[google-appengine] Re: X-AppEngine-City

2011-10-07 Thread roberto.cr
please star both Issues:

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=803&q=geolocation&colspec=ID%20Type%20Component%20Status%20Stars%20Summary%20Language%20Priority%20Owner%20Log

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5227&q=geolocation&colspec=ID%20Type%20Component%20Status%20Stars%20Summary%20Language%20Priority%20Owner%20Log

I'd love to see this happen as well! Many apps need this!

On Oct 7, 4:37 pm, "Brandon Wirtz"  wrote:
> Fair enough.   I'm a data hoarder :-) and clients have been buying
> information for 18+ years.  I have never don the GEO-Ip as a service because
> the cost could never be competitive with Maxmind.  At somepoint max mind
> might offer a directly compatible/supported solution with AppEngine.  If I
> were a Developer Evangelist at Google this would be the kind of thing I
> would be working to make happen (hint, hint, nudge, nudge)
>
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krishna Patel
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:50 AM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City
>
> Jeff,
>
> I didn't even consider using their Java api. The idea of keeping the data in
> memory on App Engine is absurd. I'm surprised you thought that might work.
>
> I'm following an approach similar to Ikai's in his blog post:
>
> http://ikaisays.com/2010/08/11/using-the-app-engine-mapper-for-bulk-d...
> ort/
>
> As you can see, he parses the Maxmind file into City and Zip entities so
> that he can do lookups by Key.
>
> Unfortunately I don't think this works to lookup a City from an IP address -
> because you have to scan a series of IP ranges in the underlying data (the
> data is not actually very complex).
>
> Brandon, "what's in it for me" is a good question to ask - on both sides of
> the transaction. In my case, it's a commercial app so why would I rely on
> your service? Who are you and how do I know you will be around in 6 months
> or 6 years? I don't mind paying for a service but I would prefer to pay for
> a service with some weight behind it.
>
> Juha, jsapi lookups are limited by daily quotas and questionable for a
> commercial app without paying an alleged $10,000 licensing fee for Google
> Maps Premium.
>
> - Krishna
>
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[google-appengine] Fwd: One-To-Many RElations Serialization

2011-10-07 Thread Bruno Sandivilli
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PersistenceManager pm = PMF.get().getPersistenceManager();
javax.jdo.Query query = (javax.jdo.Query) pm.newQuery(Objetos.class);
 query.setFilter("name == nameParam");
query.declareParameters("String nameParam");
 List listaMyInnerList = new ArrayList();
List listaMyMainList  = (List) query.execute(nameParam);
 if(listaMyMainList .size() > 0)
{
listaMyInnerList.addAll(listaMyMainList.get(0).getMyInnerList());
 }
return new ArrayList(listaMyInnerList);
or
   return listaMyInnerList;
it gives the same error of Type 'org.datanucleus.sco.backed.ArrayList'

anyone?

2011/10/7 Bruno Sandivilli 

> Thanks Buddy!
> But if i'm not using Hibernate? I'm using pure GWT, do i have to use the
>  in web.xml? How can i achieve this? Thanks
>
>
> 2011/10/7 Juan Pablo Gardella 
>
>> You can see the same problem but with hibernate 
>> here.
>> In this page show some strategies to resolve the problem. In my case I don't
>> adopt this strategies. I do a filter. In Pro Web 
>> 2.0explain
>>  the use of a
>> *filter*. A class that, in your case, for example convert
>> org.datanucleus.sco.backed.List in java.util.List. This filter intercept the
>> classes before send to client. Here
>> you
>> have an example of a Hibernate filter compatible with GWT 2.4.0 and how
>> integrate in a sample project.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/10/7 Bruno Sandivilli 
>>
>>> How can i serializa this List ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/10/7 Juan Pablo Gardella 
>>>
 What's your question?

 2011/10/6 Bruno Sandivilli 

>  I'm getting this error when my RPC returns a list of a custom object:
> Type 'org.datanucleus.sco.backed.List' was not included in the set of
> types which can be serialized by this SerializationPolicy or its Class
> object could not be loaded. For security purposes, this type will not be
> serialized.
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[google-appengine] Re: MySQL on GAE becomes a reality ?

