Re: [Ilugc] Which Db i need to choose ?

2013-06-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


> > Either postgresql or mongo. Mongo will be cool!
> >
>

Don't pick something because it is cool. If I get it right, mongo and
postgresql address very different needs! But then am not the expert and all
I can suggest is understand your problem before looking a solution.

>
> Take a shortcut: install Postgres, and start developing.
> As a wise Software Engineer once said -- "Plan on throwing one away. You
> will, anyhow."
> Just code a prototype. Your code will be unstructured garbage. Learn from
> it, throw it away, then start from scratch.
>
+1

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Re: [Ilugc] Programming languages

2013-06-10 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

Beg to disagree. By having a practical goal, one can learn how to do

> things practically. Then get inspired by how it worked and dig deeper.
> But if you've got a hundred interesting, practical problems to solve -
> then keep doing it.


Many times reaching a goal is the ultimate aim. Once the goal is met, the
tools and the path taken may seem irrelevant. At that moment, learning
ceases to happen. If I have a good enough internet connection, i can google
up or look up stackoverflow for references to solve the problem at hand.
Learning does not happen! Very few are actually inspired to go beyond the
problem they just solved.

Ok. I did not attempt to prove a point or disagree with you or others in
the thread. Its just a thought I felt a need to share!

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Re: [Ilugc] hello

2012-11-15 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>putit in ms excel for comparision
> rows we have description of the parameter and column will have dates..
> i wanted to put it in php- mysql .
> mysql accepts a record as a row.
> i wanted a help to display as we do it ms excel.
> any script or any tutorial will do.
>

I am a little out of date, but phpmyadmin used to do this sort of stuff.
You can google up for more details.

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[Ilugc] Joomla K2 - need help

2012-04-21 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

My friend is looking for some help with K2. They bought a template and it
has all sample content inside k2. Even a superuser is unable to edit any
text or images or articles. No errors in logs either.

Appreciate any help with this. Pls unicast me for more details

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Ilugc] can anyone help me, if u wish?

2011-08-18 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> scanf("%s",&infix[MAX]);

You may want to use a better code sharing app like pastebin or
something. I doubt if this line is correct. replace with scanf("%s",
infix) and see if that helps.

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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: Talk abstract and bio: GPG and security

2011-06-03 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Kumar volunteers to give a talk on GPG and security for June month meet.
>
When is the meet again?

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Re: [Ilugc] Want to connect bsnl boradband

2011-04-16 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> interleaved posting - it is clearly described in the mailing list
> guidelines. Or see here:
> http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquette#Do_not_top_post

Oh thanks for the link again. I will remember to retain the poster's
signature from next time on.

>
> --
> regards
> KG
> http://lawgon.livejournal.com
> Coimbatore LUG rox
> http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

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Re: [Ilugc] Want to connect bsnl boradband

2011-04-15 Thread Abishek Goda
> *Do not bottom post*
uh!?

I know. Removing the context totally also makes it very difficult to
relate to the response. And this is a bottom post too. I wonder how a
response can neither be top posted  nor bottom posted. Or if it is a
joke that I spoilt, then forgive me.

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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial][Job] Linux Systems Admin / Operations Engineer

2011-03-14 Thread Abishek Goda
>> - BE/BS in computer related field a must
>
> any specific reason for this?
Just sounds like asking for basic graduation. Just so it does not
affect the morale of the others in the team? Of course, BE/BS is not
quite going to guarantee any sysadmin skills anywhere.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Ebook for ARM C Programming

2011-03-14 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Rajesh kumar  wrote:
> I am working on ARM processors with C Programming. I need tutorials on C
> programming on ARM.

Just out of curiosity, why is C programming on ARM very different from
C programming elsewhere? The compiler / cross-compiler should do the
needful, right?

Please do correct me if I am wrong.

Thank You.
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Re: [Ilugc] kde

2011-03-01 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> i am using kde desktop for few days it was so good
> whether it is stable one or not

I don't understand the question. are you facing any specific issues
with your KDE installation?

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Re: [Ilugc] factorial

2011-02-28 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> I think this should help http://www.go4expert.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3095

yeah. one of the first few lessons after boolean arithmetic. but you
need to multiply with numbers that are not 2^n which is why the
repeated addition mention.

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Re: [Ilugc] factorial

2011-02-28 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Hi,
>               Anyone knows how to find the factorial of a number without
> using loops , arithmetic operator,case structure.I guess that this has to be
> done by using bitwise operator.but i dont know how.

extremely long drawn, but possibly something along the asm lines?

you could increment using the or/xor operation, multiply by repeated
addition (which again is xor) operations. subtract with xor
operations. essentially, you would be rewriting every arithmetic is
the least arithmetic way possible.

but do keep this thread posted if there really is a simpler such
solution. would love to know :)

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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

2011-02-02 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>> >> You do not know what it leads you to, for one thing.
>>
>
> how are you sure that full URL can lead to correct place?

honestly, this just sounds like an argument for aruging sake. anyway,
its like this. why do you belive that an email sent from my email
address is still a valid user and not some spam bot? why do I believe
that http://www.ilugc.in/ is not a spam site? how am i supposed to
know that bit.ly/  do honestly lead me into
ilugc.in? If ilugc.in is hacked to show malware, that is a different
problem altogether.

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Re: [Ilugc] MailingList Guidelines

2011-02-01 Thread Abishek Goda
>> > Should the guidelines also include 'Do not post url shortened
>> > links' ?
>>
>>
> What are its disadvantages?

You do not know what it leads you to, for one thing.

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Re: [Ilugc] Alternate GIMP classes instead of PhotoShop

2011-01-30 Thread Abishek Goda
> but it looks like no one in Chennai knows anything about GIMP (other
> than to say it is better than photoshop) The issue is not which is
> better - the issue is that a person wants to learn GIMP and all we can
> do is sit around and pontificate.

