Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
A slightly loaded, but I think a very appropriate, question. In my opinion, if you cannot get that in writing, along with a pre-funded liability insurance policy specifically for your account for the duration of your contract to use Z/Prime, then I would walk away. The reason I say pre-funded is because here in Texas a common occurrence is someone gets automobile insurance and pays for the first month and then lets the policy lapse. In this case, I would assume that Neon would be good to keep up the payments, but if IBM gets on their high horse and wipes Neon out, then where are you? As with most things in life, it is up to the user to determine the risk/reward balance and make their own choices. The preceding is my personal opinion and does not reflect those of my employer or anyone else. Chris Blaicher Phone: 512-340-6154 Mobile: 512-627-3803 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar Eric Bielefeld wrote: > Thanks for the posting. I signed up. Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like: "Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the zPrime product? If not then why not?" -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
Eric Bielefeld wrote: Thanks for the posting. I signed up. Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like: "Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the zPrime product? If not then why not?" -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
There is a different link off of www.neon.com home page -Original Message- Thompson, Steve Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read from a computer system running Windows and IE. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of poster's employer -- -Original Message- Ken Porowski I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=3D1331&e=3D328&elq=3Dafd32854d7c047509 a= 3a5e1 65b96bd5a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
Thompson, Steve wrote: Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read from a computer system running Windows and IE. I read it using Firefox 3.5.2 under Windows XP SP3. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
Thanks for the posting. I signed up. At the last meeting of the Midwest Computer Measurement Group, which was held in Milwaukee a month or so ago, Al Sherkow spoke, but not on Neon zPrime. He was asked a lot of questions about it during his 2 hours, and it was very interesting. He does consulting work for both Neon and IBM. He didn't give any definitive answers, but did point out that whatever contract you sign with IBM for using ZIIPs and ZAAPs is binding. This should be interesting to see how this plays out. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Ken Porowski" I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=1331&e=328&elq=afd32854d7c047509a3a5e1 65b96bd5a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read from a computer system running Windows and IE. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of poster's employer -- -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=3D1331&e=3D328&elq=3Dafd32854d7c047509 a= 3a5e1 65b96bd5a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=1331&e=328&elq=afd32854d7c047509a3a5e1 65b96bd5a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html