[hugin-ptx] Re: black square after vignetting correction using fulla
On Mar 5, 1:18 am, Bruno Postle wrote: > On Thu 04-Mar-2010 at 13:58 -0800, Phil wrote: > Yes, fulla predates the photometric model in Hugin. You are better > using Hugin/nona for vignetting correction for two reasons: > > - Hugin/nona use the EMoR sensor response model > > - Hugin can estimate vignetting parameters from simply aligning > overlapping photos in a panorama. > > -- > Bruno So to correct a single image with already known polynomial coefficients I should make a .pto file and feed it to nona? I'll try this. Actually, there is many things that should be corrected, aside vignetting, like TCA and barrel distortion. This method seems to be useful, if it works :) Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] black square after vignetting correction using fulla
On Thu 04-Mar-2010 at 13:58 -0800, Phil wrote: I have found that in 2008, here was a post about fulla bug with vignetting correction. The bug seems to be alive, will it be fixed or there is an another way to correct vignetting using hugin tools and some polynomial coefficients? Yes, fulla predates the photometric model in Hugin. You are better using Hugin/nona for vignetting correction for two reasons: - Hugin/nona use the EMoR sensor response model - Hugin can estimate vignetting parameters from simply aligning overlapping photos in a panorama. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] black square after vignetting correction using fulla
Hello, I have found that in 2008, here was a post about fulla bug with vignetting correction. The bug seems to be alive, will it be fixed or there is an another way to correct vignetting using hugin tools and some polynomial coefficients? The bug is: command line fulla -x 0:0 -c 1:-0.0001:0.1:0.001 test.jpg should do almost nothing, but it gives a true black box. If I replace first 1 to zero, something very strange happens. White stripe at the top of image with scattered pixels (actually, this should give a completely white picture, we ask to divide pixel value by very small number). Thank you Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Translation status (was:hugin-2010.0.0_rc1 released)
On Wed 03-Mar-2010 at 18:42 +, Bruno Postle wrote: A hugin-2010.0.0_rc1 (release candidate 1) tarball is available here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin-2010.0_beta/ The localisation statistics for 2010.0.0 look good though there are some languages that haven't been updated in a long time (Bulgarian, Korean, Slovenian, Ukrainian and Catalan): cs_CZ.po: 0 untranslated messages de.po: 0 untranslated messages fr.po: 0 untranslated messages hu.po: 0 untranslated messages nl.po: 0 untranslated messages pt_BR.po: 0 untranslated messages sv.po: 0 untranslated messages zh_TW.po: 0 untranslated messages pl.po: 3 untranslated messages it.po: 6 untranslated messages sk.po: 24 untranslated messages zh_CN.po: 24 untranslated messages ru.po: 29 untranslated messages es.po: 30 untranslated messages ja.po: 80 untranslated messages fi.po:127 untranslated messages bg.po:129 untranslated messages ko.po:139 untranslated messages sl.po:177 untranslated messages uk.po:197 untranslated messages ca_ES.po: 263 untranslated messages See this wiki page for advice on updating the Hugin translations: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide More information about this release can be found in the full ChangeLog below and the unfinished release notes: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/2010.0.0/ These release notes probably won't change much so feel free to translate them too (Vaclav Cerny already did a Czech version): http://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hugin/htdocs/releases/2010.0.0/ -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Smartblend wrapper and Hugin 0.8 and upward till Hugin 2010.01
Hi, Hmm this had to do with quotes in filenames, which it should now handle properly. Get the just updated version here: http://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hugin/hugin/trunk/platforms/windows/smartblend-wrapper/smartblend-hugin.bat?revision=5050 -- Bart On 4 mrt, 15:35, Trev wrote: > Hi > > I am new here so I had better introduce myself! My name is Trevor, I > live in the UK and have only been using Hugin for two months. It's a > great piece of software and I would like the thank everyone who has > put the time in. > > I also experience the inverted jpeg. Yesterday I downloaded a newer > version of Hugin for Windows (Pre-Release 2010.1.0.5046 built by zoran > zoric) and I get the following error: > > "C:/Users/User/Downloads/Hugin5023/bin/Smartblend/smartblend- > hugin.bat" --compression NONE -f4608x1935 -o "test.tif" > "test.tif" > [smartblend-wrapper] Skipping