Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
actually it seems kind compared to whats been done so far... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone think of anything I might could try on the ground with this mare to help her before this a-hole gets ahold of her again? I'm the last one who knows how to help this, but I do recall reading that rearing is when the hind legs are 'stuck' and the front has no alternative but go up. When I read that it reminded me of when my coach got on Orri and tried to make him back up his way, Orri reared, he didn't know what the coach was asking. V _ Fine Dining Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
I'm the last one who knows how to help this, but I do recall reading that rearing is when the hind legs are 'stuck' and the front has no alternative but go up. When I read that it reminded me of when my coach got on Orri and tried to make him back up his way, Orri reared, he didn't know what the coach was asking. This is very helpful V !! can we brainstorm about what makes her stick in the rear? The very first time it happened. She was perfectly calm the old man said. She was standing facing the open barn, and through the doorway could see her paddock out back where the others were being fed. The old man thinks it happened because she wanted to go be fed. But he said she was as calm and passive as could be, and that after she flipped and landed on his son, she just as casually and calmly as you please walked thru the barn and out back to the paddock while he was running to call 9-1-1. There was plenty of room for her to back up. some factors: she is HUGE, very very wide fat back and no one there would ever dream of considering saddle fit. also, they generally start a horse in too harsh a bit. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] some factors: she is HUGE, very very wide fat back and no one there would ever dream of considering saddle fit. also, they generally start a horse in too harsh a bit. Was that the first time she was backed? V _ http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!420
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
some factors: she is HUGE, very very wide fat back and no one there would ever dream of considering saddle fit. also, they generally start a horse in too harsh a bit. Was that the first time she was backed? no, but within the first ten days of first being backed. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you're a member of the ClickRyder list, they're talking about a horse with a rearing problem. V _ RealLiveMoms: Share your experience with Real Live Moms just like you http://www.reallivemoms.ca/
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
Was he on the horse? It's pretty easy to flip a horse, especially a young, unbalanced horse. If the horse was trying to go to her friends and the guy reined her in with a long leverage bit, AND kicked her to go forward, she had no where to go but up. I've seen this happen twice at horse expos! Once she finds that's an escape from pain, she'll be more likely to try it again in the same circumstances, but rearing is a lot of work, and I bet if she learned a clear go forward cue during ground work, she's get over it. If he's tried to move her forward without holding her head, he might have avoided it. Of course saddle fit and idiots training her could be compounding the problem! Cherie
RE: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone think of anything I might could try on the ground with this mare to help her before this a-hole gets ahold of her again? I have been praying for rain since I planted my grass but now I kinda hope it doesnt rain for a while... Janice The Beery manual has what some might consider a drastic method to cure confirmed rearers I've used with good effect for some nut cases who liked to flip over, which will doubtless incur outrage from some. It takes steady nerves and some athleticism. You buckle knee pads on the problem horse, padded ankle straps with strong rings on them-hobble straps work well-and a circingle, then just drive the horse in a light snaffle with driving lines on soft ground in a safe place. There is a cord rope clipped to a ring on the left side of the circingle that runs down and threads through a ring at the back of the left front fetlock, then up through a ring in the middle of the bottom of the circingle, then down through a ring on the back of the right front foot strap, and back up through a couple of rings to the driver's or a helper's hands. If the horse balks and rears, simply pull the rope, which will fold the front feet back. This does not allow the horse to come back down except to its knees. Just hold the horse on its knees a few minutes, the let it up and give it cues to go forward again. It usually only takes a couple of times to completely discourage rearing. The first few times you hitch up (to a sturdy training vehicle), leave the ropes in place, in case the horse associates the rearing behavior with pulling a cart. If I had realized that Levi was thinking about bolting, I could have used this method to stop him, but he'd been a great driving horse for a year, so I was caught off guard.
Re: [IceHorses] rearing and flipping
On 3/26/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you serious? About the manual? If that's the question, then yes she's serious. I can't believe some of the things people do in the name of 'training' Can't wait to see everyone at Equine Affair!! Only 3 weeks!! Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
