[google-appengine] Cross-Group (XG) Transactions crashing SDK

[sb]

When I use Cross Group Transactions with the SDK it crashes because I
am not using HRD.

Should I report this is bug/improvement? or has someone figured out a
way to emulate HRD on the SDK?

Any workarounds?

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Re: [google-appengine] Customer Compliance

[sebastián serrano]

Google groups needs +1 on replies

El miércoles 29 de febrero de 2012 22:31:33 UTC-3, Brandon Wirtz escribió:
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Re: [google-appengine] Rescheduled maintenance period?

[John]

Please give more than one week notice for planned outages. To this point, 
the March 7 date hasn't been posted to 
google-appengine-downtime-not...@googlegroups.com

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:43:25 AM UTC-8, Amy Unruh wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Amy Unruh  wrote:
>
>> Yossy,
>>
>> It is possible that the maintenance may be postponed, but for now still 
>> assume that it will occur today (29th Feb.).  Sorry about the confusion. 
>>  I'll update this thread in the case that is postponed.
>>
>
> To follow up: The announced maintenance period is *definitely* occurring 
> today, 29th Feb. [There may be an additional unrelated maintenance period 
> next week; it will be announced separately on 
> the google-appengine-downtime-notify group].
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Yossy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I thought that maintenance period was planed at Wednesday, February
>>> 29, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>>> But, according to google calendar, next maintenance is planed at
>>> Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>>>
>>> Next maintenance period was rescheduled?
>>> If it is rescheduled, I should recieve maintenace notification.
>>> (I have joined in Google App Engine Downtime Notify Group.)
>>> Please tell me next maintenace time.
>>>
>>> Developers can subscribe to the scheduled maintenance calendar using
>>> the following link:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=4chlpo92ci2f54c2u21shbj...@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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>>
>
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:43:25 AM UTC-8, Amy Unruh wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Amy Unruh wrote:
>
>> Yossy,
>>
>> It is possible that the maintenance may be postponed, but for now still 
>> assume that it will occur today (29th Feb.).  Sorry about the confusion. 
>>  I'll update this thread in the case that is postponed.
>>
>
> To follow up: The announced maintenance period is *definitely* occurring 
> today, 29th Feb. [There may be an additional unrelated maintenance period 
> next week; it will be announced separately on 
> the google-appengine-downtime-notify group].
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Yossy  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I thought that maintenance period was planed at Wednesday, February
>>> 29, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>>> But, according to google calendar, next maintenance is planed at
>>> Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>>>
>>> Next maintenance period was rescheduled?
>>> If it is rescheduled, I should recieve maintenace notification.
>>> (I have joined in Google App Engine Downtime Notify Group.)
>>> Please tell me next maintenace time.
>>>
>>> Developers can subscribe to the scheduled maintenance calendar using
>>> the following link:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=4chlpo92ci2f54c2u21shbj...@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK
>>>
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[google-appengine] Re: Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[Sean Kovacs]

GAE is soo unpredictable...you have an app that costs $.10/day then
spike to $1+ for no reason other than issues with GAE and we foot the
bill. Thanks.


On Feb 29, 3:49 pm, AggieBradley  wrote:
> Are you still seeing this issue?  I have an app that has been running
> happily for months and then yesterday it started having much the same
> problem you describe.   Then, magically about 3 hours ago it returned
> to normal performance.
>
> On Feb 29, 10:35 am, thecheatah  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past
> > few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests.
>
> > All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has
> > increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S
> > setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR
> > storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to
> > upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration
> > process.
>
> > Can someone please look into this.

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RE: [google-appengine] Customer Compliance

[Brandon Wirtz]

Basically none of this applies to Google App Engine.  If you are a reporter,
contact Google's PR, or talk to an analyst.  If you are a student, do more
research in the forums before spamming the list.  If you are an analyst I
sure hope you don't charge much.

 

 


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Subject: [google-appengine] Customer Compliance

 

I'm doing some research into how Cloud hosting solution providers tackle
compliance, particularly in terms of what they do to help their customers
capture the data they need to ensure compliance e.g.

