Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

2012-01-23 Thread doc
Uhh... congratulations?
http://xkcd.com/538/

(Also not to be one of "those guys" [not that you seem to mind] but $550 in
a steam account isn't anything worth drooling over. A quick glance at
http://www.steamcalculator.com/ shows me that I have double that in my
steam account, and I'm not going to go through the trouble of spoofing my
MAC address - really that's just starting to get a bit full of one's
importance.)

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Aaron "DJ Zyrphon" Thompson <
rmesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would have just said "if it is sent to spam, it's spam" or "there's no
> such thing as a VAC admin and a Valve staff member will not randomly ask
> for your password" or just plain old "don't be an idiot and share your
> password." Honestly, you are just boasting rather than complaining. No one
> cares if you own lemmings or TMNT on Steam just so you can flaunt your
> successes. No one wants to know about your 6 servers or your 5 accounts. We
> all just want to protect our property. Everything you said was inspiring,
> maybe, but not influential. PLEASE don't post about security again, you're
> all spamming my inbox. People who are truly concerned are exempt from this,
> but the rest who just bitch about change should go play a different game on
> a different platform.
>
> This is my first and last time complaining. Hope you all enjoyed it. :D
>
> Sent from my MOTOBLURâ„¢ smartphone on AT&T
>
> -Original message-
> From: Kdog <1poc...@comcast.net>
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 03:10:19 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48
>
> I've never liked STEAM GUARD, especially having it forced on all of my
> accounts without me knowing. I have 5 accounts due to buying two platinum
> packs way back in 1997. Out of all five of my steam accounts, I never once
> noticed that STEAM GUARD had been installed, much less activated, and I
> play
> and run 6 game servers.
>
> I use random generated passwords from " https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm";
> these passwords are truely random and based on entrapy, (not pseudo
> random).
> the only way you're getting you're account hijacked is if you're lazy and
> or
> dumb, and use a stupid password, Or you get a virus from someone who realy
> wants to harvest you'rte steam account. Not likely, because there's a lot
> of
> other information/files that are much more valuable then a STEAM account to
> someone who can hack you're PC. I disabled STEAM GUARD on all of my
> accounts
> and will most likely never use it on any of them. One of my accounts is
> worth over $550.
>
> EVEN IF ONE OF YOU had the ability to hijack my account using some sort of
> Winxp exploit, you would have to know my IP address.
> Thats why I will reset it (by spoofing my mac address) after sending this
> message to the list, so that you wont be able to check the email headers to
> see my IP.
> I will also change the name that I post under on this list. You just have
> to
> be smart, if you're not, then you get whats coming to you. That has always
> been the way of the net and will get even more so as time goes on.
>
> Mark my words, due to cyber terrorism, one day you will have to take a test
> in order to own a PC that connects to the WWW.
> I think you should have to do that now just to be called a human being.
> :Peace
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:00 PM
> Subject: hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:35:46 +
> > From: Yuki 
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another high profile trader/admin hijacked.
> > Message-ID: <4f1c6512.2070...@dazzozo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > What reasoning is behind this? If someone wants to disable it, let them
> > disable it. It's their fault if they get jacked and obviously it wasn't
> > worth a few seconds of their time. Why sacrifice choice for... nothing?
> > Sure, maybe it should be on "ALWAYS" for you, so leave it on?
> >
> > On 22/01/2012 19:33, javato...@yahoo.es wrote:
> >> I think steam guard should be on ALWAYS, theres no point to disable
> >> it. It just take 2 minutes to enable a new computer so shoulnt be an
> >> option to be able to disable it. Just my opinion...
> >>> SteamGuard can be d

Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

2012-01-22 Thread Aaron "DJ Zyrphon" Thompson
I would have just said "if it is sent to spam, it's spam" or "there's no such 
thing as a VAC admin and a Valve staff member will not randomly ask for your 
password" or just plain old "don't be an idiot and share your password." 
Honestly, you are just boasting rather than complaining. No one cares if you 
own lemmings or TMNT on Steam just so you can flaunt your successes. No one 
wants to know about your 6 servers or your 5 accounts. We all just want to 
protect our property. Everything you said was inspiring, maybe, but not 
influential. PLEASE don't post about security again, you're all spamming my 
inbox. People who are truly concerned are exempt from this, but the rest who 
just bitch about change should go play a different game on a different platform.

This is my first and last time complaining. Hope you all enjoyed it. :D

Sent from my MOTOBLURâ„¢ smartphone on AT&T

-Original message-
From: Kdog <1poc...@comcast.net>
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 03:10:19 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

I've never liked STEAM GUARD, especially having it forced on all of my 
accounts without me knowing. I have 5 accounts due to buying two platinum 
packs way back in 1997. Out of all five of my steam accounts, I never once 
noticed that STEAM GUARD had been installed, much less activated, and I play 
and run 6 game servers.

I use random generated passwords from " https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm " 
these passwords are truely random and based on entrapy, (not pseudo random).
the only way you're getting you're account hijacked is if you're lazy and or 
dumb, and use a stupid password, Or you get a virus from someone who realy 
wants to harvest you'rte steam account. Not likely, because there's a lot of 
other information/files that are much more valuable then a STEAM account to 
someone who can hack you're PC. I disabled STEAM GUARD on all of my accounts 
and will most likely never use it on any of them. One of my accounts is 
worth over $550.

EVEN IF ONE OF YOU had the ability to hijack my account using some sort of 
Winxp exploit, you would have to know my IP address.
Thats why I will reset it (by spoofing my mac address) after sending this 
message to the list, so that you wont be able to check the email headers to 
see my IP.
I will also change the name that I post under on this list. You just have to 
be smart, if you're not, then you get whats coming to you. That has always 
been the way of the net and will get even more so as time goes on.

