Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-31 Thread Luiza de Mello
I myself am a bike rider & always use a helmet, but that doesn't mean that 
I'm safe on the road & that it will stop me from having an accident. Let me 
tell you of one of my bad experiences on the road (that too while riding & 
wearing a helmet). It happened to me a second time just a few months back 
during the rainy season. First of all, the roads are wet & then there's 
traffic coming in the opposite direction, some of them with their lights 
full beam which reflects on the wet road, as well as on the visor of the 
helmet, making it very difficult to see anything ahead in the night. And to 
add to it, there were no street lights on at that particular sharp turn in 
Sangolda & there was a big black bull sitting right in the middle of the 
road which if I wasn't riding very slow, would have missed seeing it & rode 
straight into it.

I do agree with you that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding, but like 
Mr. Antonia D'Silva said in an earlier posting & I repeat it again, the 
government has to first provide us with a safe environment.

Luiza


To all Bike Riders

I thought I should contribute to this issue as a Bikie myself.  Safety is
utmost when riding a motorbike.  Wear your helmet and if its law - it is
good - just do it.  Stop complaining for f.sake.  If you want to
live you have to wear a helmet.  This goes for the pilion passenger too not
just the rider.

Regards

Damian Lobo




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Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-31 Thread Damian Lobo
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To all Bike Riders

I thought I should contribute to this issue as a Bikie myself.  Safety is
utmost when riding a motorbike.  Wear your helmet and if its law - it is
good - just do it.  Stop complaining for f.sake.  If you want to
live you have to wear a helmet.  This goes for the pilion passenger too not
just the rider.

Regards

Damian Lobo
- Original Message -
From: "Luiza de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


>
> Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
> implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers & the
> politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it was
> imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they go
> once again this year.
>
> Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because you
> never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
> carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid due to
> a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly excuses
for
> an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.
>
> But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those which
> are caused due to pure negligence of the government.
>
> Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other hazardous
> excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to first.
> To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road lighting,
> proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables / water
> connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban on
> using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic sign
> boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add, but
> let the government work on these for starters.
>
> Once all the above have been looked into & then the helmet rule is
imposed,
> then only riders will be convinced that the government is really concerned
> about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
> sudden enforcing of the rule.
>
> And to all other riders & drivers, each one knows that it is a privilege
> for us drive & each of us has a right on the road, and just as our lives
> are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive carefully,
> don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side, use
> indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to drive.
> You simply didn't get a license without knowing how to. or did you pay
> a bribe to get one?
>






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Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-29 Thread noel
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I could be wrong Mr D'Silva, but I do get the impression that you agree with
me.
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From: "D'Silva, Antonio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


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> I don't understand what the whole issue is about.
>
> Lets face it - Goans are the government of Goa - simple definition of
> democracy "Government of the people, by the people and for the people" -
> did I get that right?
>
> We have rights and all these rights have equal amount of duties i.e. If
> I drive, then I am duty bound to ensure my safety and safety of others.
>
> If the traffic police wants me to be safe then he enforces safety
> measures on me but not before providing me with an equal amount of safe
> environment.
>
> You see everything is linked or at least to some extent and this is true
> in all developed places except in our case, although we are the
> government.
>
> I have analyzed prior situations, (this is nothing new), Someone makes
> an issue of a dried leaf falling on the road and convinces all to jump
> onto his bandwagon to the secretariat where only he and he alone is
> offered the seat of Minister of Leaf Works.  Comes the rain, someone
> slips on the leaf, falls and dies and we all bury him and leave happily
> after.  The leaf is still there on the road - no wind to blow it away
> and than the guy who stirred the entire ruckus still drives day after
> day over the dried leaf. Only thing is we cannot pray (or is it do)
> enough for his government gifted four wheeler to slip over the dried
> leaf and turn turtle
>
> And yet the absolute truth is : we are the government.
>
> Like imagine, we pay 100 bucks to jump a queue to save 15 minutes and
> then spend 30 minutes waiting at the gas station or standing in a
> crowded bus (sardine can)at the Prasar (hope I got that right) to get
> home.
>
> Our mentality.... both MINE & yours.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: noel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...
>
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> I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over
> the
> compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
> dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have
> an
> obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
> have a "safe sense".
> - Original Message -
> From: "Luiza de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
> Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...
>
>
> >
> > Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
> > implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers &
> the
> > politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it
> was
> > imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they
> go
> > once again this year.
> >
> > Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because
> you
> > never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
> > carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid
> due to
> > a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly
> excuses
> for
> > an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.
> >
> > But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those
> which
> > are caused due to pure negligence of the government.
> >
> > Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other
> hazardous
> > excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to
> first.
> > To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road
> lighting,
> > proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables /
&

RE: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-29 Thread D'Silva, Antonio
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I don't understand what the whole issue is about.

