Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-14 Thread Lorraine

> together in a line down the center of the belly.
> thats the ventril line.
> 
> Janice
>  
Thanks.  You learn something new everyday

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-14 Thread Janice McDonald
> >
> > -- ok. What is a ventril line?
>
>  Lorraine
>

the center line of a horse's belly from his sheath to his chest.
Horses are usually bitten by insects, especially gnats,  in a
concentrated area just where the hair starts in the center of the
belly above the sheath.  You know how there is no hair around the
sheath, then forward of that the hair starts, well you can feel a
little line there, sort of similar in humans, the hair sorta comes
together in a line down the center of the belly.
thats the ventril line.

Janice

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-12 Thread Lorraine


> way cool Laree!  I am gonna leave teevs ventril line
> from now on to
> help keep bugs away.  LOVE the leggings :)
> Janice
> 
> -- ok. What is a ventril line?

  Lorraine

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-12 Thread Janice McDonald
way cool Laree!  I am gonna leave teevs ventril line from now on to
help keep bugs away.  LOVE the leggings :)
Janice

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-12 Thread Judy Ryder

> trim.  This is Doppa with her second trim for the season. 

Great pictures!  Thanks for sending them.


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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-04-12 Thread Lorraine


> OK - they're a little late but I said I'd send
> photos of my horses
> trim.  This is Doppa with her second trim for the
> season.  I thoughtbut
> the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."
> 

wow. great job.  You should see the hachet job on Scooter.

  Lorraine

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-02-29 Thread Lorraine


> My pile's bigger'n your pile!

Looks like something was killed there.  My boys are
shedding big time.

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-02-29 Thread Judy Ryder


> I've heard that hair makes a great mulch for potted plants.


Really?!?!?  And I've been throwing out all this good hair!


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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-02-29 Thread Nancy Sturm


> I've heard that hair makes a great mulch for potted plants.


My friend Gayle spreads it aorund for nesting birds to use.

Nancy


Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2008-02-29 Thread Wanda Lauscher
I've heard that hair makes a great mulch for potted plants.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Clipping/blankets

2008-01-04 Thread Penelope Hodge



>>She gets really sweaty and wet
> when ridden on trail.  If we did a clip on her, then should we blanket? 
> She
> lives outdoors on grass with several other horses with a shared run-in.
>
> If I needed to blanket, then what blanket manufacture are others liking?


I clip Drifa a couple of times in the winter because we really don't get 
"winter" here and she gets too sweaty when I ride.  I will blanket her (and 
leave her outside) if it gets cold and she hasn't grown much hair back yet 
and I bring her in the barn if it rains.  I know that she likes the barn 
because if I put her in the stall with the attached paddock she will stay in 
the stall as long as it is raining (sometimes for several days).  I have a 
blanket for her that I have had for years and I don't know the 
manufacturer - but it has a wool lining. I walk out to the pasture and she 
sticks her head through the opening and I slide  it on - so I think she 
likes it because she's certainly free to move away.  In the mornings she 
will be warm under it but not sweating.  The rest of the Icelandics aren't 
ridden so they keep their winter coats and are fine.  I bring them up to the 
barn when it is rainy and cold because I don't like to get wet and cold when 
I feed them.  Today they are in a pen on the side away from the wind.

I think it would depend so much on what the weather is like in your area and 
how Tosca feels about that.  My Quarter horses seem to be fine unless there 
is a lot of rain and wind - then they shiver and look miserable (which 
happens occasionally when I forget to check on the weather report).

Penny





Re: [IceHorses] Clipping/blankets

2008-01-04 Thread Nancy Sturm
.  How cold/wet is it where you are?


Thanks for the link.

We live at Applegate Oregon, a tiny (store, church, school) farming 
community in a valley formed by the Applegate river.  The surrounding 
mountains protect us and create a nice temperate zone - as compared to 
Vernon, BC.  Compared to Modesto, where my sister taught school for a few 
years, we live in the artic.

Night time lows in December, January and February are in the high 20's and 
daytime highs usually reach low 40's.  We get lots of rainy days, but we 
might also have a day like Wednesday where highs are near 50.  It rarely 
snows.

It's the rain and temperature swings that make blanketing questionable. 
Ideally, we could pop out and put the blankets on and off as the weather 
changes.  Practically, the blankets are inclined to go in different weights 
and stay on.

