[H] Broadcast Flag revisited or Corrupt Polititions and Lobbyists bumping uglies again..

[Stan Zaske]

Straight from the Electronic Freedom Foundation fellas! If you value your 
ability to record for fair usage at home I urge you to write your Congressional 
representatives and complain vigorously. Sure we can rush out and buy current 
tech to bypass anything they introduce hardware-wise but sooner or later it'll 
break down and need to be replaced not to mention the fact that technology 
marches on. We have to vigorously fight each and every effort by these pricks 
who are trying to make you and I into criminals because we timeshift or archive 
TV and Radio programming for personal usage. They're trying to overturn the 
Betamax Supreme Court decision that makes it legal to do so. Down with 
H.R.4569!!!


The Digital Transition Content Security Act (H.R.4569) - or 
Analog Hole bill - would force every video player or recorder 
with an analog output in America to watch for and obey a 
proprietary signal embedded in video broadcasts called a VEIL 
watermark. But how would such a detector work? What would be 
its cost? And how secure is the watermark? Security 
researchers don't know - because the company behind VEIL 
won't let them look at the technology without first obtaining 
a "license." A license to examine the VEIL specification 
costs $10,000 and requires signing a non-disclosure agreement 
that forbids revealing the details of the technology to 
others. Congress is choosing a technology that must be built 
into your systems, and it's not giving non-entertainment 
industry experts the opportunity to check out the technology 
first to make sure it doesn't break your systems, or, even 
worse, leave those systems vulnerable to attack.


A technology that is a basic component in almost every audio-
visual device, from camcorders to VCRs to TV cards - analog-
to-digital (A/D) converters - is about to be encumbered with 
mysterious and proprietary black box watermark technology. 
Congress is highly unqualified to mandate specific 
technologies for us; tech mandates like this are even more 
dangerous when there's no chance for independent review.


Oversight is impossible when third parties hold the keys to 
the law.  Write to your Representative now, and demand that 
Congress reject outright this bill with its undisclosed, 
proprietary provisions.  


Visit our Action Center now:


More Info:
Full text of the bill:


Ed Felten's attempts to examine VEIL:

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Wayne Johnson]

At 09:33 PM 1/27/2006, Gary VanderMolen typed:

Semi-naked? You can see more skin exposed on any public beach.


I had a friend email me the smallest legal bathing suit that is held 
together with fish line so all you see is 3 very small pieces of 
cloth. I don't know what beach this would be legal on but I know 
plenty where it wouldn't be.


Remember when thongs where things that you wore on your feet & anyone 
could wear them?



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Gary VanderMolen]

So semi naked booth babes is a balance?


Semi-naked? You can see more skin exposed on any public beach.


Gary VanderMolen

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Hayes Elkins]

From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:44:49 -0400


I'm pretty sure I saw them snuggling up to Hayes, so I think they pretty 
much snuggle on command. :)


T


Isn't that what a good woman is supposed to do?

Hayes=king.

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Ben Ruset]

Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:

At 01:22 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote:

LOL!  Man.  So if I try to consider other people's feelings and 
opinions I'm gay?  Christ.  No, I'm not.  I'm just thinking that it'd 
be cool if we could have a non-male dominated industry.


The French Maid industry seems to be predominantly female.

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Jin-Wei Tioh]

At 01:26 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote:
Based on your highly scientific study, of course.  I'll suggest a 
solution.  On alternating years, switch back and forth between booth babes 
and jocks.  I'll bet there will be a lot fewer pictures of Lopaka 
snuggling up to the jocks.  (Actually, thinking about it, he could be one 
of the jocks.)


T


Already done by nVIDIA. Didn't they switch to a male mascot (Mott/Mike?) :P
I'll just say this, Nalu, Dawn and Dusk were a heckuva lot better ;)

--
JW

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Jin-Wei Tioh]

At 01:22 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote:

LOL!  Man.  So if I try to consider other people's feelings and opinions 
I'm gay?  Christ.  No, I'm not.  I'm just thinking that it'd be cool if we 
could have a non-male dominated industry.


T


Hello Thane,

Not at all. You should have quote my second paragraph about the egalitarian 
bit. ;)


--
JW 

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 04:42 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


:>Wow.  Can you believe that all this time on this list I thought you were a
:>guy?  Sorry.
:
:  I should have expected that.

Just kidding, of course.


At least you didn't say I was gay (not that there's anything wrong 
with that.) :)


T 

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Anthony Q. Martin]

:
:At 02:15 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
:
:>Wow.  Can you believe that all this time on this list I thought you were a
:>guy?  Sorry.
:
:  I should have expected that.

Just kidding, of course.