.   Do they offer compliance services to their customers

.   Do they provide any tools/dashboards etc that enable customers track
compliance issues e.g. how many processors a hosted machine may have

.   Do they commit to notifying customers of any changes that could
affect their compliance e.g. moving a virtual machine to a different
physical machine or changing the configuration of a physical hosting server
(this is needed as some products are licensed based on the configuration of
the physical host rather than the virtual guest machine)

.   Do they advise the customer where their machines are hosted
geographically in case the customers licenses only permit use in certain
parts of the world

.   What about solutions where the hosting company provides the
licenses, how do they provide documentation to the customer about what
licenses they have been allocated should the auditor come knocking on the
customers door?

If anyone has any comments on google app engine (or others), I'd really
appreciate it. Thanks

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Re: [google-appengine] Exceeded soft memory limit using key()

[Andreas]

1. why dont you query for keys_only instead of the whole entity when you need 
the key only anyway?
Model.all(keys_only=True)  ... i guess query = ModelA.all().all() is a typo.

2. how many entities are you feching in total? of course if you continue 
fetching 1000 entities and you have 10k entities the entityList will be pretty 
big and then you will hit the memory limit.

3. instead of the forloop it would be better if you would do:
entityList.append(queryResult)... if you query keys only like i did 
above
otherwise it would be entityList.append([str(e.key()) for e in 
queryResult]) but that does not make sense if you need keys only.



On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:50 PM, H.N. wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> My program has a problem look like memory leak (log: Exceeded soft
> memory limit). I find it is the result of instance methods key() of
> Model Class. Algorithm as below:
> 
> 
> def post(self):
>"""/queue_task/get_key
>Get all entity key of ModelA
>"""
>entityList = []
>cursor = self.request.get('cursor', '')
> 
>query = ModelA.all().all()
>if cursor:
>query.with_cursor(cursor)
>queryResult = query.fetch(1000)
>for entity in queryResult:
>entityList.append(entity.key().__str__())
> 
># save entityList into datastore
> 
>taskqueue.add(url='/queue_task/get_key',
>  params={'cursor': query.cursor()},
>  queue_name='task',
>  target='backendA')
> 
> The usage memory will increase (all task run in one backend instance)
> and exceeded soft memory limit finally. If I replace entity.key() with
> some variable or string, it is work successfully. What happens in this
> code or key() of Model Class??
> 
> Thanks
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[google-appengine] Re: Invoking the backup process via a cron job

[Kenneth]

Yeah, that seems like a pretty huge missing feature.  I put in an issue for 
it.

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7040 


On Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:40:22 PM UTC, raydon wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>   I'm excited about the new backup feature but I'd really like to know how 
> to kick it off via some daily cron job.  We're using the Java version of 
> GAE.  I don't want my backup process to rely on me clicking a button each 
> morning :)
>
> Thanks,
> Raydon
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Re: [google-appengine] i want to download GoogleAppEngine API documentation.. but.. error occured

[Amy Unruh]

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Amy Unruh  wrote:

> Thanks for reporting the bad link.  You can start here for the
> documentation: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/ .


To follow up-- this link (
http://googleappengine.googlecode.com/files/google-appengine-docs-20120228.zip)
worked when I checked it.  Give it another try.

>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM, 배현규  wrote:
>
>> http://code.google.com/intl/ko/appengine/downloads.html
>>
>> in there, Download the Google App Engine Documentation tap,
>>  Google App Engine documentation 2012-02-28
>> google-appengine-docs-20120228.zipMBthis
>> link doesn't work...
>>
>> how can i get documentation??
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Re: [google-appengine] i want to download GoogleAppEngine API documentation.. but.. error occured

[Amy Unruh]

Thanks for reporting the bad link.  You can start here for the
documentation: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/ .

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM, 배현규  wrote:

> http://code.google.com/intl/ko/appengine/downloads.html
>
> in there, Download the Google App Engine Documentation tap,
>  Google App Engine documentation 2012-02-28
> google-appengine-docs-20120228.zipMBthis
> link doesn't work...
>
> how can i get documentation??
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[google-appengine] Re: Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[AggieBradley]

Are you still seeing this issue?  I have an app that has been running
happily for months and then yesterday it started having much the same
problem you describe.   Then, magically about 3 hours ago it returned
to normal performance.


On Feb 29, 10:35 am, thecheatah  wrote:
> I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past
> few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests.
>
> All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has
> increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S
> setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR
> storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to
> upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration
> process.
>
> Can someone please look into this.

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[google-appengine] Discounted instance hours for F2 & F4

[Calvin Prewitt]

If the default frontend instance class is set to F2 or F4, do the
discounted instance hours apply in the expected manner?
F2 as 2x F1 cost/hour
F4 as 4x F2 cost/hour

so discounted F4 would cost $0.20/hour ?

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[google-appengine] Re: Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[Ted Roden]

We're having a lot of issues today. We're getting a lot of 500s "Request 
was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request." We 
normally have no problem serving these requests. I'm thinking there is a 
Datastore slowness issue? (Perhaps related to yesterday)

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:35:31 AM UTC-5, thecheatah wrote:
>
> I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past 
> few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests. 
>
> All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has 
> increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S 
> setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR 
> storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to 
> upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration 
> process. 
>
> Can someone please look into this.

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[google-appengine] Re: Installation failure

[Bertrand]

I'm having the same problem with helios, trying to install the google 
plugin. 
With Indigo i was not even able to start the installation.
I'm using win 7 64b
How come this has not been tested !!!

Le samedi 15 octobre 2011 20:52:17 UTC+2, Jeff S a écrit :

> Hi were you able to resolve this error? I am seeing the same issue.
>

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[google-appengine] GAE - External image/Video counts Bandwidth?

[Bala Murali]

Hi, In Google App Engine, free 1GB bandwidth hosting website if we
have  external image and videos like youtube will this external video/
image be counted in the given 1GB bandwidth? Please clarify. Thanks

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[google-appengine] Google App Engine: Backends not responding

[Hagar Romach]

Hi,

Apologize if this is not the right forum to post this.

I have been using google app engine for months now and have 2 hourly cron 
jobs in the backends.

For the past 24 hours we are seeing very strange behavior in the backends:

   1. Both cron jobs are marked failed with no error. There is no trace in 
   the logs that they started and failed.
   2. When trying to upload a new version to the backend, the following 
   error appeared: java.lang.RuntimeException: Version not ready.
   3. I also tried to stop the backend from the admin console but when I 
   try to start it again I get a Server Error: "A server error has occurred."

Would appreciate any help

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: 30K mail problem

[Rajesh M]

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Greg  wrote:

> Are you sure you aren't hitting a rate limit, rather than a quota
> limit? See the Mail section of
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html
> for details.
>
> Cheers
> Greg.
>
> On Feb 20, 5:26 am, Can Özer  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have made payments for my Google Apps accounts which I registered 10
> > days ago, after that their quota limits disabled.
> >
> > Although I have 500K email limit on my account, I can only send 30K
> > mail. After sending 30K mail, the app stops sending mail, but I can
> > see quota change even though the mails cannot be sent.
> >
> > I have changed all the components of the mail message, nothing has
> > changed.
> >
> > What is the problem? How can I send paid mail without quota
> > limitation?
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> may be are you cc to any others so that takes multiple count
I am not sure
may be that...

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[google-appengine] Customer Compliance

[chanthe...@hotmail.com]

I'm doing some research into how Cloud hosting solution providers tackle 
compliance, particularly in terms of what they do to help their customers 
capture the data they need to ensure compliance e.g.

·   Do they offer compliance services to their customers

·   Do they provide any tools/dashboards etc that enable customers 
track compliance issues e.g. how many processors a hosted machine may have

·   Do they commit to notifying customers of any changes that could 
affect their compliance e.g. moving a virtual machine to a different 
physical machine or changing the configuration of a physical hosting server 
(this is needed as some products are licensed based on the configuration of 
the physical host rather than the virtual guest machine)

·   Do they advise the customer where their machines are hosted 
geographically in case the customers licenses only permit use in certain 
parts of the world

·   What about solutions where the hosting company provides the 
licenses, how do they provide documentation to the customer about what 
licenses they have been allocated should the auditor come knocking on the 
customers door?

If anyone has any comments on google app engine (or others), I'd really 
appreciate it. Thanks

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[google-appengine] i want to download GoogleAppEngine API documentation.. but.. error occured

[배현규]

http://code.google.com/intl/ko/appengine/downloads.html 

in there, Download the Google App Engine Documentation tap,
Google App Engine 
documentation2012-02-28google-appengine-docs-20120228.zip
MBthis link doesn't work...

how can i get documentation??

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[google-appengine] Re: Dead link on G.A.E documentation from Google Cloud Storage

[testing]

http://googleappengine.googlecode.com/files/google-appengine-docs-20120228.zip

here is another dead link,

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:04:32 AM UTC+9, karim duran wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> If you surf on https://developers.google.com/storage/ 
>  and then follow the link "Google App Engine integration" e.g 
> https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlestorage 
>
> you get a nice http 404. 
>
> Could you check and correct the link please. 
>
> Thanks. 
>
> Regards. 
>
> Karim Duran 
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[google-appengine] Exceeded soft memory limit using key()

[H.N.]

Hi everyone,

My program has a problem look like memory leak (log: Exceeded soft
memory limit). I find it is the result of instance methods key() of
Model Class. Algorithm as below:


def post(self):
"""/queue_task/get_key
Get all entity key of ModelA
"""
entityList = []
cursor = self.request.get('cursor', '')

query = ModelA.all().all()
if cursor:
query.with_cursor(cursor)
queryResult = query.fetch(1000)
for entity in queryResult:
entityList.append(entity.key().__str__())

# save entityList into datastore

taskqueue.add(url='/queue_task/get_key',
  params={'cursor': query.cursor()},
  queue_name='task',
  target='backendA')

The usage memory will increase (all task run in one backend instance)
and exceeded soft memory limit finally. If I replace entity.key() with
some variable or string, it is work successfully. What happens in this
code or key() of Model Class??

Thanks

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[google-appengine] Setting Up Google Apps

[Mr A]

Hi there,

I'm trying to set-up my domain to use Google Apps (Free) but keep
getting the following message;

This domain has already been signed up for a Google Apps edition or
Postini product. Check out our Signup Troubleshooter to help guide in
troubleshooting this issue.

Our account was deleted around 10-14 days ago so trying to recreate.

I've checked the trouble shooter but when i try to reset our
Administrator password by going to

https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/ourdomainname.co.uk - i just get the
following error;

Server error

Sorry, you've reached a login page for a domain that isn't using
Google Apps. Please check the web address and try again. Learn more

Totally stuck on what to do!!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

M

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[google-appengine] Re: Could we have some information about the errors showing on the status pages these last few days ?

[sb]

It doesn't look like anything happened. All I see for February 20 is a
row of big green ticks.
http://code.google.com/status/appengine/2012/02/20

Any communication from Google would be better than these green ticks.

On Feb 21, 10:20 am, Francois Masurel  wrote:
> Could it be related to the 1.6.3 SDK update ?
>
> Thanx for your help.
>
> 
>
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[google-appengine] Re: setuptools added as third party library

[Anand Mistry]

It was added to support PackageLoader template loading in Jinja2. Other 
than that, it's not very useful.

On Thursday, 1 March 2012 03:53:29 UTC+11, gops wrote:
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> in recent change, setuptools added as third party library to google app 
> engine.
>
> I am wondering, what is the use case for it in google app engine ?
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[google-appengine] Re: Could we have some information about the errors showing on the status pages these last few days ?

[Ronoaldo José de Lana Pereira]

+1 for a post-morten about what happened...

Em terça-feira, 21 de fevereiro de 2012 13h20min04s UTC-2, Francois Masurel 
escreveu:
>
> Could it be related to the 1.6.3 SDK update ?
>
> Thanx for your help.
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [google-appengine] Wildcard domain mappings and alternate versions

[Ronoaldo José de Lana Pereira]

Hello Jeff, Brandon,

I was looking on how to use it. It is documented at the bottom of this 
page: http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/docs/domain.html. Didn't 
tested yet.

Best Regards,

-Ronoaldo

Em quarta-feira, 29 de fevereiro de 2012 16h50min16s UTC-3, Brandon Wirtz 
escreveu:
>
> I think this is just  the app version ID and the domain…
>
>  
>
> 123s2.YourAppID.Appspot.com
>
>
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RE: [google-appengine] Wildcard domain mappings and alternate versions

[Brandon Wirtz]

I think this is just  the app version ID and the domain.

 

123s2.YourAppID.Appspot.com




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Re: [google-appengine] Rescheduled maintenance period?

[Amy Unruh]

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Amy Unruh  wrote:

> Yossy,
>
> It is possible that the maintenance may be postponed, but for now still
> assume that it will occur today (29th Feb.).  Sorry about the confusion.
>  I'll update this thread in the case that is postponed.
>

To follow up: The announced maintenance period is *definitely* occurring
today, 29th Feb. [There may be an additional unrelated maintenance period
next week; it will be announced separately on
the google-appengine-downtime-notify group].

>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Yossy  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I thought that maintenance period was planed at Wednesday, February
>> 29, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>> But, according to google calendar, next maintenance is planed at
>> Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>>
>> Next maintenance period was rescheduled?
>> If it is rescheduled, I should recieve maintenace notification.
>> (I have joined in Google App Engine Downtime Notify Group.)
>> Please tell me next maintenace time.
>>
>> Developers can subscribe to the scheduled maintenance calendar using
>> the following link:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=4chlpo92ci2f54c2u21shbj...@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[Kaan Soral]

Google Groups need a Like button :)

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:06:59 PM UTC+2, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
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> It's the end of the financial quarter and GAE needed to make revenue 
> targets ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, thecheatah  wrote:
>
>> I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past
>> few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests.
>>
>> All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has
>> increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S
>> setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR
>> storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to
>> upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration
>> process.
>>
>> Can someone please look into this.
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[google-appengine] Wildcard domain mappings and alternate versions

[Jeff Schnitzer]

In 1.6.3 we have this:  "Using Google Apps wildcard domain mappings, you
can access alternate versions of your app via a custom domain."

I can't seem to find any documentation for this feature.

Is there something more I need to configure in Google Apps?  What?

What does a URL to my version look like?

Thanks,
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[google-appengine] Re: Dead link in traffic splitting dialog box

[Bryce Cutt]

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7019

On Feb 29, 5:28 am, Brian Davenport  wrote:
> Looking at the traffic splitting box has a getting started link to what I
> assume is a internal resource at google 
> hq.http://ahimsa.sfo.corp.google.com:/appengine/docs/adminconsole/tr...

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Re: [google-appengine] Rescheduled maintenance period?

[Amy Unruh]

Yossy,

It is possible that the maintenance may be postponed, but for now still
assume that it will occur today (29th Feb.).  Sorry about the confusion.
 I'll update this thread in the case that is postponed.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Yossy  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I thought that maintenance period was planed at Wednesday, February
> 29, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
> But, according to google calendar, next maintenance is planed at
> Wednesday, March 7, 2012 - 4:00pm-5:30pm.
>
> Next maintenance period was rescheduled?
> If it is rescheduled, I should recieve maintenace notification.
> (I have joined in Google App Engine Downtime Notify Group.)
> Please tell me next maintenace time.
>
> Developers can subscribe to the scheduled maintenance calendar using
> the following link:
>
> https://www.google.com/calendar/b/0/embed?src=4chlpo92ci2f54c2u21shbj...@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK
>
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Re: [google-appengine] continual transient error on pull queue

[c h]

Nick,

Thanks much!  i started leasing tasks again and it appears to be working. 
 I've been through a few thousand tasks, only 19 million more tasks to go!

thanks for keeping me updated.

christian

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RE: [google-appengine] Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

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You do need it because MS has wild performance issues. Like the ones you
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[google-appengine] Throttling and whitelisting

[Matija]

Is there some way to 'whitelist' my local app that is accessing GAE app?



Every last day of month we are doing backup and few seconds after process 
startup our local app faces extreme throttling. F4 instance and nobody else 
is using it at that time. Am I missing something ? 

Matija.

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Re: [google-appengine] Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[Jeff Schnitzer]

It's the end of the financial quarter and GAE needed to make revenue
targets ;-)

Jeff

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, thecheatah  wrote:

> I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past
> few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests.
>
> All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has
> increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S
> setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR
> storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to
> upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration
> process.
>
> Can someone please look into this.
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Re: [google-appengine] A bug that hits every 4 years* and takes everything

[Jeff Schnitzer]

You're apparently not alone!