I suspect one of the reason we use the turnouts is that all the horses are 
out with shelters and we have a nice dry back to place a saddle on and less 
mud to scrape off.

Nancy 



RE: [IceHorses] Clipping/blankets

2008-01-04 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Nancy
>>If I needed to blanket, then what blanket manufacture are others liking?

If we have to blanket this is our blanket of choice - we have a fleece
cooler and these blanket really let horses stretch their necks down so there
is no pressure on the withers or shoulder - they act like a wrap around
skirt with elastic straps.  They make all sorts of blankets - called the Hug
systemhttp://www.blanketnet.com/ 


>>Tosca has a typically heavy winter coat.  She gets really sweaty and wet 
when ridden on trail.  If we did a clip on her, then should we blanket?  

Mandy at least trace clips most of the horses she is riding in Modesto.
Sometimes just a strip down the neck and check and sometimes a more complete
trace clip.   She doesn't blanket with a trace clip.  How cold/wet is it
where you are? 

Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
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[IceHorses] Clipping/blankets

2008-01-04 Thread Nancy Sturm
Most of the horses here and at Creekside are wearing waterproof  turnout 
blankets.  The three Icelandics and a handful of others are not blanketed, 
strictly a personal choice, I doubt they really need the blankets, but it 
makes the owners feel better.

Tosca has a typically heavy winter coat.  She gets really sweaty and wet 
when ridden on trail.  If we did a clip on her, then should we blanket?  She 
lives outdoors on grass with several other horses with a shared run-in.

If I needed to blanket, then what blanket manufacture are others liking?

Nancy 



[IceHorses] Clipping Contest

2008-01-01 Thread Judy Ryder
We have a beautiful platform for artwork that we are not taking advantage 
of!

Let's see what we can do with our horses' coats and making beautiful 
artwork.   Sort of like sand castles; it's not forever, but it can be 
wonderfully beautiful for a while.


Judy
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[IceHorses] clipping Tivar

2007-10-14 Thread Janice McDonald
I had to clip Tivar today, he was sweating too much.  Last year this
time when i clipped him he danced, flattened his ears, cocked his foot
one time as if to kick at me, gave one little half rear and then
settled in grudgingly, obviously hating it.  then spring, the same but
a little  better.  i decided he just hates clipping.  Then today, when
i first turned on the clippers he danced away as far as the lead would
allow, then stopped, obviously a little unhappy but did not try and
avoid the clippers at all and by the time i was done with the first
stripe he was totally relaxed.  I adjusted them so they do not cut all
the way to his skin so he doesnt looked obviously clipped, just leaner
and closer :)  But interesting to see how he has settled down this
year.  I put a brand new fly mask on him and he walked over to the
pole barn pole and immediately bowed his head, rubbed his ears in a
downward motion and seemed sorta proud of himself when it dropped to
the ground.  he kinda swaggered when he walked off, like "heres your
fly mask, right here..."  But I also in thinking about it realized he
does not mind a bath anymore, actually enjoys it.  When he first came
he did not like baths much.  There is nothing like a hot florida
summer to teach a horse to love a good bath, and today was the first
time i noticed he is finally ok with having his face washed, which
most horses dont like i think.  I sprayed half of him with a natural
citronella insecticide and half with the strong strong stuff i have
for gnats and stood and watched as a little cloud of gnats built up
around the 'natural" side.  It was in fact interesting I could see
where he needed more spots of insecticide applied.  I also cleaned his
sheath, he was totally fine with that.  now i gotta find his fly mask
that fits...  i found the most BIZARRE source of gnat breeding
ground...  a giant weed that has a milky stalk.  it had grown so big
in the fenceline I went to stomp it down and gnats came boiling out in
a thick cloud!
Janice

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2007-10-01 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 01/10/2007, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a little video:
>
> http://iceryder.net/videoclipping.html

She looked like she was enjoying that...

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2007-10-01 Thread Judy Ryder

> I've been contemplating a simple clip for Andi when he
> gets home from training, but we get nights in the
> teens and below frequently in the winter, and if their
> belly/chest/neck were clipped, wouldn't they be cold there?


I clipped Ljufur's underneck and underbelly when we were in AZ in the 
winter.  He never shivvered or seemed unduly cold, but I think you have to 
make the best decision for your own horse according to how much he sweats, 
how much he's ridden, the climate / temps, and whether he'll be blanketed or 
not.