compression argument and its parameter: > --compression NONE > [smartblend-wrapper] Skipping crop argument: -f4608x1935 > [smartblend-wrapper] Output file: "test.tif" > The syntax of the command is incorrect. > make: *** [test.tif] Error 255 > > I have tried using a panorama that previously worked OK and get the > same result. It looks as if one of the parameters might have changed > or I am doing something silly!! > > regards > Trevor > > The version of Smartblend is 1.2.5.0 dated 25/03/2007 > On Mar 2, 2:02 pm, Henk Tijdink wrote: > > > > > Hello Bart > > > The ouput file now has the EXIF info. > > As I understand from your previous answer there is no compression > > available due to parameter stripping , needed for enblend to work. > > Can live with it and compress it later. > > The only strange thing is that a JPEG output is upside down. > > Have other people that experience too? > > > Kind regards > > Henk Tijdink > > > On 24 feb, 00:11, Bart van Andel wrote: > > > > Whoops, I had mixed up two versions of the batch file on my harddrive > > > and uploaded the wrong one (which was still an update, but > > > incomplete), fixed that. Sorry Bruno, you'll need to merge again I > > > guess... > > > > -- > > > Bart > > > > On 23 feb, 23:30, Bart van Andel wrote: > > > > > I just committed a new version, which can be found at [0]. Tested with > > > > Hugin 2009.04 official build, but it should be version independent. It > > > > will work with Hugin as long as Hugin does not the command line > > > > arguments currently supplied to enblend/smartblend. The wrapper > > > > currently strips -f and --compression, gets the output from -o and > > > > leaves everything else alone. The readme also got an update to reflect > > > > the changes. > > > > > By the way it's okay to include the wrapper and accompanying readme in > > > > a future Hugin package, so users won't have to go search for the > > > > wrapper in the svn repos themselves. I have no experience with > > > > building such packages myself though. > > > > > [0]http://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hugin/hugin/trunk/platforms/w... > > > > > -- > > > > Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Towards a non-patented control point detector
2010/3/4 Seb Perez-D > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 15:14, Rogier Wolff > wrote: > > > > Daisy, the patent free feature detector. > > > > We might want to find something a little less common. Although these > softwares are not doing the same thing, it might be better to have > something more unique: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_%28software%29 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAISY_Digital_Talking_Book > http://www.daisydental.com/software/index.shtml > http://www.daisy.com/ > http://www.leedberg.com/glsoft/daisy/ > http://www.prodigi.com.au/products/daisy.html > > to name but a few... > > Cheers, > > Seb > > I agree with Seb. There are even more "occurrences" like daisy chain(ing) in the traditional, electrical, IT, sexual, networking, etc. meanings. Why not keep it simple descriptive (in the panotools) tradition and couple it at the same time unmistakably to Hugin and name it "hugin_cp_tool" (with or without the underscores or hyphens (minus signs) or upper/lower characters in the name). The "tool" appendix describes what it's two purposes: namely descripting and matching. The keypoints binary can keep it's name AFAIK or anyone wanting to be creative on that one too? hugin_cp_tool or huginCPtool is not nice, it's not poetic (like something daisy like), but I think it describes unmistakably what it does. So far my 2 cents. Harry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Towards a non-patented control point detector
The name of Hugin itself comes from Norse mythology [0] (Huginn and Muninn [1], which stand for thought and memory respectively, are the ravens who tell Odin how the earth is doing). I think it may be a nice idea to steal another name there. So... what about Loki? According to its Wikipedia article [2], "Loki assists the gods, and sometimes causes problems for them. Loki is a shape shifter and in separate incidents he appears in the form of a salmon and a mare.". Certainly a feature detector assists our precious Hugin, and certainly this sometimes will cause problems (bad matches etc.). I don't know about the internal working but it might do some shape shifting too. Anyway afterwards the images (shapes) will be shifted based on the feature points found. Besides that, Loki sounds a bit like "localize", which is what it does, it localizes points which will be used to connect the images. Of course we could also add a cheesy backronym [3] like "Locally Oriented Keypoint Indexer" (depending on what it actually does under the hood this might or might not be correct), or "Localizer of Orientation independent Keypoints of Interest". Anyone with a cheese-o- matic can think of even nicer backronyms, if you tune the machine correctly. ;-) [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huginn_and_Muninn [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym -- Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Towards a non-patented control point detector
