OT: Google humor
http://www.google.com/search?q=recursion Watch out for spelling mistakes. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: Google humor
Nice. Reminds me of that old C book, the original one from way back. The index listed all the pages for the word recursion including that page of the index. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Ben Scottdragonh...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=recursion Watch out for spelling mistakes. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly in the office AND home office environment. I'm not really a traveller - so I don't have to do the 'road warrior' thing. However, I do want to be able to work in multiple locations. I was going to buy a notebook (Lenovo T500 ~ $1200) with docking station ($200) plus keyboard and monitor ($400), but I'm wondering what other people think. Does anyone just use a desktop, with screen plus sshfs? Does anyone just use an external USB drive + using synchronization software? Does anyone just use a service like Dropbox? Obviously without the notebook to move around, you have to maintain applications and even the OS on multiple hardware. I think the notebook gives the best flexibility + power + least effort, but I'm just wondering what other people's experience is. -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
I find that a desktop is better than a laptop, for the home office bit at least. I don't have to wait for boot/shutdown, keep dragging power supplies out, etc. --DTVZ On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly in the office AND home office environment. I'm not really a traveller - so I don't have to do the 'road warrior' thing. However, I do want to be able to work in multiple locations. I was going to buy a notebook (Lenovo T500 ~ $1200) with docking station ($200) plus keyboard and monitor ($400), but I'm wondering what other people think. Does anyone just use a desktop, with screen plus sshfs? Does anyone just use an external USB drive + using synchronization software? Does anyone just use a service like Dropbox? Obviously without the notebook to move around, you have to maintain applications and even the OS on multiple hardware. I think the notebook gives the best flexibility + power + least effort, but I'm just wondering what other people's experience is. -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
I just bought a couple Thinkpads for a couple of our engineers, and one thing I ran into was a difference in supported screen resolutions. The T500 is 1680x1050, with no other options, whereas the W500 is available as either 1680x1050 or 1900x1200. My engineers explicitly asked for 1900x1200, so we went with W500's. For your requirements, if you'll be using it both at home and at the office, I'd suggest getting two docking stations, one for each location. That will save you the trouble of fiddling with a bunch of cables when arriving at or departing from each location. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile)g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly in the office AND home office environment. I'm not really a traveller - so I don't have to do the 'road warrior' thing. However, I do want to be able to work in multiple locations. I was going to buy a notebook (Lenovo T500 ~ $1200) with docking station ($200) plus keyboard and monitor ($400), but I'm wondering what other people think. Does anyone just use a desktop, with screen plus sshfs? Does anyone just use an external USB drive + using synchronization software? Does anyone just use a service like Dropbox? Obviously without the notebook to move around, you have to maintain applications and even the OS on multiple hardware. I think the notebook gives the best flexibility + power + least effort, but I'm just wondering what other people's experience is. -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, John Abreauj...@blu.org wrote: I just bought a couple Thinkpads for a couple of our engineers, and one thing I ran into was a difference in supported screen resolutions. The T500 is 1680x1050, with no other options, whereas the W500 is available as either 1680x1050 or 1900x1200. My engineers explicitly asked for 1900x1200, so we went with W500's. Thanks. I was frustrated by that (lack of finer resolution) on my prior T500. I'd constantly be For your requirements, if you'll be using it both at home and at the office, I'd suggest getting two docking stations, one for each location. That will save you the trouble of fiddling with a bunch of cables when arriving at or departing from each location. Agreed, it's much less hassle to use a docking station. Another option, if I have my home office already setup, is that I use synergy to at least sit in my normal position and control the laptop. On a related note, do you have people using multiple heads and the W500? I lost the capability to drive a notebook screen and external monitor __as one large desktop__ on the upgrade to Ubuntu Ibex or Jaunty -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
