[Hornlist] Lohengrin Parts
Hello friends! Just a quick query - Does anyone have the 2nd horn part to Prelude to Act III of Lohengrin that they could scan and e-mail or fax? I got called to sub for an orchestra and just want to see the parts before going. I know, I should have this memorized by now, but for the life of me, I don't think I've ever played 2nd on it. I do promise not to copy, distribute or sell the parts so as not to violate any copyright laws, I only wish to examine it before rehearsal so I can be prepared - at which time I'll get the official copy and use it. Cheers! Jeremy ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Lohengrin Parts
At 12:53 PM -0500 5/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have the 2nd horn part to Prelude to Act III of Lohengrin that they could scan and e-mail or fax? I got called to sub for an orchestra Reminds me of the time when I first got to Mexico. There was this guy who did weddings, a keyboard player and choral dude, and a good musician. He was putting together an orchestra and asked the woodwind quintet in which I played and which he used for some of the weddings when there was enough money if we could play in the orchestra, almost all imported except for us. The other four guys sort of duh'ed out, so I said our rate is $500 each and we want the music faxed to us. Of course that was a joke because it was the Mozart Coronation Mass. The $500 was precedent from then on, a very good thing. Did you ask the orchestra to fax you a part? Regards, Carlberg -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes Aguascalientes, Ags. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Lohengrin Parts
If you have played the stuff on another horn chair than 2nd, there should be not any problem playing it even prima vista. The loud passages are quite identical. You are familiar with horn in A horn in D, right -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:54 PM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Lohengrin Parts Hello friends! Just a quick query - Does anyone have the 2nd horn part to Prelude to Act III of Lohengrin that they could scan and e-mail or fax? I got called to sub for an orchestra and just want to see the parts before going. I know, I should have this memorized by now, but for the life of me, I don't think I've ever played 2nd on it. I do promise not to copy, distribute or sell the parts so as not to violate any copyright laws, I only wish to examine it before rehearsal so I can be prepared - at which time I'll get the official copy and use it. Cheers! Jeremy ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Lohengrin Parts
Quoting hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you have played the stuff on another horn chair than 2nd, there should be not any problem playing it even prima vista. The loud passages are quite identical. You are familiar with horn in A horn in D, right Yes - I'm perfectly fine with the transpositions. However, it's been at least 10 years since I've played Lohengrin and don't remember it that well. I'm not concerned with my ability to play it upon first sight, but like the ability to mark passages (cues, measure numbers, etc.) prior to rehearsals. I have access to the CD ROM library of horn parts and use it for these purposes all the time, but Lohengrin is not included in my set. Thanks - J. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Lohengrin
Luke Zyla wrote: I am sitting here practicing the original notation part to the Introduction to Act III of the Opera Lohengrin. It starts in G horn in the first measure and switches to E horn on the third beat of measure 2. Later to G, back to E, then D and later A-flat horn. I am wondering if the rest of the opera has that many rapid changes? Why would it be written so? If I remember correctly, Wagner used this notation because it was what J.R. Lewy used for some valve horn exercises. Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Lohengrin
I am sitting here practicing the original notation part to the Introduction to Act III of the Opera Lohengrin. It starts in G horn in the first measure and switches to E horn on the third beat of measure 2. Later to G, back to E, then D and later A-flat horn. I am wondering if the rest of the opera has that many rapid changes? Why would it be written so? Just curious, Luke Zyla, 2nd horn West Virginia Symphony Orchestra www.wvsymphony.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Lohengrin
i heard what could be a myth about that: it was right around when there were both natural and valved horns in common use, and Wagner much preferred the valved horn - he wrote Lohengrin that way to ensure no one would (or could) ever play it on natural horn. Rebekah _ Get the device you want, with the Hotmail® you love. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobilehotmail/default.mspx?WT.mc_ID=MobileHMTagline ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Lohengrin
There is a simple answer: The valve horn technique playing chromatically using the valves had not found common use that time 1850, so Wagner used some kind of mixed technique writing for the horns. The horn players used different crooks (on the front end of the horn) plus the valves, but they used the valves just to switch from one tonality to the other quickly. And they still used their right hand in the bell for certain semitones. It is a quick change from G to E, if the G crook is used first the first two valves or the 3rd valve is used to switch the horn to E tonality. It would work here. G horn together with 1st 3rd valve makes D-horn etc., but the loud passage on plain D-horn Would sound terrible stuffy weak. - These were my first thoughts. But it is different. It has more to do with Wagners score-writing readability of score parts. Horn players were used to read clean parts, parts with just a few accidentals. When Wagner switches from one chord to the next he just changed the transposition kept the parts clean for easy reading. If you read the first three pages of the score (3rd act prelude) you will find it out by yourself. These are conclusions from playing this opera many, many times during 40 years. But it is still not a proof evidence, why Wagner did so, but it remains assumption. Lewy had influenced Wagner. And aren´t we doing warm-up exercises in a similar way ? On fixed valve positions ? The arpeggios ? I prefer this kind of writings as it keeps the part clean. You find the spots easily. You find the altered notes quickly. If one plays on the F-side mostly, the task is quite easy, but the notorious Bb-players get in trouble with the fingerings, special fingering the sharp tonalities E D, but they might do easier on the flat tonalities like A-flat. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Zyla Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:43 AM To: Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Lohengrin I am sitting here practicing the original notation part to the Introduction to Act III of the Opera Lohengrin. It starts in G horn in the first measure and switches to E horn on the third beat of measure 2. Later to G, back to E, then D and later A-flat horn. I am wondering if the rest of the opera has that many rapid changes? Why would it be written so? Just curious, Luke Zyla, 2nd horn West Virginia Symphony Orchestra www.wvsymphony.org ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