Mark my words, due to cyber terrorism, one day you will have to take a test 
in order to own a PC that connects to the WWW.
I think you should have to do that now just to be called a human being. 
:Peace

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:35:46 +
> From: Yuki 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> 
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another high profile trader/admin hijacked.
> Message-ID: <4f1c6512.2070...@dazzozo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> What reasoning is behind this? If someone wants to disable it, let them
> disable it. It's their fault if they get jacked and obviously it wasn't
> worth a few seconds of their time. Why sacrifice choice for... nothing?
> Sure, maybe it should be on "ALWAYS" for you, so leave it on?
>
> On 22/01/2012 19:33, javato...@yahoo.es wrote:
>> I think steam guard should be on ALWAYS, theres no point to disable
>> it. It just take 2 minutes to enable a new computer so shoulnt be an
>> option to be able to disable it. Just my opinion...
>>> SteamGuard can be disabled entirely from a trusted computer without
>>> *any* notification or hassle.
>>> Don't like this.
> End of hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48
> ** 


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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

2012-01-22 Thread Carl

Could you never post again?  The SNR in here is plummeting.



On 1/22/2012 10:09 PM, Kdog wrote:
I've never liked STEAM GUARD, especially having it forced on all of my 
accounts without me knowing. I have 5 accounts due to buying two 
platinum packs way back in 1997. Out of all five of my steam accounts, 
I never once noticed that STEAM GUARD had been installed, much less 
activated, and I play and run 6 game servers.


I use random generated passwords from " 
https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm " these passwords are truely random 
and based on entrapy, (not pseudo random).
the only way you're getting you're account hijacked is if you're lazy 
and or dumb, and use a stupid password, Or you get a virus from 
someone who realy wants to harvest you'rte steam account. Not likely, 
because there's a lot of other information/files that are much more 
valuable then a STEAM account to someone who can hack you're PC. I 
disabled STEAM GUARD on all of my accounts and will most likely never 
use it on any of them. One of my accounts is worth over $550.


EVEN IF ONE OF YOU had the ability to hijack my account using some 
sort of Winxp exploit, you would have to know my IP address.
Thats why I will reset it (by spoofing my mac address) after sending 
this message to the list, so that you wont be able to check the email 
headers to see my IP.
I will also change the name that I post under on this list. You just 
have to be smart, if you're not, then you get whats coming to you. 
That has always been the way of the net and will get even more so as 
time goes on.


Mark my words, due to cyber terrorism, one day you will have to take a 
test in order to own a PC that connects to the WWW.
I think you should have to do that now just to be called a human 
being. :Peace


- Original Message - From: 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:35:46 +
From: Yuki 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another high profile trader/admin hijacked.
Message-ID: <4f1c6512.2070...@dazzozo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

What reasoning is behind this? If someone wants to disable it, let them
disable it. It's their fault if they get jacked and obviously it wasn't
worth a few seconds of their time. Why sacrifice choice for... nothing?
Sure, maybe it should be on "ALWAYS" for you, so leave it on?

On 22/01/2012 19:33, javato...@yahoo.es wrote:

I think steam guard should be on ALWAYS, theres no point to disable
it. It just take 2 minutes to enable a new computer so shoulnt be an
option to be able to disable it. Just my opinion...

SteamGuard can be disabled entirely from a trusted computer without
*any* notification or hassle.
Don't like this.

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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

2012-01-22 Thread Kdog
I've never liked STEAM GUARD, especially having it forced on all of my 
accounts without me knowing. I have 5 accounts due to buying two platinum 
packs way back in 1997. Out of all five of my steam accounts, I never once 
noticed that STEAM GUARD had been installed, much less activated, and I play 
and run 6 game servers.


I use random generated passwords from " https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm " 
these passwords are truely random and based on entrapy, (not pseudo random).
the only way you're getting you're account hijacked is if you're lazy and or 
dumb, and use a stupid password, Or you get a virus from someone who realy 
wants to harvest you'rte steam account. Not likely, because there's a lot of 
other information/files that are much more valuable then a STEAM account to 
someone who can hack you're PC. I disabled STEAM GUARD on all of my accounts 
and will most likely never use it on any of them. One of my accounts is 
worth over $550.


EVEN IF ONE OF YOU had the ability to hijack my account using some sort of 
Winxp exploit, you would have to know my IP address.
Thats why I will reset it (by spoofing my mac address) after sending this 
message to the list, so that you wont be able to check the email headers to 
see my IP.
I will also change the name that I post under on this list. You just have to 
be smart, if you're not, then you get whats coming to you. That has always 
been the way of the net and will get even more so as time goes on.


Mark my words, due to cyber terrorism, one day you will have to take a test 
in order to own a PC that connects to the WWW.
I think you should have to do that now just to be called a human being. 
:Peace


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48

--

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:35:46 +
From: Yuki 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list

Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Another high profile trader/admin hijacked.
Message-ID: <4f1c6512.2070...@dazzozo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

What reasoning is behind this? If someone wants to disable it, let them
disable it. It's their fault if they get jacked and obviously it wasn't
worth a few seconds of their time. Why sacrifice choice for... nothing?
Sure, maybe it should be on "ALWAYS" for you, so leave it on?

On 22/01/2012 19:33, javato...@yahoo.es wrote:

I think steam guard should be on ALWAYS, theres no point to disable
it. It just take 2 minutes to enable a new computer so shoulnt be an
option to be able to disable it. Just my opinion...

SteamGuard can be disabled entirely from a trusted computer without
*any* notification or hassle.
Don't like this.

End of hlds_linux Digest, Vol 47, Issue 48
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