Lets face it - Goans are the government of Goa - simple definition of
democracy "Government of the people, by the people and for the people" -
did I get that right?

We have rights and all these rights have equal amount of duties i.e. If
I drive, then I am duty bound to ensure my safety and safety of others.

If the traffic police wants me to be safe then he enforces safety
measures on me but not before providing me with an equal amount of safe
environment. 

You see everything is linked or at least to some extent and this is true
in all developed places except in our case, although we are the
government.

I have analyzed prior situations, (this is nothing new), Someone makes
an issue of a dried leaf falling on the road and convinces all to jump
onto his bandwagon to the secretariat where only he and he alone is
offered the seat of Minister of Leaf Works.  Comes the rain, someone
slips on the leaf, falls and dies and we all bury him and leave happily
after.  The leaf is still there on the road - no wind to blow it away
and than the guy who stirred the entire ruckus still drives day after
day over the dried leaf. Only thing is we cannot pray (or is it do)
enough for his government gifted four wheeler to slip over the dried
leaf and turn turtle

And yet the absolute truth is : we are the government.

Like imagine, we pay 100 bucks to jump a queue to save 15 minutes and
then spend 30 minutes waiting at the gas station or standing in a
crowded bus (sardine can)at the Prasar (hope I got that right) to get
home.

Our mentality both MINE & yours.
 

-Original Message-
From: noel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

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I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over
the
compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have
an
obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
have a "safe sense".
- Original Message -
From: "Luiza de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


>
> Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
> implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers &
the
> politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it
was
> imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they
go
> once again this year.
>
> Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because
you
> never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
> carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid
due to
> a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly
excuses
for
> an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.
>
> But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those
which
> are caused due to pure negligence of the government.
>
> Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other
hazardous
> excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to
first.
> To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road
lighting,
> proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables /
water
> connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban
on
> using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic
sign
> boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add,
but
> let the government work on these for starters.
>
> Once all the above have been looked into & then the helmet rule is
imposed,
> then only riders will be convinced that the government is really
concerned
> about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
> sudden enforcing of the rule.
>
> And to all other riders & drivers, each one knows that it is a
privilege
> for us drive & each of us has a right on the road, and just as our
lives
> are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive
carefully,
> don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side,
use
> indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to
drive.
> You simpl

Re: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...

2003-01-28 Thread noel
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I dont believe the other issues you mention should take priority over the
compulsory use of helmets.  Our civic sense and road protocol, menace of
dogs and pigs etc cannot entirely be blamed on the government. We have an
obligation and duty of care to ourselves and to others to ensure that we
have a "safe sense".
- Original Message -
From: "Luiza de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:35 PM
Subject: [GOANET] Once again the helmet issue...


>
> Here we go again with the helmet issue... It was all of a sudden
> implemented last year. Then after the helmet manufacturers, dealers & the
> politicians made their money, the rule was scrapped as suddenly as it was
> imposed. Definitely looks like they didn't make enough, so here they go
> once again this year.
>
> Everyone knows that it is safe to wear a helmet while riding because you
> never know when it's going to be your bad day. You could be riding
> carefully, but someone else could knock you down, or you could skid due to
> a puncture or oil on the road there could be a lot of silly excuses
for
> an accident. So it would definitely be safe to wear a helmet.
>
> But then besides accidents caused by carelessness, there are those which
> are caused due to pure negligence of the government.
>
> Before enforcing the helmet rule, there are a whole lot of other hazardous
> excuses for accidents which the government should give priority to first.
> To mention just a few: stray cattle, stray dogs, improper road lighting,
> proper levelling of roads dug up for laying of pipelines / cables / water
> connections, full headlights blinding other drivers on the road, ban on
> using blaring air horns which startle other drivers, proper traffic sign
> boards, direction boards,  there are still some more to add, but
> let the government work on these for starters.
>
> Once all the above have been looked into & then the helmet rule is
imposed,
> then only riders will be convinced that the government is really concerned
> about our safety. Right now everyone knows the obvious reasons for the
> sudden enforcing of the rule.
>
> And to all other riders & drivers, each one knows that it is a privilege
> for us drive & each of us has a right on the road, and just as our lives
> are precious of us, think of the rest on the road too. Drive carefully,
> don't over-take without horning, don't over-take from the left side, use
> indicators when turning I'm not teaching you. You know how to drive.
> You simply didn't get a license without knowing how to. or did you pay
> a bribe to get one?
>






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