Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
Giovanni Battista Venturi: Brilliant physicist, hardly obscuri; You can't be a boob To name an Effect, Pump and Tube And that's the end of the sturi. John Kowalchuk wrote: Veering ever so close to NHR territory, I would suspect that since it is a proper name, Venturi should remain intact. John Kowalchuk Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://kowalchukmutes.com Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn- bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:39 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Thank you, John, for setting us straight. "Ventura" bothered me subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the singular be venturo, or is it one ventura, two venture ?-) Herb Foster From: John Kowalchuk To: The Horn List Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:08:31 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Every time this subject comes up I wonder about the symantics. Is it venturi or ventura? I finally spent five seconds looking it up and learned Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746-1822) discovered the venturi effect which is named after him. So it is one venturi, several venturis. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Mouthpiece to lead-pipe fit
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:30:50 EDT, kendallbe...@aol.com writes: Yes, Tina, if you purchase a Lawson lead-pipe, you can get a Lawson mouthpiece that will fit perfectly and match the acoustic. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I have not always found this to be true. During the many years that I played on a Lawson Fourier, my various Lawson mouthpieces went into the receiver at different depths. But the combination of Lawson leadpipe and mouthpiece was certainly an excellent one! Sincerely, Cameron Kopf ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn
Unlike a trombone where the leadpipe is contained or hidden by the outer slide, on a horn what you see from the mouthpiece to the change valve is the leadpipe. It is easy to see any damage, dents, dings, and other things like red rot [dezincification]. any holes that happen will be pretty visible if you keep and eye on it. and yes the typical metal problems occurr just as much as any other instrument. paxmaha From: Kathy Lowe To: hornlist Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 2:05:28 PM Subject: [Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn I have a question on very old horns and lead pipes. My husband owns several old trombones (1940 and older) that have had to have the lead pipe replaced. When the pipes were removed, at best they looked like swiss cheese, at worse they came out in pieces. Can the same thing happen to the inside of a horn lead pipe (brass is brass after all) and how would you tell if your old trusty horn needs a new lead pipe? A trombone slide you can look through, but even then you can't tell if that pipe will come out in one piece or not. Kathy Anaheim, CA P.S. Do not watch a slide guru work on a trombone slide if you are the least bit faint of heart. Scary. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/paxmaha%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] lead pipes: was Receiver size on Selman double horn
I have a question on very old horns and lead pipes. My husband owns several old trombones (1940 and older) that have had to have the lead pipe replaced. When the pipes were removed, at best they looked like swiss cheese, at worse they came out in pieces. Can the same thing happen to the inside of a horn lead pipe (brass is brass after all) and how would you tell if your old trusty horn needs a new lead pipe? A trombone slide you can look through, but even then you can't tell if that pipe will come out in one piece or not. Kathy Anaheim, CA P.S. Do not watch a slide guru work on a trombone slide if you are the least bit faint of heart. Scary. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
Folks, I bought the proper tool with which to measure these things (thanks to Paul for pointing me to an ebay auction), and I will report on my findings once it arrives here. -S- On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM, wrote: > Jeremy wrote: > > "You can have whatever length of taper you'd like. It's the rate of > taper that's important. If the rate of taper of both the leadpipe and > the mouthpice are identical (which is an agreed upon standard), then > your mouthpiece could go in .1" or 2" and it won't make any > difference. That is of course as long as the end of the mouthpiece > and the venturi line up (which, if the rate of taper is the same, they > should)" > > Jeremy, > > The problem with this in practice, is that even though the mouthpiece shank > and the negative taper of the mouthpipe have the same rate of taper, it does > not mean they will line up. > > When you have a certain rate of taper, the dimensions of two pieces lining > up are only similar if they are cut at the correct ( meaning the same > dimensional ) place. > You could theoretically have a mouthpiece with a 0 morse taper on the shank > and a mouthpipe with a 0 morse negative taper, and if cut in the wrong > place along the length of the taper, the mouthpiece might not even fit into > the mouthpipe-- even though they were both the same rate of taper. > > Paul > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
- Message from hornonta...@yahoo.ca - Veering ever so close to NHR territory, I would suspect that since it is a proper name, Venturi should remain intact. OF COURSE!! Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
- Message from herb_fos...@yahoo.com - Thank you, John, for setting us straight. "Ventura" bothered me subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the singular be venturo, or is it one ventura, two venture ?-) For many Italian family names the final "i" is the Latin genitive, corresponding to the Anglo-Saxon final "s" or "son". So the first Venturi, several centuries ago, could have been the son of someone named "Venturo". Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
Veering ever so close to NHR territory, I would suspect that since it is a proper name, Venturi should remain intact. John Kowalchuk Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://kowalchukmutes.com Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. > -Original Message- > From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn- > bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert > Foster > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:39 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn > > Thank you, John, for setting us straight. "Ventura" bothered me > subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the > singular be venturo, or is it one ventura, two venture ?-) > > Herb Foster > > > > From: John Kowalchuk > To: The Horn List > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:08:31 AM > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn > > Every time this subject comes up I wonder about the symantics. Is it > venturi or ventura? > > I finally spent five seconds looking it up and learned Giovanni Battista > Venturi (1746-1822) discovered the venturi effect which is named after > him. > > So it is one venturi, several venturis. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn
Thank you, John, for setting us straight. "Ventura" bothered me subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the singular be venturo, or is it one ventura, two venture ?-) Herb Foster From: John Kowalchuk To: The Horn List Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:08:31 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Every time this subject comes up I wonder about the symantics. Is it venturi or ventura? I finally spent five seconds looking it up and learned Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746-1822) discovered the venturi effect which is named after him. So it is one venturi, several venturis. I have accomplished my task of learning something new today so I am going to bed now. John Kowalchuk Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontariohttp://kowalchukmutes.com Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
