Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

2003-12-08 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here:
William wrote:
When you point the finger at someone you have 4 fingers pointing back at you.

-William

chuckling  I don't think so!  Try it!  Really!!!  Try it!  Go ahead, 
point and actually look at your hand, while you point.  Now count the 
fingers pointing away, and those pointing at yourself. 

Once you get the numbering system down, you can then get really clever, 
pointing with the palm of your hand facing downward (pronated).  If you 
don't squeeze your fingers into a fist, but let them dangle loosely, 
those that aren't pointing at another person, will be pointing at the 
floor.  But that's cheating, in some people's eyes. 

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Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

2003-12-07 Thread Alan Cole
Regardless of anyone else's knowledge  opinions, as a rank amateur I 
hereby reserve the right to develop  adhere to my own preferences about 
horn valve mechanisms  linkages despite complete, total,  absolute 
ignorance of the applicable principles of torque, torsion, physics, 
mathematics, metaphysics, logic, reason, history, philospohy, psychology, 
emotion, self-esteem, metallurgy, ethics, aesthetics, laws, rules, and 
regulations.

All you professionals  conservatory students out there are on your own.

-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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At 01:48 PM 12/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
No that is only my opinion. It is not the most pertinent sentence I have made
on that subject since it is only opinion.
Heaven forbid an _opinion_ shows up... I'm sure you have plenty of opinions
yourself about a great number of things which could be considered as
'interfering' with your reasoning.
My opinion was not my basis for reasoning. I did not get up one morning and
say, well you know today I will decide this as my opinion. My opinion of
mechanical linkages is based on (a) mathematical evidence of torque, (b) 
they take
much longer to deal with in repairs, (c) there are many more parts so the
chance at something going wrong is a little greater and (d) it's something 
extra to
oil. In regards to my opinion, the only one I gave was that I didn't like the
feel of it. My opinion of feel is strictly my own and I did not give that
first as my reasoning for what I said. I only said that after the fact.

Many scientists have opinions about a great number of subjects too you know,
and they didn't arrive at those opinions before the fact. They only 
arrived at
them after the facts were presented, as I have done so here.

I will admit I didn't know much about the differences in mini-balls to
mechanical arms but that doesn't mean I didn't do my fair share of 
research into
mechanical arms.

When you point the finger at someone you have 4 fingers pointing back at you.

-William

In a message dated 12/7/2003 10:07:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I think this is the most pertinent statement you have made on this
 subject William.   All of your other reasonings and justifications
 are just so much interference on the subject.  On the other hand you are
 doing your best to keep the list lively these days.

 The Jack Attack!
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Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

2003-12-07 Thread Valkhorn
Exactly. People have a right to an opinion as well. I think it was very 
childish for Jack to attack me because I stated my opinion about something. 

-William

In a message dated 12/7/2003 11:08:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Regardless of anyone else's knowledge opinions, as a rank amateur I 
 hereby reserve the right to develop adhere to my own preferences about 
 horn valve mechanisms linkages despite complete, total, absolute 
 ignorance of the applicable principles of torque, torsion, physics, 
 mathematics, metaphysics, logic, reason, history, philospohy, psychology, 
 emotion, self-esteem, metallurgy, ethics, aesthetics, laws, rules, and 
 regulations.
 
 All you professionals conservatory students out there are on your own.
 
 -- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.

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