Re: [Goanet] NEW NRI Commissioner - FINAL
On 12 June 2012 08:01, Joaquim D'souza wrote: > Dear JC, > > Reference to my first email i have mentioned that i had met Mr. Eduardo > Falerio so where does the question arise that i was rude in my comments. > > Reagdrs > Dear Joaquim, I invite you to read your posts again. I find them rude and dyslexic. Not very sure what type of school or university teaches one to write thus and expect much - just because it was asked. May I suggest the following: a: Give the individual concerned (in this case, Mr. Eduardo Faleiro, and now ...Dr. Mesquita) an advanced written brief of the problem, so that he can research the matter appropriately and have a reasonably informed answer to provide you. b: It is rude (also) to just pop up (in ambush format) a question, and expect a solution..in a criminal law matter; the alleged Filipino success notwithstanding. c: It is infinitely rude to address NRI Commissioner Dr. Wilfred Mesquita, in an email as "Mesquita". 'Dear Mr. Mesquita' would have been appropriate. d: While I understand that all of us make typos, your posts could do with a serious 'spell and language checker.' Now this is my final post on this matter. I have NO particular interest in debating this matter further. [You have won the debate] If I may, I will leave this topic with the following suggestion: You may consider [1] the present unnecessarily antagonistic approach or [2] a more circumspect and reasonable approach which entails "making a case" and working towards a resolution (if it is possible). Whichever one you choose, I wish you and yours very well. jc
Re: [Goanet] NEW NRI Commissioner
JCs minces no words, yet does so so very elegantly and succinctly (unlike my sermons). This is one of the most considerate, compassionate and gracious response and collation of thoughts observed on Goanet. I also appreciated that he signed it as, sincerely. And these pointers are brilliant: 1: Don't get into behaviour which is avoidable and illegal. 2: Use the time to save money and develop extra skills.. and migrate as soon as is convenient. (Something the Filipinos do) ++ We have a lot to learn, and some of us learn it when we leave the shores of India. Others learnt them on home soil, but v but few like to hear that. Although true, it hurts those who are fragile, or as my mother puts it, Baba te menache (of wax). I fully agree with JCs points about how to interact. There should be no choice in the matter. Just get your being to accord them the respect. Otherwise what it does is that it REVEALS we are hollow within, angst-ridden, churlish, dimwitted and basically bamtte (boorish). The school days, the galli (lanes, by lanes) days and the chortling over someone who could not kick a ball are over, or worse was sloppy in a skirt--they too are over. Moderns when they get up often ignore those whop are meant to serve. This is not always the case, but Collectors in districts who assiduously look after the well being of villages--are all about righteousness--them being righteous. Mui zaun sakor khavunk zai. Become an ant to eat/and eat sugar. Likewise to draw a stone, become the stone. There are no easy answers, but one knows that one has done ones best. My point about how we are perceived, alludes heavily towards how Christians are perceived. Do not for a minute doubt this. I know what I am talking about. People have to be strategic to an extent and in keeping with belief. Talking about opportunities, how many male nurses does one see from India in the west, or in India for that matter. Rickshaw drivers? These points should be somewhat helpful to think things through. We have to see ourselves as vessels, but end up as vassals--mostly on account of our sense of privilege which is not accorded even by many of our priests. As one observes, one learns that there is a place and time for everything, yet too often one learns such in any given context in hindsight. There is nothing that can be done about this, except chalk it down as experience and use the knowledge the next time around. + India and Indians have moved on to a place of mind that says accept us, but without the basic given on offer the civilizations we ape. We have come later to the game, and do not want anyone to tell us how to conduct business. A lot of is true; forget the