+1 Kenneth.

I just repeat that I am not PS guy either. Never used one (for the
record, my h/w config is below the minimal requirements :D). I use
GIMP myself. But I know how difficult I find it getting things done.
Any reasonably advanced tutorials should be good.

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Re: [Ilugc] Alternate GIMP classes instead of PhotoShop

2011-01-30 Thread Abishek Goda
> It's not. Its point and click in GIMP. In fact we find GIMP much more
> easier and faster than Photoshop. There is a huge set of options
> available under filter. We even use GIMP to create generic animations.
hmm, actually I've never used PS and mostly worked with GIMP for my
little requirements here and there. Half the time i'd read up PS
tutorials and work a little out of the way to figure it out for GIMP.
That shapes my opinion.

> Same with GIMP. What is there than photoshop can do but GIMP can't. If
> you are a poweruser and know PS, then only you will be able to use full
> power of GIMP. I repeat we use GIMP for everything. And non of of
> designers are coder or programmers.
I never said GIMP lacked features. I said it is not as obvious as
others. Again, how will one become a poweruser if he cannot get past
the initial curve? Let us be honest, for most beginners GIMP is a
little intimidating. That is not to say PS is more user friendly or
intuitive. A simple search ends up returning more PS methods than
GIMP. Why don't power users like you add more tutorials onto the web?

> Enough said, now here are the guides to learn GIMP:
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
> http://www.gimp.org/books/
> http://www.graphics-muse.org/artistsguide/

:) I am sure every gimp user knows these links. Anyway, it helps to
have it the same thread :)

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Re: [Ilugc] Alternate GIMP classes instead of PhotoShop

2011-01-30 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


>> Even by a long mile I don't think gimp will match Photoshop.
> What made you think so? What's in PS that's not in GIMP? We use GIMP for
> all of our graphics. Please state the reasons.
While I don't know if I agree with the original claim, I'd just add
that adding an effect may be simple point and click in PS while it is
a little cumbersome in GIMP. That does not make GIMP inferior, but
artists are not geeks (not tech geeks, to be correct.).

> Wrong. There are no training institutes about how to use Firefox does
But what is it that firefox would do that is not already done with
other browsers? And when was the last time we did anything out of the
ordinary with firefox (or IE or chrome)? But image manipulation, to
some degree, is not doing the ordinary alone. Again even the new ones
are probably a mix and match of the existing ones. But if they are not
straight forward, then they are as good as not there. Problem is yet
again the user base. If you asked the community, they'd tell you how
to do with python script for GIMP. But how many times are python
coders doing image manipulation? Just curious. I could be entirely
wrong.

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Re: [Ilugc] Actions Required in this new year

2011-01-17 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
> For historical (>1000years) sprinkled with temple, architecture, history etc 
> in TN, I welcome people to join my monthly/bi-monthly journeys. I assure you 
> a dose of tech like ltsp, sysadmin, perl, databases etc. in addition to 
> sculpture, kalvettu, history etc.,

Where do you announce this? Your blog? In this list? Just to track :)

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Re: [Ilugc] [Slightly OT] Allowing exchange/second-hand sale?

2011-01-07 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


> Since then, I've only acquired more gadgets, and I'm sure most of you do
> on an ongoing basis. I've been thinking about this again, because I for
> one would like some flexibility about selling stuff on ILUGC, because
> you cannot possibly ask for a better audience. For example - I'll
> probably getting rid of two memory modules, an old Android phone, and
> maybe even my recently-acquired Kindle if I prefer the hackability of a
> Nook better. It would be nice if we can allow at least such second-hand
> sales among members with the appropriate tag.

Wow, sounds like a nice idea.  I would like to see more of this :D

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Re: [Ilugc] Regd: dbconfig-common creating schema

2010-12-21 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:15 PM, vellingiri  wrote:
>
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Is it me, or is there really no text in this email?

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Re: [Ilugc] import xls data into mysql

2010-12-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
> it would be helpfull even  if i could get the script for xls to csv
> conversion script ...
Open with any tool that can handle XL and do save-as-csv. I know MS
Office does that. I am sure openoffice would.

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Re: Connecting two machines directly. Was Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Temporarily stop/start a process in linux

2010-10-26 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
>
> depends on the ethernet ports - some are able to distinguish between
> cross and straight wiring - older ones may not

hmm, that might be. but then for machines that are not older than 2-3
years, this should not be an issue.

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Re: Connecting two machines directly. Was Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Temporarily stop/start a process in linux

2010-10-26 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> I dunno if cross and straight cables are relevant anymore.
Yep. We do this many times during testing.

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Connecting two machines directly. Was Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Temporarily stop/start a process in linux

2010-10-26 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> if you know the steps means please because i am new to linux.
I will try.

>> You can just add an ethernet cable between the PC eth0 and laptops
>> eth0, configure them with custom ip addresses and rsync/scp the files
>> you need. I think that should work most of the time.

Just add a ethernet cable between the two machines. That is
straightforward, right?

On each machine, as root, do the following.

machine1 # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
machine2 # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.3

you should be able to ping the machines from one another. Then rsync the folders

machine1 # rsync -r machine2:/path/to/files .

should do the trick. Again, this is not the only way. I am not sure
what GUI options are available. Some research on google should give
you all the methods you can try.

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Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Temporarily stop/start a process in linux

2010-10-26 Thread Abishek Goda
hi,

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM, pandiyan R  wrote:
> hi this is pandiyan i installed fedora in my pc  now i want to know how
> to connect peer to peer connection in it...
> in my home pc i installed ubundu then my laptop i have fedora i have to
> transfer data between these to using the peer to peer cable...
> can you help me how to do thi.

btw, though I replied (my mistake too), you should have started a new
thread. I doubt the question is related to the thread!

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Re: [Ilugc] [Tip] Temporarily stop/start a process in linux

2010-10-26 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> hi this is pandiyan i installed fedora in my pc  now i want to know how
> to connect peer to peer connection in it...
> in my home pc i installed ubundu then my laptop i have fedora i have to
> transfer data between these to using the peer to peer cable...
> can you help me how to do thi.

You can just add an ethernet cable between the PC eth0 and laptops
eth0, configure them with custom ip addresses and rsync/scp the files
you need. I think that should work most of the time.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to install NS2 in Debian

2010-10-21 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Good. You need the last three packages for ns2
> ns2-doc - docs of ns2
> ns2-examples - examples of ns2
> ns2 - a discrete event simulator targeted at networking research
>
Seriously. I think I was sleeping when I wrote that. Sorry!

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Re: [Ilugc] How to install NS2 in Debian

2010-10-21 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> dns2tcp - TCP over DNS tunnel client and server
> icnsutils - utilities for manipulating Mac OS icns files
>
> I am using debian lenny

Good. You need the last three packages for ns2
ns2-doc - docs of ns2
ns2-examples - examples of ns2
ns2 - a discrete event simulator targeted at networking research

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Re: [Ilugc] hai friends I need immediate ibm product websphere linux server ( trail version)

2010-10-19 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>    Now  i am learning  web sphere  was6.1 version. IBM tools.
>           pl somebody  have  copy  of web sphere Linux server s/w  ., if u
> have  contact this is  number ., thank u

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/ws/was/

Unless you are particular about v6.1, the above link has a trial
download. Also, the mail looks to have very poor formatting. A little
more care to what/how you write might help! But that has nothing to do
with the list or the question :)

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Re: [Ilugc] How to code for an Open Source Project

2010-10-17 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>  If you were to suggest **ONE** open-source project for any new comer to
> start with - a project that makes it easy to learn, at the same time,
> generates lot of interest in a *newbie* developer to dive deeper & deeper,
> what would it be??
Sorry to hijack the question :D

That question is more or less unanswerable. It depends a lot on how
much a person is familiar with a language, how far the project has
evolved, how many different things the project is trying to do and so
on.

I ll anyway leave it for Girish/Pradeep to answer that!

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Re: [Ilugc] How to code for an Open Source Project

2010-10-17 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi

>  I've been always wanting to do this. Though my coding skills are not very
> up to the mark, I wish to contribute to some open source project by coding
> for it. Can you please guide me into which project can i start with. In the
> process I hope i do understand the source control management systems which
> are there for each n every project.

sourceforge.net and look for a link that says project help wanted.

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Re: [Ilugc] why people going for proprietary?

2010-10-15 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> Service and support, yes; but warranty is not given by anyone. Read the EULA
> carefully. So no accountability!

No accountability or warranty is needed. The word is support and
service-level-agreements. Your critical project could not go live on
the given date due to a internal network/software issue, say. Its
impossible for a company to defend themselves from the client saying
they are on their own and will handle it within a few hours. Otoh,
they just might be able to bail out saying this installation cupped
and people from  IBM/MS/HP or whoever else is working on it. The
client might buy it. RHEL/Novell(are they still around)/Canonical
might be able to address this. Corporates would prefer to stay away
from having to worry about infrastructure. Unless LUGs and Linux
vendors can handle this with the same SLAs the other end of the
spectrum is offering (albeit at similar price), they cannot break this
barrier.

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Re: [Ilugc] why people going for proprietary?

2010-10-15 Thread Abishek Goda
> Ha.. No need for such a "no more" situation.. If Microsoft finds a way to
> ban all pirated copies of Windows, thats enough. Except a few corporate
> offices and Windows fans, none will be ready to purchase the original
> version! Does MS have the guts to do that??

I think many europeans and americans buy their copy of windows.
So I want to assume you are talking india (or perhaps south east asia?)

Is that the only reason people use windows? MS did a great job of
convincing people (and very early on) that windows has the most
friendly interface. Most people get started with windows and are not
sure if they need to learn another system. "Office has it, so I ll use
it here also" kind of an attitude.

Unless you catch the kids very early on (around the time they get used
to programming, even a wee bit) and introduce them and train them
linux, they'd never have enough reasons to make the switch.

That said, if MS decides to crack down, I won't be surprised if people
start picking vendor PCs (like dell/lenovo/hp) that come with windows
bundled as part of the desktop/laptop!

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Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
> he is doing it for a living
i definitely need to meet him :)

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Re: [Ilugc] how people are gaining money using opensource softwares

2010-10-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
> he got the contract - I have no idea what fraction this was of the total
> cost of setting up the network, but it would have been only a small
> fraction. (btw, there is a company that charges 2.5 lakhs to set up a 60
> seat FOSS lab - and Basker does it free. So who makes more money?)

Sorry if this hijacks the discussion, i've not been totally following
the thread. But I quickly wanted to add one point replying this
message. I am not sure if Basker is doing this for a living. Companies
do whatever they do for a living. If Basker does so for a living, I
really want to get some first-hand experience working with him (its a
delicate balance and if he does it I'd love to learn it from him,
otherwise unintended pun in that sentence be excused!). I am a little
surprised the company that quoted 7.5 for support actually won the
contract when MS prod+suport was only 3L more. But then that is what
it is. Linux and GNU could be passion but I am not sure how many times
passions also serve food.

Ok, it probably does not reply the message. Just my thought.

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Re: [Ilugc] Is our ILUGC mailing list for some entertainment?

