Re: [IceHorses] Re: Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show

2007-09-11 Thread IceDog 
  A broken mouthed shanked bit is quite severe

Typically the icelandic bit doesn't have a purchase to speak of. I am not 
sure how much of  difference this makes in potential for severity over a 
shanked bit with a purchase, but I don't doubt that it does make a 
difference.

I'm not saying icelandic bits are good or bad, just an observation.

Cheryl

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[IceHorses] Re: Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show

2007-09-10 Thread Rich Moore 
Judy

A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
the horses will not have them.  Shoes are no longer required in shows,
so I wouldn't be surprised so see some horses without them.  I am sure
that everyone with or without nosebands or shoes will be welcome.

I would be happy to take photos.  Are you interested in the show in
general or in anything in particular?

Rich

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show

2007-09-10 Thread Karen Thomas 
 A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
the horses will not have them.


Just to be fair, though, we should point out that, up until maybe two years
ago, it was against FEIF rules to use a dropped noseband with a shanked
Icelandic bit.   So, it's not exactly innovativeor humane  for someone to
show up without a dropped noseband...IF they are using a shanked bit.A
broken mouthed shanked bit is quite severe, even if used with NO noseband.


Just for comparison I looked up the current international dressage rules
(FEI) about bits and nosebands:
http://www.horsesport.org/d/PDFS/DressageRules2006_w_corr_07_000.pdf   Pages
28-31 describe and illustrate what bits are allowed, and which ones aren't.
You will notice that none of the allowed curb bits have a broken mouthpiece,
and that it's expressly forbidden to use a dropped noseband with a curb bit.
Also, note the length is limited for curb bits.


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] Re: Kentucky Icelandic Horse Show

2007-09-10 Thread Judy Ryder 

 A lot of people ride without dropped nosebands, so I am sure many of
 the horses will not have them.  Shoes are no longer required in shows,
 so I wouldn't be surprised so see some horses without them.

That will be great to see!


 I would be happy to take photos.  Are you interested in the show in
 general or in anything in particular?

I'd be interested in seeing if the horses without nosebands are accepting 
the bit, how much contact the riders are using, if they are using boots, how 
many are away from the icelandic saddles.

Some shots with the horses moving towards the camera would be good to look 
at the flight of the legs.

Thanks!


Judy
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