Re: [H] Freenas & Nas4free any experience?

2014-07-08 Thread Greg Sevart
I'm inclined to blame the 3ware. I never used one that impressed me in the
slightest, though 5mbps certainly suggests a deeper issue.

In any case, I'd consider snagging a Dell PERC6 or PERC H700 off ebay. I
just did a series of RAID5 and RAID6 tests on a bench PERC6 and a used PERC
H700 I got off ebay for $100. Both of these cards are based on slightly
altered LSI MegaRAID adapters and even support using LSI's management
software, though note that the PERC6 does not support physical disks > 2TB.
All tests performed using 8x2TB Toshiba HDDs. CrystalDiskMark sequential
using a 4000MB test file:

PERC6 RAID5: 791MB/s read, 485MB/s write
PERC6 RAID6: 671MB/s read, 398MB/s write
H700 RAID5: 1086MB/s read, 1015MB/s write *this is effectively the
theoretical peak potential of the underlying HDDs*
H700 RAID6: 937MB/s read, 704MB/s write

Disks are also important. Either buy RAID-rated disks, or Toshiba's DT01ACA
series. Expect everything else to cause problems.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Martin Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:26 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Freenas & Nas4free any experience?

I have been working on retiring an old freenas box so I built a nice server
with spare parts running freenas 9.xxx x64. I have a hardware raid array
(3x3TB raid 5) on a 3ware 12 port contoller. The interface is way different
than what I'm used to but I can deal with that. The transfer speeds are
horrible though and pause about every 20 seconds. I'm only averaging 5 mbps
compared to 55 MB/s on my drobo5n. This is actually a backup for my drobo5n
that will get powered on about 1x every 2 mos to update any new files, etc. 

I've heard nas4free is a little more solid compared to newer versions of
freenas. Never tried it though. 

Suggestions? Write caching is turned on - still slow as hell

lopaka




Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Greg Sevart
I've never experienced what the OP describes, despite working with a fairly 
large number of GPT disks with my large arrays and moving them between OS 
installations. I'm pretty sure there's something else going on here. Excepting 
being mindful of OS (and utility) support, GPT does not require any special 
handling compared to MBR.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
Thane Sherrington
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:48 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

At 10:14 AM 08/07/2014, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:
>OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
>thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake 
>you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or 
>removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues at all. I don't 
>know this for certain but someday I'll have the chance to check this 
>out. However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course 
>of advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there. 
>Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys. Regards,

Hi Joeuser,
 Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go into 
diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 couldn't see it 
at all?

T 







[H] Freenas & Nas4free any experience?

2014-07-08 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I have been working on retiring an old freenas box so I built a nice server 
with spare parts running freenas 9.xxx x64. I have a hardware raid array (3x3TB 
raid 5) on a 3ware 12 port contoller. The interface is way different than what 
I'm used to but I can deal with that. The transfer speeds are horrible though 
and pause about every 20 seconds. I'm only averaging 5 mbps compared to 55 MB/s 
on my drobo5n. This is actually a backup for my drobo5n that will get powered 
on about 1x every 2 mos to update any new files, etc. 

I've heard nas4free is a little more solid compared to newer versions of 
freenas. Never tried it though. 

Suggestions? Write caching is turned on - still slow as hell

lopaka


Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 10:14 AM 08/07/2014, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same 
mistake you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be 
unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues 
at all. I don't know this for certain but someday I'll have the 
chance to check this out. However, if you didn't know any better, 
like me, the best course of advice is to just reattach the drive 
where it was & go from there. Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH 
you guys. Regards,


Hi Joeuser,
Thanks for the update.  So if you have a GPT disk, you go 
into diskmgmt.msc and unmount it?  I thought you said that Windows 7 
couldn't see it at all?


T 






Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thanks for this. I have a box full of GPT drivesI was wondering what 
I'd do if I needed to upgrade the host mobo...as it is starting to get 
old.  As all I have are mkv rips from my blu-ray collection, this would 
be a LOT of work to do over. So one day I just want to move the drives 
over to a new box.


On 7/8/2014 9:14 AM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake
you'll know what to do.

I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then
there will be no issues at all. I don't know this for certain but
someday I'll have the chance to check this out.

However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course of
advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there.

Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys.

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


 Original Message 
Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
From: 
Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com


Have a 3TB disk I installed in my Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of
stuff & pull the drive for safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB
support. I pulled drive then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the
drive. Win7 acted like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it
asked me if I wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format
the drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is
making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - I
did not format...


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."




Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread FORC5
one of my SSD's are listed as GPT, NO idea how this happened. Only 
used for storage. There two identical, only is listed GPT when I run Diskpart
Thought about trying to get rid of that, not sure why. They are only 
250gb drives.

no harm I suppose, just no idea where the gpt came from.
fp

At 06:14 AM 7/8/2014, joeu...@chronic.org Poked the stick with:
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I 
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same 
mistake you'll know what to do. I guess GPT disks need to be 
unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then there will be no issues 
at all. I don't know this for certain but someday I'll have the 
chance to check this out. However, if you didn't know any better, 
like me, the best course of advice is to just reattach the drive 
where it was & go from there. Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH 
you guys. Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... 
"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..." >  
Original Message  > Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?! > From: 
 > Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am > To: 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > > Have a 3TB disk I installed in my 
Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of > stuff & pull the drive for 
safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB > support. I pulled drive 
then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the > drive. Win7 acted 
like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it > asked me if I 
wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format > the 
drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is > 
making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - 
I > did not format... > > > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for 
the 'any' key... > > "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."


Date:  Tuesday, July 8th, 2014

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Re: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!

2014-07-08 Thread joeuser
OK, I found out what needs to be done & since no one else knows I
thought I'd share it with you. This way, if you make the same mistake
you'll know what to do.

I guess GPT disks need to be unmounted or removed from disk mgmt & then
there will be no issues at all. I don't know this for certain but
someday I'll have the chance to check this out.

However, if you didn't know any better, like me, the best course of
advice is to just reattach the drive where it was & go from there.

Big differences from MBR to GPT. HTH you guys. 

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."

>  Original Message 
> Subject: [H] GPT_disk_moving?!
> From: 
> Date: Sun, July 06, 2014 3:08 am
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> 
> 
> Have a 3TB disk I installed in my Win7 box. Planned to backup a bunch of
> stuff & pull the drive for safe keeping. I used GPT as it has the 3TB
> support. I pulled drive then put it on a SATA to USB 3 cable to read the
> drive. Win7 acted like it never saw it. I opened disk management & it
> asked me if I wanted MBR or GPT... I picked GPT & now it wants to format
> the drive... WTF did I do?! GPT is foreign to me & Google searching is
> making me panic with results! I stopped after selecting GPT, again - I
> did not format...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
> 
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."