2011-10-07 Thread Tim


On Friday, 7 October 2011 22:34:47 UTC+1, Andrei wrote:
>
> Is it free to use in preview mode? 
>
>
The initial announcement says it "is available free of charge for now, and 
we will publish pricing at least 30 days before charging for it" (I expect 
this might mean something like 'no premium over and above the normal 
quota/billable resources it consumes' but this is based on nothing more than 
gut feel). Of course, this is an "invitation only" preview at this stage 
(free as in "no cost", not free as in "freely available" at least for now).

I hope the exit-from-preview, should it reach that stage, is communicated 
more clearly than this year's GAE process, but at this stage I take the 
announcement more as a reinforcement of the investment in GAE facilities 
than any sort of hard-and-fast commitment to a particular direction.

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[google-appengine] Re: MySQL on GAE becomes a reality ?

2011-10-07 Thread Andrei
Is it free to use in preview mode?

On Oct 6, 6:17 pm, Tim  wrote:
> In case anyone missed it, a full SQL database is in "limited preview"
>
> http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-cloud-sql-your-dat...
>  http://code.google.com/apis/sql/
>
> Quote:  fully-managed service that maintains, manages, and administers your
> databases, [...] offering the capabilities of a MySQL database [...] allows
> for high data portability [...] quickly leverage your existing database
> (using JDBC and/or DB-API) in your App Engine application
>
> It's a bit late here in Europe for me to start digging into it, and pricing
> is yet to be announced, but for some of us who're only now looking at M/S ->
> H/R migration (typically under Python 2.7 migration pressure) and are having
> worries about how the enforced entity groups, consistency and read/write
> rates may affect us, this might be worth waiting for (but I expect it'll be
> priced at a premium)
>
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RE: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

2011-10-07 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Fair enough.   I'm a data hoarder :-) and clients have been buying
information for 18+ years.  I have never don the GEO-Ip as a service because
the cost could never be competitive with Maxmind.  At somepoint max mind
might offer a directly compatible/supported solution with AppEngine.  If I
were a Developer Evangelist at Google this would be the kind of thing I
would be working to make happen (hint, hint, nudge, nudge)

 

 

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[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krishna Patel
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 2:50 AM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

 

Jeff,

 

I didn't even consider using their Java api. The idea of keeping the data in
memory on App Engine is absurd. I'm surprised you thought that might work.

 

I'm following an approach similar to Ikai's in his blog post:

 

http://ikaisays.com/2010/08/11/using-the-app-engine-mapper-for-bulk-data-imp
ort/

 

As you can see, he parses the Maxmind file into City and Zip entities so
that he can do lookups by Key.

 

Unfortunately I don't think this works to lookup a City from an IP address -
because you have to scan a series of IP ranges in the underlying data (the
data is not actually very complex).

 

Brandon, "what's in it for me" is a good question to ask - on both sides of
the transaction. In my case, it's a commercial app so why would I rely on
your service? Who are you and how do I know you will be around in 6 months
or 6 years? I don't mind paying for a service but I would prefer to pay for
a service with some weight behind it.

 

Juha, jsapi lookups are limited by daily quotas and questionable for a
commercial app without paying an alleged $10,000 licensing fee for Google
Maps Premium.

 

- Krishna

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Re: [google-appengine] Simple alternative to AppScale and TyphoonAE

2011-10-07 Thread Tobias
Ricardo,

in case you want to give TyphoonAE a go, pass me a message. I'm currently 
gearing it up for Python 2.7 and proper SQL support.

Cheers,
Tobias

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Re: [google-appengine] MySQL on GAE becomes a reality ?

2011-10-07 Thread Tim
I had the same thoughts about performance (and saw the notes about the 
quota/limit and the "do not apply to AppEngine" qualifier too).

For those interested, there's a new group set up here

  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/google-cloud-sql-discuss

It's pretty sparse at the moment, as you might expect... :)
I'm mostly lurking on there for now to see what other news appears as people 
ask questions and early beta testers try things out - there's also an 
-annouce group where I expect more formal news will be posted.