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 15:14, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > Daisy, the patent free feature detector. > We might want to find something a little less common. Although these softwares are not doing the same thing, it might be better to have something more unique: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_%28software%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAISY_Digital_Talking_Book http://www.daisydental.com/software/index.shtml http://www.daisy.com/ http://www.leedberg.com/glsoft/daisy/ http://www.prodigi.com.au/products/daisy.html to name but a few... Cheers, Seb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Towards a non-patented control point detector
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:20:01AM -0800, Bart van Andel wrote: > > If this were my project, I would seriously call it "Patent Free > > Feature Detector". And in this perfect world, everyone would use it > > because it would be so plain and obvious and clear... and Google-able. > > That is, if you know your panorama-creation program should "detect > features" in the source images. It's only obvious once you know what > you should be looking for. Daisy, the patent free feature detector. I like it. It also lends itself for a good logo. Two squares, left square with a tree and a flower in the lower right. right square with a flower in the top left, and a person. Some features in the flower marked as corresponding. (e.g. marked A, B, C in both flowers, or with links shown between them.) Roger. -- ** r.e.wo...@bitwizard.nl ** http://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2600998 ** **Delftechpark 26 2628 XH Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233** *-- BitWizard writes Linux device drivers for any device you may have! --* Q: It doesn't work. A: Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Is it unemployed? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. - Adapted from lxrbot FAQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Smartblend wrapper and Hugin 0.8 and upward till Hugin 2010.01
Hi I am new here so I had better introduce myself! My name is Trevor, I live in the UK and have only been using Hugin for two months. It's a great piece of software and I would like the thank everyone who has put the time in. I also experience the inverted jpeg. Yesterday I downloaded a newer version of Hugin for Windows (Pre-Release 2010.1.0.5046 built by zoran zoric) and I get the following error: "C:/Users/User/Downloads/Hugin5023/bin/Smartblend/smartblend- hugin.bat" --compression NONE -f4608x1935 -o "test.tif" "test.tif" [smartblend-wrapper] Skipping compression argument and its parameter: --compression NONE [smartblend-wrapper] Skipping crop argument: -f4608x1935 [smartblend-wrapper] Output file: "test.tif" The syntax of the command is incorrect. make: *** [test.tif] Error 255 I have tried using a panorama that previously worked OK and get the same result. It looks as if one of the parameters might have changed or I am doing something silly!! regards Trevor The version of Smartblend is 1.2.5.0 dated 25/03/2007 On Mar 2, 2:02 pm, Henk Tijdink wrote: > Hello Bart > > The ouput file now has the EXIF info. > As I understand from your previous answer there is no compression > available due to parameter stripping , needed for enblend to work. > Can live with it and compress it later. > The only strange thing is that a JPEG output is upside down. > Have other people that experience too? > > Kind regards > Henk Tijdink > > On 24 feb, 00:11, Bart van Andel wrote: > > > Whoops, I had mixed up two versions of the batch file on my harddrive > > and uploaded the wrong one (which was still an update, but > > incomplete), fixed that. Sorry Bruno, you'll need to merge again I > > guess... > > > -- > > Bart > > > On 23 feb, 23:30, Bart van Andel wrote: > > > > I just committed a new version, which can be found at [0]. Tested with > > > Hugin 2009.04 official build, but it should be version independent. It > > > will work with Hugin as long as Hugin does not the command line > > > arguments currently supplied to enblend/smartblend. The wrapper > > > currently strips -f and --compression, gets the output from -o and > > > leaves everything else alone. The readme also got an update to reflect > > > the changes. > > > > By the way it's okay to include the wrapper and accompanying readme in > > > a future Hugin package, so users won't have to go search for the > > > wrapper in the svn repos themselves. I have no experience with > > > building such packages myself though. > > > > [0]http://hugin.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hugin/hugin/trunk/platforms/w... > > > > -- > > > Bart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Fisheye projection assumed by PanoTools/Hugin
On 4 March 2010 08:55, Robert wrote: > > which fisheye projection is assumed by Hugin/PanoTools when I specify > 'fisheye' as input lens geometry e.g. in Hugin's camera/lens tab? Is > it equisolid? Or rather equidistance? It is equidistance. You can approximate the other fisheye geometries with the a,b,c parameters. -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2010.1 svn5046 available for download
The provided 7zip is created with the recent beta version, which is incompatible with the current stable release. I guess it would be good to write it on the webpage as I bet most of the people use the stable version. On 3/4/10, Seb Perez-D wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 09:48, thibault.lemaitre > wrote: >> Then, I encounter a problem of extraction with the 7zip version. I'm >> on Ubuntu 9.04 using File Roller to manage my archives. I habitually >> don't encounter problems with the 7zip file format. Am I alone? > > Why do you want a Windows build if you are using Ubuntu? would you be > better with the native linux version? > > Best, > > Seb > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > A list of frequently asked questions is available at: > http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2010.1 svn5046 available for download
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 09:48, thibault.lemaitre wrote: > Then, I encounter a problem of extraction with the 7zip version. I'm > on Ubuntu 9.04 using File Roller to manage my archives. I habitually > don't encounter problems with the 7zip file format. Am I alone? Why do you want a Windows build if you are using Ubuntu? would you be better with the native linux version? Best, Seb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Fisheye projection assumed by PanoTools/Hugin
Hi all, which fisheye projection is assumed by Hugin/PanoTools when I specify 'fisheye' as input lens geometry e.g. in Hugin's camera/lens tab? Is it equisolid? Or rather equidistance? I pretty much already ruled out stereographic and orthogonal projection, since they are IIRC quite rare. Regards, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin 2010.1 svn5046 available for download
Hello guys, First, thank you again for this build. Then, I encounter a problem of extraction with the 7zip version. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 using File Roller to manage my archives. I habitually don't encounter problems with the 7zip file format. Am I alone? Thibault. On 3 mar, 17:11, Didgeridoohan wrote: > Just in case you didn't know: > > You're awsome! > > Thank you very much for providing us with these builds... > > On Mar 3, 4:24 pm, "Zoran Zorkic" wrote: > > > > > Includes new APSC! > > Grab it fromhttp://lemur.dreamhosters.com/hugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
Re: [hugin-ptx] Using enblend to make seamless tiles
James Legg wrote: If you use a high pass filter on the image before doing this, the tiled image won't have bright and dark diagonal lines. The Gimp doesn't have a built in high pass filter, but you can get the same effect like this: 1. Flatten the image if it is not already a single layer. 2. Duplicate the layer. 3. Gaussian blur the top layer with a large radius. 4. Set the top layer's blending mode to grain extract. 5. Flatten the image again. Since this will remove the overriding colour of the texture, add it back in using colour balance, levels, or colour curves. Thanks for the tip. P.S. I just tried it on a more difficult pattern (irregular stone bricks in a wall), and it doesn't work nearly so well. http://ganglion.me/media/bricks-repeated.jpg andy. You can make tiles with Enblend for some strong patterns by straightening the image with Hugin and cropping the image at measured points. This is easy for regular bricks, but I don't think it will work with irregular stone bricks. The Texturize plugin for the Gimp might be worth a try: http://gimp-texturize.sourceforge.net I just tried texturize on the stone image and it looks better than anything I've tried so far, so I'll probably be using this from now on. Thanks :) see: http://ganglion.me/media/stone-repeat-texture.jpg andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx