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping

2007-10-01 Thread susan cooper

--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I realized late yesterday afternoon that Charm was
> sweating, so it was time to bring out the clippers!
> > Here's a little video:> 
> http://iceryder.net/videoclipping.html
> 
It was even greater that the dog ran back and forth,
and she didn't even jump about it!

I've been contemplating a simple clip for Andi when he
gets home from training, but we get nights in the
teens and below frequently in the winter, and if their
belly/chest/neck were clipped, wouldn't they be cold there?

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[IceHorses] Clipping

2007-10-01 Thread Judy Ryder
I realized late yesterday afternoon that Charm was sweating, so it was time 
to bring out the clippers!

Here's a little video:

http://iceryder.net/videoclipping.html


Judy
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[IceHorses] Clipping

2007-09-27 Thread Laree Shulman
Janice, I think you mentioned you were hesitant to clip Tivar because
he was suffering from the bugs a lot.  I thought Doppa was, too, but I
did a full body clip on her becasue she was miserable with a heavy
coat already and its unusually warm this Fall and that really seemed
to help the "itchies" for her.  What I thought was bugs was proabbly
heat and winter coat coming in .  Just a thought for Tivar. I did
leave her belly coat and from her knees down.

-- 
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and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should
whip or spur a dancer.

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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping for Winter

2007-09-20 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 11:43:05AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote:
> I just want to say---  i thought it critical my iceys be clipped early
> fall as soon as they start growing winter coat cause it doesnt get
> cold here for a while---  but now I find this early winter coat is
> doing marvels at keeping itchy bugs off them!  They need it here for
> this reason.  So the key, for me, is to clip only AFTER it reaches a
> point to be too warm for them while also clipping and leaving long
> enough so insects are still kept away from the skin as much as
> possible.  This is something I just figured out and wanted to share.

that's a very good point.  we still have some bugs here now, though
blessedly fewer than a few weeks ago...

that said stjarni will need his full coat in probably a couple of months
here, so i'd just as soon not clip its beginnings.  if he gets very
sweaty (and he has a few times) i rub him down with a sponge bath of
liniment and water, and give him gatorade to drink.

--vicka

ps. for those of you considering bloodthirsty viking war costuming, i
must point out that a horse who's drunk some red-colored gatorade,
esp. if he is an icey with a bit of chin hair, will look like a
well-fed vampire with bad table manners for several hours at least.
 


Re: [IceHorses] Clipping for Winter

2007-09-20 Thread Janice McDonald
I just want to say---  i thought it critical my iceys be clipped early
fall as soon as they start growing winter coat cause it doesnt get
cold here for a while---  but now I find this early winter coat is
doing marvels at keeping itchy bugs off them!  They need it here for
this reason.  So the key, for me, is to clip only AFTER it reaches a
point to be too warm for them while also clipping and leaving long
enough so insects are still kept away from the skin as much as
possible.  This is something I just figured out and wanted to share.
Janice
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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping for Winter

2007-09-20 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 09:04:10AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
> I've been getting quite a few emails about clipping Icelandics for the 
> winter, and whether to blanket or not.
> 
> I tend to clip in a way that I don't need to blanket (and our winters are 
> not that cold), but I'm sure many people do have to blanket.
> 
> Question is, what type of blankets?  what size?  where do you get them?

i have a very nice wool blanket that i got from a friend.  i think it's
size 62" and is 100% wool.  i use it as a cooler when he's sweaty on a
cold night.  it fits him perfectly, i can look up the brand if you like.
but it seems pretty generic to me, crossover straps under the belly and
between the hind legs, and two buckles and velcro in the front.

i don't clip though (though right now i ALMOST would, since stjarni has
a major winter coat coming on and it's still hot here, but it won't be
before very long)

--vicka


[IceHorses] Clipping for Winter

2007-09-20 Thread Judy Ryder
I've been getting quite a few emails about clipping Icelandics for the 
winter, and whether to blanket or not.

I tend to clip in a way that I don't need to blanket (and our winters are 
not that cold), but I'm sure many people do have to blanket.

Question is, what type of blankets?  what size?  where do you get them?

http://iceryder.net/clips.html


Judy
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[IceHorses] clipping - blade size

2007-08-23 Thread Docnshop2
I really like the Andis T84 the best.  If I can't get it I use an  number 10. 
 The Andis T84 leaves the hair just a fraction longer.  I  also like the wide 
blades because clipping goes a lot faster.
 
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Re: [IceHorses] Clipping! No sweat...yay!

2007-05-10 Thread Lorraine Voog
> Well Emmy must have been clipped before as she
stood> 
> Well it was AMAZING... today I went for a ride and
> it was hot and she 
> did not even break a sweat even going for a short
> gallop and climbing a 
> steep hill! 
> 
> Zoe and Emmy in BC
> 

Very good.  It took time for Scooter to get used to
the hotter weather.  Clipping really helped.  I just
ordered the Mars King.  I think that,s it.  He is
shedding big time.

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[IceHorses] Clipping! No sweat...yay!

2007-05-09 Thread wcobpony
Hi Everyone

Well after some thought I decided to clip Emmy, I may buy the coat king 
for next year though! But I have many  worth of clippers now and it 
was hot again so I thought what the heck! I only clipped her front end 
and tummy, plus ( I hate to admit it and I am sure I will get strung up 
for this!!) I took half the underside of her mane off. She was SO hot 
under her mane even just standing still she was sweating there.

Well Emmy must have been clipped before as she stood still even for her 
jawline. After clipping Goats for National shows you get very fussy 
about blending...LOL. 

Well it was AMAZING... today I went for a ride and it was hot and she 
did not even break a sweat even going for a short gallop and climbing a 
steep hill! 

Zoe and Emmy in BC



Re: [IceHorses] clipping

2007-04-23 Thread Janice McDonald
>
> I think that braiding the mane would be very helpful to the horse also.
>
> Do we have any pictures of braided Icelandic manes?



thats gotta be a photo op assignment for Wanda and Dagur.
janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] clipping

2007-04-23 Thread Judy Ryder

>> amazed at the difference this has made in my mare. I bought the Double
>> KK clippers and she FLIES up the mountain like a mountain eating
>> machine. (Of course she is in pretty good shape...but i KNOW the
>> clipping has helped). 
>> is the BEST advice ( clipping) i have followed!

Here's the page for clipping:

http://iceryder.net/clips.html


> thank you!  I need news of clipping info whenever possible!  The last
> two rides Tivar was so dramatically more comfortable.  

I think that braiding the mane would be very helpful to the horse also.

Do we have any pictures of braided Icelandic manes?  


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] clipping

2007-04-22 Thread Janice McDonald

> amazed at the difference this has made in my mare. I bought the Double
> KK clippers and she FLIES up the mountain like a mountain eating
> machine. (Of course she is in pretty good shape...but i KNOW the
> clipping has helped). I live in Longmont Colorado and we have had some
> WARM almost hot days along with our typical spring cool ones. But this
> is the BEST advice ( clipping) i have followed!


thank you!  I need news of clipping info whenever possible!  The last
two rides Tivar was so dramatically more comfortable.  he is new here
so I dont know if he finally acclimatized (nw fla near ala) but I was
beginning to worry he wasn't gonna be physically happy here!  In the
winter he had all that hair and would be actually huffing and panting
on the warmer days when it was around seventy, then it would freeze
and I wouldnt feel like riding long rides, then I bodyclipped just
underneath and one ride it seemed to make no difference!  That was
when I began to worry, because if I clipped and he was still too hot
and huffing and panting, then that was not good!  But now he doesnt
even breathe hard!  I am thinking next winter I will clip him totally
and keep him clipped/  I blanket my horses only when a hard freeze,
down in the 20s and teens, only a few times a year.  It won't be that
much trouble just to blanket him on these cold cold nights, rather
than feel terrible on a ride with him hot and panting!  But maybe it
was just the acclimatization.  I won't know til next winter.  But it
is just a huge relief he is gonna be able to exert here without
huffing and lathered, he was barely sweaty today!  But there is
nothing to clip now!  he has shedded already.  yay!  Does your horse
still have winter fur?

Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


[IceHorses] clipping

2007-04-22 Thread katsimler
Hi...I am new to the group. My name is Kathleen.

I want to make a comment that i have been reading about the importance 
of body clipping Icelandics ( from John Parke) and i am absolutely 
amazed at the difference this has made in my mare. I bought the Double 
KK clippers and she FLIES up the mountain like a mountain eating 
machine. (Of course she is in pretty good shape...but i KNOW the 
clipping has helped). I live in Longmont Colorado and we have had some 
WARM almost hot days along with our typical spring cool ones. But this 
is the BEST advice ( clipping) i have followed!

Just wanted to share.