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Re: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

2011-10-07 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Krishna Patel  wrote:
> Jeff,
> I didn't even consider using their Java api. The idea of keeping the data in
> memory on App Engine is absurd. I'm surprised you thought that might work.

Uh... did you miss the part where I did this and it works great?  And
James Broberg did the same?

Jeff

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Re: [google-appengine] MySQL on GAE becomes a reality ?

2011-10-07 Thread Barry Hunter
Note the opening sentence, tho

> External requests to Google Cloud SQL instances are subject to the
following access limits and quotas. Note that these limits only apply to
Google Cloud SQL use and* do not apply to App Engine use.*


On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Jody Belka  wrote:

> Who knows if it'll change later, but for now the docs state...
>
> ResourceLimits/QuotasQueries Per Second (QPS)5 QPSMaximum Request Size16
> MBMaximum Response Size16 MB
>
>
> Jody
>
> On 7 October 2011 00:29, James Broberg  wrote:
>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> I wonder how many writes/second it can do.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> On 7 October 2011 09:17, Tim  wrote:
>> >
>> > In case anyone missed it, a full SQL database is in "limited preview"
>> >
>> http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-cloud-sql-your-database-in-cloud.html
>> >   http://code.google.com/apis/sql/
>> > Quote:  fully-managed service that maintains, manages, and administers
>> your
>> > databases, [...] offering the capabilities of a MySQL database [...]
>> allows
>> > for high data portability [...] quickly leverage your existing database
>> > (using JDBC and/or DB-API) in your App Engine application
>> > It's a bit late here in Europe for me to start digging into it, and
>> pricing
>> > is yet to be announced, but for some of us who're only now looking at
>> M/S ->
>> > H/R migration (typically under Python 2.7 migration pressure) and are
>> having
>> > worries about how the enforced entity groups, consistency and read/write
>> > rates may affect us, this might be worth waiting for (but I expect it'll
>> be
>> > priced at a premium)
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Re: [google-appengine] MySQL on GAE becomes a reality ?

2011-10-07 Thread Jody Belka
Who knows if it'll change later, but for now the docs state...

ResourceLimits/QuotasQueries Per Second (QPS)5 QPSMaximum Request
Size16 MBMaximum
Response Size16 MB


Jody

On 7 October 2011 00:29, James Broberg  wrote:

> Very interesting.
>
> I wonder how many writes/second it can do.
>
> -James
>
> On 7 October 2011 09:17, Tim  wrote:
> >
> > In case anyone missed it, a full SQL database is in "limited preview"
> >
> http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-cloud-sql-your-database-in-cloud.html
> >   http://code.google.com/apis/sql/
> > Quote:  fully-managed service that maintains, manages, and administers
> your
> > databases, [...] offering the capabilities of a MySQL database [...]
> allows
> > for high data portability [...] quickly leverage your existing database
> > (using JDBC and/or DB-API) in your App Engine application
> > It's a bit late here in Europe for me to start digging into it, and
> pricing
> > is yet to be announced, but for some of us who're only now looking at M/S
> ->
> > H/R migration (typically under Python 2.7 migration pressure) and are
> having
> > worries about how the enforced entity groups, consistency and read/write
> > rates may affect us, this might be worth waiting for (but I expect it'll
> be
> > priced at a premium)
> >
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[google-appengine] Re: Inbound email quotas?

2011-10-07 Thread voscausa
I don't think there is a special quota for inbound email, bacause the 
handler is like a normal request handler.
The docs say : Email messages are sent to your app as HTTP POST requests

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[google-appengine] Re: Add a user with a Google Apps domain alias

2011-10-07 Thread voscausa
It works fine (for me) when you register your custom domain as a  google 
apps domain.
I use f.i. nore...@mycustomdomain.com where this address has a Viewer rol in 
GAE permissions.

I think your alias trick does not work, because GAE needs to be sure you are 
the owner of the custom domain.

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[google-appengine] Inbound email quotas?

2011-10-07 Thread nacho
Hi, in http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html I can't see wich is 
the max quota (free or paid) for inbound email.

Where can I see which are the max quotas of inbound email?

Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Add a user with a Google Apps domain alias

2011-10-07 Thread Pieter Coucke
Hi,

How can I send e-mails from my app with the same domain name as my app
if the domain name is a Google Apps domain alias?


A description of my steps:

I want to send e-mails from my app with an e-mail address that is the
same as my custom domain name for my app, but I am not able to add the
user.  I registered a domain alias for my app, say
www.mydomainalias.com.  mydomainalias.com is a Google Apps domain
alias for my real Google Apps domain mydomain.com.

When I try to add nore...@mydomainalias.com as a user with permission
"viewer" to my app, I do get the e-mail with the confirmation link in
my nore...@mydomain.com account.
When I click the confirmation link
(https://appengine.google.com/a/mydomainalias.com/permissions/newadmin?app_id=s~my-app-id&token=sometoken=)
I get the following error message:
"Sorry, you've reached a login page for a domain that isn't using
Google Apps. Please check the web address and try again."  This is
understandable since I should log in with my primary Google Apps
domain according to
http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=33419 .

When I change the confirmation link to
https://appengine.google.com/a/mydomain.com/permissions/newadmin?app_id=s~my-app-id&token=sometoken=
then I can add the user, but then the e-mail address that is added is
nore...@mydomain.com, and not nore...@mydomainalias.com .

Has anyone seen something similar (and has a workaround)?

Thanks,

Pieter Coucke

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[google-appengine] Re: slow deployments, 500 errors

2011-10-07 Thread Alexandru Farcaş
I forgot to mention that now goes well.
I didn't had problems since 4th.

On Oct 4, 7:05 pm, Johan Euphrosine  wrote:
> Please open a production with your application 
> id:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Produc...
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Alexandru Farcaş <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> alex.far...@expert-group.biz> wrote:
> > I'm getting 500 errors since yesterday :(
>
> > On Oct 4, 2:39 pm, Kenneth  wrote:
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[google-appengine] Phone number not accepted

2011-10-07 Thread jschlier
My phone number for creating new applications is not accepted. It was
accepted 2 years ago.
I used the pattern +4917X. A simple error message is shown:

There were errors:
Mobile Number or Username

My carrier is Vodafone Germany.

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Re: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

2011-10-07 Thread Krishna Patel
Jeff,

I didn't even consider using their Java api. The idea of keeping the data in
memory on App Engine is absurd. I'm surprised you thought that might work.

I'm following an approach similar to Ikai's in his blog post:

http://ikaisays.com/2010/08/11/using-the-app-engine-mapper-for-bulk-data-import/

As you can see, he parses the Maxmind file into City and Zip entities so
that he can do lookups by Key.

Unfortunately I don't think this works to lookup a City from an IP address -
because you have to scan a series of IP ranges in the underlying data (the
data is not actually very complex).

Brandon, "what's in it for me" is a good question to ask - on both sides of
the transaction. In my case, it's a commercial app so why would I rely on
your service? Who are you and how do I know you will be around in 6 months
or 6 years? I don't mind paying for a service but I would prefer to pay for
a service with some weight behind it.

Juha, jsapi lookups are limited by daily quotas and questionable for a
commercial app without paying an alleged $10,000 licensing fee for Google
Maps Premium.

- Krishna

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RE: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

2011-10-07 Thread Brandon Wirtz
If someone tells me how to make money on it I will expose my API for doing
Geo-Location by IP.  I never assumed anyone would pay anything... So I'm not
sure what is in it for me.

Also what level of detail do you want? 



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[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer
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Subject: Re: [google-appengine] X-AppEngine-City

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Juha K  wrote:
> How about using
> http://www.google.com/jsapi and 
> google.loader.ClientLocation.address.city on the client side?

It doesn't work anymore.  At least, it doesn't work for me here in the Bay
Area anymore.  And Google has  pulled down all documentation for it, so
presumably it has been deprecated.

Too bad, it's exactly what I want.

Jeff

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[google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.5.5 available for download!

2011-10-07 Thread MLTrim
Wow, what a release!!!
Kudos to the team.

Lot of work for Nick Johnson on Stack Overflow after this SDK, all the 
deadline/timeout answers should be reedited :).

Michele
[Systempuntoout]
http://www.gaecupboard.com


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