Enlightenment, and in a way rightly so, but at least establish our counterpart of something similar instead of pointing to some text which suggests that life is all an illusion. The absolute and the relative is indeed one but not meant to be thrown in anyones face. Thats Consciousness 101. Nothing is a given, and that goes for extending courtesies, forms of integrity, loyalties to nation as well as its citizens. Philosophers to this day stretching way back into antiquity have been pointing out there there is very little loyalty! There is deep strife in our being, the vociferousness in almost any engagement; but, we have come of age, a time where we are fragmented--meaning, we have become of another age--cruder. Meaning is assigned only to things and events that one aligns with, and that aligning has to do with what is mine, and what works for my tepid brian, not within the spirit we profess to espouse--whether be it in belief, professionalism, or in being. That spirit/Spirit can be anyone from Gandhi, Godse, Savarkar, Bhagat Singh, Maulana Azad. We take their names, but do not understand the spirit of their times, and hardly even relate to their spirit. But yet we talk India, and yet more we believe that we have substance. venantius j pinto > From: "J. Colaco < jc>" > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] NEW NRI Commissioner > > > On 11 June 2012 00:08, Joaquim D'souza wrote: > >Dear JC, > >Thnaks for the reply and points what youhave mentioned are noted. > I would like to mention a few points which are eye open er for us > Indians. > >Is the Phillipines Embassy so powerful then us that they can > get their person out of the Jail the same crime i have mentioned with > 48 hours. ( I have been a witness to it ). > >We Indians and our Leaders dont want to give a fight or ask > questions to any Authorities the reason is He / She inside the Jail. > Are they representing the people with a mission to resolve their > problems they face when they are out of their country.(If you go to > the indian Embassy site you will find this what i have written) but >
Re: [Goanet] NEW NRI Commissioner
Dear Joaquim, While drafting this response, I have taken the liberty of deleting the rest of the digest which accompanied your post. I have known Dr. Wilfred Mesquita for many years. He is indeed, a very cordial and well 'well traveled' man. Not very sure what he will be able to do wrt legal matters in the UAE. My only advice to my brothers and sisters in that part of the world, is as follows: Know why you are there and PLEASE stay clear of avoidable problems like Driving Under the Influence, and Violent acts. While you are there, save some funds, upgrade your education and skills (esp writing and communication skills) .and then ... leave. Not very sure that India (leave alone the NRI commissioner or Embassy) has any leverage over UAE in such matters. Just as an aside, some years ago, a first cousin of Dr. Mesquita died tragically which sitting in a parked car.in that part of the world. A high performance car came and smashed into his parked car.The prevailing reasoning (for want of a better word) of the bystanders was that the victim (who was employed there) had NO business to be in the Dubai - (presumably) because he was a Indian. I doubt the police ever came to investigate. Even so, I wish you and your cause well. jc == On 10 June 2012 07:09, Joaquim D'souza wrote: Dear Misquita, Firstly congrulation on being appointed the new NRI Commissioner . We Goans in the Middle East would like to see something differnt from your end. A brief i would like to mention I had met Mr. Eduardo Falerio 4 years back and had raised a grievance about all the Goans languishing in the Jail in UAE and metioned to him that we need to get them out in discussion with the Indian Enbassy. The Reply i got for this was if they have done something wrong then let them be in the Jail. But he never asked the crime that was committed. Crimes like drunk driving, Bankruptcy, petty fights fist of anger at that movement. I would request you that we look into this cases as they are fathers to childern, Sons to the mothers who came to see that the family gets decent food and shelter but faith has put them in Jail. I would request you to kindly look in to this and i would personally like to help in this matter.