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3647611

Jeff

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>
> lastEmail=db.DateTimeProperty(default=datetime(datetime.now().year-1,datetime.now().month,datetime.now().day,datetime.now().hour,datetime.now().minute),indexed=False)
>
> Since the models were included in every request, it brought down the app
> completely, wish I checked any page before going to sleep or used timedelta
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[google-appengine] setuptools added as third party library

[Gopal Patel]

in recent change, setuptools added as third party library to google app
engine.

I am wondering, what is the use case for it in google app engine ?

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[google-appengine] Why are my requests taking > 1 second all of a sudden?

[thecheatah]

I have a simple page that reads one row and updates it. Over the past
few YEARS, it has taken < 100ms to process these requests.

All of a sudden the latency has increased to 1000ms. This has
increased my cost by a considerable amount. I know I am using M/S
setup and I don't get concurrency because it is only available for HR
storage (What's the technical reason for that?). I don't want to
upgrade to HR because I don't need it and I do not trust the migration
process.

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Re: [google-appengine] A bug that hits every 4 years* and takes everything

[roberto.cr]

hehehe :)

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:11:38 PM UTC-3, Andrin von Rechenberg 
wrote:
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> At least it's not your birthday today :)
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kaan Soral  wrote:
>
>>
>> lastEmail=db.DateTimeProperty(default=datetime(datetime.now().year-1,datetime.now().month,datetime.now().day,datetime.now().hour,datetime.now().minute),indexed=False)
>>
>> Since the models were included in every request, it brought down the app 
>> completely, wish I checked any page before going to sleep or used timedelta 
>> instead :)
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[google-appengine] Re: Many unnecessary instance starts in the last few days

[C Sowa]

Seconded.  I have a modest, stable little app that runs under the free 
quota.  The last few days, however, instance hours in the 50 range have 
been reported on the dashboard, resulting in several hours of downtime due 
to exceeding quotas.  When I look at the instances chart, I notice that the 
green (billable) line has been at or very near one all day, and then zero 
for the out of quota period.
 
Here's where it gets interesting: When I look at billing history for the 
day, it reports *under* 24 hours, which is accurately reflects what the 
instances chart had indicated.  So why am I getting out of quota downtime?  
And why is ms / request, normally at 60 or so, skyrocketing to 6000?  There 
was no corresponding fluctuation in request type or rate.
 


 


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Re: [google-appengine] A bug that hits every 4 years* and takes everything

[Gopal Patel]

not every four year, you will be safe for year 2400 , 2800 and on...

( and thanks for pointing out, I will now take more care )

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg
wrote:

> At least it's not your birthday today :)
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Kaan Soral  wrote:
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>>
>> lastEmail=db.DateTimeProperty(default=datetime(datetime.now().year-1,datetime.now().month,datetime.now().day,datetime.now().hour,datetime.now().minute),indexed=False)
>>
>> Since the models were included in every request, it brought down the app
>> completely, wish I checked any page before going to sleep or used timedelta
>> instead :)
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[google-appengine] Re: LogService down?

[Andrin von Rechenberg]

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7028

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Andrin von Rechenberg
wrote:

> Hey there all my calls to LogService.fetch time out.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Cheers,
> -Andrin
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[google-appengine] LogService down?

[Andrin von Rechenberg]

Hey there all my calls to LogService.fetch time out.

Anyone else seeing this?

Cheers,
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Re: [google-appengine] A bug that hits every 4 years* and takes everything

[Andrin von Rechenberg]

At least it's not your birthday today :)

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> Since the models were included in every request, it brought down the app
> completely, wish I checked any page before going to sleep or used timedelta
> instead :)
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[google-appengine] Re: Javaland scheduler behavior

[tempy]

I should have looked at this thread before posting my own (http://
groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/
7ff808e8243562cf#).

I'm using GAE as a sync-backend for a smallish app, so my traffic is
very bursty, with long idle periods. I've been seeing exactly what you
describe for the past few days, although I haven't changed my
scheduler settings in many months (1 idle instance, 7s min pending
latency.)

