations at varying 
positions along  z, allowing x and y to reach their own equilibrium.


If you're still confused (and even if you aren't) then try some of the 
online talks by David Mobley 
(http://www.dillgroup.ucsf.edu/group/wiki/index.php/Free_Energy:_Tutorial) 
or Alan Grossfield (http://dasher.wustl.edu/alan/talks/wham_talk.pdf) or 
there are lots of others.


Hope that helps, I am about all tapped out on general suggestions for 
this topic.


Chris.
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Re: [gmx-users] new to gromacs

2007-06-20 Thread David van der Spoel

vijay kumar wrote:

hi everyone
I am new to gromacs software all i need to do is
submit my project in 2 months first thing  i am able
to do is work with demos ,i did them perfectly but the
thing is now i need to edit the water molecule pdb
file and start a new project i.e. now i need to create
a new pdb file with 20 molecules of water ,generate a
new topology file and define mdp parameters ,can any
one please mail me the procedure to start from the
basics and where  can i find the details of this in
the Gromacs.org
the doubts is
edit a pdb file
store and retrieve it to command prompt
define mdp parameters file and use for the program
and run the simulation
please send me step by step as given in the demo of
water molecule

you want to read chap 5 of the manual
you can do all this with a text editor.



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Re: [gmx-users] new to gromacs

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

vijay kumar wrote:

hi everyone
I am new to gromacs software all i need to do is
submit my project in 2 months first thing  i am able
to do is work with demos ,i did them perfectly but the
thing is now i need to edit the water molecule pdb
file and start a new project i.e. now i need to create
a new pdb file with 20 molecules of water ,generate a
new topology file and define mdp parameters ,can any
one please mail me the procedure to start from the
basics and where  can i find the details of this in
the Gromacs.org
the doubts is
edit a pdb file
store and retrieve it to command prompt
define mdp parameters file and use for the program
and run the simulation
please send me step by step as given in the demo of
water molecule


You will find some useful material in the links from this page 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Beginners You should also follow 
David's suggestions.


Mark
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[gmx-users] rtp entry

2007-06-20 Thread ASHWINI JAYAPRAKASH
Hi Mark,
   
  Thank you for your valuable suggestion.I did go through the manual, but I 
want to confirm if I need to add the atom CA in the ffoplsaa.rtp file, and if 
so I am not sure what the appropiate  Type of angles, Type of proper dihedrals, 
Type of improper dihedrals I have to enter.
  If I choose the force field with option 0 then it gives me an error saying 
residue AIB not found in residue topology.
   
  Any help would be highly appreciated.
  Thanks,
  Aj

Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ASHWINI JAYAPRAKASH wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a new gromacs user and have problems creating a topology file using 
 the pdb2gmx command for simulating a six helix bundled alamethecin in 
 lipid bilayer.
 when I use the command :
 pdb2gmx -f almN6start -o almN6start.gro -p almN6start.top
 
 I get the error :
 
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
 Source code file: pdb2gmx.c, line: 393
 Fatal error:
 Atom CA in residue ACE 1 not found in rtp entry with 6 atoms
 while sorting atoms

This means what it says. pdb2gmx is finding a CA atom in an ACE residue 
in your coordinate file that it can't reconcile with the .rtp entry for 
ACE for the force field you're using. If this doesn't make any sense, 
you should read chapter five of the manual thoroughly. Probably the 
first four chapters are also worth reading too.

   
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Re: [gmx-users] RE:Shear viscosity/bulk viscosity

2007-06-20 Thread Mark Abraham

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Dear Gromacs Users,


When I use the command

g_energy_d  -vis -f  *.edr 
 
files such as, evisco.xvg and visco.xvg are generated. evisco.xvg have 4

columns and viso.xvg has 2 colums. Can you please let me know what they
are, as I failed to find the explanations in 6.5 of the manual and the
paper published in the Journal of chemical physics 116:209-217, 2002. 


Thanks for letting us know how you've tried to solve the problem. Do the 
comments on the top of the .xvg file clarify this?


Mark
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