2010-10-07 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


> http://twitter.com/kmanikandan/statuses/26055560696
>
> Why its happening ?
Well, we really  cannot control any of that i guess. Besides, unless
its a trending topic that makes fun of the LUG, i guess we shouldn't
be giving it any more than its worth.

> Add your thoughts, comments and ideas to change others' thoughts which is
> posted in twitter.
Post more relevant stuff with that tag? And try not to oppose each
other's views way too often. But then unless you do that, good ideas
aren't going to come out anyway!

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Re: [Ilugc] Cake php error during deployment and updating my svn

2010-10-04 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> I face the following problem during Cake php error during deployment
> and updating my svn, pleae give your valuable comments on this issue:
>
>
> *Warning* (2) : Cannot modify header information
> - headers already sent by (output started at
> /home/likewise-open/CORDIANTMAA/usha.murali/public_html/usha/trunk/code/AHR/user/cake/libs/debugger.php:673)
> [*CORE/cake/libs/controller/controller.php*, line *746*]
> Code  | Context 
>
> $status =       "Location:
> http://192.168.1.138/usha/trunk/code/AHR/user/benchmarks/heat_view";
>
> header - [internal], line ??
> Controller::header() - CORE/cake/libs/controller/controller.php, line 746
> Controller::redirect() - CORE/cake/libs/controller/controller.php, line 725
> AppController::auth_user() - APP/app_controller.php, line 100
> UsersController::login() - APP/controllers/users_controller.php, line 79
> Dispatcher::_invoke() - CORE/cake/dispatcher.php, line 204
> Dispatcher::dispatch() - CORE/cake/dispatcher.php, line 171
> [main] - APP/webroot/index.php, line 83

I have not used cake php, but is the warning above the error? is this
all available for crash dump? For the warning, google has a fix

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Re: [Ilugc] How to use tally in linux

2010-09-26 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> If you have tested please notify!
No. But, 
http://raviratlami1.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-install-tally-9-in-linux.html
seems to say it is possible.

Another dated release http://www.bbspl.com/linux_tally.htm says there
may be a linux version. May be you should talk to the vendor?

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Re: [Ilugc] delay in messages

2010-08-29 Thread Abishek Goda
Kenneth,

> I notice a delay of about 24 hours in messages reaching - is it only me?
> or is that emergency moderation still on? This is posted at 11.26 am on
> the 30th.

today is 30th, isn't it?


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Re: [Ilugc] how to .msi files in linux?

2010-08-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> hi...i am fed up in searching google tat gives me solution to open .msi file
> in my ubuntu.pls give me some solutions.i tried all the options
> given in ubuntu forums notthing working well ...pls help...

If I get it right, msi files are installer files. I doubt there will
be anything to do opening them! on the other hand, they might work
with wine kind of emulator. I haven't used them in linux myself,
though.

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Re: [Ilugc] want to know about LAMP

2010-08-10 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> I work in drupal framework, I dint study in any institution about drupal /
> LAMP. Just read about it in www.drupal.org , T

If that was for me, i honestly don't get it. If it was for the
original question, then you might want to quote correctly.

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Re: [Ilugc] want to know about LAMP

2010-08-10 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> i want to know about lamp , is it necessary to study in institutions , how
> can we selfstudy send me some details regarding this

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=lamp

did you try that?
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Bsnl Dataone connection is slow now a days

2010-07-27 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>
> I have BSNL data one net connection, The speed off-late is getting worse,
> often skype gets disconnection.
> I checked with another friend of mine, he also feels the same.
> Do any one (from chennai) experience similar experience.

Is dataone the broadband connection?

I face a similar issue. But mine is more of a dns resolution issue.
Once it gets it, it seems fine.  But sometimes it just about never
gets it right :(

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Re: [Ilugc] [Telugu] ウィキペディアによう こそ!

2010-07-19 Thread Abishek Goda
Thanks Praveen,

> This means Victor did not like the solution of using tags as proposed
> and thinks he can sabotage this list with SPAM. He is sending random
> mails with random language tags, because, I think, he didn't like the
> idea that some people will post here in Tamil.
I perfectly understood the idea behind the spam :)

My question was slightly different though. For instance, I looked only
at this email since it said telugu. So, would it not irritate people
to tag a mail as tamil and write some other language in there? Many
would just have a filter to bypass the email to trash. But the few
interested would not like it, right?

Oh no, lets not pick on this. It is largely pointless.

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Re: [Ilugc] [Telugu] ウィキペディアによう こそ!

2010-07-19 Thread Abishek Goda
2010/7/19 Victor Johnson :
> イラク共和国は中東・西アジアの国である。首都はバグダード(バグダッド)。サウジアラビア、クウェート、シリア、トルコ、イラン、ヨルダンと隣接する。通称はイラク。古代メソポタミア文明を受け継ぐ土地にあり、世界で3番目の原油埋蔵国である。正式名称はアラビア語で、الجمهورية
> العراقية (アル=ジュムフーリーヤ・アル=イラーキーヤ)。通称は、العراق (アル=イラーク)。
>
> 現イラクの国土は、歴史上のメソポタミア文明が栄えた地とほとんど同一である。メソポタミア平野はティグリス川とユーフラテス川により形成された沖積平野で、両河の雪解け水による増水を利用することができるため、……
>
Unfortunately, my FF on debian decided to show this in mandarin or
some form of chinese :)

So, does this mean, using a [language] tag may not be the best solution?

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Re: [Ilugc] SMS alert software needed

2010-07-08 Thread Abishek Goda
Sorry, typo :

> I think this was discussed earlier on in the meeting. Check the
> threads for gnoki + kanchi LUG?
s/meeting/list

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Re: [Ilugc] SMS alert software needed

2010-07-08 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>
> For my school, I want a SMS alert software [ to send msg to students ]
> With or without internet connectivity.
>
I think this was discussed earlier on in the meeting. Check the
threads for gnoki + kanchi LUG?

Or yeah, just check the gnokii sms daemon
(http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/SMSD)

Hope that helps.

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Re: [Ilugc] Income-Tax software

2010-07-06 Thread Abishek Goda
>                     I need an spread sheet based utility to file an IT
> 2010-11. please give me a link.
How exactly is this FOSS? Or at least linux related?

Besides that, I am sorry I do not know of such a tool. Perhaps you
should check the IT site for that. nic.in?

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Re: [Ilugc] Unable to extract .gz file completely

2010-07-01 Thread Abishek Goda
> I think there is a limitation on the sizes the gzip can handle.
http://www.gzip.org/#faq10 says otherwise. Is that not the gzip that
is shipped on the distro?

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Re: [Ilugc] Unable to extract .gz file completely

2010-07-01 Thread Abishek Goda
> I have  9.2GB of sql dump file in ".gz" format.
> I  extract the file with gunzip.
> It has extracted but I'm unable to see some tables.
> So I tried with verbose option, It says 92 % extracted and returned to user
> prompt.
> Is there any restriction on extracting the files in gz?
> How can I extract the ".gz " file fully ?

is it 9.2G after compression? you are piping the output of gzcat to
the sql command?

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Re: [Ilugc] Some good news.....

2010-06-23 Thread Abishek Goda
Well,

>> and let mankind be freed from this cancer.
>
> Absolutely! Microsoft dying would be the best thing ever that can
> happen to the freedom philosophy!!

Winning is defeating the enemy, not a defeat he scripted on himself. I
don't think the point is to see microsoft lose. It is microsoft now.
It will be someone else tomorrow, perhaps Apple with OSX. The worst
part is OSX is pretty much unix like that even the virus prone
advantage we have  now will soon be lost!

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Re: [Ilugc] admin for the ilugc website

2010-06-20 Thread Abishek Goda
Kenneth,

> his name and contact details are there in the footer

They are. I saw them too. But then the links seem fairly outdated. For
instance the planet link does not open. So I wasn't sure if I should
go by what I see there. Thats all. The site-run-by link does a mailto
to some other address, not the one shrinivas gave me here.

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Re: [Ilugc] admin for the ilugc website

2010-06-20 Thread Abishek Goda
> You can create a login and report the issue in the tracker.
>
Yep. done that.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: [Ilugc] admin for the ilugc website

2010-06-20 Thread Abishek Goda
> "balachandar muruganantham" ,
> is the site admin for http://ilugc.in
>
> Any queries?
Thank you. Not really, I see some issues on the site with the issue
tracker. Besides, the content also seems to need some corrections. So
was wondering who I should talk to. In case I can fix them, maybe I
could give it a try.

Thanks again. I will get in touch with balachandar.

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[Ilugc] admin for the ilugc website

2010-06-20 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

Just a curious question. who is the site admin for ilugc site?

Regards,

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Re: [Ilugc] How to bring more people to ilugc meets?

2010-06-15 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> 1) One expert speaker presenting  a talk.
> 2) One beginner talk.
> 3) One OSS project/product demo
> 4) Lightning talk(s).
> 5) Job opportunity discussions( probably this at gurunath).

Just thinking way tooo loud, but if there can be a community project
that everybody gets to hack at and that gets discussed at least for a
while in the meet, I guess there might be more people for the meet.
For instance, it might not prioritize a meet in case I am not working
anywhere close to the topics to be discussed there.

Or simpler yet, if there is a talk that shows a good hack demo on
something very fundamental. Say change something in a device driver
and explain the differences. Again, just thinking loud. I could just
be crazy to make these points ;)

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Re: [Ilugc] Breaking blocked access in my office

2010-06-09 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Blocking what via ports? Run a security scanner like netcat or nmap or
> nessus or nikto or hping.

and how should you install it? if I know it right, then most
corporates give you windows machines with the least privileges. In
fact, the few things that work best in these installations are MS
Office, MS Outlook and your coding environment. But then, thats all is
needed. I am not sure about these tools (i've used them on a linux box
at home where I am the admin) on windows, but wouldn't they need
administrator rights to actually do port scanning? Just curious.

> Run your ssh server on the public IP at port 80. And use it to forward
> all your traffic.
Again, you are behind a firewall with NAT. I don't have enough fundas,
but can you actually get the reverse-lookup right for the public
server to get back correctly? I don't know, so I am trying to
understand.

One last query, would not an existing IDS installation detect port
scanning happening on a certain machine? Would that not put our man in
question? He seems to be using his Official ID to mail the list. This
leaves me with the feeling that he is not entirely aware of what he is
doing. He could meaning only to check his gmail, but then if an IDS
detects his login, they are not going to believe him. are they? By IDS
I am referring to Instrusion Detection Systems. Btw, I am not sure if
they are common in Indian IT space.

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Re: [Ilugc] Breaking blocked access in my office

2010-06-09 Thread Abishek Goda
> This is a non-technical dispute and working around it is likely a
> contract violation and you can terminated for doing so.   Regardless of
> the feasibility of such solutions, I would have to ask you and everyone
> to refrain from this path.  Posting about this in a public mailing list
> with archives is a bad idea as well.
+1

Just what I did not add, but should have.

