Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
I think the point is that he _doesn't_ want to have to restart the screen instance every time. With this, all it takes is to start the instance once. It isn't a bash script, just a shell session. Bash itself. On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 12:51 -0500, Chuck Gibke wrote: > The sysadmin would still have to initiate the bash script since he can > access the "games" user. > > I use a stop_css script on my server that looks like this: > /usr/bin/screen -r css -X quit > > "css" is the name assigned to the screen instance. This causes the server > program to exit gracefully but also closes the screen instance. It would > still require admin privileges to start back up. > > > ..Chuck > > Suse 9.0-64 > > > > >> > Yeah, but those solutions require his sysadmin to get off his lazy butt > and grant him privileges. (Or it could just be that the sysadmin has a > strict security policy). Running a bash instance inside screen takes no > additional pain on the part of either of them. > > -John Sheu > > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 09:13 +0100, Regime wrote: > > Alternitively, get him to look into "sudo" and grant you permission to > > "sudo" all or some commands as the games user. Type in "man sudo" for > > more information. > > > > >> The servers are running on screens, but not under my user > > >>account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the > screen, I > > >>wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I > don't > > >>have the privileges to do so. > > >> > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: << > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Re: steam updater tool keeps locking
> Nope, at least once monthly we push gigs back and forth between boxes on > the network for backup and updates, mostly using ftp because of wget's > limitations on file size. None of which fail. Even if, the steam > updater is file by file isn't it? I assume that for those transfers, traffic is via LAN. You won't see the problem there. Can you test a large FTP transfer inbound via your WAN link and see if you get the symptom showing up during that transfer. Another way to test is to check if you can ping the update server and then to do a couple of low volume large payload ping tests (try payloads of 1400bytes, 2000 bytes and 4000 bytes sending only 10 packets or so per test). If the 1400 byte payloads work and the higher payload sizes fail then you probably have an MTU mismatch or someone between you and the update server is blocking ICMP "Fragmentation needed but DF set". Have a look at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/38.shtml for more info about this sort of problem and for how to turn off PMTUD on different several operating systems. -- Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
I think the point is that he _doesn't_ want to have to restart the screen instance every time. With this, all it takes is to start the instance once. It isn't a bash script, just a shell session. Bash itself. On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 12:51 -0500, Chuck Gibke wrote: > The sysadmin would still have to initiate the bash script since he can > access the "games" user. > > I use a stop_css script on my server that looks like this: > /usr/bin/screen -r css -X quit > > "css" is the name assigned to the screen instance. This causes the server > program to exit gracefully but also closes the screen instance. It would > still require admin privileges to start back up. > > > ..Chuck > > Suse 9.0-64 > > > > >> > Yeah, but those solutions require his sysadmin to get off his lazy butt > and grant him privileges. (Or it could just be that the sysadmin has a > strict security policy). Running a bash instance inside screen takes no > additional pain on the part of either of them. > > -John Sheu > > On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 09:13 +0100, Regime wrote: > > Alternitively, get him to look into "sudo" and grant you permission to > > "sudo" all or some commands as the games user. Type in "man sudo" for > > more information. > > > > >> The servers are running on screens, but not under my user > > >>account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the > screen, I > > >>wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I > don't > > >>have the privileges to do so. > > >> > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: << > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
The sysadmin would still have to initiate the bash script since he can access the "games" user. I use a stop_css script on my server that looks like this: /usr/bin/screen -r css -X quit "css" is the name assigned to the screen instance. This causes the server program to exit gracefully but also closes the screen instance. It would still require admin privileges to start back up. ..Chuck Suse 9.0-64 >> Yeah, but those solutions require his sysadmin to get off his lazy butt and grant him privileges. (Or it could just be that the sysadmin has a strict security policy). Running a bash instance inside screen takes no additional pain on the part of either of them. -John Sheu On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 09:13 +0100, Regime wrote: > Alternitively, get him to look into "sudo" and grant you permission to > "sudo" all or some commands as the games user. Type in "man sudo" for > more information. > > >> The servers are running on screens, but not under my user > >>account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the screen, I > >>wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I don't > >>have the privileges to do so. > >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: << ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
Yeah, but those solutions require his sysadmin to get off his lazy butt and grant him privileges. (Or it could just be that the sysadmin has a strict security policy). Running a bash instance inside screen takes no additional pain on the part of either of them. -John Sheu On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 09:13 +0100, Regime wrote: > Alternitively, get him to look into "sudo" and grant you permission to > "sudo" all or some commands as the games user. Type in "man sudo" for > more information. > > >> The servers are running on screens, but not under my user > >>account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the screen, I > >>wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I don't > >>have the privileges to do so. > >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] steam updater tool keeps locking
forb wrote: Nope, at least once monthly we push gigs back and forth between boxes on the network for backup and updates, mostly using ftp because of wget's limitations on file size. None of which fail. Even if, the steam updater is file by file isn't it? What's wrong with rsync? (sorry if this has been asked, I don't have the thread preceding this message) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
Yory not just trying to detach from the screen are you ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James D Sent: Monday, 31 October 2005 2:48 p.m. To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] It sounds like he needs to make up his mind. He needs to give you the 'games' user access or you can't really maintain it correctly. Alex W wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I should elaborate on how the server is set up. I'm not the owner of the server, but he has given me permission to maintain it, so he set up an SSH account for me. The servers are running on screens, but not under my user account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the screen, I wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I don't have the privileges to do so. I just wanted to know of a more 'graceful' exit command to quit out of the srcds program; instead of using 'ctrl + c' or killing the screen altogether. I guess it doesn't matter. Would be useful for the future, though. On 10/30/05, James D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[1] wrote: If the server is shut down what is the point of having a screen running? Kill the server, kill the screen. Restart them both together. Alex W wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I want to completely exit out of the srcds program. I have the server running in a screen, but I don't want to kill the screen. 'exit' and 'quit' shutdown the server, but then restart it. Does anybody know the console command to completely exit out of the srcds program? Additionally, does anybody have a list of all the console commands that I could use? Thanks. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[2] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[3] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[4] ===References:=== 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux 3. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux 4. http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Exit srcds
Alternitively, get him to look into "sudo" and grant you permission to "sudo" all or some commands as the games user. Type in "man sudo" for more information. The servers are running on screens, but not under my user account - they're running on a 'games' user. If I were to kill the screen, I wouldn't be able to create a new screen under the 'games' user since I don't have the privileges to do so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux