Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 11:01:27 UTC+2 schrieb Sybren A. Stüvel: > > > How hard is it to let --help show whether it's using multi-threading > or not? > And the next one wants to see the OpenCL configuration and the next one the dynamic linking one and so on. And so the help page becomes longer and longer. > Light green/cyan text on a light blue background? Unreadable. Slow. First, it's only the TOC, the main text is black. Second there is also a pdf version with only black text. > The > background also isn't centred on the page, while the text is, and the > HTML is broken (two declarations, a element inside > the element). > Then provide a patch which fixes the issues from the web site. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/748e4c93-7a65-4710-ad07-657a55d01599%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 08:00:30AM -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Am Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 09:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Sybren A. Stüvel: > > enfuse-mp --help doesn't show anything about this, and the man > page doesn't either. Maybe it's a nice touch to update those? > > Output of "enfuse --version --verbose" That is a combination that you really have to know to use, as --help by itself doesn't tell you explicitly that it's even possible. How hard is it to let --help show whether it's using multi-threading or not? > and the description in chapter 3.1.1 of the enblend/enfuse > documentation (which should be installed) is not sufficient? online > here: > http://enblend.sourceforge.net/enblend.doc/enblend_4.2.xhtml/enblend.html#sec%3Afinding-out-details Light green/cyan text on a light blue background? Unreadable. The background also isn't centred on the page, while the text is, and the HTML is broken (two declarations, a element inside the element). I'd never expect this to be official documentation for any package. Sorry to be so negative. I was (and am) very happy with the pointer to enfuse-mp. It's just that making the software a bit clearer in the way it presents information to the user is probably less work that having this entire discussion. -- Sybren A. Stüvel https://stuvelfoto.nl/ https://stuvel.eu/ -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20160528090117.GA23154%40sapphire.stuvel.eu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
On Saturday, 28 May 2016 at 0:18:10 -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 08:51:18 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: >> >> On Friday, 27 May 2016 at 23:34:23 -0700, T. Modes wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 00:56:09 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: >> >> You shouldn't have to run a program with almost undocumented >> parameters to find out what it does. > > enfuse --help print what it does. For that you have to run the program. > "enfuse --version --verbose" print "only" some diagnostic > information, e.g. with which libraries is was compiled. That's > purely informative and can't be changed or influenced by the user. Information is useful too. And it's not documented in the canonical places. >> And I can't find any reference to the online documentation in the >> build instructions or any other file in the top level build >> directory. > > The online documentation is created from the build system for > convenience only. Why? It seems there is stuff in there which can't be found elsewhere. Documentation shouldn't be optional. > Each builder can create the documentation from the source. The > README contains a complete chapter "Documentation Generation". And > the source contains a folder doc. So I don't know where you looked. I looked there too. I've looked again. There's no mention of the online documentation at http://enblend.sourceforge.net/enblend.doc/enblend_4.2.xhtml/enblend.html there or anywhere else in that directory. It should be there or in the man/info pages. > And for the builder configure reports at the end: > > enblend-enfuse now configured for i686-pc-linux-gnu > > can build all documentation: yes I have: can build all documentation: no, because of missing tidy OK, I missed that one. I didn't do the original port, and it's possible that this got missed as a result. I'll go through the README and check what else I've missed. > So this is also no hint. Sorry, don't understand. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20160528080718.GQ23023%40eureka.lemis.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 08:51:18 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: > > On Friday, 27 May 2016 at 23:34:23 -0700, T. Modes wrote: > > Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 00:56:09 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: > >> > >> It shouldn't be. > > > > That the FreeBSD/? variants only. The windows binaries ship with > > documentation. > > No, you misunderstand me: > > > That's what man pages are for. > > You shouldn't have to run a program with almost undocumented > parameters to find out what it does. > enfuse --help print what it does. "enfuse --version --verbose" print "only" some diagnostic information, e.g. with which libraries is was compiled. That's purely informative and can't be changed or influenced by the user. > And I > can't find any reference to the online documentation in the build > instructions or any other file in the top level build directory. The online documentation is created from the build system for convenience only. Each builder can create the documentation from the source. The README contains a complete chapter "Documentation Generation". And the source contains a folder doc. So I don't know where you looked. And for the builder configure reports at the end: enblend-enfuse now configured for i686-pc-linux-gnu can build all documentation: yes So this is also no hint. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/7ecaa87b-d367-4b1c-8bc0-2d9811adce05%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
On Friday, 27 May 2016 at 23:34:23 -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 00:56:09 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: >> >> It shouldn't be. > > That the FreeBSD/? variants only. The windows binaries ship with > documentation. No, you misunderstand me: > That's what man pages are for. You shouldn't have to run a program with almost undocumented parameters to find out what it does. > That also on Linux only. The man pages are useless on Windows. > > The content of the documentation (with graphs, images, code snippets, > examples) can't be fitted into the format of the man pages. Graphs and images can't. But the texts can, and should. > Also the range of topics covered does not fit in layout of the man > pages. > > So this is a package problem. I'd suggest that it's more of an attitude problem. Incomplete man pages don't help anybody. There's no reference to some options, nor to the online documentation. It also claims that the info pages (without graphs or images) are included in the info pages. And I can't find any reference to the online documentation in the build instructions or any other file in the top level build directory. How did the Microsoft build people find out about it? No wonder people are confused. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20160528065112.GP23023%40eureka.lemis.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 00:56:09 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle: > > It shouldn't be. > That the FreeBSD/? variants only. The windows binaries ship with documentation. That's what man pages are for. > That also on Linux only. The man pages are useless on Windows. The content of the documentation (with graphs, images, code snippets, examples) can't be fitted into the format of the man pages. Also the range of topics covered does not fit in layout of the man pages. So this is a package problem. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/c25d4588-a9a1-4cb3-bcb4-f2a6c3572b98%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
On Friday, 27 May 2016 at 8:00:30 -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Am Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 09:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Sybren A. Stüvel: >> >> >> enfuse-mp --help doesn't show anything about this, and the man page >> doesn't either. Maybe it's a nice touch to update those? > > Output of "enfuse --version --verbose" and the description in chapter 3.1.1 > of the enblend/enfuse documentation (which should be installed) is not > sufficient? It shouldn't be. That's what man pages are for. And the man page doesn't even mention this combination of options. I've only just discovered: Extra feature: OpenMP: no Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20160527225602.GO23023%40eureka.lemis.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
Am Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 09:32:44 UTC+2 schrieb Sybren A. Stüvel: > > > enfuse-mp --help doesn't show anything about this, and the man page > doesn't either. Maybe it's a nice touch to update those? > Output of "enfuse --version --verbose" and the description in chapter 3.1.1 of the enblend/enfuse documentation (which should be installed) is not sufficient? online here: http://enblend.sourceforge.net/enblend.doc/enblend_4.2.xhtml/enblend.html#sec%3Afinding-out-details -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/1d869a60-5e8b-4615-99b2-c57f9b5ea026%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 08:55:25AM -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Using the OpenMP powered enfuse. > > Running 8 instances of OpenMP-enfuse with 8 threads each one (as the > multi-threaded enfuse does) (as your make -j8) spawns a lot of > threads and is using a lot of memory. > So we prefer currently running only one multithreaded program at one > time, and this is supported by hugin_executor. Aaaah that must be what enfuse-mp is then. I'm trying it out now, and indeed it nicely uses all my CPU cores. And 8.2 GB of RAM, so running two of those in parallel would have been troublesome on my 16 GB machine. Thanks for this great solution! enfuse-mp --help doesn't show anything about this, and the man page doesn't either. Maybe it's a nice touch to update those? Cheers, -- Sybren A. Stüvel https://stuvelfoto.nl/ https://stuvel.eu/ -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/20160527073224.GA30806%40sapphire.stuvel.eu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[hugin-ptx] Re: pto2mk replacement
Am Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2016 00:46:13 UTC+2 schrieb Sybren A. Stüvel: > > Unfortunately, Hugin is no longer shipped with pto2mk, and suggests using > hugin_executor instead (http://wiki.panotools.org/Pto2mk). To my sadness, > hugin_executor does NOT run enfuse in parallel, making the stitching much > slower. > Can anyone give me some hints on how to finish the stitching process at > maximum speed? > Using the OpenMP powered enfuse. Running 8 instances of OpenMP-enfuse with 8 threads each one (as the multi-threaded enfuse does) (as your make -j8) spawns a lot of threads and is using a lot of memory. So we prefer currently running only one multithreaded program at one time, and this is supported by hugin_executor. -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/9106a72c-2644-4e58-8aac-982537a0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.