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Anthony Q. Martin]

:At 02:32 PM 27/01/2006, Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:
:>Wow Thane, not asking you to turn in your man card or anything,
:>but are you of the fairer members?
:
:LOL!  Man.  So if I try to consider other people's feelings and
:opinions I'm gay?  Christ.  No, I'm not.  I'm just thinking that it'd
:be cool if we could have a non-male dominated industry.

Well, see, you hit the nail smack on the head.if the industry weren't so
male dominated, there'd be no need for "booth babes."

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 04:34 PM 27/01/2006, Wayne Johnson wrote:

At 02:26 PM 1/27/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed:
Based on your highly scientific study, of course.  I'll suggest a 
solution.  On alternating years, switch back and forth between 
booth babes and jocks.  I'll bet there will be a lot fewer pictures 
of Lopaka snuggling up to the jocks.  (Actually, thinking about it, 
he could be one of the jocks.)


I thought Lopaka being a jock was how he got the booth babes to 
snuggle up to him in the first place. ;-)


I'm pretty sure I saw them snuggling up to Hayes, so I think they 
pretty much snuggle on command. :)


T 

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Wayne Johnson]

At 02:26 PM 1/27/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed:
Based on your highly scientific study, of course.  I'll suggest a 
solution.  On alternating years, switch back and forth between booth 
babes and jocks.  I'll bet there will be a lot fewer pictures of 
Lopaka snuggling up to the jocks.  (Actually, thinking about it, he 
could be one of the jocks.)


I thought Lopaka being a jock was how he got the booth babes to 
snuggle up to him in the first place. ;-)



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 02:32 PM 27/01/2006, Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:

Wow Thane, not asking you to turn in your man card or anything,
but are you of the fairer members?


LOL!  Man.  So if I try to consider other people's feelings and 
opinions I'm gay?  Christ.  No, I'm not.  I'm just thinking that it'd 
be cool if we could have a non-male dominated industry.


T

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:00 PM 27/01/2006, warpmedia wrote:
Right and for every 1 of those kind of women there are at least 2 
more that are not degraded by it or who could care less. There are 
women who realize that being in demand for their beauty is not 
degrading in itself any more than being in demand for their brains 
means they are being objectified as a "brain" (if they did, would 
they then complain about that?). You'd think that beauty & reveling 
in it is a crime or something the way some feminists act & look.


Based on your highly scientific study, of course.  I'll suggest a 
solution.  On alternating years, switch back and forth between booth 
babes and jocks.  I'll bet there will be a lot fewer pictures of 
Lopaka snuggling up to the jocks.  (Actually, thinking about it, he 
could be one of the jocks.)


Everyone has an axe to grind with the world and little of it is 
valid to the nth degree it gets pushed too when we try to "fix" it 
to make everything equal & fair. The real trick here is to come up 
with a balance, not all or nothing.


So semi naked booth babes is a balance?

T 

Re: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[warpmedia]

Right and for every 1 of those kind of women there are at least 2 more 
that are not degraded by it or who could care less. There are women who 
realize that being in demand for their beauty is not degrading in itself 
any more than being in demand for their brains means they are being 
objectified as a "brain" (if they did, would they then complain about 
that?). You'd think that beauty & reveling in it is a crime or something 
the way some feminists act & look.


Everyone has an axe to grind with the world and little of it is valid to 
the nth degree it gets pushed too when we try to "fix" it to make 
everything equal & fair. The real trick here is to come up with a 
balance, not all or nothing.


Of course I don't see a problem because it's not causing me one, but I 
also doubt it's causing problem to the degree that whatever "X" group is 
complaining it is. Discussing things is good until some asses get 
involved with the power to push it to the other extreme and human 
history is littered with those kinds of asses on all sides.


Thane Sherrington (S) wrote:

At 12:00 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


Sausage fest?  Who's degrading who.


LOL!  That degrades you?


How can you know who feels degraded by "booth babes"?


Pretty easily.  Virtually any woman who doesn't want to be seen as a 
pair of breasts.


I don't see a problem with "booth babes" myself, though I've never 
been to a

show (I did do a Comdex a long time ago).


Of course you don't see a problem.  You're not a woman.

T

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 02:15 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


Wow.  Can you believe that all this time on this list I thought you were a
guy?  Sorry.


  I should have expected that.

T 

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Jin-Wei Tioh]

Wow Thane, not asking you to turn in your man card or anything,
but are you of the fairer members?

Of course, please do not take any offense with my question. Today's
society is apparently more egalitarian. ;)

--
JW

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Anthony Q. Martin]

:-Original Message-
:At 12:00 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
:
:>Sausage fest?  Who's degrading who.
:
:LOL!  That degrades you?
:
:>How can you know who feels degraded by "booth babes"?
:
:Pretty easily.  Virtually any woman who doesn't want to be seen as a
:pair of breasts.
:
:>I don't see a problem with "booth babes" myself, though I've never been to
:a
:>show (I did do a Comdex a long time ago).
:
:Of course you don't see a problem.  You're not a woman.
:
:T

Wow.  Can you believe that all this time on this list I thought you were a
guy?  Sorry.