I will chime in on this topic. In the last few months I've purchased a Lenovo W500 and a T500, a docking station and external monitor as well as a Lenovo M57 desktop that I run headless as a Fedora 11 development platform. I connect to the M57 using tightvnc. The W50 also runs Fedora 11 like a champ with full wireless capabilities. I assume the T500 also supports linux very well, but we have kept the T500 as a windows only machine. What Greg said about screen resolution is correct WRT to the laptop LCD but both T500 and W500 support 1920 x 1080 on external monitors that are capable of this resolution. The 'switchable graphics', a feature that is on both models allows you to use the integrated graphics controller when on battery to save juice and allows you to use the discrete graphics controller for high performance when plugged in. The discrete graphics controller will handle 4 screens including the laptop LCD as an extended desktop (four portions of one huge screen), or you can duplicate screen contents if you prefer. FYI to switch between graphics modes, right click on the battery icon in the system tray to get the context menu. I purchased a wireless keyboard and mouse but find I prefer using the laptop keyboard and a bluetooth mouse (so get the bluetooth option). We also use the integrated camera for skype video calls and use the fingerprint reader instead of typing in passwords. Like Greg suggested, two docking stations are a good idea- one for home and one for the office. There are four USB connectors on the docking station so you can add disk storage this way. There are also a variety of monitor connectors on the docking station as well and of course there is an ethernet connector and just in case someone somewhere really needs it, a modem connector. Regards, Mark http://EllisonSoftware.com On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, John Abreau j...@blu.org wrote: I just bought a couple Thinkpads for a couple of our engineers, and one thing I ran into was a difference in supported screen resolutions. The T500 is 1680x1050, with no other options, whereas the W500 is available as either 1680x1050 or 1900x1200. My engineers explicitly asked for 1900x1200, so we went with W500's. For your requirements, if you'll be using it both at home and at the office, I'd suggest getting two docking stations, one for each location. That will save you the trouble of fiddling with a bunch of cables when arriving at or departing from each location. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile)g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly in the office AND home office environment. I'm not really a traveller - so I don't have to do the 'road warrior' thing. However, I do want to be able to work in multiple locations. I was going to buy a notebook (Lenovo T500 ~ $1200) with docking station ($200) plus keyboard and monitor ($400), but I'm wondering what other people think. Does anyone just use a desktop, with screen plus sshfs? Does anyone just use an external USB drive + using synchronization software? Does anyone just use a service like Dropbox? Obviously without the notebook to move around, you have to maintain applications and even the OS on multiple hardware. I think the notebook gives the best flexibility + power + least effort, but I'm just wondering what other people's experience is. -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
One other not regarding the docking station- it comes with its own power supply! On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mark Ellison elli...@ieee.org wrote: I will chime in on this topic. In the last few months I've purchased a Lenovo W500 and a T500, a docking station and external monitor as well as a Lenovo M57 desktop that I run headless as a Fedora 11 development platform. I connect to the M57 using tightvnc. The W50 also runs Fedora 11 like a champ with full wireless capabilities. I assume the T500 also supports linux very well, but we have kept the T500 as a windows only machine. What Greg said about screen resolution is correct WRT to the laptop LCD but both T500 and W500 support 1920 x 1080 on external monitors that are capable of this resolution. The 'switchable graphics', a feature that is on both models allows you to use the integrated graphics controller when on battery to save juice and allows you to use the discrete graphics controller for high performance when plugged in. The discrete graphics controller will handle 4 screens including the laptop LCD as an extended desktop (four portions of one huge screen), or you can duplicate screen contents if you prefer. FYI to switch between graphics modes, right click on the battery icon in the system tray to get the context menu. I purchased a wireless keyboard and mouse but find I prefer using the laptop keyboard and a bluetooth mouse (so get the bluetooth option). We also use the integrated camera for skype video calls and use the fingerprint reader instead of typing in passwords. Like Greg suggested, two docking stations are a good idea- one for home and one for the office. There are four USB connectors on the docking station so you can add disk storage this way. There are also a variety of monitor connectors on the docking station as well and of course there is an ethernet connector and just in case someone somewhere really needs it, a modem connector. Regards, Mark http://EllisonSoftware.com On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, John Abreau j...@blu.org wrote: I just bought a couple Thinkpads for a couple of our engineers, and one thing I ran into was a difference in supported screen resolutions. The T500 is 1680x1050, with no other options, whereas the W500 is available as either 1680x1050 or 1900x1200. My engineers explicitly asked for 1900x1200, so we went with W500's. For your requirements, if you'll be using it both at home and at the office, I'd suggest getting two docking stations, one for each location. That will save you the trouble of fiddling with a bunch of cables when arriving at or departing from each location. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile)g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly in the office AND home office environment. I'm not really a traveller - so I don't have to do the 'road warrior' thing. However, I do want to be able to work in multiple locations. I was going to buy a notebook (Lenovo T500 ~ $1200) with docking station ($200) plus keyboard and monitor ($400), but I'm wondering what other people think. Does anyone just use a desktop, with screen plus sshfs? Does anyone just use an external USB drive + using synchronization software? Does anyone just use a service like Dropbox? Obviously without the notebook to move around, you have to maintain applications and even the OS on multiple hardware. I think the notebook gives the best flexibility + power + least effort, but I'm just wondering what other people's experience is. -- Greg Rundlett nbpt 978-225-8302 m. 978-764-4424 -skype/aim/irc/twitter freephile http://profiles.aim.com/freephile ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Drew Van Zandtdrew.vanza...@gmail.com wrote: I find that a desktop is better than a laptop, for the home office bit at least. I don't have to wait for boot/shutdown, keep dragging power supplies out, etc. OT I apologize in advance if I am preaching to the quire and this is just a super-low-power appliance-like machine that runs all your edge routing and house hold systems while you are away, but Dude! Shut that thing off when you are not using it! Global Warming, Peak Oil, national security... All of those are relevant, but in case you choose not to believe in any two of them, any one of them should be enough to get you to change your habits. If you don't have kids, do it for my kids, eh? /OT Ubuntu is making great strides in boot time. Also, I saw my Ibex boot time cut in about half (discarding BIOS and GRUB pause) when I installed a Kingston SATA SSD in my laptop running Ibex. (SSD is also good for reducing energy use.) Jaunty is quicker, but does not like my hardware. I have high hopes for Karmic Koala which is suppose to load in less than 10 seconds off disk (YMMV). Just enough time to plug in your power cable if you are quick. ;-) -- Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile)g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly One of these (http://www.openmoko.com/product.html), a portable HD and a couple of USB KVM docking stations? Maybe not, but some day. Then again, maybe now depending on the kind of work and the if it can support USB video adapters. Still how cool is that phone?! -- Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Power management (was: best office/home office setup)
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Johnsona...@datdec.com wrote: Shut that thing off when you are not using it! Most computers made in the past 20 years or so include power management features. Turning off the screen, spinning down the hard drives, and clocking down the CPU can be done without even stopping OS function The Linux kernel will automatically tell the CPU to suspend when it doesn't need it (HLT instruction, sent by the scheduler). Hard drive spin-down can be configured with hdparm. Screen with xset. Or the GUI tools of your choice. Of course, whether anyone uses any of this... that's another question. And, of course, things like fold...@home that also proclaim to be making a better future will counter-act CPU and (maybe) HDD savings. Suspend-to-RAM will save even more power, albeit at the cost of halting the OS. But it will wake back up within a second or so. I keep meaning to look into getting this up, and use a wake-on-LAN command from my SOHO router to wake it up for remote access. Anyone else here played with that stuff? -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Power management (was: best office/home office setup)
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: I keep meaning to look into getting this up, and use a wake-on-LAN command from my SOHO router to wake it up for remote access. Anyone else here played with that stuff? Wake on LAN works great with my Lenovo M57 running Fedora 11. It is a quad core machine and takes between three and five seconds to be ready for a tightvnc connection. I use the pm-suspend command to put the M57 into standby/sleep mode. At first there was an issue with the M57 waking up on its own each morning at 3am. Turned out this was due to the 24H Anacron check-in. Editing the /etc/crontab file fixed that. HTH, Mark ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Openmoko/Neo FreeRunner, nanocomputing (was: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter)
Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com writes: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile)g...@freephile.com wrote: Moving to a new employment position, I'm once again faced with purchasing some computer equipment. I'm wondering what hardware, software and combination people like the best for working seamlessly One of these (http://www.openmoko.com/product.html), a portable HD and a couple of USB KVM docking stations? There are, actually, already products specifically for this sort of thing: Celio's REDFLY http://www.celiocorp.com/. OLO http://olo-computer.com/ shows a similar idea wherein an iPhone would dock into a shell that looks like a laptop, but with the iPhone in place of (and becoming) a touchpad. I'm not really clear on how the REDFLY devices work, but maybe they could be used with the FreeRunner. Maybe not, but some day. Then again, maybe now depending on the kind of work and the if it can support USB video adapters. My guess is that the USB 1.1 isn't quite fast enough to support any particularly high-resolution/-framerate graphics (ditto for the HDD). QVGA, maybe? But the *inbuilt* display is a full, beautiful 640x480, so you might be better-off just putting a big Fresnel lens in front of it. :) Keyboard and mouse, however, are quite do-able--either via USB (with a slave-to-master converter for the port on the FreeRunner) or via bluetooth. Still how cool is that phone?! I've had one for about six months now, so I can say firsthand: it's *wicked* cool :) Though I have to admit that, most of the time, I use it as `just a mobile phone' and alarm-clock (ffalarms is *awsome*); occasionally I use Pidgin on it, or a web-browser, or TangoGPS (I'm somewhat of a an `old-school', map-reading navigator, so TangoGPS provides just the sort of sort of thing that I like). I've read my e-mail on it using Claws, a few times. It *is* also a lot of fun to to develop for a platform like this, though (I've got ~1.5 projects in the works with it, right now). Anyone else have one? Anyone else doing anything neat with it? (has everyone who /doesn't/ have one yet seen the `A6 blowout sale' going on at the openmoko.com store?) -- Don't be afraid to ask (Lf.((Lx.xx) (Lr.f(rr. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: Google humor
Nice. Reminds me of that old C book, the original one from way back. The index listed all the pages for the word recursion including that page of the index. I wrote a manaul for a PDP-10 IO package from Harvard, in the index I included one entry for the index. http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/decuslib10-04/01/43,50347/tulip.doc ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Openmoko/Neo FreeRunner, nanocomputing (was: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter)
On Friday 24 July 2009 07:35:14 pm Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Anyone else have one? Anyone else doing anything neat with it? I've got one and ordered one as soon as I could do so. However, I still only pick it up every few weeks as I've been too busy to really dig into it. The phone has incredible potential still, but I really wish I could just a decent software stack on it and play from there. It's a little too much work to get some of the distros on to try them out. -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: best office/home office setup - the telecommuter
It's a fairly high-power machine; however, it is in regular use by upwards of a dozen people, though only I use it as a desktop (and that is a concession to waste-avoidance; servers should not ordinarily have desktop software running on them). When it's possible to have 3 TB of RAID storage in my laptop, perhaps this will change, but I expect that by then I will have outgrown the current RAID. In 3 years or so it might be worth replacing it with a nettop and a couple of large external drives, but at the moment a desktop with internal drives is the only sensible way to maintain that much storage in a live state. I *use* my hardware regardless of its proximity to my current location; for those who do not, perhaps shutting it off makes sense. Also, with a comment like that you had *better* own a Prius. ;-) --DTVZ On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Drew Van Zandtdrew.vanza...@gmail.com wrote: I find that a desktop is better than a laptop, for the home office bit at least. I don't have to wait for boot/shutdown, keep dragging power supplies out, etc. OT I apologize in advance if I am preaching to the quire and this is just a super-low-power appliance-like machine that runs all your edge routing and house hold systems while you are away, but Dude! Shut that thing off when you are not using it! Global Warming, Peak Oil, national security... All of those are relevant, but in case you choose not to believe in any two of them, any one of them should be enough to get you to change your habits. If you don't have kids, do it for my kids, eh? /OT Ubuntu is making great strides in boot time. Also, I saw my Ibex boot time cut in about half (discarding BIOS and GRUB pause) when I installed a Kingston SATA SSD in my laptop running Ibex. (SSD is also good for reducing energy use.) Jaunty is quicker, but does not like my hardware. I have high hopes for Karmic Koala which is suppose to load in less than 10 seconds off disk (YMMV). Just enough time to plug in your power cable if you are quick. ;-) -- Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