Maybe they changed something so that the scheduler is now avoiding
sending requests to that one idle instance at all costs. This results
in requests sitting in the pending queue for those 7 seconds, and then
a new instance is started - so many requests to my idle app are
waiting for 10s now, while the idle instance does exactly nothing.

The fact that this behavior has been coming and going, and also that
normal (non cold-start) requests have lately been much slower than
normal, leads me to suspect that this isn't a deliberate change but
some kind of instability in GAE that's been going on for days now. I'd
love to hear some feedback as to what's happening.

On Feb 29, 2:02 pm, Simon Knott  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I thought I was going crazy - in the past week or so the latter is exactly
> what I'm experiencing.  My free-tier app gets so little traffic at the
> moment that I was putting it down to that, but maybe it's not.
>
> I've tested it with just a single user and I'm seeing three instances
> started for a single page request, which has a three ajax calls on it.
>  What I see is the following:
>
>    - Static page loads which fires 3 ajax calls
>    - New instance gets started for the first ajax call
>    - Second ajax call also starts up a new instance, but the initialisation
>    is delayed until the first ajax call completes
>    - Third ajax call also starts up a new instance, but the initialisation
>    is delayed until the second ajax call completes
>
> All in all, the single page is taking 20+ seconds to load and ends up with
> three instances.  I don't have a lot of third-party libraries and
> initialisation of the server used to take 2-3 seconds, which seems to have
> elevated to 7 or 8 seconds in the last couple of weeks.  Even once the page
> is loaded, another ajax call can then trigger a new instance to be started
> - it's bonkers. There doesn't appear to be any concurrency, or reuse of
> existing instances, at all.  It is currently marked as thread-safe=true.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:33:14 UTC, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>
> > There's been a lot of discussion of the scheduler behavior in Pythonland,
> > but not much about it's "eccentricities" in Javaland.
>
> > I have a threadsafe=true Java app.  Let's say every request completes in
> > exactly 1s.  Settings are:  idle instances min 1 max 1, latency auto/auto.
> >    Here is what I expect:
>
> >  * Instance1 starts up and becomes permanently resident
> >  * Instance1 serves concurrent requests up to some arbitrary CPU capcity
> >  * When Instance1 exceeds capacity:
> >      * Instance2 starts warming up
> >      * All requests remain in the pending queue for Instance1, getting
> > processed at 1/s * concurrency
> >      * Instance2 is ready and starts processing new requests, sharing the
> > load with Instance1
>
> > What I actually see (as far as I can determine):
>
> >  * Instance1 starts up and becomes permanently resident
> >  * Instance1 supports almost no concurrency.  At most it's 2.  (no, my app
> > is not particularly compute intensive)
> >  * A new request comes in which for some reason can't be handled by
> > Instance1:
> >      * Instance2 starts warming up
> >      * The new request is blocked on Instance2's pending queue, waiting
> > 10-20s for Instance2 to be ready
> >      * In the mean time, Instance1 is actually idle
> >  * Another new request comes in and starts up Instance3
> >      * Possibly this is while Instance2 is warming up
> >      * AFAICT, Instance1 is taking a coffee break
>
> > The net result is that I have an idle website with 1 user (me) clicking
> > around and I've already gotten multiple 20s pauses and three instances.
> >  Something is seriously wrong here.  Whether or not it's rational to have
> > so many instances started, pending requests shouldn't be shunted to
> > non-warmed-up servers, right?
>
> > I've tried upping the min latency to a high value to see if this improves
> > the situation.  If this works... shouldn't min latency *always* be as high
> > as the startup time for an instance?
>
> > I know it's been said before, but it needs to be said again... the
> > guidance for scheduler configuration is really, really inadequate.
>
> > Jeff
>
> On Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:33:14 UTC, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>
> > There's been a lot of discussion of the scheduler behavior in Pythonland,
> > but not much about it's "eccentricities" in Javaland.
>
> > I have a threadsafe=true Java app.  Let's say every request completes in
> > exactly 1s. 

[google-appengine] Dead link in traffic splitting dialog box

[Brian Davenport]

Looking at the traffic splitting box has a getting started link to what I 
assume is a internal resource at google hq.
http://ahimsa.sfo.corp.google.com:/appengine/docs/adminconsole/trafficsplitting.html

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[google-appengine] Email to app is being bounced back?