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Re: [Ilugc] Breaking blocked access in my office

2010-06-09 Thread Abishek Goda
> I am trying to overcome the blocked access in my office somehow as I think 
> the security restrictions have gone too far to carry on my daily activities. 
> Here is the scenario. I cannot access any email sites, IM sites, 
> entertainment sites from my office. The setup as far as I understood is that 
> all traffic from the local systems are being tunneled through a proxy server. 
> I tried using various methods to access websites & IM sites like anonymous 
> proxy servers & few other ways. But what I found was that no matter what, I 
> don't seem to be able to access any of the mail/IM sites. Just then I tried 
> Firefox add-on sameplace [xmpp] which was little complicated to set up as it 
> had few dependencies & the only thing that works for me now in gtalk. All the 
> other Firefox addons like gtalksidebar, meebo, etc failed. Certainly, they 
> aren’t blocking talk.google.com since any addon trying to connect to gtalk 
> connects to talk.google.com.

Seriously, if it blocked the sys admins should have a reason to. The
reason is certainly not for us to work around it. If you think they
are insane in setting some restrictions, take it up with them. Looking
for ways to tunnel only makes your position more complicated.

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Re: [Ilugc] [http://www.google.co.in] redirected to [http://www.motive.bsnl.co.in/]

2010-05-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


> Its really frustrating when my browser is redirected to this crap webpage.
>>
>> http://www.motive.bsnl.co.in/
>>
>> My question is, how come this is possible?. Where(or at what level) the
>> redirection takes place? I don't think its happening with DNS. Also I don't
>> thing only google ips are redirected. I saw this redirection not only with
>> google sites, but with other sites also. And finally, what is the real
>> motive for bsnl to ask the customers to install this self care software?
>>
>> happens across all browsers? sure it isnt some plugin/addon/toolbar doing
> this for you?
>
> you might also want to check if your modem settings are sane and correct.
or just do a factory reset and set it up again.

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Re: [Ilugc] [http://www.google.co.in] redirected to [http://www.motive.bsnl.co.in/]

2010-05-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Its really frustrating when my browser is redirected to this crap webpage.
>
> http://www.motive.bsnl.co.in/
>
> My question is, how come this is possible?. Where(or at what level) the
> redirection takes place? I don't think its happening with DNS. Also I don't
> thing only google ips are redirected. I saw this redirection not only with
> google sites, but with other sites also. And finally, what is the real
> motive for bsnl to ask the customers to install this self care software?
>
> happens across all browsers? sure it isnt some plugin/addon/toolbar doing
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Re: [Ilugc] how to start multiple instances of xserver using xinit command

2010-05-07 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,


> I think it is possible to start another xserver instances in anther Display
> for example at 1.
>
I use startx -- :1 to start a display 1.

PS: sorry about the earlier blank email. even after 6 months of using the
laptop, i still touch the synaptic pad when typing and mess up things :(

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Re: [Ilugc] how to start multiple instances of xserver using xinit command

2010-05-07 Thread Abishek Goda
Regards,

Abishek Goda
http://abishek.zxq.net


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Raja Chinnathambi
wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> I am using Centos 5.4 i386.
>
> From run level 3 if i am able to start the first instances of xserver using
> the command
>
> $xinit
>
> it starts the with the Display at 0.0.
>
> I think it is possible to start another xserver instances in anther Display
> for example at 1.
>
> I don't know how to do.
>
> If it is possible, kindly help me.
>
> My hearty advance thanks for the ILUGC friends.
>
> Yours,
> Raja.C
>
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Re: [Ilugc] web based projects

2010-05-07 Thread Abishek Goda
> sir/ madam
>
> if any web based project in linux please tell me the webaddress and the
> project name
>

Have you tried the "help wanted"  sections of sourceforge?

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Re: [Ilugc] How to Encrypt VNC

2010-04-05 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> Dear All,
> We installed VNC successfully and using it in centOS.By default VNC is
> unencrypted.How do we change it into encrypted VNC service.thanks in
> advance
>

wouldn't ssh tunneling help?

http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/12/use-vnc-encrypt-it-via-ssh/ and
http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ssvnc.html got this over google!  i dunno
the status of the second link or its license information. and
http://blog.edseek.com/~jasonb/articles/vnc_ssh.shtml could be useful. i
have not tried the links myself, though!

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Re: [Ilugc] Speech recognition on Linux

2010-03-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Sorry

>> Is there a speech recognition application available for Linux, similar
>> to Dragon Naturally Speaking? If no, does Naturally Speaking work on
>> wine?
>
> festival is a TTS engine in linux. but am not sure what clients work
> with it or how they do.
>
> Abishek Goda
>
ah, ignore me. i misunderstood the question!!!

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Re: [Ilugc] Speech recognition on Linux

2010-03-11 Thread Abishek Goda
> Is there a speech recognition application available for Linux, similar
> to Dragon Naturally Speaking? If no, does Naturally Speaking work on
> wine?

festival is a TTS engine in linux. but am not sure what clients work
with it or how they do.

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Re: [Ilugc] hi

2010-02-18 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> Hi,
>


> I'm having some trouble with the instalation of mysql. When I'm run
> mysqladmin this returns a message telling that could not find the file
> /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock. I've serched for this file in my computer and
> not
> found in anywhere. Where I can download this or if someone have it could
> send to me?
>
This mostly means your mysql server is not running. The exact method will
depend on your distro, but in general,

/etc/init.d/mysqld start

would work.

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Re: [Ilugc] Help Regarding RedHat OS

2010-02-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> I need the Redhat OS for my research purpose, Because some softwares need
> that to run without errors.
Get CentOS. From what I know they are very similar and most softwares
that need RHEL works fine on CentOS.

Of course, i am not sure about obtaining RHEL from sources outside
RedHat. I'll leave it for others to update.