[Goanet] NEW NRI Commissioner
is preface, > > if you can get hold of a copy. > > > > But the book opens with a poem written in the best tradition of Robert > > Browning's dramatic monologues and which I think is quite germane to many > > of the controversies which Goans have willy-nilly embroiled themselves in, > > controversies regarding identity and belonging. I dare say that not just > > Goans who have migrated elsewhere, but also those who have migrated into > > Goa from other parts will empathise strongly with Nazareth's thoughts. > > > > The poem is named - To the African: "No Guest am I" > > > > I'll type it out in the next mail. > > > > Augusto > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Augusto Pinto > > 40, Novo Portugal, > > Moira, Bardez, > > Goa, India > > E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in > > P 0832-2470336 > > M 9881126350 > > > > > > -- > > > Augusto Pinto > 40, Novo Portugal, > Moira, Bardez, > Goa, India > E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in > P 0832-2470336 > M 9881126350 > > > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 07:33:36 -0400 > From: " joe lobo" > To: > Subject: Re: [Goanet] the signs of future events and trends in Goa. > Message-ID: <8084ABE28FC94A33915F7772C72D6AB7@joepc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Observing the news projected by the newsagencies in Goa. one > feels that with the economic imperative of staying as a tourist destination > that earns the State a lot of money for the the locals and the other > out-of-state Indian entrpreneurs, we shall have to knuckle under the policies > of outside interests, > Be it the Congress Party that has alliances with the politicians in > neighbouring Karnantaka or now the BJP which has kith-and - kin relationships > with neigbouring state of Maharashtra the smallest state in the Unionwill be > controlled covertly by outside interests . Like areas in southern Spain we > will have endure the concretisation of farmland to accomodate housing for the > guests, be they welcome or not by the older goan families. > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 18:56:25 +0530 > From: Aires Rodrigues > To: goanet > Subject: [Goanet] ON GOA GOVERNOR'S ADVICE TO LEGISLATORS > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > If Goa Governor B V Wanchoo is really concerned about transparency and > honest governance he needs to explain why the Goa Raj Bhavan has been > shying from complying with the Right to Information Act. > > > > The Right to Information Act was enacted to ensure transparency and > accountability in governance. Except Goa every other Governor in the > country and even the President of India are complying with the transparency > law. The Supreme Court would definitely deliver justice to this blatant RTI > violation by Goa Raj Bhavan. It would have been better if the Goa Governor > walked the talk. instead of just lecturing on good governance. > > > > If the Governor is vigilant and plays a pro active role in ensuring that > the elected government does not misuse power and authority it would lessen > the burden on civil society members. In Goa?s current situation where all > the opposition parties have gone into virtual hibernation, Governor Wanchoo > needs to play a more vigilant and vibrant role as the custodian of the > State in ensuring that the rule of law and justice prevails at all levels > of the administration. > > > Aires Rodrigues > T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat > Ribandar - Goa - 403006 > Mobile: 9822684372 > > > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:34:02 +0800 (SGT) > From: vivek araujo > To: goa...@goanet.org, " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" > > Subject: Re: [Goanet] New NRI Commissioner > Message-ID: > <1339248842.70373.yahoomailclas...@web192406.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dr. Misquita, > > Congrats, may you continue the good legacy left behind by Shri Eduardo > Faleiro . > > Would you know when and where is the next Global Goan Convention? > > Regards > > Vivek > > --- On Sat, 9/6/12, anesim...@aim.com wrote: > > > From: anesim...@aim.com > > Subject: [Goanet] New NRI Commissioner > > To: goa...@goanet.org > > Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 12:59 AM > > Dear all > > > > All this while I was wondering who would be the new NRI > > Commisioner and trying
Re: [Goanet] New NRI Commissioner
Dr. Misquita, Congrats, may you continue the good legacy left behind by Shri Eduardo Faleiro . Would you know when and where is the next Global Goan Convention? Regards Vivek --- On Sat, 9/6/12, anesim...@aim.com wrote: > From: anesim...@aim.com > Subject: [Goanet] New NRI Commissioner > To: goa...@goanet.org > Date: Saturday, 9 June, 2012, 12:59 AM > Dear all > > All this while I was wondering who would be the new NRI > Commisioner and trying to guess some names and hoped that we > will have someone who will be approachable and NRI/NRG > friendly as lot of Goans worldwide are taking a keen > interest in events unfolding in Goa and probably like to get > more involved. It was a pleasant surprise and a good one > too. He is Dr. Wilfred Misquita from Vasco. Wish him all the > best in his new assignment. > > Cheers > > Anesimo > > >
[Goanet] New NRI Commissioner
Dear all All this while I was wondering who would be the new NRI Commisioner and trying to guess some names and hoped that we will have someone who will be approachable and NRI/NRG friendly as lot of Goans worldwide are taking a keen interest in events unfolding in Goa and probably like to get more involved. It was a pleasant surprise and a good one too. He is Dr. Wilfred Misquita from Vasco. Wish him all the best in his new assignment. Cheers Anesimo