[Martin Waller]

Hello,

Can anyone explain why my inbound email is getting bounced please?

Many thanks

Martin

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[google-appengine] A bug that hits every 4 years* and takes everything

[Kaan Soral]

lastEmail=db.DateTimeProperty(default=datetime(datetime.now().year-1,datetime.now().month,datetime.now().day,datetime.now().hour,datetime.now().minute),indexed=False)

Since the models were included in every request, it brought down the app 
completely, wish I checked any page before going to sleep or used timedelta 
instead :)

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[google-appengine] Many unnecessary instance starts in the last few days

[tempy]

Hello all,

I've just been seeing this behavior for the last few days. A request
comes into my lightly-loaded app that already has a nearly-idle
instance running. Instead of using that instance, it starts a new one
and that request suffers the cold-start penalty.

If I look at the "instances" graph on the admin console, then for
these days the blue total line is way over the "billed" and "active"
lines. What could be causing this behavior?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [google-appengine] Javaland scheduler behavior

[Mos]

Five days ago I run JMeter-Tests to check the performance of my application
with and without "threadsafe=true".
I'm in "no billing mode" and therefore just worked with one instance.

With  concurrent requests I expected a better throughput/ performance with
the threadsafe=true configuration.
This was not the case.  The result was the same with and without the
threadsafe configuration.

I tested between 10 and 100 concurrent requests, but no difference at all.

I seems like the "threadsafe=true" configuration is broken currently.

Cheers

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:

> There's been a lot of discussion of the scheduler behavior in Pythonland,
> but not much about it's "eccentricities" in Javaland.
>
> I have a threadsafe=true Java app.  Let's say every request completes in
> exactly 1s.  Settings are:  idle instances min 1 max 1, latency auto/auto.
>Here is what I expect:
>
>  * Instance1 starts up and becomes permanently resident
>  * Instance1 serves concurrent requests up to some arbitrary CPU capcity
>  * When Instance1 exceeds capacity:
>  * Instance2 starts warming up
>  * All requests remain in the pending queue for Instance1, getting
> processed at 1/s * concurrency
>  * Instance2 is ready and starts processing new requests, sharing the
> load with Instance1
>
> What I actually see (as far as I can determine):
>
>  * Instance1 starts up and becomes permanently resident
>  * Instance1 supports almost no concurrency.  At most it's 2.  (no, my app
> is not particularly compute intensive)
>  * A new request comes in which for some reason can't be handled by
> Instance1:
>  * Instance2 starts warming up
>  * The new request is blocked on Instance2's pending queue, waiting
> 10-20s for Instance2 to be ready
>  * In the mean time, Instance1 is actually idle
>  * Another new request comes in and starts up Instance3
>  * Possibly this is while Instance2 is warming up
>  * AFAICT, Instance1 is taking a coffee break
>
> The net result is that I have an idle website with 1 user (me) clicking
> around and I've already gotten multiple 20s pauses and three instances.
>  Something is seriously wrong here.  Whether or not it's rational to have
> so many instances started, pending requests shouldn't be shunted to
> non-warmed-up servers, right?
>
> I've tried upping the min latency to a high value to see if this improves
> the situation.  If this works... shouldn't min latency *always* be as high
> as the startup time for an instance?
>
> I know it's been said before, but it needs to be said again... the
> guidance for scheduler configuration is really, really inadequate.
>
> Jeff
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[google-appengine] [IMPORTANT] Requesting feedback for "App Engine connected Android support" in Google Plugin for Eclipse (GPE) !

[Sriram Saroop]

Hi folks,
I was wondering if any of you played around with the "App Engine connected
Android support" we introduced in GPE  last
year.
Here's the link to get started:
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/appengine_connected_android.html

It allows you to define a App Engine backend for your Android app, and uses
an RPC mechanism for your Android app to call into App Engine, and C2DM for
back-communication.
Here's a cool video from last year's Google IO on the same topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7SxNNC429U

We are looking to make the experience for using App Engine as a backend for
Android much better, and would love to hear your feedback!
Do ping us asap.

Cheers,
Sriram

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