:)

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 12:00 PM 27/01/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:


Sausage fest?  Who's degrading who.


LOL!  That degrades you?


How can you know who feels degraded by "booth babes"?


Pretty easily.  Virtually any woman who doesn't want to be seen as a 
pair of breasts.



I don't see a problem with "booth babes" myself, though I've never been to a
show (I did do a Comdex a long time ago).


Of course you don't see a problem.  You're not a woman.

T 

Re: [H] Podcast software?

[j m g]

I just dumped juice (and started using itunes for podcatching) a
little bit ago but could of sworn there was a setting to set genre to
podcast or some such.

I just found fireant - rss aggregator for media - and givinig it a try



On 1/27/06, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am currently using Juice and while it works fine there are a couple
> of things I don't like about it.  The biggest is that I can't have it
> retag files as they are coming in.  Most of the podcasts that I have
> seen either don't have their ID3 tags set properly or they don't have
> them set the way I have my Library setup :)
>
> Anyone found software that will do this?  Schedule and download RSS
> feeds and allow you to set/override ID3 tags?
>
> --
> Brian
>
>


--
-jmg
-sapere aude

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Wayne Johnson]

At 11:00 AM 1/27/2006, Anthony Q. Martin typed:

Sausage fest?  Who's degrading who.

How can you know who feels degraded by "booth babes"?

I don't see a problem with "booth babes" myself, though I've never been to a
show (I did do a Comdex a long time ago).


Years ago I would go to all the Detroit Auto Shows at Cobo Hall to 
take pics of all the booth babes & the cars. I was able to get a 
bunch of models for nada that way. Most of them sure took to the 
camera & when I explained that I was an aspiring photographer trying 
to put a portfolio together many of them would model for me on the 
side free of charge since many of them were aspiring models so I'd 
give them my shots as a gratuity or was that something else that was 
a gratuity? ;-)



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Anthony Q. Martin]

At 02:36 PM 26/01/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
>Booth babes are not gonna go away. Sex sells and no body will stop using
>hot girls to sell their products. They might just tone it down a bit
>which is fine by me.

:While I'm all for looking at hot women in skimpy clothing, there are 
:plenty of places and proper venues for doing this.  Booth babes 
:degrade the show, alienate over half the population, and turn the 
:entire industry into a sausage fest.  It's pretty pathetic.

Sausage fest?  Who's degrading who.

How can you know who feels degraded by "booth babes"?

I don't see a problem with "booth babes" myself, though I've never been to a
show (I did do a Comdex a long time ago).

[H] Podcast software?

[Brian Weeden]

I am currently using Juice and while it works fine there are a couple
of things I don't like about it.  The biggest is that I can't have it
retag files as they are coming in.  Most of the podcasts that I have
seen either don't have their ID3 tags set properly or they don't have
them set the way I have my Library setup :)

Anyone found software that will do this?  Schedule and download RSS
feeds and allow you to set/override ID3 tags?

--
Brian

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[FORC5]

agree, I wonder how much programing goes into a game on ps2 to make boobs 
bounce >:-}
then there is the language, another topic.
fp

At 07:03 AM 1/27/2006, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with:
>>From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: The Hardware List 
>>To: The Hardware List 
>>Subject: RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:28:26 -0400
>>
>>
>>Booth babes degrade the show, alienate over half the population, and turn the 
>>entire industry into a sausage fest. T
>
>Computer gaming is a sausage fest? That's a newsflash :)
>

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
A lie is terminological inexactitude.

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Hayes Elkins]

From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: The Hardware List 
Subject: RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:28:26 -0400


Booth babes degrade the show, alienate over half the population, and turn 
the entire industry into a sausage fest. T


Computer gaming is a sausage fest? That's a newsflash :)

RE: [H] Booth babes banned from E3 2006

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 02:36 PM 26/01/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:

Booth babes are not gonna go away. Sex sells and no body will stop using
hot girls to sell their products. They might just tone it down a bit
which is fine by me.


While I'm all for looking at hot women in skimpy clothing, there are 
plenty of places and proper venues for doing this.  Booth babes 
degrade the show, alienate over half the population, and turn the 
entire industry into a sausage fest.  It's pretty pathetic.


T 

Re: [H] Holophonic sound

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:20 PM 26/01/2006, Julian Zottl wrote:
Listening on a cheap pair of headphones, it was AMAZING the sound 
that was produced.


I used a pair of cheapie speakers, and sat between them, and I could 
actually hear the sound move around me, below me and above me.  It's 
pretty incredible, and I'm hoping we see this added to movies - even 
if they leave 5.1+ systems in place, and simply use holophonic for 
above and below, it would be great.


T