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Re: [ilugc] Column Name display in terminal

2010-02-10 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Ahh...good! I don't understand the difficulty in understanding this
> question. Anyways, let me break it up in to simpler sentences as
> you've asked for. Is it possible that we make the terminal, by
> default, display the output column names [like PID MEM etc] when you
> run a command [and that could be any command].
>
> For example: ls -lh returns an output without the column names. I
> would want to see if there is a way to display the column names like
> PERMS, OWNER, GROUP, FILENAME, SIZE etc by default.

I would like to believe that bash/shell is a simple means to run
commands that do your job. There is absolutely no reason why
bash/shell has to understand the outputs or interpret them for you. I
just might do iceweasel from bash. how is it supposed to categorize
all those gtk warning messages i might be getting? Or even know they
are warnings in the first place.

I think we should understand what to expect before looking for it. On
the other hand, its a better idea to see if the individual commands
have such options. I am sure many commands do. Or take their code and
edit that portion in. Its probably not worth trying a global wrapper
script to interpret all the commands that are already there and will
be added.

What I still don't get is why would you need bash/shell to do this for you?

>

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Re: [Ilugc] How to run a script on the event of another process getting killed

2010-01-29 Thread Abishek Goda
Well,

>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> app
>> app2
>> 

Re: [Ilugc] How to run a script on the event of another process getting killed

2010-01-29 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Nice to see the response, but its ambiguous.
> Can you please elaborate your idea?
If I have to run 'app' and invoke 'app2' when 'app' exits

just create a app.sh that first calls app and have app2 after it. now,
remember not to background app. Its not the most brilliant thing to
do, but yes it probably can get you started.

Re: [Ilugc] How to run a script on the event of another process getting killed

2010-01-29 Thread Abishek Goda
>         How to run a script on the event of another process getting killed.
> Like once a GUI app is closed by clicking the x at the top right corner of
> the window(usually), i should invoke a script.
wrap it around in another script that should be invoked.

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Re: [Ilugc] linux installation method

2010-01-29 Thread Abishek Goda
> How to install linux using linux askmethod using hard drive iso image
Did you ask google. I seem to get quite a few links

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Re: [Ilugc] How to restart X whilst being inside X

2010-01-28 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> How to make my script run above X ie. no way related to X as a child
> process.
wouldn't nohup do this?

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Re: [Ilugc] How to restart X whilst being inside X

2010-01-28 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

>         How to kill X System and start X again whilst being inside X.
Assuming you are ok with losing that active session and logging in
again, you could try ctrl+alt+bksp. Or restart the login manager as
super user. /etc/init.d/gdm restart in many cases.

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Re: [Ilugc] problem detecting the nic card

2010-01-13 Thread Abishek Goda
hi,

> And too same problem in fedora 6 for another card *Silan SC92031 PCI Fast
> Ethernet* but this time it is an duplicate card i unknowingly buyed it and i
> tried with upto fedora11 there is no driver for both nic cards.

So I wasn't alone. The Silan card works with ndiswrapper and the
windows driver. legal/foss and such details I am not totally sure.

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Re: [Ilugc] recursive search

2010-01-13 Thread Abishek Goda
>
> How to find the text from a file(directory & subdirectory). (recursive search)
>
> Ex :
> Directories :
> /prog
> /prog/sub1/
> /prog/sub1/dir1/
> /prog/sub2/
>
> Each folder contains some text files.
>
> I want to search a "text" from all the files in the directory /prog and 
> subdirectories.
>
> I tried
> cat * | grep "text"  But it searches only the current directory also it not 
> lists the filename.
>
> How do I do this

man grep. you may want to check -R and -H flags once again.

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Re: [Ilugc] Google Chrome

2010-01-12 Thread Abishek Goda
>> Does not seem to be. FF can be started with a profile but only the first
> one. All subsequent windows when the first is open acquire that profile. Is
> there any way of having two open FF windows with different profiles? I
> opened two FF windows from commandline with 2 different profiles and tried
> logging into 2 different GMail accounts one in each FF window. Did not
> work... converges to one account.

I think passing a -P should work. A -profileManager
cmdline used to display the various profiles available. I am not sure
if it helps open multiple a/cs, but the two profiles used to have
different settings.

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Re: [Ilugc] problem detecting the nic card

2010-01-12 Thread Abishek Goda
> where to download the driver for Realtek RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit
> Ethernet for fedora 6
If I remember right, realtek site hosts the drivers. I remember
getting them sometime recently.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#5,7,8,10,982

isn't that the one?

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Re: [Ilugc] need help : how to find whether the particular packages installed or not via terminal command

2010-01-07 Thread Abishek Goda
> how can we find , whether one package is installed in our system or
> not via terminal.

dpkg -l | grep   ?

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Re: [Ilugc] help

2010-01-03 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
>> Why I could not install rpm package in ubuntu 9.10?
>> Can any body help me?
>
> You can use 'alien' to convert .rpm to .deb package and try with the
> installation. See http://wiki.debian.org/Alien for more details.

You may want to check that the package is not already available for
ubuntu. Use synaptic to search for the package. Or you could give
apt-cache search package to locate relevant package and do apt-get
install

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Re: [Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

2010-01-01 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> sudo mkdir /var/www/my_site/
>
> then change owership of my_site.
>
> sudo chown $USER:$USER /var/www/my_site/
>
> now store your files in /var/www/my_site/ and access them using
> http://localhost/my_site/

That or just enable the public_html access in your apache2 config
file. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html explains
it. I am not sure if ubuntu ships with mod_userdir though.

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Re: [Ilugc] http redirects to https

2009-12-31 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> Redirection is also not active (commented ).
> Any other suggestions?

Where? In apache config or in the application? How are you checking
this? Does some basic index.html that you place show correctly?

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Re: [Ilugc] http redirects to https

2009-12-31 Thread Abishek Goda
> In Linux box, http redirects to https and displays nothing.
>
> apache server runs at 10.x.x.x when i type http://10.x.x.x
>
> it automatically redirects to
>
> https://10.x.x.x
>
> How to avoid this  redirection?

Check your apache config. Or if it is some app that you downloaded,
see if they force https in their config. I knew a php app that could
do this.

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Re: [Ilugc] Unable to mount cdrom

2009-12-29 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> I tried booting from Ubuntu live CD. It dint work.

Where does it stop? Does it even read your CD?

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Re: [Ilugc] shell script - changing directory

2009-12-29 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,
> I was writing a few lines of script to change the  *pwd* of my BASH to my
> *project workspace* whenever i call it (because its a long path)
>
> #!/bin/bash
> DIRECTORY="/home/varrun/Desktop/TODO/Final_yr_project"
> if [ -d "$DIRECTORY" ]; then
>        echo "exists"
>        cd  $DIRECTORY
> else
>        echo "project directory either wrong or doesnt exist"
> fi
>
> When i run it, the directory of my terminal does *not* change i guess
> because a child process cannot pass arguments to a parent process.
> Is there any other way i can do this?

Well, I think it should not change the directory of the calling
terminal, but within the script the directory will change. Try echoing
$PWD after the cd command.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to setup a cloud (Cloud Computing)

2009-12-28 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> So as per your 'feeling'
>
> 1.) If a member is working in centos, he can pass judgments on OP's
> certification as per 'this groups' rules
> 2.) If he is a long time member of ILUGC he can get away with it
>
> Frankly, this reeks of bias, I am a member of this group for a long time as
> well, so does that give me the right to judge what other plp, off course I
> don't work in centos just use it sometime.

C'mon. I doubt Kenneth meant that. Can we try to get things in the
right perspective?

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Re: [Ilugc] [X-POST]: Reading an image file

2009-12-28 Thread Abishek Goda
> There is no binary mode in Unix, or rather the default is binary mode.
>  It would be easier to know what you're talking about if you post your
> code.
+1.
or perhaps it is the open/read functions that you need as opposed to
fopen and fread. again, just thinking aloud.

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Re: [Ilugc] [X-POST]: Reading an image file

2009-12-28 Thread Abishek Goda
> Though I also do see 'b' mode in the manual page of 'man fread', but
> I'm doubtful about the results.
any specific reasons? Could there be a difference in the size of the
data types? Can you mask for the bits and see if that makes sense?
Just guessing too loud :-)

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Re: [Ilugc] How to Check the LOG FILES in LINUX?

2009-12-28 Thread Abishek Goda
> Please help me with your answers.
>
> *Q.) How to check the LOG FILES IN LINUX?*
Depends on what you want to check - whether  the log file exists, or
whether certain messages have occured etc. But I guess the most common
answer would be the tail command.

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Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member

2009-12-24 Thread Abishek Goda
> I know a police station near Chromepet
> which refused to accept a burglary complaint saying: 'why did you keep your
> jewels in your house - you are at fault!'

Oops, there is a lesson or two there for us chromepet residents :-).

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Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member

2009-12-24 Thread Abishek Goda
> Why you are advertising Windows 7 here ??

Was there a choice? I think the mail is coming from a hotmail id!

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Re: [Ilugc] sankar.k wants to chat

2009-12-13 Thread Abishek Goda
Ha,

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, sankar.k  wrote:
> ---
>
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> products.
>
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> You'll need to click this link to be able to chat with sankar.k.
>
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> storage - and chat with sankar.k, visit:
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>
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> - Instant messaging right inside Gmail
> - Powerful spam protection
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>
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>
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Re: [Ilugc] Code Size Reduction Techniques

2009-12-03 Thread Abishek Goda
> I used strip too.I was able to reduce size of code.
>
> But are there any other methods for code size reduction?
I think the only other option is to recode the bulkier portions in asm
directly. i am not sure we can beat the compiler at its job, but
sometimes you know the system and can make sensible assumptions
unknown to the compiler.

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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ilugc Digest, Vol 66, Issue 81

2009-11-24 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> hi Selvakumar,
>
> Which flavour of linux are you using?
> Try Audacious if you're in any new platforms, still you may have to
> circumvent the mp3 codec license issue...!
> Its the old XMMS in new bottle..
> BTW, if you're serious about Os try converting you existing collection to
> OGG vorbis and distribute only OGG..as its royality free...
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ramkumar

Honestly, we should at least trim the unnecessary parts before pushing the send.

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Re: [Ilugc] Help Needed

2009-11-20 Thread Abishek Goda
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Ramkumar  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>                        suddenly our server has stopped response for mysql.
> when i try to start mysqld service , it shows "mysqld dead but subsys
> locked"... give responce thanks in advance

I don't remember very well, but mysql should have its own log file.
Try to see if there are any error codes in that file. look that up in
the mysql site. guess that would help faster.

I remember seeing this problem when i was using mysql. all i did was
paste the error as it is in the search bar. apparently, google still
has some links on this. sure you tried most of them?

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Re: [Ilugc] How to measure the humidity in groundnut using linux?

2009-11-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> That is not a solution. I just imagined how the process would be.
>
Good. see, thats how bad i am in biology ;-)

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Re: [Ilugc] How to measure the humidity in groundnut using linux?

2009-11-11 Thread Abishek Goda
Hi,

> The complexity is in building a system that measures the humidity: collect
> statistically valid samples,  weigh them , then grind , then heat them till
> all liquid substances are evaporated, then weight them again, find the
> difference in weight, make allowances for the volatile veg oil that also
> evaporated you then have the qty of water that was there in the sample.
> And build a system that will automate the above listed steps!!

Wow. I quit biology after 10th std. but if the solution is this
complex, then we might not be on the right track:-)

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